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K-Wise 09-28-2003 06:48 PM

So we've been putting out poison for this mouse we have...
 
And just now I walked into the kitchen and there it was lying on the floor.....dying. I mean I've seen em dead before but never dying right before my eyes. I crept down right beside it. I could see it having trouble breathing and opening it's mouth to gasp for air. It was the saddest thing it damn near broke my heart. Cause it's so little and cute and innocent looking. But it would get into our food and leave shit all over the place and I hear they carry diseases too but still regardless of all that I feel horrible about it :( It's like SHAAAAAAAAME! Now I feel like an asshole :( Poor fuckin mouse.....

Asta!!

K-Wise 09-28-2003 06:50 PM

This is pretty much what it looked like.

R.I.P.
http://www.embl-grenoble.fr/embl_at_...ages/mouse.gif

Asta!!

World's King 09-28-2003 06:52 PM

Used to have two mice.

Aurther Guinness
and Clyde


They died last month.

K-Wise 09-28-2003 06:56 PM

Did ya burry them? When my hermit crabs died I burried em in my yard. Pretty silly but.....I dunno.

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SecretMethod70 09-28-2003 07:13 PM

...I suddenly got a picture of stuart little lying on the floor, panting and trying to breathe...

how sad :(

AnUnkind 09-28-2003 07:49 PM

My cat caught a mouse once. He didn't kill it, but munched off its left rear leg and started toying with it. It would attempt to crawl away but good ol' Butch just dragged it back to where I was standing so I can accept his little present or whatever... I watched it for a little bit and decided to slam the broad end of a metal wedge onto its skull and threw the thing away. I felt slightly sad, but I am sure my cat felt worse... poor Butch couldn't understand why I didn't want a damn 3 legged mouse...

StormBerlin 09-28-2003 07:55 PM

That is soooo sad... I feel for you... It's one thing to kill it and not have to see it, it's another when you have to watch that poor animal suffer. But, what can ya do...

meepa 09-28-2003 08:25 PM

During the summer I leave my door open so my cats can run in and out at will. Well they're good hunters, and they're always catching mice/moles. I don't really mind what they do when they're outside, but as many of you cat-owners know, they like to bring back these trophies to show their master. Also, they love to "play" with the poor rodents for like an hour before they finally die, which is really painful to watch. So whenever I see them inside, I always end up chasing them around with a shovel, trying to scoop them up so I can chuck them back outside for a second chance. I wish my cats would just be evil outside :(

K-Wise 09-28-2003 09:10 PM

I been tellin ya'll cats are evil

Asta!!

*Nikki* 09-29-2003 05:09 AM

There are such things as humane mouse traps. This way you can still catch them then set them free somewhere FAR from your house.

eribrav 09-29-2003 05:35 AM

I would suggest using spring loaded traps. Just bait em and you should have results within a day or two. They break the rodent's neck, so it's quickly over.

Jim Kata 09-29-2003 06:23 AM

The humane mouse traps never worked for me. Never caught a single one. I had to get one of those glue traps, and man did i feel awful...I swear I could see the bubbles in the glue from the mouse trying to breathe.
Watching it actually die on the kitchen floor is 20 times worse. But....oh well, what can ya do?

jbrooks544 09-29-2003 06:45 AM

Lots of diseases from mice - nothing "cute" about them. VERMIN

One of their better ones is
Hantavirus - a deadly virus
Very similar to ebola, and it is found in N.American mice. Cuddly little Hantavirus carrier - how cute, cough cough...

Lymphocytic choriomeningitis (LCM). This is a virus spread by the common house mouse. The virus can infect the linings of the brain and spinal cord. It's a serious disease

I like the large sticky traps. They work very well, and No, I don't feel any pangs about killing them. That doesn't mean that I am heartless, because I'm not heartless. It means that I understand the infestation is unhealthful.

Cynthetiq 09-29-2003 06:46 AM

Anyone who comes to visit me at my office will see that I have a mouse trap sitting on my desk. It's the old spring loaded kind. It's very violent when it kills a mouse.

I have no remorse or compassion for these vermin, rats, mice, or pigeons (flying rats)

sipsake 09-29-2003 07:17 AM

I've always used glue traps. They work well and you can release the mice with a little vegetable oil and a wooden chopstick. True, covering a mouse in vegetable oil is pretty much like mouse stir-fry for the neighborhood cats, but it was better than killing the little buggers.

Lebell 09-29-2003 08:07 AM

I had similiar experience once.

We had an old house...lots of ways for mice into it and lots of places to hide. They used to come up our pipes leading to the washer/drier and then they had the run of our kitchen, usually climbing up to the pantry or living in our kitchen closet.

Anyway, I put spring traps just inside the folding doors with the washing machine where they were in the dark for the mouse but easy to get to.

Well, I was sitting there one day at the table when I heard it go off.

