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Vilkata 09-28-2003 09:04 PM

5 year old girl makes bong in class
 
http://news.com.au/common/story_page...E13569,00.html

She made a bong out of a coke bottle as a show & tell project.

:lol:

Gotta love today's youth :)

numberfive 09-28-2003 09:13 PM

For the link challenged:

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Girl, 5, makes bong in class
By EDITH BEVIN
September 29, 2003

A five-year-old Territory girl shocked teachers when she showed her class how to make a bong out of a Coke bottle during a ``show and tell'' session.

The incident took place at a primary school in Darwin's northern suburbs.

The revelation comes amid mounting concerns over drug use among Territory primary school students.

At least two instances have been reported to the Education Department of children aged between five and 12 being caught with drugs at school.

In one case the drug was amphetamine. Teachers have indicated this may be the tip of the iceberg.

``The little girl showing how to make a bong was the most in-your-face example of drug culture among primary school students I've heard of,'' one teacher said.

``It's not unheard of that primary school children will be found with drugs at school,'' the teacher said.

``Usually it's just a bit of dope _ they've probably nicked it from their mum's purse and brought it along to show off.

``I've never heard of dealing at a primary school here.''

But dealing at Territory schools is not unheard of, police say.

The NT Drug Enforcement Unit has run operations at high schools targeting dealing on school grounds.

Police would not name the schools involved.

The Northern Territory News has learned a member of the NT Police has been seconded to the Education Department to work on their new drug policy and protocols.

``The drug education policy is under revision to ensure it accurately reflects modern trends,'' the spokesperson said.

Students with drugs at school are reported to the school-based constable and are subject to suspension.

A Department of Education spokesman said students being found with drugs at Territory schools was rare.

The spokesman said prosecutions against students are not always pursued.

``Depending on the incident, the constable may refer the matter to the police for further action,'' the spokesman said.

``Usually, the student involved would be suspended for a period determined by the school, taking into consideration the seriousness of the incident.

``The student would also receive counselling and would be required to successfully undertake a re-entry interview before returning to the school once the period of suspension has passed.''

Northern Territory News
I'm amazed. I just recently learned the art of coke bottle bongs and here a 5 year old is doing it for show and tell.

anti fishstick 09-28-2003 10:11 PM

i know the art of pop cans but not coke bottles! :o

GakFace 09-28-2003 10:13 PM

Damn... the question is, after that for show and tell, how do you keep the stadards she just set? ;)

Five year old KNOWING how to make them tho? Sounds like they need to do some investigation... I couldn't make a damn thing when I was five, so if I knew how to make a bong.. um.. wha?

Astrocloud 09-28-2003 10:27 PM

I am both amused and horrified at this. As an avid Poke Smotter I take offense at the authorities homing in on this incident. On the other hand... I wonder if her mom can get any good dope.

World's King 09-28-2003 11:30 PM

I blame it on society.


*nothing else to say*

sixate 09-29-2003 02:26 AM

Someone needs to take that child away from her dumbass crackhead parents. Wanna bet she learned that trick at home?

CyN1caL 09-29-2003 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by sixate
Someone needs to take that child away from her dumbass crackhead parents. Wanna bet she learned that trick at home?
Or maybe she is just a child prodigy in disguise! :p

Bill O'Rights 09-29-2003 04:09 AM

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Originally posted by sixate
Wanna bet she learned that trick at home?
Aw...c'mon. This is the 21st century. She learned it in daycare. :crazy:

merkerguitars 09-29-2003 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by sixate
Someone needs to take that child away from her dumbass crackhead parents. Wanna bet she learned that trick at home?
Most likely....or could of been a brother or friends brother she learned it from...scary..

JStrider 09-29-2003 06:18 AM

hmmm... i dont know how to do the coke bottle... or the can... but then i dont have much need...

tinger 09-29-2003 06:40 AM

Social services definitely needs to do a check of that girl's household. There's no way that someone there didn't teach her that.

Though I must admit I find this very funny in a sad way.

