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fuelmyfire · 04-27-2003, 08:08 PM

Does such a thing actually exist in public? Are they actually obtainable?

If given the chance, would you ever want to own one?

KillerYoda · 04-27-2003, 08:12 PM

They have to exist, since all those Nazi officials used them to get out of imprisonment back in the day.

I wish I had one when I was forced to see Moulin Rouge at the theater.

GuttersnipeXL · 04-27-2003, 08:17 PM

I'm sure some CIA operative somewhere has 'em...I don't and, hopefully wouldn't have any use for such a thing. I think that's where the term "bite the bullet came from"...chomping down on a cyanide capsule= go bye bye...I could be wrong though.

Lebell · 04-27-2003, 08:17 PM

All a cyanide capsule is is pressed potasium or sodium cyanide. It hits your stomach, the ions dissassociate and the CN- ion group combines with the hydrogen from the hydrochloric acid in your stomach. This is absorbed by your stomach lining into your blood stream where it combines strongly with you hemoglobin, stronger than oxygen can combine. You die of cyanosis.

Why you would want to know this is beyond me. There are much less painful ways of offing yourself and I hope you would seek help before trying them.

clavus · 04-27-2003, 10:03 PM

Lebell nailed it.

There are far more enjoyable ways to kill yourself. Why suffer?

Phaenx · 04-27-2003, 10:11 PM

You know what sounds like a painful way to die? Getting pushed out into space.

phredgreen · 04-27-2003, 11:16 PM

so you're telling me i can't just run down to wal-mart and pick up a bottle? bummer.

sheesh.

BBtB · 04-28-2003, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by GuttersnipeXL
I'm sure some CIA operative somewhere has 'em...I don't and, hopefully wouldn't have any use for such a thing. I think that's where the term "bite the bullet came from"...chomping down on a cyanide capsule= go bye bye...I could be wrong though.

Off topic but I just wanted to add that that is not wear bite the bullet came from. I heard it is from civil war areas were battlefield doctors would give their patients a lead ball to bit during surgery (this was pre anthestics) ... which is probably wrong as well but I do know the term predates these.

Dragonlich · 04-28-2003, 01:51 AM

More off-topic.
Well... back in the olde civil war days, one had pre-packed "rounds" of ammo: piece of paper or something, wrapped around the lead bullet and a bit of powder. One had to bite the bullet (tear open the paper) to put the powder into the musket. Then one would put in the actual bullet (ball). After some further work (ramming it in, perhaps stuff a bit of paper in too, to keep the bullet from falling out), one could fire.

...but I could be wrong.

riskybiz · 04-28-2003, 01:51 AM

Lebell, you've got me just a tiny bit concerned about you. You seems to know an awful lot about this stuff. Have you ever worked in the Texas State Penetentiary System?

Sounds like an ugly way even for a spook to off himself. I'd think an Extasy OD would be more fun.

forgotten_dream · 04-28-2003, 03:02 AM

BBtB and Dragonlich, I've actually heard both of those.

And I can't think of any easy ways to kill ones self. Obviously if you had a gun, you could try to shoot your way out.

fuelmyfire · 04-28-2003, 07:29 AM

I think people are missing the point i was getting at.
I wanted to know if you would actually want to own one, not use it immediately.
Basically, a small, portable means to quickly end your life, if you were ever in a terrible situation or would rather die from the capsule than endure something like a rapid spread of a new disease or if you were trapped in a burning room and would rather not suffer the pain of being burnt alive...you know?

Troublebot · 04-28-2003, 07:39 AM

I don't know. If I have to spend anymore time with the guy who handles our company 401K plan, I might need one of those.

Ok, seriously, I would hope that I would always have hope. Even stuck in a burning room, I think I'd be looking for a way out up till the moment of death.

SaltPork · 04-28-2003, 07:40 AM

well, if the choice were to burn to death or jum 95 stories to my death as in the WTC attack, I would definitely choose the cyanide.

Lebell · 04-28-2003, 08:33 AM

Dragonlich is correct about the origin of the term "bite the bullet".

