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stash 02-04-2004 01:25 PM

Child born with partially formed head.
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...xwa10102041432

Quote:

Maria Gisela Hiciano, holds her daughter Rebeca in her arms as her father Franklin Martinez, caresses her at the CARE clinic in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, Tuesday, Jan. 27, 2004. Rebeca, a Dominican infant born with a second partially formed head is scheduled to undergo a risky operation that will take an estimated 13 hours for a team of international doctors and nurses on Friday. (AP Photo/Walter Astrada)
Thats just crazy

cylune 02-04-2004 02:57 PM

Whoa.... it's like coneheads, except in real life...

Confederate 02-04-2004 03:01 PM

I wonder if this can be blamed on bad health conditions, drug use, or bad genetics?

*Nikki* 02-04-2004 03:21 PM

That is just gross. That poor child.

moonstrucksoul 02-04-2004 03:24 PM

damn, that's sad. it looks as if there was a twin growth there, looking at the top it looks like an ear and some deformed facial parts. maybe a siamese twin. i would bet that xrays will show that she has 2 brains. far out!

*wrote that before i read the story*
Quote:

Rebeca shares blood vessels and arteries with her second head. Although only partially developed, the mouth on her second head moves when Rebeca is being breast-fed. Tests indicate some activity in her second brain
way far out!

jasonresno 02-04-2004 03:28 PM

Just...blah....ew made me shiver.

Averett 02-04-2004 03:32 PM

That's so sad :(

SecretMethod70 02-04-2004 04:28 PM

Wow that's really....strange and sad. I wonder what the odds are of something like this happening.

As a side note, let's please continue to try to not just post links and instead quote the articles in the thread as well. Thanks. I've taken care of this one for you ;)

Spartak 02-04-2004 05:15 PM

That's totally messed up :/ ... hope the baby survives the operation and has a chance at a decent life.

taylorspl 02-04-2004 05:43 PM

This reminds me of the Conjoined Fetus Lady episode on Southpark.

moonstrucksoul 02-04-2004 05:52 PM

do you think that if they left her alone and she grew up, that she could harness the power of that second brain?

aarchaon 02-04-2004 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by moonstrucksoul
do you think that if they left her alone and she grew up, that she could harness the power of that second brain?
I doubt it. As far as I know, the second head is just a conjoined twin that has been absorbed by the babies own body during gestation.

NetterButter 02-04-2004 06:13 PM

wow....

i feel so sad for that baby and so creeped out at the same time by the big vein and eyes. but if i was her mom, i would love her with everything i have!!

stash 02-04-2004 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SecretMethod70
As a side note, let's please continue to try to not just post links and instead quote the articles in the thread as well. Thanks. I've taken care of this one for you ;)
Sorry about that, from now on ill put a quote.

MadMartigan 02-04-2004 06:59 PM

could have gone without seeing that. ewe. Feel bad for the parents of that poor child.

Bivens 02-04-2004 08:09 PM

She's just trying to get ahead in life!

orphen 02-04-2004 08:17 PM

That is disgusting... maybe that'll make her twice as smart..?

Esoteric 02-04-2004 08:45 PM

That's sad, hopefully the doctors will be able to do the surgery successfully without much damage.

hu-man 02-05-2004 12:40 AM

Poor Edward
(Tom Waits/Kathleen Brennan 1992)

Did you hear the news about Edward?
On the back of his head he had another face
Was it a woman's face or a young girl?
They said to remove it would kill him
So poor Edward was doomed

The face could laugh and cry
It was his devil twin
And at night she spoke to him
Things heard only in hell
But they were impossible to separate
Chained together for life

Finally the bell tolled his doom
He took a suite of rooms
And hung himself and her from the balcony irons
Some still believe he was freed from her
But I knew her too well
I say she drove him to suicide
And took poor Edward to hell

SiN 02-05-2004 07:11 AM

that is really sad :(

and it brings up a couple questions in my mind...

1. would say, ultrasound find such a 'defect', and if so, perhaps in an ideal world, such procedures should be more avail to al?

2. if ultrasound would have revealed it, then what? complete the pregnancy or not?

Astrocloud 02-05-2004 07:39 AM

[edit]No pictures of children allowed[/edit]

InTeGrA77 02-05-2004 08:14 AM

Wow, thats pretty bad. I hope that the operation goes well.

Astrocloud 02-05-2004 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Astrocloud
[edit]No pictures of children allowed[/edit]
I should know better.

Here's a link to a bigger story with pictures of the poor kid.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...E23289,00.html

PredeconInferno 02-05-2004 09:59 PM

That is really gross.

omega2K4 02-05-2004 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by taylorspl
This reminds me of the Conjoined Fetus Lady episode on Southpark.
Ahahaha, I was thinking the same thing.

sadatx 02-05-2004 10:44 PM

Imagine what the mother felt like giving birth to her child. They probably took it away immediately. The doctor's must have been in shock, I'm sure they don't see that every day.

Still, as terrible as it is, things like this are bound to happen (and if you do some research abnormalities like this have been around for as long as science could record them).

Of course, you always hope it doesn't happen to your family (well, you probably don't even think about it since it's so rare).

BoCo 02-05-2004 11:21 PM

At least they all still love the baby (see the pics).

Chingal0 02-06-2004 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moonstrucksoul
do you think that if they left her alone and she grew up, that she could harness the power of that second brain?
I was thinking the same thing, except in a sealab 2021 or bad batman cartoon type of context. Sorry.

wannabenakid247 02-06-2004 06:35 AM

That is weird as fuck. I hope she is ok. Must be a dodgy as fuck operation do have done. Surely the ultrasound would have picked that up. May have been at a late stage though.