RAMONES!!! 09-29-2003 07:32 AM

that is funny, but not so funny that a 5 year old knows it, i wonder who told her...

Arc101 09-29-2003 08:15 AM

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Aw...c'mon. This is the 21st century. She learned it in daycare
You are so wrong - I'm sure it was on Sesame Street the other week.:D

Pyrate 09-29-2003 08:30 AM

Hahahahaha!

Children never cease to amaze me...

Lebell 09-29-2003 08:39 AM

Well,

I guess I'm greatful she didn't show them how to make a shotgun bong.

sigh...

Miekle 09-29-2003 08:45 AM

Meh thats horible. Back when I was 5 I wasn't even aloud to drink coke.

Phaenx 09-29-2003 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Arc101
You are so wrong - I'm sure it was on Sesame Street the other week.:D
"Hey Elmo, lets go see what Linda is doing!"
"Hi Linda!"
"GET OFF ME! WHO ARE YOU!?"
"No! You were doing so well! I'm calling your probation officer!"
"HEY KIDS, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME ARTS AND CRAFTS, THEN SELL THEM FOR BLOW."

The_wall 09-29-2003 10:38 AM

wow thats funny. I didn't even know what a bong was, or pot was at 5 lol. :lol: :lol:

YourNeverThere 09-29-2003 12:45 PM

see... do you ever see 5 year old bring beer bongs to school? or other drinking paraphenalia(ap?)? it's becuase pot is such a taboo, so that bringing it in to school is such a "big thing" if it was legalzed, then it would just be a thing is cigarettes, sure kids still think they are the coolest think but it wears off, and a 5 year old doesn't really think that cigarettes are cool, not yet anyway.

splck 09-29-2003 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
Someone needs to take that child away from her dumbass crackhead parents. Wanna bet she learned that trick at home?
What does crack have to do with bongs?

Sad_Machine 09-29-2003 01:41 PM

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Someone needs to take that child away from her dumbass crackhead parents. Wanna bet she learned that trick at home?
What? Even if her parents are the ones from whom she learned this from, nobody needs to take the kid away. I doubt any parent, in their right mind, would allow a child to smoke marijuana. Perhaps the child was in the room when the parents were doing this and picked it up, in which case the parents should tell the kid that marijuana isn't for her and is an adult thing, and they should smoke weed away from her. But taking the kid away from her parents because her parents smoke herb? That's going to mess the kid up 1000x more than having parents who consume a plant.

Kaos 09-29-2003 01:56 PM

That is really sad, and even if her parents didn't teach her that, they are doing something seriously wrong in raising their child.

sixate 09-29-2003 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by splck
What does crack have to do with bongs?
Nothing, it's just a saying I use all the time.
Basically, I call everyone I know who does any drug a crackhead.
So, what I meant is that I'm sure she learned that trick from her irresponsible weed smoking parents who obviously don't give a fuck about their child because they're too busy getting high. Better?

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Originally posted by Sad_Machine
What? Even if her parents are the ones from whom she learned this from, nobody needs to take the kid away. I doubt any parent, in their right mind, would allow a child to smoke marijuana. Perhaps the child was in the room when the parents were doing this and picked it up, in which case the parents should tell the kid that marijuana isn't for her and is an adult thing, and they should smoke weed away from her. But taking the kid away from her parents because her parents smoke herb? That's going to mess the kid up 1000x more than having parents who consume a plant.
So you think it's fine that a kid watches their parents get high? Many of my friends in high school smoked their first joint from stealing their parents stash. They all learned it from home, and once a few of them turned 16 they started smoking it with their parents...... I wonder why they're all 26-27, living at home, and have no jobs. Isn't it obvious? The best thing that coulda happened to them would've been to be removed from their worthless parents so maybe, just maybe they'd actually have a chance at doing something with their now worthless lives.

IC3 09-29-2003 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
Someone needs to take that child away from her dumbass crackhead parents. Wanna bet she learned that trick at home?
This makes her parents crackheads?

Parents can't be blamed for everything...I know that's where everyone turns thier heads too.