And no, I've never worked in the Texal Penitentery System, nor have a been in a Turkish prison

I was however in analytical chemistry for a few years plus I like gathering bits of essoteric knowledge and how cynanide poisoning worked was something I looked up one day.

scope · 04-28-2003, 12:57 PM

Why on earth would you want to commit suicide? Such a wimpy way to leave.

mongo · 04-28-2003, 01:41 PM

Yes they exist....they are a quick way to stop yourself from being used for information...Yes it's painfull but effective...It can be concealed where as if you are put in to a position a handgun or such might not be available.If someone is caught doing something in another country where they are not supposed to be they could cause a major problem by their knowledge and just their presence.If they are dead they can not be tortured for information or used to blackmail or damage the country of their origin.Black ops are a dangerous game...The people that play them know the risks they take.Most of them live off the rush..Strange group of people if you ask me..The information they obtain can be invaluable though.

Go_AVS · 04-28-2003, 01:57 PM

I would never want to own one for me. Nothing could be that bad that you would have to off yourself...

WhoaitsZ · 04-28-2003, 03:38 PM

nothing could ever be so bad? perhaps, but perhaps _not_

if there were a little pill that would put you to sleep, then die, i would have it on me.

I have been suicidal in my life, but not now at all. but anyhow, fact is, what if something fuckin _odd_ happened? like.. you're walking down the road, are attacked by aliens who paralyze you except for one arm (for the pill) and transfers you one mile away and forces you to watch gerlado and rosi o'donald all day and night for thirty years?

wouldn't you wanna end it!??!

yabobo · 04-28-2003, 04:50 PM

This is old really old

Sweet Jane.....Lou Reed ,if ya had too.

Bless all of you to happiness.

Slims · 04-28-2003, 11:00 PM

No, I wouldn't want one. Because I think I would be far more likely to get drunk and eat the thing than end up in a situation that I felt was so horrible I would want to commit suicide (painfully).

If it ever came to that there are many other, more efficient ways to off yourself.

Minus000 · 04-28-2003, 11:11 PM

I wouldn't. Death, is a part of life. Something that I hope to experince to its fullest when the time comes. I hope to live a long and full life but death is something unique, the moment when perhaps we accept what is happening around us and learn the truth about what man has pondered for thousands of years.

World's King · 04-29-2003, 12:15 AM

They exsits.

*bites down... dies*

04-27-2003, 08:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
fuelmyfire Insane	Cyanide Capsule Does such a thing actually exist in public? Are they actually obtainable? If given the chance, would you ever want to own one?

04-27-2003, 08:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
KillerYoda The Original Emo Gangsta Location: Sixth Floor, Texas School Book Depository	They have to exist, since all those Nazi officials used them to get out of imprisonment back in the day. I wish I had one when I was forced to see Moulin Rouge at the theater. __________________ "So you're Chekov, huh? Well, this here's McCoy. Find a Spock, we got us an away team."

04-27-2003, 08:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
GuttersnipeXL Giggity Giggity!! Location: N'York	I'm sure some CIA operative somewhere has 'em...I don't and, hopefully wouldn't have any use for such a thing. I think that's where the term "bite the bullet came from"...chomping down on a cyanide capsule= go bye bye...I could be wrong though. __________________ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. HST

04-27-2003, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	All a cyanide capsule is is pressed potasium or sodium cyanide. It hits your stomach, the ions dissassociate and the CN- ion group combines with the hydrogen from the hydrochloric acid in your stomach. This is absorbed by your stomach lining into your blood stream where it combines strongly with you hemoglobin, stronger than oxygen can combine. You die of cyanosis. Why you would want to know this is beyond me. There are much less painful ways of offing yourself and I hope you would seek help before trying them. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

04-27-2003, 10:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	Lebell nailed it. There are far more enjoyable ways to kill yourself. Why suffer? __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

04-27-2003, 10:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	You know what sounds like a painful way to die? Getting pushed out into space. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

04-27-2003, 11:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
phredgreen who? Location: the phoenix metro	so you're telling me i can't just run down to wal-mart and pick up a bottle? bummer. sheesh. __________________ My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine

04-28-2003, 01:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dragonlich 42, baby! Location: The Netherlands	More off-topic. Well... back in the olde civil war days, one had pre-packed "rounds" of ammo: piece of paper or something, wrapped around the lead bullet and a bit of powder. One had to bite the bullet (tear open the paper) to put the powder into the musket. Then one would put in the actual bullet (ball). After some further work (ramming it in, perhaps stuff a bit of paper in too, to keep the bullet from falling out), one could fire. ...but I could be wrong.

