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This could go into politics, but I'd rather get everyones opinion.
Now I'll do my best to keep calm......
This stupid fucking bitch needs to keep her over-paid, by hard working over-patriotic American's, mouth fucking shut! Fuck her. Like her kid would ever step foot into a public school or ever live in a place called reality. Christ she annoys the shit outa me. I could care less that she doesn't agree with the war, but how the fuck can one move out of the country and say it's not suitable for me to raise my kid there and expect us to believe she loves America. This bitch loves your money, not America.

mrbuck12000

Ahhhh.
they all just like to be different. God love em...cuz we really don't. Although i do like coldplay...well i did until they got to big.

mrb

The_Dude

she should raise the child in the US and teach him/her to change the current atmostphere .

she's also losin child credit from her income taxes .

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Holo

Johnny Depp and John Malkovich have done the same thing. If they don't like it here, let em leave. They're not the problem, it's ppl who blindly follow their sentiments because they are celebs.

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Sixate:

A question: If one of the things that America stands for is freedom - particularily freedom of speech - and you are a patriot who loves your country (which I do not doubt), how do you square this with telling a critic to shut up?

I'll grant that Paltrow is dumb. I'll grant that she might even be flat-out wrong. Why does that result in a call to silence?

Keep in mind that John Stuart Mill says in On Liberty that even offensive speech can serve freedom by exposing its own fallacies.

Lebell

Well, Thank God you kept calm on this.

I would have hated to see you lose your cool


As I stated on another board, I read this and my Give-a-Shit-O-Meter didn't even move.

No. Really.

It didn't.

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sixate

Because a critic doesn't leave. She says she loves her country, but where does she live? Where is her kid gonna be raised? Not in the place in which she "says" she loves. If she loved America so much she would be here and raise her kid here. All she loves is the high and mighty dollar that she gets from the people who live here. She loves her bank account and the fantasy in which she lives.

slimcr

whats so upsetting? so she wants to live somewhere else? shes entitled to that, you're entitled to live there. no reason to get upset.

if you dont care for a child you get blasted, if you do, you get blasted?

alot more things to worry about than where an actress wants to live. If she's so dumb, why worry?

Live and let live.

GakFace

yeah, I agree with Sixate here. If she truely loved this country.. then she would live here, and so would her child. I've grown up in this country and its cool.. as long as she doesn't live next to Sixate... I think she'd be ok.

Although, this doesn't make her Bitch... It just means she needs to choose her wording a little bit better.

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santafe5000

Let her go. Thats one less person in a SUV on the freeway here in LA.
A person has the right to say what they want, Live where they want, and do what ever job they can get. That is what all the wars for our Democracy have been about.
You have the right to dis-approve of the programs put forth by the administration, just don't try to shoot the top guy.

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BoCo

I agree with sixate. She's another America-hating, over-paid "actress" who raped Americans of their money through movie tickets and now has so much hate for us and our way of life that she's decided to bail.

Also, anyone who disses Americans for loving our country (being Patriotic) needs to be given a 1-way ticket out and not allowed back in. Love it or get the fuck out.

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whoa... *wince*... i stopped really hearing what you were saying after this Sixate...

spived2

I feel that she needs to leave. She's taking the overblown stories that she sees on the news about guns and war and (not being a member of the REAL world because she's a celebrity and all...) thinks it's happening everywhere! Now she's hating on America, the country she says she loves, by moving to another country, and I say good riddance.

and candide, if she doesn't live in america, she doesnt get the same rights that we do. Hopefully she moves to rijad or something where she won't even be able to talk....

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who gives a fuck? why does this bullshit even make the news


ah well... anything for content.

Candide

Sixate - my question is not about her locality. It is about freedom of expression and how that squares with American freedoms. I really am curious as to how you answer the question.

Regards,
Candide.

ninety09

Whoa, give her a break, she just wants to raise her child in the best place possible. It's funny to see how some Americans get so pissed off when they see people who think that the US might not be the best country of the world..

She loves America, but loves another country better. boohoo, get over it.

Jam

ok... this whole thread here just proves the whole over patriotic shit... look how upset you guys are getting because of her choice where to raise her child... i agree with the things in that little snippet



/me is now hated by all american tfp members

Boo

Let her pay her taxes for US earned income. Thats all I ask. No tax shelters or evasions. She can live where she wants, I do.

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exponent_doobie

It's not her fault that many Americans go and pay to watch her works of shit. Albeit movie tickets are way overpriced in some areas.

analog

I think we're getting upset because she's being snotty.

"Guns in schools" and whatnot... like sixate said, there's no fuckin way her kid would EVER see a public school, let alone ANY type of dangerous situation in any way. She's being stuck-up, no two ways about it.

tehblaed

Jam161 for president.


How is it your right to state where any man or woman can or cannot raise their own children, regardless of their status in society?

Sixate and the rest of you, with people like you around, I may not want to raise my kids here either. She's right. You being so infuriated by such a simple, small and most importantly inconsequential detail to your life scares me. And I'm sure it's scared many people, including Gwyneth.

omega2K4

I agree with her, whenever and IF I have kids, I'm definitely going to raise my children outside of the U.S. somewhere.