But parents can't watch over thier kids 24/7..It's impossible. Somebody is to blame, But don't be so quick to blame the parents every time.

Nobody is perfect..I don't care who you are.

Loki 09-30-2003 02:19 AM

this reminds me of a joke i once heard from a five year old.

I cant remember the exact joke, but people having sex was involved in some way. anyway, while i heard it, i got the distinct impression that she had no idea what "having sex" meant. but she heard it from another friend/overheard a joke told between older people.

It's probaby the same thing here. She saw someone making a bong, and it probably looked interesting enough for show and tell. it would be interesting to find out if she called it a bong or knew what it was used for, but im guessing not, because the article didnt specifically mention it.

Sapper 09-30-2003 04:05 AM

Yikes - this is kind of dark actually ... :(

Force 10 09-30-2003 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by sixate So you think it's fine that a kid watches their parents get high? Many of my friends in high school smoked their first joint from stealing their parents stash. They all learned it from home, and once a few of them turned 16 they started smoking it with their parents...... I wonder why they're all 26-27, living at home, and have no jobs. Isn't it obvious? The best thing that coulda happened to them would've been to be removed from their worthless parents so maybe, just maybe they'd actually have a chance at doing something with their now worthless lives. [/B]
No shit. I smoked a lot of pot as a youth and was lucky enough to "figure it out." Now, I'm the only one out of my highschool "close" friends that doesn't smoke. Come to think about it, I'm the only one of them with an education and a career rather then a job. What a bunch of dorks you all are who insist smoking weed is just fine. Not for your children, come on... give them the chance.

Sad_Machine 09-30-2003 04:45 PM

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So you think it's fine that a kid watches their parents get high? ...... I wonder why they're all 26-27, living at home, and have no jobs.
I never said that a child should see their parents smoke weed. In fact, I said " they should smoke weed away from her." ...and on the topic of your friends, that doesn't happen to everyone. There are truly a lot of very successful pot-smokers out there, a lot of which you wouldn't suspect to be.

Pretty much, if someone is stupid before they start smoking, they're going to still be stupid when they're a smoker. However, most people don't end up washed-up losers.

bernadette 09-30-2003 05:25 PM

it's just sad that a 5 yr old has half a clue about a bong.
and maybe she didn't learn how to make a pop bottle bong from her parents (who cares who taught her this nifty trick), the parents should be interested enough to KNOW what their child is taking to school for show-n-tell. i can't imagine any parent on either side of the fence wanting their kid to show the class how make a cheap bong.

Force 10 09-30-2003 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Sad_Machine
I never said that a child should see their parents smoke weed. In fact, I said " they should smoke weed away from her." ...and on the topic of your friends, that doesn't happen to everyone. There are truly a lot of very successful pot-smokers out there, a lot of which you wouldn't suspect to be.

Pretty much, if someone is stupid before they start smoking, they're going to still be stupid when they're a smoker. However, most people don't end up washed-up losers.

I disagree. I think most people who smoke weed on a regular basis don't know who they are. I believe most people who smoke weed on a regular basis are hiding from reality. I do agree that there are a lot of financially successful pot smokers in this world. I do not believe that they are mentally stable. I think they are slaves to the drug and only interested in creating a flase sence of reality of the world once they get home from work. I do believe most pot smoking lifers don't have much to contribute to society.

sixate 09-30-2003 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Ruprex
I disagree. I think most people who smoke weed on a regular basis don't know who they are. I believe most people who smoke weed on a regular basis are hiding from reality. I do agree that there are a lot of financially successful pot smokers in this world. I do not believe that they are mentally stable. I think they are slaves to the drug and only interested in creating a flase sence of reality of the world once they get home from work. I do believe most pot smoking lifers don't have much to contribute to society.
Agreed, and I'm glad that you can say it in a kind manner because I can't. I've just had too many negative experiences with people who do drugs to have a nice thing to say about drug abuse.