Milopost 02-06-2004 06:42 AM

Whoa, i can see myself having freaky dreams tonight... i mean this morning, even.

Hmm...
Talking baby: "Mouhaha i have extreme brain powa"
*harnesses the ultimate powers of the force*

Maybe something along those lines. You can fight the sleep but not the dream.

Munku 02-07-2004 12:12 AM

"Doctors remove babies second head"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/07...ery/index.html

Seven-week-old Rebeca Martinez had been born with the head of what would have been her twin, attached to her own skull.

Surgeons removed the so-called "parasitic head," which had a partially formed brain and facial features, in a 12-hour procedure.

"It went great," said Dr. Benjamin Rivera, one of several neurosurgeons involved in the complex operation conducted at Santo Domingo's Center for Orthopedic Specialties.

But he conceded it was "was quite difficult," and said the next 24 to 48 hours will be critical because the child lost a lot of blood.

The operation began at midday Friday and ended near midnight local time.

A U.S.-based charity that funds the orthopedic center and gives medical care to disabled children in developing countries, CURE International, is paying an estimated $100,000 for the operation.

Doctors had expected significant blood loss during the procedure.

Separating the blood vessel was challenging since they were intertwined, said Dr. Santiago Hazim, medical director of the hospital.

To prepare for the operation, doctors saved nearly four gallons of Rebecca's O-positive blood -- enough to transfuse her entire blood volume five times.

In addition to separating the undeveloped head, doctors repaired a portion of Rebeca's skull.

Doctors had expected the surgery to be easier than recently publicized cases of conjoined twins.

In those cases, doctors were attempting to save two lives. In this procedure, doctors focused only on Rebeca.

The second head will likely be sent to pathologists for a full examination.

Rebeca is expected to recover in a couple of weeks and develop as a normal girl.

Wulf_Hunter 02-07-2004 10:01 AM

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...F&SECTION=HOME

Poor thing passed away :(.

jasonresno 02-07-2004 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hu-man
Poor Edward
(Tom Waits/Kathleen Brennan 1992)

Did you hear the news about Edward?
On the back of his head he had another face
Was it a woman's face or a young girl?
They said to remove it would kill him
So poor Edward was doomed

The face could laugh and cry
It was his devil twin
And at night she spoke to him
Things heard only in hell
But they were impossible to separate
Chained together for life

Finally the bell tolled his doom
He took a suite of rooms
And hung himself and her from the balcony irons
Some still believe he was freed from her
But I knew her too well
I say she drove him to suicide
And took poor Edward to hell

Wow amazing poem..

Munku 02-07-2004 10:09 AM

Infant dies after surgery to remove second head..
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4194938/

"Infant dies after surgery to remove second head"

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic - An infant girl died Saturday after surgery to remove a second head, her mother said.

A medical team completed the operation Friday evening but said 7-week-old Rebeca Martinez had been susceptible to infection or hemorrhaging. The baby died 12 hours after the surgery, believed to be the first of its kind.

The second head, which doctors said threatened the girl's development, grew from the top of her skull and had its own partly developed brain, ears, eyes and lips.

During the surgery, 18 surgeons, nurses and doctors had taken several rotations to cut off the undeveloped tissue, clip the veins and arteries, and close the skull using a bone and skin graft from the second head.

The surgery was complicated because the two heads shared arteries. Although only partially developed, the mouth on her second head moved when Rebeca was being breast-fed.

The operation was critical because the head on top was growing faster than the lower one, said Dr. Jorge Lazareff, the lead brain surgeon and director of pediatric neurosurgery at the University of California at Los Angeles' Mattel Children's Hospital.

Without an operation, he said, "the child would barely be able to lift her head at 3 months old." Lazareff said the pressure from the second head, attached on top of the first and facing up, would have prevented Rebeca's brain from developing.

Lazareff, who led a team that successfully separated conjoined Guatemalan twin girls in 2002, led the operation along with Dr. Benjamin Rivera, a neurosurgeon at the Medical Center of Santo Domingo and the orthopedic center.

Rebeca was born on Dec. 17 with the undeveloped head of her twin, a condition known as craniopagus parasiticus. Twins born conjoined at the head are extremely rare, accounting for one of every 2.5 million births.

Parasitic twins like Rebeca are even rarer. Rebeca was the eighth documented case in the world of craniopagus parasiticus, Hazim said. All the other documented infants died before birth, making it the first known surgery of its kind, according to Lazareff and the other doctors.

Martinez, a tailor, and his wife, who is a supermarket cashier, together make about $200 a month and have two other children, aged 4 and 1.

They say doctors told them Rebeca would be born with a tumor on her head but that none of the prenatal tests showed a second head.

Poyzun_Ivy 02-07-2004 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wulf_Hunter
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...F&SECTION=HOME

Poor thing passed away :(.

Yeah, I was going to post that... she didn't make it through her surgery, which is very sad. :( The poor parents are probably devastated, and I can only imagine what they're going through right now.

jasonresno 02-07-2004 10:10 AM

So the surgery didn't work? I had a feeling it wouldn't..

jasonresno 02-07-2004 10:15 AM

That is very sad...

lurkette 02-07-2004 11:04 AM

threads merged - carry on

Averett 02-07-2004 11:27 AM

How sad :(

meembo 02-07-2004 02:16 PM

:( :( :( :( :(


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