I went and opened the folding door expecting to find a dead mouse with his neck broken, but what I found was a live mouse being strangled to death.

I watched in horror as the mouse struggled, pushing in vain with his back foot to get free.

He struggled for about ten seconds more and then stopped moving.

As I thought about his/her last seconds of life, I actually cried for this mouse.

After that, I went to the store for those humane traps, but I only ever caught one mouse with it (which I released in the park). So with much trepidation, I went back to the proven spring traps and killed the remaining infestation.

As a side note, when my ex and I sold that house, we found the closet littered in the back with mouse feces, so I know I made the right decision in the end.

Miekle 09-29-2003 08:54 AM

I really have no remorse for the damned things. I had a family of them living above between the cealing in my room. They woke me up EVERY night it drove me to the point where I would punch the cealing trying to get them to just sit still.

On top of that the diseases they carry are enough to kill a human just by touching thier droppings in some countrys

Peryn 09-29-2003 09:58 AM

RatZapper owns me. Go to http://www.ratzapper.com/whatisa_rz.htm and check it out. You simply put food in the back, then Stuart Little walks in for a big shock. Not only does it work well, safe, no touching required and quite, its fun to think about too :D

I got one several years ago and its really nice. No mess, easy as can be, and will kill most anything that can fit in it. You dont hafta worry about getting mouse traps for rats accidentally, or the other way around.

OK, there webpage blows, but check out this basic animation for how it works : http://www.ratzapper.com/flash/ratzap/ratzap_3.html


Kind of expensive, but supercool. Their old site used to have pictures when they first released teh product. One guy killed a gophor so big it got stuck in there and he had to try and pry it out. It doesn't shock enough to kill people (or dogs i think) but it will let you know you touched it. Good for mice, rats, gophors, moles, small cats (:D) or other pests that will fit inside.

fallen_angel 09-29-2003 10:33 AM

I have a pet white rat named loki and she is so adorable, but my mom is making me give her away since im at college. *sniff*
just thought I would share that, sorry. . .

ok if you wanna catch a mouse and not poison it just get a regular wooden mouse trap and put peanut butter on it and then check it once every few days. it should be dead by then and you wont have to feel bad because the little mooch got what he deserved by being a greedy little mousy pig.

Jim Kata 09-29-2003 10:52 AM

You remember in those old Tom and Jerry cartoons when the maid would jump on the chair when she would see Jerry and yell? Well I'm a 27 male version of that. Pet mice are no problem, but those wild ones.... what Vile Little Creatures. Although I do still feel a bit bad seeing their dead bodies in my glue traps.

BonesCPA 09-29-2003 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by *Nikki*
There are such things as humane mouse traps. This way you can still catch them then set them free somewhere FAR from your house.
I use one type of them, but the mice are always dead in the morning - it is my understanding they scare themselves to death.
Quote:

Originally posted by eribrav
I would suggest using spring loaded traps. Just bait em and you should have results within a day or two. They break the rodent's neck, so it's quickly over.
I had mice that would snap the trap and not get caught. They were only about 10% effective. The other traps are about 75% effective. Glue traps never seemed to work at my place.

K-Wise 09-29-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Kata
You remember in those old Tom and Jerry cartoons when the maid would jump on the chair when she would see Jerry and yell? Well I'm a 27 male version of that. Pet mice are no problem, but those wild ones.... what Vile Little Creatures. Although I do still feel a bit bad seeing their dead bodies in my glue traps.
AHAHA What a pussy!! :lol: (j/k)

Asta!!

santafe5000 09-29-2003 05:27 PM

Snap Traps, best way to go. Quick kill, usually no blood. While mice do look cute, they are pests. Once you let a colony get established, they breed like crazy. Then you got real problems.

Macheath 09-29-2003 07:03 PM

Like Lebell, we had one that was found suffocating in a powerful snap rat trap. Didn't feel sorry for it, as it was a large and aggressive rat who had escaped quite a few times before. Trap was closed right down over its neck - don't know how it was surviving. Only way I could think to finish it off was drowning in a bucket. Didn't really struggle, so I suppose it was weak enough to die pretty quickly once it was underwater.

It's great that there's no cuteness factor for rats (aside from when they're pets) - just their long ropey tails, greasy fur, black eyes and yellow teeth.

K-Wise 09-29-2003 07:32 PM

Wasn't a rat....it was a mouse. Who's the dude in yer Avatar..looks familiar.

Asta!!

battlemouth 09-29-2003 07:44 PM

i have two pet rats, tre and trent and they are awesome. on another note, once we had a mouse trap in my basement and somehow the mouse got its back end stuck as opposed to its head.... weird

K-Wise 09-29-2003 08:03 PM

Thats because it attempted to eat the food from the opposite side.

Asta!!

Macheath 09-29-2003 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by K-Wise
Who's the dude in yer Avatar..looks familiar.
Tom Waits.

