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marcopolo 04-24-2003 03:31 PM

Can a woman rape a man?
 
I got into this convo today with a co-worker. Needless to say, we still haven't come up with a decent answer. So, is it possible for a woman to rape a man? I personally have yet to hear a man object to sex ,but then again, there maybe an exception to this rule . Possibly with an, *ahem* foreign object ... what do you think ?

degrawj 04-24-2003 03:32 PM

of course it's possible. it's just not common for a man to admit to being raped by a woman.

Macheath 04-24-2003 03:39 PM

Yes I think it would be possible, but I suppose the feeling of violation might be more based on being psychologically manipulated than simple brute force. This, as degrawj said, would also make the man less likely to talk about it.

Lebell 04-24-2003 03:39 PM

Very possible, just not as common.

For example, when you get an erection in your sleep it is generally just a physical reaction and not to erotica. Fear can occassionally cause the same reaction. Not commonly, but it can.

Also, rape can mean sodomy as well as unwanted physical contact.

snowy 04-24-2003 03:43 PM

It totally depends on the definition of rape being used--and there are lots of different definitions. It's easier to see how a woman can rape a man if one defines rape as saying no to sexual contact but sexual contact happening anyways, despite the no. Women (being one myself) can be very psychologically manipulative--but then again, so can men. Hopefully, though, in that kind of situation, the man has the power to walk away.

yournamehere 04-24-2003 03:46 PM

Rape can mean "without knowledge" as well as "without consent". Also, I imagine it's possible for a man to be rendered incabable of giving consent (sleeping, drugs, alcohol), but still be "up" to the task.

I had a friend who passed out at a party once - he woke up to a really ugly girl blowing him. I suppose by definition he was being raped. I know for a fact he puked.

vermin 04-24-2003 03:49 PM

Have you never seen a hideous woman? A cock-ring could be used to force an erection. A handgun to discourage resistance. It'd have to be woman-on-top you'd think.

onodrim 04-24-2003 03:50 PM

Its more rare I'm sure, bur definently possible.

Somenosuke 04-24-2003 03:54 PM

Yes, it's possible.

Rodao 04-24-2003 04:02 PM

Definitely possible, although this doesn't happen anywhere near as often as male/female rape. Haven't you guys ever seent he movie Thursday ? Or was it Tuesday ? I don't remember.

Grondar 04-24-2003 04:05 PM

I used to wonder this.

It is certainly possible, but it rarely happens from what I have heard/read.

Zello 04-24-2003 04:14 PM

Good luck trying to file a complaint on that.

I've never actually heard of it happening but I would guess it has happened.

uncle phil 04-24-2003 04:20 PM

what lebell said, as well as age differences in most states (new hampshire and oregon come to mind recently...)

Peetster 04-24-2003 04:27 PM

Clearly possible, but most guys would not think of it in those terms.

BigJayz 04-24-2003 04:29 PM

Definately!!! And I don't think I'd mind being raped by the right woman!!!

Sun Tzu 04-24-2003 04:37 PM

I know Im perverted, but the thought a woman raping me is a turn on. (provided there's no strap on or similiar direction being considered--then its turning into a bad scenerio)

Daval 04-24-2003 04:42 PM

I think it would be possible, but the shame factor especially for men would cause most to be unreported

The_Dude 04-24-2003 05:34 PM

why not?

BoCo 04-24-2003 05:35 PM

If I wanted it, then I'd be hard, and it wouldn't be rape. If I didn't want it, then I wouldn't be hard, and she couldn't fuck me.

So, no, I don't think it's really possible.

ARTelevision 04-24-2003 05:38 PM

no difference between genders in my book - so it's a no brainer.

Binder 04-24-2003 05:39 PM

i think not only is it possible, but it is a reality. it just happens much less frequently than men raping women.

Ghost Bladder 04-24-2003 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BoCo
If I wanted it, then I'd be hard, and it wouldn't be rape. If I didn't want it, then I wouldn't be hard, and she couldn't fuck me.

So, no, I don't think it's really possible.

BoCo what if she used a strap on? ;)

Lebell 04-24-2003 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sun Tzu
I know Im perverted, but the thought a woman raping me is a turn on. (provided there's no strap on or similiar direction being considered--then its turning into a bad scenerio)
Just curious,

Is it the fantasy that turns you on or the reality?

I can't imagine enjoying sex with anyone if there was a 9mm in my mouth or the point of a knife was at my throat drawing blood.

