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mrcraptastic · 09-11-2003, 02:39 PM

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i was just curious as to what people think of adrian lamo being charged, and whether anyone thinks he'll be convicted or not. from what i saw when he was interviewed on the screensavers, he knows what he did was wrong, and knew there would be consequences, but hacked sites anyways. he didn't cause any damage, and there's a lot of large corporations that recognized the security holes he found and owe him for fixing him. it would be nice to see some of these corporations take the stand on lamo's side and fight this. i think it's pretty pathetic of the new york times to press charges. while he was in the wrong and, did do something illegal, he could have done so much damage to them, but instead informed them of their security holes.

Cynthetiq · 09-11-2003, 02:53 PM

you are not allowed to walk into someone's how because the doorlock is broken, and inform them that it's broken. it's still against the law....would you not be pissed off to find out someone walked into your bedroom? your house? but they were doing you a service of telling you your front door lock was insecure.

same thing.

mrcraptastic · 09-11-2003, 03:03 PM

i agree with that, but there's still a difference. if someone walked into my house,without breaking/stealing anything, or going around telling everyone they knew about my faulty lock and/or the contents of my house, sure i might be angry that they were there. however, i wouldn't ever press charges against them, knowing full well that they didn't do any damage and possibly prevented someone with worse intents from coming in and ransacking my home. in an interview, he said that other corperations weren't pleased that he was in their systems, but they were still grateful for the information on their holes. only one out of possibly 10-20 companies actually pressed charges.

Fallon · 09-11-2003, 05:37 PM

I believe what he did was wrong, but I would never charge him for it. I think what he should have probably done was inform them that he's a computer security person, and that for free, he'd be willing to test their system.
But then again, you'd lose the unexpected nature of it.

Fallen · 09-11-2003, 07:17 PM

I don't think they should charge him. He didn't have to tell them, and he could have wrecked their system had he been a criminal.

WhoaitsZ · 09-11-2003, 08:21 PM

it's like this, IMHO. a guy breaks in with the sole purpose of showing you that you are wide open and thousands of SS numbers are available to hackers who will try to steal them and cause damage should be praised.

Arrest him? Bullshit. They should get in trouble for having SS#s and shitty security.

The guy broke the law – to help people out. To all who charge him, fuck you guys (NYT) because he did a possibly valuable thing for NYT’s subscribers.

Do something right and yer fucked.

09-11-2003, 02:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
mrcraptastic Tilted	adrian lamo? www.freelamo.com i was just curious as to what people think of adrian lamo being charged, and whether anyone thinks he'll be convicted or not. from what i saw when he was interviewed on the screensavers, he knows what he did was wrong, and knew there would be consequences, but hacked sites anyways. he didn't cause any damage, and there's a lot of large corporations that recognized the security holes he found and owe him for fixing him. it would be nice to see some of these corporations take the stand on lamo's side and fight this. i think it's pretty pathetic of the new york times to press charges. while he was in the wrong and, did do something illegal, he could have done so much damage to them, but instead informed them of their security holes.

09-11-2003, 02:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	you are not allowed to walk into someone's how because the doorlock is broken, and inform them that it's broken. it's still against the law....would you not be pissed off to find out someone walked into your bedroom? your house? but they were doing you a service of telling you your front door lock was insecure. same thing. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

09-11-2003, 07:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fallen Crazy Location: Adrift In Madness	I don't think they should charge him. He didn't have to tell them, and he could have wrecked their system had he been a criminal. __________________ Overdosed on Apathy

09-11-2003, 03:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
mrcraptastic Tilted	i agree with that, but there's still a difference. if someone walked into my house,without breaking/stealing anything, or going around telling everyone they knew about my faulty lock and/or the contents of my house, sure i might be angry that they were there. however, i wouldn't ever press charges against them, knowing full well that they didn't do any damage and possibly prevented someone with worse intents from coming in and ransacking my home. in an interview, he said that other corperations weren't pleased that he was in their systems, but they were still grateful for the information on their holes. only one out of possibly 10-20 companies actually pressed charges.

09-11-2003, 05:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fallon Junkie Location: RI	I believe what he did was wrong, but I would never charge him for it. I think what he should have probably done was inform them that he's a computer security person, and that for free, he'd be willing to test their system. But then again, you'd lose the unexpected nature of it.

09-11-2003, 08:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	it's like this, IMHO. a guy breaks in with the sole purpose of showing you that you are wide open and thousands of SS numbers are available to hackers who will try to steal them and cause damage should be praised. Arrest him? Bullshit. They should get in trouble for having SS#s and shitty security. The guy broke the law – to help people out. To all who charge him, fuck you guys (NYT) because he did a possibly valuable thing for NYT’s subscribers. Do something right and yer fucked.