Another dumb actress.... Aren't they all?
 

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This could go into politics, but I'd rather get everyones opinion.
Now I'll do my best to keep calm......
This stupid fucking bitch needs to keep her over-paid, by hard working over-patriotic American's, mouth fucking shut! Fuck her. Like her kid would ever step foot into a public school or ever live in a place called reality. Christ she annoys the shit outa me. I could care less that she doesn't agree with the war, but how the fuck can one move out of the country and say it's not suitable for me to raise my kid there and expect us to believe she loves America. This bitch loves your money, not America.

Ahhhh.
they all just like to be different. God love em...cuz we really don't. Although i do like coldplay...well i did until they got to big.

mrb

she should raise the child in the US and teach him/her to change the current atmostphere :D.

she's also losin child credit from her income taxes :D.

Johnny Depp and John Malkovich have done the same thing. If they don't like it here, let em leave. They're not the problem, it's ppl who blindly follow their sentiments because they are celebs.

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Sixate:

A question: If one of the things that America stands for is freedom - particularily freedom of speech - and you are a patriot who loves your country (which I do not doubt), how do you square this with telling a critic to shut up?

I'll grant that Paltrow is dumb. I'll grant that she might even be flat-out wrong. Why does that result in a call to silence?

Keep in mind that John Stuart Mill says in On Liberty that even offensive speech can serve freedom by exposing its own fallacies.

Well, Thank God you kept calm on this.

I would have hated to see you lose your cool :D


As I stated on another board, I read this and my Give-a-Shit-O-Meter didn't even move.

No. Really.

It didn't.

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Because a critic doesn't leave. She says she loves her country, but where does she live? Where is her kid gonna be raised? Not in the place in which she "says" she loves. If she loved America so much she would be here and raise her kid here. All she loves is the high and mighty dollar that she gets from the people who live here. She loves her bank account and the fantasy in which she lives.

whats so upsetting? so she wants to live somewhere else? shes entitled to that, you're entitled to live there. no reason to get upset.

if you dont care for a child you get blasted, if you do, you get blasted?

alot more things to worry about than where an actress wants to live. If she's so dumb, why worry?

Live and let live.

yeah, I agree with Sixate here. If she truely loved this country.. then she would live here, and so would her child. I've grown up in this country and its cool.. as long as she doesn't live next to Sixate... I think she'd be ok. :D

Although, this doesn't make her Bitch... It just means she needs to choose her wording a little bit better.

Let her go. Thats one less person in a SUV on the freeway here in LA.
A person has the right to say what they want, Live where they want, and do what ever job they can get. That is what all the wars for our Democracy have been about.
You have the right to dis-approve of the programs put forth by the administration, just don't try to shoot the top guy.

I agree with sixate. She's another America-hating, over-paid "actress" who raped Americans of their money through movie tickets and now has so much hate for us and our way of life that she's decided to bail.

Also, anyone who disses Americans for loving our country (being Patriotic) needs to be given a 1-way ticket out and not allowed back in. Love it or get the fuck out.

whoa... *wince*... i stopped really hearing what you were saying after this Sixate...

I feel that she needs to leave. She's taking the overblown stories that she sees on the news about guns and war and (not being a member of the REAL world because she's a celebrity and all...) thinks it's happening everywhere! Now she's hating on America, the country she says she loves, by moving to another country, and I say good riddance.

and candide, if she doesn't live in america, she doesnt get the same rights that we do. Hopefully she moves to rijad or something where she won't even be able to talk....

who gives a fuck? why does this bullshit even make the news


ah well... anything for content.

Sixate - my question is not about her locality. It is about freedom of expression and how that squares with American freedoms. I really am curious as to how you answer the question.

Regards,
Candide.

Whoa, give her a break, she just wants to raise her child in the best place possible. It's funny to see how some Americans get so pissed off when they see people who think that the US might not be the best country of the world..

She loves America, but loves another country better. boohoo, get over it.

ok... this whole thread here just proves the whole over patriotic shit... look how upset you guys are getting because of her choice where to raise her child... i agree with the things in that little snippet



/me is now hated by all american tfp members

Let her pay her taxes for US earned income. Thats all I ask. No tax shelters or evasions. She can live where she wants, I do.

It's not her fault that many Americans go and pay to watch her works of shit. :) Albeit movie tickets are way overpriced in some areas.

I think we're getting upset because she's being snotty.