Somenosuke 04-24-2003 05:51 PM

There are going to be times in people's lives where they are going to respond to stimulation whether it's wanted or not. If a woman gets wet while being groped rudely, that doesn't mean she likes it. The body is going to respond to the stimulation whether the person feels it should or not. This is not to say that a person's desire not to become physically aroused could not override the body's natural response, but in some cases, that just isn't possible.

Ghost Bladder 04-24-2003 06:00 PM

Hasn't anyone heard the statistic of straight men being raped by other men, which often results in the victim getting hard? Your porksword has a mind of it's own.

jets 04-24-2003 06:45 PM

Yes. Some bitches are huge.

Johnny Rotten 04-24-2003 06:48 PM

Well, I imagine it's not too farfetched once a strap-on gets involved.

SecretMethod70 04-24-2003 07:15 PM

Definitely possible. I'm pretty sure it's not as common as the other way around - the genetic wiring just isn't there in females to create the same frequency. But it's definitely possible and does happen.

Spungfoo 04-24-2003 07:19 PM

Yes, it does happen... I know someone who's girlfriend would fuck him (violently)while he was asleep.

juanvaldes 04-24-2003 07:35 PM

Yes.

But were all horney bastards so it's not very common :D

oane 04-24-2003 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yournamehere
I suppose by definition he was being raped. I know for a fact he puked.
I sincerely hope he puked on the bitch's face :mad:

And oh yes, watch Thursday. It's a funny movie, enjoyable too. Then Paulina Porizkova rapes our hero........:(

duckduck 04-24-2003 08:21 PM

Definitely. This was *kinda* touched on in Crichton's book that became a movie with Demi Moore and Michael Douglas (I forget the name).

Cynthetiq 04-24-2003 10:55 PM

hmm.... remember Mr. Wallace from Pulp Fiction... oh that's right we're not supposed to talk about that scene with the gimp.

Oilman 04-24-2003 11:08 PM

I think if a man is raped, he is still fairly happy, he still "got laid" even if it was forced upon him... On a serious note, I never heard of a woman raping a man (or even a man raping a man). I think guys are to macho to admit it anyways

mpedrummer2 04-24-2003 11:13 PM

Micheal Crichton wrote a book about this...Disclosure, I think...might be a movie too...I forget.

Dragonlich 04-24-2003 11:34 PM

As usual, the fantasy isn't quite as nice as reality.

Fantasy: gorgeous woman (women?) tie you to your bed, force you to have hot monkey love with them, you both enjoy it.

Reality: hideous, fat, scary-looking thing (once a woman) ties you up, kicks your arse, insults you for being a wimp, forces you to have an erection (not that hard with the proper physiological stimulus), and rides you. She then leaves before you even come. You cry like a baby and feel utterly violated and dirty. (And this doesn't even include a strap-on...)

Remember, kids... rape isn't about sex, it's about *power*.

Nad Adam 04-25-2003 12:14 AM

It's possible, it just takes a lot of determination.

Spidey 04-25-2003 03:24 AM

In New Zealand there is this fucked up law.
Women can legally have sex with people under 16 without concent, while males can't have sex with females under the age of 16 WITH concent.

got sexiest :\

rsl12 04-25-2003 04:37 AM

an illustrative example would be helpful. has there been ANY reported cases of women raping men in the US?

BoCo 04-25-2003 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost Bladder
BoCo what if she used a strap on? ;)
:eek::eek::eek: Stay away from my ass, woman!!!

sixate 04-25-2003 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BoCo
:eek::eek::eek: Stay away from my ass, woman!!!
You wimp!!

A woman could actually hold you down!? :p :D

troit 04-25-2003 05:04 AM

To poise another question: Has a woman ever been convicted of this rape?

MikeyChalupa 04-25-2003 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by duckduck
Definitely. This was *kinda* touched on in Crichton's book that became a movie with Demi Moore and Michael Douglas (I forget the name).
I was going to mention this. Althoug the story deals more with the fallout from Demi Moore's character turning around and calling the incident sexual harassment and rape because it didn't go the way SHE wanted it to, the actual incident could, should, and nowadays would be considered her "raping" him. He specifically said no several times, and had to physically fight her off. Granted, then he got so turned on that he almost consensually had sex with her, but came to his senses at the last minute and got out of there.

It's a damn good thing there was a witness nearby and the answering machine was running, or whatever. Most men wouldn't get so lucky and would lose that job or worse.

