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tardka 10-18-2003 06:28 PM

Isn't evolution based a lot on survival of the fittest, and I can most surely say that has been ineffective in human society for a while now.

grumpyolddude 10-18-2003 07:21 PM

Nice, considered response Rogue. Well done!

mydragonfido 10-20-2003 01:38 AM

That is such a crock all the scientist trying to perdict things why cann't people leave things in gods hands!! He will take care of things!!!

Dibbler 10-20-2003 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Orodinn
No way the human race is ever gonna to survive that long.
If we last another 200 years it will be a miracle...

mb99usa 10-20-2003 08:50 AM

Its an interesting evolutionary theory, but let me ask: Why might we not evolve into something totally different?

Throughout history our species has continued to evolve. Look at the differences between say Asians and North Americans. Both physically and physiologically (sp?) we are different. This is because of environment and social pressures. Why should this not continue?

I agree that both sexes play a role bigger than just reproduction. Maybe there will be a merging of the 2 and we will get the best of both.

raeanna74 10-20-2003 09:18 AM

I can't imagine a world without men. What would us women have to complain about except each other? ;)

Honestly I don't see it as being possible. It would have to be a very controlled orchestrated environment and I don't think it's feasible to have a world that regulated. I don't want someone - anyone determining what kind of child I bare. I want the natural way of procreation - there is nothing so magical or miraculous. I think that kind of world would be soo cold. No thanks.

Nisses 10-20-2003 09:48 AM

here's an idea then. If life keeps evolving, and females possess the most stable DNA, then are it not the males that have the radical element, the most possible parametres and changes.

With most changes being well within the limits of acceptable and viable, and some falling outside, for the better or worse.

In that way I would look at female DNA as the tempering effect, and the male DNA as the blind & wild driving force behind DNA evolution.

So in that way I would say that a world without males is pointless, as is a world without females. Since a world with only female DNA is destined to fail, because not enough variety is present to overcome normal events in the world.
The same way, a world with only male DNA will die out, as a horrible collection of complete freaks and weirdo's :)

the thing is that atm human society is somewhat disconnected from normal influences of nature, so it doesn't completely hold up anymore, but I would still stand by it. You're never totally free of the planet you live on, no matter how civilised you think you and yours are.

Jasmar 10-20-2003 05:57 PM

I personally dont even understand the second articles theory for the weakening of the y. Is there even any proof that men are becoming less furtile? I mean I know there are less children per family then there have been for hundreds of years but that has more to do with economics then biology.

gabshu 10-21-2003 02:14 PM

I'm in the field of animal science and male animal are lately becoming obseote. For example, male turkeys have been bred to have such large breasts that they can no longer mate with the females, it must be done through artificial insemination. Semen can be frozen for years so it is always more favorable to have females of the species in animals such as dairy cows (obvious) and chicken. Does this mean that male individuals will become estinguished, I doubt it, but do they serve less purpuses

rsl12 10-21-2003 02:28 PM

if asexual reproduction were the best way to evolve, amoebas would be smarter than us by now.


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