"Guns in schools" and whatnot... like sixate said, there's no fuckin way her kid would EVER see a public school, let alone ANY type of dangerous situation in any way. She's being stuck-up, no two ways about it.

Jam161 for president.


How is it your right to state where any man or woman can or cannot raise their own children, regardless of their status in society?

Sixate and the rest of you, with people like you around, I may not want to raise my kids here either. She's right. You being so infuriated by such a simple, small and most importantly inconsequential detail to your life scares me. And I'm sure it's scared many people, including Gwyneth.

I agree with her, whenever and IF I have kids, I'm definitely going to raise my children outside of the U.S. somewhere.

That's so true. Not the "over-patriotic" statement, but how she said the majority of the people in the U.S. talk like "We're number one and the rest of the world doesn't matter.".

Agreed, if she wants to raise her child in another country, go ahead, you've got the money, have fun! If I ever have children I'd ideally want to raise them in Japan a couple of hundred years ago.

hahah i dont think thats possible :P

Paltrow said something rather unintelligent. Whomever decided this was newsworthy is less intelligent than Paltrow. Same for anyone willing to get into a political uproar over it.

Smart actress: Natalie Portman

Let her and others like her think they have been violated some how and they'll start screaming "but I'm an American citizen, you can't do that to me".

I just think she's pretty hott. I can understand her wanting to raise her child somewhere different, but i doubt she will find that London is anymore pleasant than any other major city.

And Yeah, Natalie is the best!!!

If you beleive that the social climate in your home country (doesnt have to be US, could be anywhere, afganistan, even) has changed for the worse - whether opinions have become more dangerous, or possibly society is more arrogant - and you have a choice to live somewhere else, why should you be the subject of scorn and ridicule, regardless of your social or financial status.

Exactly. Why is she making this sort of thing public? Does she honestly think her "adoring fans" need to know where she chooses to raise her children? She's using her celebrity status to whine about random bullshit she's obviously biased about.

Let her dumbass leave.

The problem isn't what celebrities say, the problem is that you care what they say. If you didn't care, they would shut up.

It's funny how some people can't accept the fact that some of their fellow citizens don't think that the US is the best place to raise children. Some love your society, some don't.
Wanting the best for your children is not being stuck-up.

freedom.......

of......

speech........


she's just expressing her rights.


free.....

country..........

so.....she's free to do what she wants .........


(i second the "who gives a fuck as well")

Unsafe country??? Pfft maybe if she lived in a ghetto..... she just needs to stfu.

I'm of the "Who gives a fuck?" camp although I can hardly blame her. Since Sept 11, 2001 the USA has become a violently patriotic country. The government is stripping the rights of the people and the people are letting them. The people are unfriendly & suspicious of strangers and foriegners. Citizens born in the USA who have different beliefs (ie. muslim) are treated like third class citizens. The USA is quickly becoming the most hated nation on earth to the pointof being compared to Hitler's Germany. If I lived in the USA and had the option to live in another country until my homeland regained it's senses I would take the oportunity and leave.

Freedom of speech is a two-way street. You have the right to say stupid shit and I also have the right to tell you to shut the fuck up and get the hell out of here.

She needs to move to a more "enlightened" socialist country where everybody is happy and disarmed. She'll have nothing to worry about because she can afford to live in the best places with the best bodyguards.

Fuck 'er.

Gee. lemme guess. You're Canadian, right?

Violently patriotic is just a dumb comment. I live in America, and I have never heard any stories of some over-patriotic individuals beating and killing anyone who are against the government. Another thing, there's no such thing as being over-patriotic. http://www.boomspeed.com/sixate/icon_rolleyes.gif
Since you don't live here you have no clue how people are treated. You just go by whatever the hell you want to believe.

Comparing the US to Hitler's Germany is even more retarded. If that were the case we'd be gassing all the America hating Canadians and Muslim's right now, but that'll never ever happen. It's not an option or even a thought process. Plus if Canada was ever attacked by anyone, we'd be the first one to do something. Not Canada.

Lastly, I haven't lost any freedom over the past few years, so I have no clue what you're even talking about.

"If that were the case we'd be gassing all the America hating Canadians and Muslim's right now, but that'll never happen"

More like, If that were the case we'd be using unprecedented attack strategies to wage war on supposedly terrorizing countries, where the vast majority of citizens are Muslim. But that has already happened. Not to mention imperializing our foreign policy agenda. Take over Afghanistan and create a controlled government. Check. Take over Iraq and create a controlled government, using the vice president's former company to uncontestedly rebuild the damage we caused ( http://truthout.org/docs_04/011804E.shtml ). Almost a check.