IMHO, if BOTH partners are not 100% willing participants, it's rape. If actual or threatened physical or psychological coercion is used by either party, it can be considered rape. In the military, under the UCMJ, penetration must occur in some form, which might make it trickier to prosecute a female-on-male rape, but most military guys probably wouldn't report something like that anyway.

-Mikey

Dragonlich 04-25-2003 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
You wimp!!

A woman could actually hold you down!? :p :D

We're not talking about a woman here... we're talking about "Big Bertha", the 400-pound all muscle monster.

By the way; anyone seen the movie "40 Days and 40 Nights"? At the end, the guy is taken by his ex-girlfriend... *that* was definitely a rape. Even worse, *he* gets blamed for it, and has to say sorry to his sweetheart. I wonder what moron wrote that story...

Troublebot 04-25-2003 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonlich
Remember, kids... rape isn't about sex, it's about *power*.
Right. This is what I was thinking about while going through the other posts. Rape takes sex out of the picture. A rapist may say they're doing it for sex, but it's about power. I have power over you, and I'm going to make you do something you don't want to.

Could a woman rape a man? By the terms above, yes. It has little to do with your dick. If a woman is trying to exert power over a man in this fashion, she can just as easily incapacitate him in some way and sodimize him, never touching his dick. That's rape.

Ambition 04-25-2003 11:34 AM

Definitely could happen, as mentioned in others replies.

-Strap-on
-Power trip
-Sodomy
-Molestation

All forms of rape.
There was a movie, can't remember the name in which a man was tied to a bed. (Married man) and aroused by a woman with some STD, which he was unaware of at the time. Then she engaged in intercourse with him. Perfect example of rape by a woman.

World's King 04-25-2003 11:49 AM

God I hope so.

Fallon 04-25-2003 12:52 PM

I believe it can happen. Heck, watch 40 days and 40 nights. Hidious example, I know, but the guy wasn't totally there, and he didn't want to sleep with the girl, and she screws him.

laughter 04-25-2003 12:54 PM

The assumption that rape = physically forced sex is erroneous.

Rape can include the victim being asleep, drunk, non-physically coerced, etc. It's a nice broad vague definition. But the courts support it. If a girl claims to have been raped, and can provide proof of sexual intercourse, then it's almost by definition rape.

That being said, then the corrollary must be true.

However, since the wonderful two-way street of gender works the way it does, few males will admit (to themselves or others) that they were raped. Therfore, they weren't.

viejo gringo 04-25-2003 02:08 PM

There's still hope---

butthead 04-25-2003 07:09 PM

Quote:

If I wanted it, then I'd be hard, and it wouldn't be rape. If I didn't want it, then I wouldn't be hard, and she couldn't fuck me.
Then lets give you a little oral, a little alcohol, and shove a broom stick up your ass when you're passed out and post the pics in Off The Wayside. If your dick is hard I will know you wanted it because otherwise doing what I did would be wrong, right?

oldtimer 04-25-2003 08:50 PM

Man in my days I have never heard of weirder shit. Women raping men... Many of you seem to take it upon yourself and say Yes....subconsciously, psychologically and that other bullcrap, give it a rest. Sex(intercourse) is what it is. If I don't hear my woman complain or begging me to stop then that is not rape, if I don't ask my woman to stop fucking me (why would I?) then that is not rape. Maybe this applies to unmatured little boys who I am sure find themselves in awkward positions with women but when there is a full grown man and whether or not he aware or unaware it is not rape. If the man awoke to the fucking Miss April of the Playboy calendar I guarantee you he will not complain but if he awoke to a fat/too skinny, old/hairy butt-ugly woman (it's all according to preference, men are picky yes) he would feel violated and call that rape. My point was made somewhere in there make what you want out of it.

raiden1 04-25-2003 09:57 PM

After a night of heavy drinking between me, my girlfriend at the time and a close friend of hers, I awoke to my girls close friend giving me a bj then I passed back out, then I woke to her on top of me but I couldn’t move and passed out again. The next morning I woke up without my pants on, I remembered bits and pieces but never said anything until a year later when another buddy said this girl did the same thing to him.

w3r7y 04-25-2003 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by butthead
Then lets give you a little oral, a little alcohol, and shove a broom stick up your ass when you're passed out and post the pics in Off The Wayside. If your dick is hard I will know you wanted it because otherwise doing what I did would be wrong, right?
sounds kinky

PHYcos 04-25-2003 10:55 PM

Raping of a man can ONLY be done if YOUR DICK IS STIFF!

oane 04-26-2003 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonlich
I wonder what moron wrote that story...
Must be some "liberated" feminazi...