04-28-2003, 01:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
riskybiz Psycho Location: The Granite State "Live Free or Die"	Lebell, you've got me just a tiny bit concerned about you. You seems to know an awful lot about this stuff. Have you ever worked in the Texas State Penetentiary System? Sounds like an ugly way even for a spook to off himself. I'd think an Extasy OD would be more fun. __________________ "I'd like to meet the person who invented sex and see what they're working on now." -Groucho Marx

04-28-2003, 03:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
forgotten_dream Psycho	BBtB and Dragonlich, I've actually heard both of those. And I can't think of any easy ways to kill ones self. Obviously if you had a gun, you could try to shoot your way out. __________________ "A ouija board just works better if you've made it yourself. It's sortof like how 'Clue' is more interesting when one of you has actually killed someone."

04-28-2003, 07:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
fuelmyfire Insane	I think people are missing the point i was getting at. I wanted to know if you would actually want to own one, not use it immediately. Basically, a small, portable means to quickly end your life, if you were ever in a terrible situation or would rather die from the capsule than endure something like a rapid spread of a new disease or if you were trapped in a burning room and would rather not suffer the pain of being burnt alive...you know?

04-28-2003, 07:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
Troublebot Intently Rocking Location: Davey's	I don't know. If I have to spend anymore time with the guy who handles our company 401K plan, I might need one of those. Ok, seriously, I would hope that I would always have hope. Even stuck in a burning room, I think I'd be looking for a way out up till the moment of death. __________________ Howard Moon: The wind is my only friend. Wind: [whistling] I hate you.

04-28-2003, 07:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
SaltPork Everything's better with bacon Location: In your local grocer's freezer.	well, if the choice were to burn to death or jum 95 stories to my death as in the WTC attack, I would definitely choose the cyanide. __________________ It was like that when I got here....I swear.

04-28-2003, 08:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Dragonlich is correct about the origin of the term "bite the bullet". And no, I've never worked in the Texal Penitentery System, nor have a been in a Turkish prison I was however in analytical chemistry for a few years plus I like gathering bits of essoteric knowledge and how cynanide poisoning worked was something I looked up one day. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

04-28-2003, 12:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
scope Banned Location: Canada	Why on earth would you want to commit suicide? Such a wimpy way to leave.

04-29-2003, 12:15 AM	#23 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	They exsits. bites down... dies __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

04-28-2003, 01:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
mongo Crazy Location: Florida	Yes they exist....they are a quick way to stop yourself from being used for information...Yes it's painfull but effective...It can be concealed where as if you are put in to a position a handgun or such might not be available.If someone is caught doing something in another country where they are not supposed to be they could cause a major problem by their knowledge and just their presence.If they are dead they can not be tortured for information or used to blackmail or damage the country of their origin.Black ops are a dangerous game...The people that play them know the risks they take.Most of them live off the rush..Strange group of people if you ask me..The information they obtain can be invaluable though. __________________ Mongo like candy

04-28-2003, 01:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	I would never want to own one for me. Nothing could be that bad that you would have to off yourself... __________________ MIA...

04-28-2003, 03:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	nothing could ever be so bad? perhaps, but perhaps _not_ if there were a little pill that would put you to sleep, then die, i would have it on me. I have been suicidal in my life, but not now at all. but anyhow, fact is, what if something fuckin _odd_ happened? like.. you're walking down the road, are attacked by aliens who paralyze you except for one arm (for the pill) and transfers you one mile away and forces you to watch gerlado and rosi o'donald all day and night for thirty years? wouldn't you wanna end it!??!

04-28-2003, 04:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
yabobo Lust Puppy Location: in your closet and in your head...	This is old really old Sweet Jane.....Lou Reed ,if ya had too. Bless all of you to happiness. __________________ Why do they sterilize the needle for lethal injections? Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.

04-28-2003, 11:00 PM	#21 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	No, I wouldn't want one. Because I think I would be far more likely to get drunk and eat the thing than end up in a situation that I felt was so horrible I would want to commit suicide (painfully). If it ever came to that there are many other, more efficient ways to off yourself. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

04-28-2003, 11:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
Minus000 Banned	I wouldn't. Death, is a part of life. Something that I hope to experince to its fullest when the time comes. I hope to live a long and full life but death is something unique, the moment when perhaps we accept what is happening around us and learn the truth about what man has pondered for thousands of years.