MacGnG 09-30-2003 08:10 PM

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In one case the drug was amphetamine[/B]
that could just have been ADD medicine.

well thats still not good, but this is kinda ridiculous.

battlemouth 09-30-2003 09:10 PM

for some reason i doubt it was ADD medicine

YourNeverThere 09-30-2003 09:36 PM

Ruprex, This whole debate and every single nearly identical debate that goes on here comes down to the fact that you, or sixate, or whoever, don't like drugs, and other people do. Sixate has been clear and articulate about why he doesn't many many times and I can respect that. Granted, I don't live where you live, so I have no idea, but really, lets break it down.
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Originally posted by Ruprex
I disagree. I think most people who smoke weed on a regular basis don't know who they are.
I guess that was hyberbole, trying to overstate for emphasis, you think people who smoke drugs are dumb...

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I believe most people who smoke weed on a regular basis are hiding from reality.


For sure for some people it is an escape, it's been proven, as far as anything concerning pot as been proven, that it's not physically addictive. So, it's not that they NEED to smoke it, not physically anyway. So I guess you don't drink, or really do anything distracting at all, because escaping reality is something that we all do.
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I do agree that there are a lot of financially successful pot smokers in this world. I do not believe that they are mentally stable.


Ya there are tons of financially successful potheads, but mentally unstable? really? because they get high? You think that becuase they get stoned, they are mentally unstable...
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I think they are slaves to the drug and only interested in creating a flase sence of reality of the world once they get home from work. I do believe most pot smoking lifers don't have much to contribute to society. [/B]
Man, you start off with some hyperbole, and I can only wish that this part was too, I mean, 'Slaves to the drug'? I've smoked pot for a long time, many of the people I know older and younger do, and I've never once met a 'slave' to it, ever. And you don't believe that we have anything to contribute to the society? do you like Jimmy Hendricks? Many many writters, now and in history, there are pot smokers in almost every niche that this world has to offer, I'm pritty sure they have lots to offer.

ktthequeen 09-30-2003 11:27 PM

Dayam.

I couldn't make a coke bottle bong if I tried.

Nefir 10-01-2003 06:03 AM

When you've got no obligations to support, tech, and protect another human being that can't do it on its own, feel free to do all the drugs your poor body can stand. But when you're raising a child, that child needs you at your best, and your drug habit needs a pause.

This is a sign of the fact that many parents today have their priorities REALLY screwed up, cause the home is the only place this kid could have learned how to make a bong at her age.

The government is doing the right thing in investigating dealing in schools. Schools and homes with dependent children are no place for drugs, IMHO...

rev_skarekroe 10-01-2003 06:09 AM

It's not a bong. It's a WATERPIPE. Bongs are illegal, dontcha know. sk

Sad_Machine 10-01-2003 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Ruprex
I disagree. I think most people who smoke weed on a regular basis don't know who they are. I believe most people who smoke weed on a regular basis are hiding from reality. I do agree that there are a lot of financially successful pot smokers in this world. I do not believe that they are mentally stable. I think they are slaves to the drug and only interested in creating a flase sence of reality of the world once they get home from work. I do believe most pot smoking lifers don't have much to contribute to society.
Personally, I think a lot of people who smoke weed actually have a deeper knowledge of who they are. Sure, there are some people that smoke weed to get "messed up," but marijuana also inspires you to look at things from a different point of view and different state of mind. One can discover many insightful things about themselves and the world around them when high. Marijuana helps one to relax and in that time, you do a lot of thinking. On the topic of smokers not being mentally stable, I really have no idea where your coming from on that one. And as for smokers not having much to contribute to society, art and music go hand-in-hand with drugs, as does most literature.

twotimesadingo 10-01-2003 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Sad_Machine
Personally, I think a lot of people who smoke weed actually have a deeper knowledge of who they are. Sure, there are some people that smoke weed to get "messed up," but marijuana also inspires you to look at things from a different point of view and different state of mind. One can discover many insightful things about themselves and the world around them when high. Marijuana helps one to relax and in that time, you do a lot of thinking.
Many things make me reject drug use, but this argument alone really hammers home my decision on the subject.