Dragonlich 04-26-2003 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PHYcos
Raping of a man can ONLY be done if YOUR DICK IS STIFF!
yeah, sure...

- scenario 1: man is raped with a strap-on
- scenario 2: man is forced into oral sex
- scenario 3: man's dick is not stiff, but the woman bangs him anyway (it's about *power*, remember?)

I could come up with many more...

billege 04-26-2003 05:25 AM

Of course it's possible.

Can a man be touched sexually when he doesn't want to be?

I must say anyone debating the other side of this is not very well informed, or denying simple facts.

morlock 05-31-2003 12:03 AM

IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE!!!!
I was raped by my girlfriend, or I guess you could call it that, while I was sleeping, she got on top of me and started having sex with me, but I was asleep, she woke me up after a couple minutes she said, and it was a very good surprise, but I guess you could call all that while I was sleep, rape.

GoldenOuroboros 05-31-2003 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SecretMethod70
Definitely possible. I'm pretty sure it's not as common as the other way around - the genetic wiring just isn't there in females to create the same frequency. But it's definitely possible and does happen.
I'll agree with SecretMethod here..

Jack Ruby 05-31-2003 05:04 AM

I certainly hope so.

cdwonderful 05-31-2003 08:38 AM

It is possible, but not as likley

Slims 05-31-2003 08:41 AM

If it is rape for me to not stop having sex with a girl when she clearly tells me too...regardless of whether or not she is aroused, then it is rape for a woman to not stop having sex with a man, even though he clearly tells her to stop.

The guy can be aroused, and still not want to sleep with someone (I.e. a married man being seduced by a supermodel).

Silence 05-31-2003 09:13 AM

Yes!...It is possible...I am living proof,...and I will not press charges!...For the female rapists in hiding,..don't not fear of your guilt.Come on back and get some more.:cool:

oneofmanymen 05-31-2003 12:18 PM

Saying that a man cannot be raped is like saying a wife cannot be raped by her husband. Both happen but no body want to give the victim crediblity. Well if he can get it up he wanted it. Well hey there are stimulations a person can perform on a man to get him hard even if he isnt into it. And if you read any books on sexuality, you will learn very fast that a man has no control over his dick getting hard, its all a simulation type of reaction weather it be visual or pyshical (sp). Just that its not really reported...Besides how do you think a mn would be treated if he really did come forward to something like this? He would be a laughing stock.

oomm

NetterButter 05-31-2003 03:19 PM

rape as in the girl using his cock, against his own will? i don't think that can happen. if he doesn't enjoy it, it won't get hard, and then she's "screwed." BUT, if you're talking up the bunghole, yes, thats possible.

madsenj37 05-31-2003 11:18 PM

Its possible but not too plausible. However rare, it does happen. Guys can be pressured, too.

MacGnG 05-31-2003 11:48 PM

roofies and viagra...

merkdr 06-01-2003 12:09 AM

can`t rape the willing

THE MAC GOD 06-01-2003 02:55 AM

yeah... erections are completely random... most cases of a person being hung reported that they were visibly aroused (maybe only physically) and many actually ejaculated after the hanging... So, a man can probably react the same was with fear to a woman...

FuddMan 06-01-2003 06:32 AM

Its entirely possible, but, like many others have already said, will probably go unreported for obvious reasons.

Frowning Budah 06-01-2003 07:58 AM

If we use the same rules that the courts have been applying to rape of women a man could be aroused by a situation but not want to consummate it or could even be in the act of consummating it and decide not to stop. Any additional stimulation by the female could be considered rape.

Jolt 06-01-2003 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonlich
Remember, kids... rape isn't about sex, it's about *power*.
*dingdingdingding* male, female, animal, vegetable, doesn't matter.
Organic or mechanical, doesn't matter either.
Consensual? That's what matters. It's an excessive, improper expression of dominance. Whether a particular incident can be considered "Rape" or "Assault" or "Misconduct" depends on the laws governing the place where it happened.

Considering that this society is considered by many to be greatly mysogynistic, one might expect quite a few women trying to "reverse roles" and "take matters into their own hands".
At the same time, how many men are honestly strong enough to stand up for themselves after the fact and be able to admit that something like this happened to them? Heck, most of us don't even want to say what health problems we've had. We as "men" want to give the impression that we are always "in control".

_Disclosure_ is perhaps the most detailed, best known story on this subject. Not only did she misuse him, she tried to say that he had misused her, thus really screwing with his life.
Last year there was also an episode of "Law & Order" in which three women were accused of raping a male stripper.