K-Wise 09-29-2003 08:18 PM

Good stuff thanx I'll check him out.

Asta!!

quadro2000 09-30-2003 07:52 AM

We had mice last December. We tried those old-school wooden mousetraps, and they did nothing. We tried the humane option also, and that didn't work. What finally worked were the plastic spring loaded traps, mentioned above, I think.

Our asshole landlord, who lived upstairs, came down and put glue traps in our apartment - after we told his wife we didn't want them because they tortured mice. We found a mouse trying to stay alive after being trapped on one of them. Quadrette read on the back of the packaging that vegetable oil would loosen the glue, so she tried pouring some of that on the trap...and then she accidentally drowned the mouse in oil. (now, this was of course, very sad, but I had to hold back my sick laughter because it was kinda funny too).

I HATE mice. hate, hate HATE them - but they don't deserve to suffer. Just kill 'em quick.

Conclamo Ludus 09-30-2003 08:00 AM

We've got a colony in our house right now and we've killed two a day using the old fashion spring traps. We've got them surrounded. Mice aren't bad. Bats on the other hand. They don't make bat traps. We had a hell of a time getting rid of them this summer. Flying rats!

raeanna74 09-30-2003 09:19 AM

At basement apartment we used to live in we had a number of critters get inside. The landlord who lived upstairs and done all dht remodeling and expansion on his home himself. Not very talented. none of the door jambs met the walls straight and the doors had gaps here and there. None of them were in the same place even. I did a few little modifications on the windows and outside entryway to keep the critters out.

First mouse I saw was early in the morning when I turned on the light in the kitchen before my eyes had really focused. When I saw him dash across my kitchen floor to my livingroom I yelled for hubby to come. He brought his BB gun and stood guard at the entrance to eh livingroom while I literally tore EVERYTHING apart in there. Turned the furnature upside down and moved everything. We never found it. I'm pretty certain it was hiding inside my sofa. The only possibility I can think of.

We used the metal traps. My father-in-law gave em to us. Apparently they'd been snapped a few times and had lost some of their spring. We had 2 mice around. Used cheese with peanut butter to make it stick and got their attention ASAP. First one foudn the trap minutes after we turned the light out in our bedroom. We heard the snap. I turned on the light. Hubby got his BB gun and put it out of is misery immediately. Same sort of story for the second one in hubby's office.

I did feel bad destroying them but it was the safest way of removing them from my home and protecting my baby. You know a mother and her baby.

My policy and what I teach my daughter with any critter is - if you come in my home you are just asking for my wrath, if you stay out of my home I will watch you and appreciate you and leave you alone. That is unless I want to eat you but that's another issue. I'm not about to eat mice or rats unless I'm starving.

We had a Wolf spider come in once. Hubby is so paranoid about spiders he freaked and grabbed our daughter. I stomped it and took the squashed critter to a friend of our who is one of those "bug -ologist" things. He told us what it was. Glad I didn't mess around with him.

soopadoopa 09-30-2003 02:17 PM

A tip for bait: use cotton or string, lint, anything you think a mouse would use for a nest. Sometimes that may be less plentiful than food.

little limey 09-30-2003 03:12 PM

This is such a fucking depressing thread that I could only read five posts.

K-Wise 09-30-2003 06:06 PM

A wolf spider I don't mind. They look scary as hell but they do more good than harm. Ya dunno how many fuckin bugs those things kill. Including the fucking ticks that are eating my dogs alive. When I see them I usually leave em be....unless they're huge then I just simply catch them and throw them back outside. A teacher once told me it's not the big spiders you gotta worry about....it's the littler ones. Like the Black Widow and the Brown Recluse. Those I'll smash without thinking. My mom usually tries to have me kill any insect she finds in the house. She also asks me what kinda bugs they are cause she thinks I'm some kinda genius on the subject (which I'm not..I know a few) kinda funny.

Asta!!

K-Wise 09-30-2003 06:22 PM

Ah finally a safe, fun, and harmless way to rid the world of Rodents! Meet

<a href="http://www.maidmarian.com/ratinator.htm">The Ratinator!</a>

Asta!!

bernadette 09-30-2003 09:19 PM

aww K-wise, i understand your dilemna.
domestic rodents i love & have had many for pets. they look just the same as the wild rogue guys. CUTE. sadly, the wild boys do harm to our homes... & thus we must exterminate them.

this summer we tore down an old hottub shed/deck & a couple rats went scurrying off. a day or 2 later one of my dogs caught one. it was writhering beneath the hot summer sun, but not dead. my husband was out of town, so i beckoned my next door neighbor to do the unseemly deed. one swift blow with the spade & that little rat's misery was history.

once before i caught a mouse with a bucket. we drove him out to a country road & set him free there.

but the rat... well he was gonna die by my dog's bite. and otherwise he would've eventually died by poison & hopefully i wouldn't have ever seen his demise.


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