And yeah, sixate, you actually have lost a LOT of freedom - if you would simply open your eyes. Especially on the internet, due to the USA PATRIOT Act, many of my (and yours, too) freedoms have been severely limited. http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/0194.ACLU.e-Privacy.htm , http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/Safe...ID=12126&c=207

Stop being so naive, it pains me.

AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! :eek:

tehblaed actually used links to Truthout.org and the ACLU to help state his point. That's like using a neo-Nazi to explain all the bad things Jews have done over the last hundred years.

I'm gonna go puke now.

Maybe we could calm down and get back on topic.

Actually sixate I'm not Canadian.

And no you are not gassing canadians & muslims but you are deporting Canadian citzens to third countries that are known to torture thier prisoners. Your own citizens of muslim faith ARE being treated as second class citizens, I have seen it first hand.

You personally may not have noticed any changes in your freedoms because you are a nice white boy who does not attempt to use the full extent of your former freedom.

I'm ok with her choice. I don't quite like the environment I live in, if I had a choice I'd go elsewhere. Seems reasonable to me.

Lets see. Who would rather have as your neighbor?

Gwyneth Paltrow or this guy sixate who goes ballistic when he reads her opinon.

haha, this kinda sums up some of my feelings on this issue.

(however, be careful who you're calling "this guy".... note the "Super Moderator" under his name ;) )

I disagree, you're being violently/overly patriotic right here in this thread. Paltrow has calmly expressed her dislike for this country, and has decided to leave. You respond by exploding, biting her head off and calling her a "stupid fucking bitch."

You're helping to prove one of her points.

68,
I think you pretty much proved her point for her. I'm petty sure my give-a-shit-o-meter went from no reading to "ho-hum another strident conservative" to "she must be absolutely right". If you're just venting, great! If you're actually trying to persuade, then I think we know someone who needs to work on their people skills.

It's all fine and well to say that one should stick around and try to change the country if one doesn't really have the resources to up stakes and jet, but if I did, I'd certainly think long and hard about educating my children abroad. I suspect that, in the end, I'd end up sticking around, but I'd give it some hard thought, and I'm in one of the better school districts in the country.

If I was being violent I would beat the living shit out of everyone in America who shares this idiots opinion. It may be difficult for you to believe, but I never have and never will do that. I've also never wandered into a public school with a gun and killed anyone. So I didn't help prove any of her points. I think maybe you and Tophat need to wake up. Just because you don't like how I express myself in my wonderfully free country it doesn't make me violent.

Tophat, I'm not trying to persuade anyone. What would ever give you that impression? I'm just voicing my opinion. I'm vulgar at times, no big deal. ;)

Moskie, just because someone doesn't like my opinion doesn't mean that I'd ban them just because I can. That's not what I'm here to do. I have never banned someone for disagreeing with me. So please don't think that I would take action on someone just for the hell of it.

I hate bastards who think they can speak their fucking mind, the fucking bastards. Need to learn to keep their fucking bastard mouths shut. Fucking Bastards.

good to see that a woman with an opinion you disagree with is a stupid bitch. *rolls eyes*

I don't plan on raising my future children in the United States. This country, IMHO, was built on money and the desire for it. I see no reason to subject my children to the Make Money and Die ways of this country. Yes, I will leave. No, I don't want to hear your proud, blinded rhetoric. If you've got some real arguments as to why this government is good, share them.

BTW - She isn't dissing America, she's dissing the American Government. You don't keep your freedom by following the rich like sheep. You have to be a critic. You have to stand up. You have to lose your pride.

Read the Patriot Act of 2001 and the Homeland Security Act of 2002. Oh yeah, and while you were distacted by Saddams "capture" on FOX, Patriot Act 2 was written into law.

You don't know you've lost your freedoms because you're too busy getting your "information" from TV and have no time to read.

I cant stand Paltrow anyways. I think she is a tavern wench who can't act. She is a bigger moron for saying her homeland isn't safe but yet she chooses to live here.

Fuck her and her tits sag!

No matter where I lived, if I thought my family and I could have a better life living in a different country I'd jump at the chance. I'm sure most of you would too. If you've never been out of your country let alone your state, how can you know that you live in the best country in the world? Because you were told that? I suppose ignorance is bliss.