For those who want to get more graphic or want something to perhaps chuckle at, http://tinyurl.com/d71a (nsfw)

Vertigo 06-01-2003 12:39 PM

I doubt that's possible.

Male hormones are stronger than female hormones. I know most woman can do without masturbation for weeks, but with men i highly doubt they aren't spanking the monkey in less than a week, generally speaking. I don't think women got the urge to rape a guy.

But i remember reading a story about a nannie forced a kid to make em look at their peepee's but that doesn't come anywhere close to rape anyways.:o

Force 10 06-01-2003 05:42 PM

True story, happened to me. No shit.

Around 16, drunk at my best girl friends house. she rapped me.

It didn't suck although I was too damn drunk to do anything about it.

A few years later we did it for real. That was much better. It also happend to be the first time I fucked a pregnant girl...

Thanks Jessie!

Willowsr 06-01-2003 07:41 PM

Yes... and anyone who 'fantasizes' about being raped... keep it that way...
Rape is a mind fuck to anyone who has experienced it... while the act is physical and typically violent... what happens to the mind and spirit is nothing to 'fantasize' about....

mrap1 06-01-2003 09:08 PM

Is it still rape if the man ejaculates? I can see how an argument can be made that a penis can be forcefully made to be erect, heck, you can even make the man take some viagra, so that his penis will be hard, but if a guy isn't into it I don't see how he's going to ejaculate. I mean don't they say that sex is like 90% mental stimulation?

komodo 06-01-2003 09:52 PM

Can't rape the willing!

Pyrate 06-02-2003 02:02 AM

At gun point, yeh. Just how she'd get him to bone under such circumstances eludes me though...

Or she could be a Latvian weightlifting champ with a dildo and an anal fetish.

Seriously though, it can and has happened. It's been on the British news years back and I once came across it in the KaZaa 'My Shared Folder' on some college pc...

It was more of a "lie there and let me ride you!" kinda thing, but once again, the boner mystery come back into play.

If a guy is truly, against-his-will raped, is it possible to get boned. Furthermore, is it possible for the rapist to get any pleasure from a flaccid dick?

Sorry, but this is baffling.

:confused:

Bob Biter 06-02-2003 10:16 AM

I don't get why people focus their argument on whether or not a guy is aroused during the act.

Granted, males are generally stronger than females, so a guy could feasibly avoid rape through sheer physical strength, but what about teenage boys or guys dealing with a notably stronger woman or that are just weaker? What about guys who are drugged or taken advantage of while passed out from booze or whatever? What about being threatened with a weapon?

Sure, the guy could remain completely unaroused, but some women prefer friction to actual penetration, so if a woman somehow incapacitated me and used my body for her pleasure without my consent, it wouldn't matter if I was hard or not. What would matter is that I was used against my will by another for pleasure. That, people, is rape. If I incapacitated a girl and came on her, even if no penetration was involved, it could still be considered rape. Unfortunately, us guys tend to be very focused on our dicks and its use for penetration, which is in itself an act of power, so I guess I can understand why some guys make these strange arguments on this thread.

As for reporting it, I agree that most guys would be ashamed to do it, since it all goes back to who has control and who doesn't. Also, we live in a culture that assumes all guys want sex all the time; that we're just waiting with our hand on our zipper to just pull out and go at it, so obviously any guy is going to have a hard time admitting he was raped, meaning that he didn't actually WANT to have sex. However, I'm sure that women raping men is more common than we think, although nowhere near what guys do to women.

snowace56 06-02-2003 02:33 PM

Yea its possible, but I wouldn't resist too much...unless she was ugly or had STDs

riskybiz 06-02-2003 02:48 PM

Yes it CAN and HAS happened. During the mid-1970's I spent a year as a student at Brigham Young University in Provo, UT. BYU is known locally as the 'mormon marriage factory' as it is a place where young mormons find and marry other young mormons. Mormons absolutly do not believe in premarital sex however and though it occurrs there exists at BYU a significant percentage of male and female students who intentionally 'save' their virginity for their future spouse.

Young mormon males often spend 2 years in service to their church on a 'mission' where they spend their time attempting non-mormons to become mormons. During this 2 year period these young men are prohibited from even touching a woman much less caressing, kissing or making love. As you might imagine when these missionaries return home and enroll at BYU they are mighty HORNEY. They often get engaged and married within months of returning from their missions.