People (and I'm generalizing; I'm referring to two standard deviations on the bell curve) don't smoke pot to ponder existence, they smoke it to get high. If you really want to argue otherwise -- regarding the proportion, at least -- then you're deluding yourself. I don't care how you want to rationalize it for yourself (you're doing something illegal, and there's no way around it), but don't peddle your veiled, false logic here. You tell me that it allows you to look at life in a different manner, from a different perspective; how 'bout you go on a fucking hunger strike, then? Not as enjoyable, is it?

It's all about integrity. I drink fermented beverages. I don't claim to do that because there's a delicate point between total inebriation and stone cold sobriety that lowers my inhibitions to a level which allows me to live a fuller, more enjoyable life and consider things in greater detail; I do it to get drunk, or to nurse something with some friends, or to dance like a white boy should. I'm honest with myself.
Yeah, I've come to some pretty strange conclusions when my mind is muddled with drink, but I'm not gonna lie through my teeth and tell you that's why I do it...

Beat those parents with a shovel, I say. Their self-involved activity is nothing if not detrimental to their child. Their inability to monitor such simple activities as show-and-tell, and secret their illegal activities from their child, show that they are still babies themselves.

splck 10-01-2003 01:37 PM

I wonder how outraged people would be if she came to class and mixed a rum and coke for show and tell.
I'm not condoning making a bong at all, I think it's terrible that she learned how to make one.

Mupwah 10-01-2003 01:52 PM

Regardless if the parents actually taught the kid to do it the are mostly responsible. Parents especially are the most influncial people in a childs life. Kids are very perceptive and pick up on attitudes expressed by the parent. They may not smoke in front of a kid but thier attitude shows what they think. Parents teach morals and values which guide behavoir especially at a young age. Even if a brother or friend showed the kid it is still the parents fault for not teaching the child appropriate behavoir.
The parents need to be dealt with.

I spend my working days dealing with the problems caused by substance abuse. Maybe their are some that use for"recreation" but wait untill they get caught with some dope during a traffic stop and watch thier life spiral downward. Court fees, lawyers, maybe jail and supervision. Also the stigma of being labled a dope smoker. That guy with the successful job may find himself in the unemployment line because his employer has a zero tolerence policy. If he is lucky maybe he only has to go to 30 days rehab. Then everbody has their eagle eye on you.

Doing any kind of illegal substance has potential consequences. So does drinking and driving. If you are willing to risk all the consequenses for doing drugs or driving drunk ask yourself, Is this rational behavoir? I could end up in jail, lose my job, pay thousands of dollars to the court, but what the hell I'll do it any way.

I have 13 years of experience dealing with substance abuse and I can tell you if its Illegal it will very likley catch up to you one day. Are you willing to risk it?

sixate 10-01-2003 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by splck
I wonder how outraged people would be if she came to class and mixed a rum and coke for show and tell.
I would react exactly the same way because we all know where the kid would learn how to do it.
I don't think that parents should be getting high or drunk around their kids. That's just not a good thing... EVER!

BlueBongo 10-01-2003 02:12 PM

It's amazing what things are coming to now-a-days. I didn't really even learn about or use drugs until I was in HS... I never would've thought of making a bong in class when I was 5... all those opportunities in ART class and I wasted 'em... dammit.

Force 10 10-01-2003 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sad_Machine
Personally, I think a lot of people who smoke weed actually have a deeper knowledge of who they are. Sure, there are some people that smoke weed to get "messed up," but marijuana also inspires you to look at things from a different point of view and different state of mind. One can discover many insightful things about themselves and the world around them when high. Marijuana helps one to relax and in that time, you do a lot of thinking. On the topic of smokers not being mentally stable, I really have no idea where your coming from on that one. And as for smokers not having much to contribute to society, art and music go hand-in-hand with drugs, as does most literature.
This is what I'm talking about YoureNeverThere...This is a good argument without an attack. I totally respect Sad_Machine and he's altered, if only slightly, my perception of this subject.

I will say I went overboard Sad_Machine on the not being able to contribute to society...It must just be that the over acheivers I tend to hang out with, the parents whos kids respect and try to idolize them don't smoke weed. I can see your point but since I haven't smoked weed on a regular basis for years, I wouldn't know.