In many people’s minds, the US isn't the be all and end all of countries. It's time to accept this fact.

I was born and bred and raised here but I have been thinking about moving out of the country for my future children's sake even though I LOVE the US.
What is it?...approx. 11,000 deaths per year by guns in the US while other countries are in the 300 or lower range....that seems a lot cooler to me. It shows that something is off kilter over here.
Basically it boils down to where you feel safe.
My parents came here from Pakistan to start a family. They (and myself) love Pakistan...but would/did they (I) raise any children there?....Hells no! So you can love a place but not want to stay there.

I'm so bored with the constant attention idiots like this get. Who gives a fuck what she thinks? They fart and EXTRA!!! is there. Geez sixate, I can't add anything to your post or even reply because I feel just the same way.

We have about 6x the population of the bigger European countries and the majority of our population is in Urban areas which would tend to equal more poverty which would equal more crime.

touche.

If she wants to leave, fine. But she doesn't just want to leave. She, like Johnny Depp and Malkovich, wants to leave America but still reap the benefits of being American. That's where I say "nuh-uh."

And these reasons she gives for moving are absolute drivel. America is a BIIIIIIG place. I'm sure she could move somewhere, SOMEWHERE in this big country and not have to worry about guns in school or over-patriotic weirdos. Wake up lady - there are many more towns than New York and LA to live in.

But no - I gotta have my Louis Vuitton bags and my D&G outfits!!!

The problem I have is that Paltrow has the ear of many Americans and could use that capability to make positive changes. Instead she just just bitches and leaves. I hope she finds what she's looking for because she won't get a very warm reception if she comes back.

I have to disagree with you there. If you are so patriotic as to blindly follow whomever is running a country it can lead to a serious downfall. Just ask the Bathists (sp?) in Iraq.

Baathist's were loyal for love of their country, they were loyal for fear of their lives.

I say run her out of the country....if she has that bad of a problem with it then why does she continue to live here.

She's saying London is better? Hah. I was going to take a picture of all the locks on my brother in laws door when I was staying with him this past week in England but I never got the chance.

I leave my door unlocked at night and noone's ever tried to break in.

AMEN! The man speaks the truth!

uhh sixate you got a problem with canadians?

anyone here ever seen that boston public episode where that new teacher (last season i think) had the debate and all the pro americans kicked the shit out of the guy who was defending canada

Some thoughts on the issue:

I wonder why anyone's taking her this seriously. Sure, she's famous....but since when has that made a person politically astute? Granted, opinions are like a**holes: everyone's got one.

There are a million (?) safe places in the USA to raise a kid. Think of all the children who grow up to be fine, upstanding adults these days. It does happen. She appears to be bothered by the anti-american sentiment more than she is bothered by her own opinions. Sticks and stones, m'dear... sticks and stones.

One might also say that she's effectively biting the hand that's fed her, lo these past few lucrative years. Maybe she'll feel the sting of bad press, but I doubt it.

She's not the one who's "raping Americans of their money"... the industry is. She just happens to be part of it, to which Americans (and many countries outside the USA) willingly give their money.

In the end, it's her decision. I hope she finds some place in which she feels her kid is safe to be raised.

By the way, I'm Canadian. Take that as you may.

A person just can't win with you people. If someone speaks out against US policy, you tell them to leave. If a person speaks out against US policy and leaves, you say "a critic doesn't leave." (sixate)

So what do you want her to do? Just agree with you?

Her and her crappy movies can stay in europe

Dude, it's a TV show. Its designed to be controversial to get your attention, that doesn't mean it reflects reality. Frankly that is the biggest problem with most other countries, and I've worked in Europe from 1999 to 2001, they get ALL their information from American TV; sitcoms, talk shows, etc. They know very little about real day to day life in the US and their steriotypes are frankly jaw dropingly bizzare. Americans as well don't get a great deal of insight into the day to day lives in other countries.

Yah, if Paltrow wants to leave then she should leave. However, she feels she needs to remain in the PR spotlight so she uses this as an opportunity to get attention, keep her name in the press. We all have the right to free speech (here in the US), but when you are in the public eye you have a certain ethical responsibility. Maybe she really truly believes what she said (and I am so *sure* she's read the Patriot Act and can tell you how it directly affects her freedoms), my gut tells me that she just wants to keep her name in the papers.

Well obviously she's dumb, if she's got her own opinion....