Back to my original point. While I was enrolled at BYU the local paper ran a story of a recently returned missionary who somehow allowed a girl to tie him to a bed, got him sufficiently undressed, manipulated his cock so as to achieve wood, hop on and screw him. He didn't claim he couldn't get hard or cum as he had done both. What he did claim was that he was raped and indeed he had been. Kind of a bizarre situation but the tables were indeed turned in this case.

~springrain 06-02-2003 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob Biter
I don't get why people focus their argument on whether or not a guy is aroused during the act.
i couldn't agree more...

of course a woman could rape a man...

this is not rocket science... rape is not about sex... it is about control... period.

viveleroi0 06-02-2003 06:15 PM

Sure. I would like it if it were some hot chick I wanted anyway... but I would be destroyed if it was an older ugly woman.

raeanna74 06-03-2003 03:23 AM

I heard of once instance only a few years back here in my local newpaper. This woman supposedly slipped the guy something in his drink and then got him to a hotel. When he woke up his head was wrapped in a towel and he was naked. He reported the incident to the police because he believed the woman "raped" him. The stupidest part of it all was about a year later she comes back and claims he owes child support for the child she got herself pregnant with. The courts actually asked him to pay it too.

~springrain 06-03-2003 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowflake56
Yea its possible, but I wouldn't resist too much...unless she was ugly or had STDs
Quote:

Originally posted by viveleroi0
Sure. I would like it if it were some hot chick I wanted anyway... but I would be destroyed if it was an older ugly woman.
i really hope that neither one of you two experience rape yourself or someone close to you being raped... you'll regret being so flip and careless about such a painful experience.

~springrain 06-03-2003 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raeanna74
The stupidest part of it all was about a year later she comes back and claims he owes child support for the child she got herself pregnant with. The courts actually asked him to pay it too.
raeanna... somehow that doesn't suprise me...
incredibly stupid... and sad...

RAMONES!!! 06-03-2003 05:52 PM

i think i saw this on peoples court...seriously

06-08-2003 08:13 AM

I would say I've definitely been "raped" under the definition at least twice. Both women got me drunk (while they stayed sober) and took me to bed. I would never have slept with them sober! Shudder...
Seriously though guys, all this talk about whether or not you can get hard is besides the point. Of course you can, it just takes physical stimulation. And even if you "like it" at the time and responded physically, its still rape if you didn't want to do it and were coerced. It would still be rape if the woman got aroused but had said no...wouldn't it? All I know is that the fact that I responded doubled the shame I felt about the incidence. Its a scary thing to have your body betray you so easily. As for admitting it, well I think most guys wouldn't admit it because so many people would try to make him feel ashamed about it (wimp, pussy, crybaby etc.). Those terms have been used on men since they were little kids to control them and are very effective still. Thankfully, I don't give a rat's ass what emotionally manipulative people say about me anymore. :D

~springrain 06-08-2003 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JackSpratt
Seriously though guys, all this talk about whether or not you can get hard is besides the point. Of course you can, it just takes physical stimulation. And even if you "like it" at the time and responded physically, its still rape if you didn't want to do it and were coerced. It would still be rape if the woman got aroused but had said no...wouldn't it? All I know is that the fact that I responded doubled the shame I felt about the incidence. Its a scary thing to have your body betray you so easily. As for admitting it, well I think most guys wouldn't admit it because so many people would try to make him feel ashamed about it (wimp, pussy, crybaby etc.). Those terms have been used on men since they were little kids to control them and are very effective still. Thankfully, I don't give a rat's ass what emotionally manipulative people say about me anymore. :D
very well said... and i commend your honestly and willingness to be open while appearing new to this forum (noting your [Rookie status). it's been a long known fact that one of the reasons incest survivors feel such deep shame and guilt is due to the fact that many of them experience physical arousal during the abuse. a total betrayal... your own body betraying the heart and mind.

i can see this being very much the case with men... and as i stated in one of my earlier posts... Rape is not about sex... it's about control... arousal is beside the point.

kelly 09-07-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Macheath
Yes I think it would be possible, but I suppose the feeling of violation might be more based on being psychologically manipulated than simple brute force. This, as degrawj said, would also make the man less likely to talk about it.


Well of course it can happen but they may not admitte to it

Strange Famous 09-08-2007 03:18 AM

in terms of reporting things... *if* I was ever raped, I personally couldnt imagine there being a need to get the police involved. But I dont think its possible to be raped by a woman, so I am only talking about taking the ultimate retaliation against a male.


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