Force 10 10-01-2003 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by twotimesadingo
Many things make me reject drug use, but this argument alone really hammers home my decision on the subject.

People (and I'm generalizing; I'm referring to two standard deviations on the bell curve) don't smoke pot to ponder existence, they smoke it to get high. If you really want to argue otherwise -- regarding the proportion, at least -- then you're deluding yourself. I don't care how you want to rationalize it for yourself (you're doing something illegal, and there's no way around it), but don't peddle your veiled, false logic here. You tell me that it allows you to look at life in a different manner, from a different perspective; how 'bout you go on a fucking hunger strike, then? Not as enjoyable, is it?

It's all about integrity. I drink fermented beverages. I don't claim to do that because there's a delicate point between total inebriation and stone cold sobriety that lowers my inhibitions to a level which allows me to live a fuller, more enjoyable life and consider things in greater detail; I do it to get drunk, or to nurse something with some friends, or to dance like a white boy should. I'm honest with myself.
Yeah, I've come to some pretty strange conclusions when my mind is muddled with drink, but I'm not gonna lie through my teeth and tell you that's why I do it...

Beat those parents with a shovel, I say. Their self-involved activity is nothing if not detrimental to their child. Their inability to monitor such simple activities as show-and-tell, and secret their illegal activities from their child, show that they are still babies themselves.

YES!

IC3 10-01-2003 04:42 PM

Too off topic..Started new thread

twotimesadingo 10-01-2003 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by IC3
I love how people who don't smoke Marijuana can say how addicting it is and how it screws you up.

Have you ever smoked Marijuana? (And I don't care about how screwed up your pothead friends are, I am asking you)
Nope. Don't ever plan to. And I'll still tell you that it screws you up. Why? Because medical studies show that it negatively impacts brain cells. There's controversy as to whether the brain cells are killed, whether they are put to sleep for such a length of time as to suffer from atrophy and die, or whether they are merely affected for a shorter span of time. But nevertheless, brain cells are affected. I would call that "screw[ing] you up." Granted, that's a matter of semantics, and is entirely subjective, but at least now you know where I'm coming from.
My pothead friends are screwed up, by the way. And do you know why I generalize? Have you ever taken a statistics class? A large sample (generally agreed upon to be greater than 20) is often indicative of characteristics within the population from which it's taken. That's simply biology and mathematics. Out of 20 pot-smokers I know, six have gone to college and/or have steady jobs. Not a very good ration.
Save your breath telling me "everyone is not that same", and "it's not fair to generalize." The former is obvious, and the latter I've explained in more than suitable detail.

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It is not physically addictive, You don't crave it like you do a smoke....I don't anyways. I smoke it cause I love the high you get from it.

And what Sad_Machine said about marijuana letting you look at pretty much everything in a different perspective...Is totally true. And don't say it isn't...Unless YOU have actually had the expierence.
You smoke it 'cause you like the high. So... exactly what I said, right?
You'll also recall that I didn't argue effects of marijuana, I argued motives for smoking the stuff. My point, as I noted above, you proved.

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Don't bitch about people who smoke Marijuana cause it's illegal. I bet the majority of this board who doesn't do drugs or drink...Or do anything Illegal, Still download MP3's. Don't say that's different, Cause Illegal is Illegal.
Well, shit. I didn't realize we were going to look at crimes in a quantitative manner, and disregard the severity of each. I'll make sure to use this same approach the next time someone tries to tell me there's no difference between murder and petty theft.
For possession of pot, you can go to jail for 10 years (in most states; there is no federal law after all).
For online copyright infringements, one can go to jail for 3 years. Not to champion the government, but even life politicians, with their completely jaded and skewed views of life, see a difference.

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To all of you who are in love with classic rock (Jimi Hendrix, The Doors etc etc.) Some of you are so against drugs, But remember that album that came out when you were younger from Jimi Hendrix or whoever? I would put money down that all or most was written under the influence of Marijuana or some drug. Even today we know some of our favourite artists are doing drugs, But everyone who is against drugs will still go out & buy that CD.