What's this, you're either dumb or Canadian if you don't like the way this country is???

Gee, not much of a choice.

This is ridiculous. I think it is a good idea for anyone to question any argument that needs righteous indignation to hold itself up, which is basically all you're argument against paltrow amounts to. Aside from the vitriol, does anyone have any kind of meaningful critique of paltrow or is it all, "oooh that dumb bitch", and "rwwaarrr, love it or leave it", or even "grrrrrr she can't act, but i'd bang her".

I don't know what's worse, the people who base their political decisions on bruce willis or johnny depp, or the people who have no better way to react when someone dares to say anything critical of the status quo other than to scream in righteous indignation.

All this uproar over the ramblings of an airhead actresses (term used loosely). All these reactions of a jingoistic hooligan who claims to be 6' 8" and thinks that his claim gives him the right to bully on the internet and spout crap about how America's military should be in harm's way worldwide, yet was unwilling to enlist and do his four years.

You people really need to get out more, all of you.

I sort of agree with her motives, a bit. From over here in NZ, I don't agree with everyone having the right to a handgun. It seems that it only breeds violence, we're always hearing stupid stories involving guns. For example the story (I think it may have been on the news) of a guy that had his parking space "stolen" by another driver in a car park, so he got out and shot her. How often do these incidents really happen?

As for patriotism, it seems like Americans do have a LOT of it, and seem to think they are the best in the world. That's the impression I get. I'm not saying they're not nice or anything, they just seem to think America is the best.

I hope I don't get flamed for this, I'm trying to be objective and explain my view and how I get it.

i know that.. my question about wether or not he had a problem with canadians was due to a comment of his.. also that episode goes along the lines of this thread with all the uber patriotic americans getting pissed off at critics

I love when people have absolutely no clue what they're talking about. Thanks for the laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol: I love when people think they have me figured out.

Just so you know, I'm about 8 pounds lighter right now, but I'm still 6'8"!! :lol:

http://www.boomspeed.com/sixate/DSCF0006.jpg

I love when people go crazy about my opinions.
Simple fact is I have never called any member a name as you just did to me.....
Now who's the hooligan here?

I disagree with Paltrow entirely. I'll still watch some of her movies. I really don't care. I'm not going to go ask my barber, my doctor, my dentist, the person who I buy my shoes from, my grocier, etc. where their stance is and boycott them appropriately. Assuming that she really does hate America, why would you want her hear? Let her go. Until she joins the Taliban or issues a holy war on the west, I really don't give two shits for what she thinks. Or Johnny Depp for that matter, or Malkovich, or anybody else.

Where did she say she hated the US?
Yup, sounds to me like she hates the US :rolleyes:

One thing that's very smart in the US regarding Free Speech vis-a-vis Libel and Slander laws is the broad latitude given for vitriol directed at "public figures".

The "actress" in question is a public figure and is a fitting target. Her words are clearly flamebait.

The other, more obvious, thing about Free Speech is it doesn't protect you from being criticized for what you say. Freely spoken words are often vigorously challenged. That's par for the course.

Let's all have a great big cry about it and be done

Right, and I think it's funny that I'm the bad guy because I get vulgar..... Hmmmmm. I wonder just how many people went off on a cursing rampage when they read what I had to say? But I'm the one who gets criticized. Everyone goes off and swears about shit, I just do it more than most. None of us are angels. :)

Probably some of the most intelligent words in this whole thread.

I'm going to go home tonight and Mrs. O'Rights is going to chew me out because I forgot to pick up some milk on my way home. My daughter is going to recant to me how unfair it is that Emily gets blah-blah dollars from *her* father, just to go to the mall with, and she doesn't have to do any chores...blahblahblah. My 16 month old son is going to drag out every toy he owns tonight, and show them *all* to me, expecting enthusiastic approval on each and every one. Dinner will be good, it usually is (Mrs. O'Rights knows how to cook.) I will get all the kids settled down in time for The West Wing, and enjoy that hour. (Yes, I do know that Martin Sheen isn't really the president.) I will get a shower, probably have a snack, and go to bed. The sun will come up again tomorrow.

Gwyneth just doesn't affect my life. Nor does anything that she says, or does.

Since some people don't like how I chose to express my opinions I got one from someone who would be more pleasurable for you to read... Kinda funny that the chic who wrote this articles feels the same way as me, and I'm sure she fucking cussed that bitch out too. ;)

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I hope this was a more pleasing opinion.... Now someone tell me this chic doesn't feel the same way as me, so her point is no more valid just because she words it differently. It all has the same meaning, and nobody can deny it.