That's so true. Not the "over-patriotic" statement, but how she said the majority of the people in the U.S. talk like "We're number one and the rest of the world doesn't matter.".

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Mr.Deflok

Agreed, if she wants to raise her child in another country, go ahead, you've got the money, have fun! If I ever have children I'd ideally want to raise them in Japan a couple of hundred years ago.

Jam

hahah i dont think thats possible :P

PorscheBunny

Paltrow said something rather unintelligent. Whomever decided this was newsworthy is less intelligent than Paltrow. Same for anyone willing to get into a political uproar over it.

Smart actress: Natalie Portman

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Damnfinn

Let her and others like her think they have been violated some how and they'll start screaming "but I'm an American citizen, you can't do that to me".

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Strange Famous

I just think she's pretty hott. I can understand her wanting to raise her child somewhere different, but i doubt she will find that London is anymore pleasant than any other major city.

And Yeah, Natalie is the best!!!

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Milopost

If you beleive that the social climate in your home country (doesnt have to be US, could be anywhere, afganistan, even) has changed for the worse - whether opinions have become more dangerous, or possibly society is more arrogant - and you have a choice to live somewhere else, why should you be the subject of scorn and ridicule, regardless of your social or financial status.

Vespertine

Exactly. Why is she making this sort of thing public? Does she honestly think her "adoring fans" need to know where she chooses to raise her children? She's using her celebrity status to whine about random bullshit she's obviously biased about.

Let her dumbass leave.

Derwood

The problem isn't what celebrities say, the problem is that you care what they say. If you didn't care, they would shut up.

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splck

It's funny how some people can't accept the fact that some of their fellow citizens don't think that the US is the best place to raise children. Some love your society, some don't.
Wanting the best for your children is not being stuck-up.

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Fly

freedom.......

of......

speech........


she's just expressing her rights.


free.....

country..........

so.....she's free to do what she wants .........


(i second the "who gives a fuck as well")

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merkerguitars

Unsafe country??? Pfft maybe if she lived in a ghetto..... she just needs to stfu.

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I'm of the "Who gives a fuck?" camp although I can hardly blame her. Since Sept 11, 2001 the USA has become a violently patriotic country. The government is stripping the rights of the people and the people are letting them. The people are unfriendly & suspicious of strangers and foriegners. Citizens born in the USA who have different beliefs (ie. muslim) are treated like third class citizens. The USA is quickly becoming the most hated nation on earth to the pointof being compared to Hitler's Germany. If I lived in the USA and had the option to live in another country until my homeland regained it's senses I would take the oportunity and leave.

timalkin

Freedom of speech is a two-way street. You have the right to say stupid shit and I also have the right to tell you to shut the fuck up and get the hell out of here.

She needs to move to a more "enlightened" socialist country where everybody is happy and disarmed. She'll have nothing to worry about because she can afford to live in the best places with the best bodyguards.

Fuck 'er.

sixate

Gee. lemme guess. You're Canadian, right?

Violently patriotic is just a dumb comment. I live in America, and I have never heard any stories of some over-patriotic individuals beating and killing anyone who are against the government. Another thing, there's no such thing as being over-patriotic.
Since you don't live here you have no clue how people are treated. You just go by whatever the hell you want to believe.

Comparing the US to Hitler's Germany is even more retarded. If that were the case we'd be gassing all the America hating Canadians and Muslim's right now, but that'll never ever happen. It's not an option or even a thought process. Plus if Canada was ever attacked by anyone, we'd be the first one to do something. Not Canada.

Lastly, I haven't lost any freedom over the past few years, so I have no clue what you're even talking about.

tehblaed

"If that were the case we'd be gassing all the America hating Canadians and Muslim's right now, but that'll never happen"

More like, If that were the case we'd be using unprecedented attack strategies to wage war on supposedly terrorizing countries, where the vast majority of citizens are Muslim. But that has already happened. Not to mention imperializing our foreign policy agenda. Take over Afghanistan and create a controlled government. Check. Take over Iraq and create a controlled government, using the vice president's former company to uncontestedly rebuild the damage we caused ( http://truthout.org/docs_04/011804E.shtml ). Almost a check.

And yeah, sixate, you actually have lost a LOT of freedom - if you would simply open your eyes. Especially on the internet, due to the USA PATRIOT Act, many of my (and yours, too) freedoms have been severely limited. http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/0194.ACLU.e-Privacy.htm , http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/Safe...ID=12126&c=207

Stop being so naive, it pains me.

BoCo

AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

tehblaed actually used links to Truthout.org and the ACLU to help state his point. That's like using a neo-Nazi to explain all the bad things Jews have done over the last hundred years.

I'm gonna go puke now.

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Lebell

Maybe we could calm down and get back on topic.

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powder

Actually sixate I'm not Canadian.

And no you are not gassing canadians & muslims but you are deporting Canadian citzens to third countries that are known to torture thier prisoners. Your own citizens of muslim faith ARE being treated as second class citizens, I have seen it first hand.

You personally may not have noticed any changes in your freedoms because you are a nice white boy who does not attempt to use the full extent of your former freedom.