Some of the best music has been created by pot heads...So don't knock it...Or cut yourself loose from anything & everything that has been invented under the Influence of Marijuana...Cause next time you go out & buy a CD that is produced by a Pot Head...You are supporting their habbits..In a small way.
I'm not sure if this is in response to me, or others; I'll answer as though it was intended for me:

I don't care. I never said pot-heads should die, or that they were a plague to society. Do all the drugs you want, just don't hand me a line of bullshit to justify your addiction and illegal activities. Don't try to tell me that it makes you philosophical, that life becomes more beautiful, or that existence becomes clearer; you're fucking high. If it were about the altered state of consciousness and its effects upon your inquisitive psyche, there are plenty of alternatives, some that are even healthy for you. Why not give those a whirl?

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Or is it that if you can get some kind of entertainment out of it, Then it's ok if it was a pot head who made that song...But the average guy smoking a joint after work is SO wrong and illegal and screwing up our lives and mind. Well, I would like to think that you people would think the same for Musicians and other Celebrities...But they are famous so it's ok right?
No. I believe I've already rebutted this point.
My favorite band crusades freedom of choice -- and thus drug use. Do I agree? Yes, and no. I think personal choice is a great ideal, and that very few things should limit it.
Do I think drug use should be widespread, or legalized? No. Argue all you want, but it is dangerous. That high kid, driving his car while trying to stuff a Twinkie into his mouth, is dangerous. Don't even dare call him an anomaly, 'cause I'll call you a willfully ignorant fuck.

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I have been smoking since I was about 16 or 17..I am 25 now. I graduated from high school, Got a full time job, I now own my car...Have a few other things that I worked hard to get.

But every pot head is a loser, Lazy, No motivation etc etc.

Don't judge every smoker the same way as you judge your friends that smoke.
Damn. I'm sorry for basing my perception upon past experiences and events. Wait...! Doesn't everyone do that? Isn't that a basic fact of life?

I thought that all birds could fly until I studied the ostrich in school. For most authority figures, this was acceptable. Yeah, my perception before that was wrong, but it was pretty close. Conversely, trying saying all birds can't fly because you know the ostrich can't seems rather uninformed.

Congratulations on going places. As I've mentioned, I know many who have not. It takes a special will, intellect, and emotional makeup. Given that, maybe you want to consider yourself the exception to the rule, rather than the opposite.

striderkevin 10-01-2003 06:01 PM

With all that's on television these days, this incident can be partially attributed to that. However, when you really get down to it, the entire matter comes back to the parents. It's them who usually corrupts their children, and they got nobody to blame but themselves.

galaxygirl 10-01-2003 07:14 PM

I agree with twotimesadingo. Didn't the parents notice that she was taking the makings of a Coke bottle bong with her to school?

Esoteric 10-01-2003 07:55 PM

Pretty sad what some kids can learn in a household.

Jonsgirl 10-02-2003 09:58 PM

I have to wonder, though, if she really understood what she was making and what it was used for. The report never says that the girl said "hey, everyone, I'm going to make a bong. It is used for smoking pot."
It's easy for people who have been around pot to recognize a bong, but you have to remeber that she is only five. She might of thought it was just something pretty. And it's not like she showed her classmates how to pack the bowl or anything.

Force 10 10-03-2003 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by YourNeverThere
Ruprex, This whole debate and every single nearly identical debate that goes on here comes down to the fact that you, or sixate, or whoever, don't like drugs, and other people do. Sixate has been clear and articulate about why he doesn't many many times and I can respect that. Granted, I don't live where you live, so I have no idea, but really, lets break it down.
You not living where I live has nothing to do with you having no idea, trust me in that. But since you’re eager and I was quite lazy in my last post, let’s “break it down” further so the populace can understand exactly where you are coming from and exactly where I’m coming from.