Her point is even less valid, as she takes the approach that because she's able to show the fallacies of another human being, then she is obviously morally superior to said fallable human.

Sixate, you're so disturbingly wrong on this issue that it hurts. So many people fail to understand that those who question the infringements of our rights are equally if not more fervently patriotic. I for one would rather live precariously free, with each breath my possibly last, than safely chained as the current administration thinks is proper.

I'll even take it beyond personal opinion and throw it back to those men who felt that their current situation was politically and socially unpalatable.

"Those who would be willing to sacrifice essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" -- Benjamin Franklin

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -- Voltaire

"The 'Tree of Liberty' letter
From Thomas Jefferson to William Smith


Paris, November 13, 1787

DEAR SIR, -- I am now to acknoledge the receipt of your favors of October the 4th, 8th, & 26th. In the last you apologise for your letters of introduction to Americans coming here. It is so far from needing apology on your part, that it calls for thanks on mine. I endeavor to show civilities to all the Americans who come here, & will give me opportunities of doing it: and it is a matter of comfort to know from a good quarter what they are, & how far I may go in my attentions to them. Can you send me Woodmason's bills for the two copying presses for the M. de la Fayette, & the M. de Chastellux? The latter makes one article in a considerable account, of old standing, and which I cannot present for want of this article. -- I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: & very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: & what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent & persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & a half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusetts: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen-yard in order. I hope in God this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted. -- You ask me if any thing transpires here on the subject of S. America? Not a word. I know that there are combustible materials there, and that they wait the torch only. But this country probably will join the extinguishers. -- The want of facts worth communicating to you has occasioned me to give a little loose to dissertation. We must be contented to amuse, when we cannot inform.

Just as the British press did in the 1770s, the current administration has over-hyped the "danger" and over-taxed their credibility far more than once. Where were the subsequent attacks? Where were the NBC weapons in Iraq? Where was the Al-Qaeda/Hussein link? Where is Colin Powell's conscience?

I honestly think Paltrow's reservations about the atmosphere in America are more than legitimate. The duty of any citizen is to vigilantly monitor the actions of his government, and when the government oversteps its bounds, it is the duty of the citizen to rectify the situation. Just as the government has obligations, so do the citizens--if either fails in its duties, then it is up to the other to follow up on things.

There are far more conscientious objectors in this nation than you might believe. Our qualms are no more unjustified than someone with full faith in the government. In fact, worrying about the actions of an overzealous government is just justified, it's rather reasonable. Where does the current trend in American Foreign Policy end?


As far as that woman who wrote the article, she seems so over-biased it's not even funny. She seems to make out like those of us who question the current administration have no clue about the Constitution, our rights, or anything else unless we're fed it through a left-wing organization. I doubt she's even read the USA PATRIOT Act, probably the single largest abridgement of CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHTS that this nation has ever been subjected to. She implies we've never read the Constititution, but apparently she doesn't believe that due process, warranted search and seizure clauses, Miranda rights (though admittedly guaranteed through judicial review), privacy rights or a myriad of other constitutionally guaranteed rights are necessary to be a good citizen. Fuck that.

Gwenyth Paltrow is wrong because of the genocide of the Jews in WW2.

:lol: You're kidding, right? :hmm:

Maybe by the "abridged" version she means the original one. You know, before it was change to discourage those godless socialists.

It seems obvious from the tone of the article that it was written by and for those who subscribe to toby keith brand love-it-or-leave-it patriotism. In which case you're probably better off on your own, sixate.

No, her opinion also has a negative Socio-Economic impact upon the indiginous peoples of Uruguay.

I'm not even gonna touch this subject



Ok maybe a little..... First off: Sixate, you need to just calm down and realize thats it is because of what america is that she has the right to say what she said. Just as it is your right to call her a "bitch."

Second: She wants to leave... fine, who gives a shit? Just build a bridge and get the fuck over it.

Besides I'ld rather be in a different country right now anyway....The temp here is 10 degrees below freeze-your-freekin-ass-off

That's complete and utter, closeminded bullshit.

I moved to the States from my home country, but that does not mean I do not love the country I was born and raised in. In the contrary, I love it more than America - naturally. Which country you choose to live in doesn't mean you love that country, or even like it.