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Originally posted by YourNeverThere
I guess that was hyberbole, trying to overstate for emphasis, you think people who smoke drugs are dumb...
Actually, your extravagant exaggeration of my original sentence, “I disagree. I think most people who smoke weed on a regular basis don't know who they are” is the real hyperbole. I stated just exactly what I thought. So, it is your insecurity that you believe people who smoke weed are dumb. Don’t put words in my mouth unjustly. I say just exactly what I want to say and I don’t need you trying to tell me what I mean. I’ve been away from mommy for quite some time now, thanks.


I said: I believe most people who smoke weed on a regular basis are hiding from reality
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Originally posted by YourNeverThere
For sure for some people it is an escape, it's been proven, as far as anything concerning pot as been proven, that it's not physically addictive. So, it's not that they NEED to smoke it, not physically anyway. So I guess you don't drink, or really do anything distracting at all, because escaping reality is something that we all do.
You guessed wrong. I drink on occasion. In fact, I sit here sipping my cordial while I write this. NEED…So, to need something, it must be a physical need for it to be obtrusive to ones life? Sure it’s been proven that pot isn’t physically addictive (I’ll take your word for it) but what about the psychological effects? These are the effects I worry about most. If one can’t figure out in ones own mind what’s good or not good for their body and soul and they need to be reminded solely on the physical addiction, I feel that’s a pretty damn addictive and destructive drug. Surely you must agree to that logic? Hey you know, Ecstasy isn’t physically addictive either. Think about that for a moment. We all escape from reality; yes it’s true. My point was simply that I truly believe, from personal experience, that those who choose to hit the bong every day (or there about) are hiding from reality. No less than the person who gets drunk on a regular basis is doing the same. It’s fucking stupid to me that people are so enthralled with thinking this is perfectly okay to the point of allowing their children to just know that their parents smoke weed let alone allowing them to partake. These are the people who have nothing good to contribute to society. Ultimately, I could give a shit how good of a show you put on at work and how few traffic tickets you’ve received. It’s your kids that count. They are who represent you when you’re gone. They are what the rest of the world is left to deal with. If you can’t raise your kids properly, you’re not worth a shit.



I said: . I do agree that there are a lot of financially successful pot smokers in this world. I do not believe that they are mentally stable.
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Originally posted by YourNeverThere
Ya there are tons of financially successful potheads, but mentally unstable? really? because they get high? You think that becuase they get stoned, they are mentally unstable...
Probably not mentally unstable in the way you think I mean it. I mean mentally unstable in that they, in my opinion, are fogged to reality. Take it for what you will.


I said: I think they are slaves to the drug and only interested in creating a flase sence of reality of the world once they get home from work. I do believe most pot smoking lifers don't have much to contribute to society.
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Originally posted by YourNeverThere
Man, you start off with some hyperbole, and I can only wish that this part was too, I mean, 'Slaves to the drug'? I've smoked pot for a long time, many of the people I know older and younger do, and I've never once met a 'slave' to it, ever. And you don't believe that we have anything to contribute to the society? do you like Jimmy Hendricks? Many many writters, now and in history, there are pot smokers in almost every niche that this world has to offer, I'm pritty sure they have lots to offer.
That’s too funny, I was thinking the same thing…I mean you started off with “hyperbole” and are ending with "hyperbole" as well. That’s funny shit if you ask me. But then you didn't ask me so I suppose it’s not that funny. Oh well, I make myself laugh.


Okay, so you know old ones and young ones, not one of which is a slave to the drug. WAKE UP, you can find a few in that crowd. I don’t have much to say to that except the pot’s gone to your head, man. I do believe that you (referring to your “we” comment) have things to offer to society…just look, you have Jimmy Hendrix on your side. That’s ”pritty” impressive...

All jokes aside, I’ll say it to you again. If you are a pot smoker and you think it’s perfectly fine to raise your children in a pot-smoking environment, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to society. This last paragraph pretty much sums up what I was trying to convey previously...nothing more, nothing less.

arcane 10-04-2003 01:59 AM

if she made a 6 foot gravity bong then she could have made the cover of high times
hahaha
:D

jeenyus 10-04-2003 02:30 PM

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I taught my daughter well


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