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marcopolo 04-22-2003 05:52 AM

Perfect Inventions
 
IMHO, there are very few inventions that we have that can be described as perfect. Things that are simple, do exactly the job they are designed for, don't break, no unneeded bellsnwhistles, etc.

In this vein, I offer:

The toilet seat.

Yes, I was just ... pondering, just how wonderful this little thing is. It seems to fit everyone, it has evolved over Millenia, it is comfortable, and while there might be slight differences (color, material, open notch in the front, etc.) they are all essentially the same. Yes, I believe that the toilet seat is one of man's perfect inventions. ( Sorry , no urinal in the basement bathroom remodeling project for those of you who remember back that far . )

The wheel .

Though one could argue it wasn't so much invented as it was found

uncle phil 04-22-2003 06:45 AM

how about that paper clip...

ARTelevision 04-22-2003 07:00 AM

the simple machines:

lever
inclined plane
wheel and axle
screw
wedge
pulley

They are so perfect they reveal not only how the physical world works but how our minds work as well!

Binder 04-22-2003 07:02 AM

the wooden top

troit 04-22-2003 07:02 AM

Re: Perfect Inventions
 
My idea of the perfect invention -- cell phone. I don't know how I lived without it. Don't even have a land line at the house.

*stands back and waits to be pelted with comments*


Quote:

Originally posted by marcopolo
The toilet seat.
You just think this because you can't have a urinal in your basement! ;) Seriuously what ever happened with that?

Unknown Poster 04-22-2003 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ARTelevision
the simple machines:

lever
inclined plane
wheel and axle
screw
wedge
pulley

They are so perfect they reveal not only how the physical world works but how our minds work as well!

Isn't a screw just a modified inclined plane? I think I remember that from school.

TaLoN 04-22-2003 07:42 AM

Re: Perfect Inventions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by marcopolo
Things that are simple, do exactly the job they are designed for, don't break, no unneeded bellsnwhistles, etc.

i can't think of anything that doesn't break. so i offer the toothbrush as a "perfect invention". simple in design, inexpensive, and does a great job

Grondar 04-22-2003 07:44 AM

Re: Re: Perfect Inventions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by troit
My idea of the perfect invention -- cell phone. I don't know how I lived without it. Don't even have a land line at the house.
I don't own a cell phone, and I feel like I may be the only one in my county that doesn't.

They do seem like amazing devices, I just have the viewpoint that I don't want to be "bothered" by phones away from home.

I don't use the phone much anyway, so this is also probably the reason I don't own a cell phone, as I would rarely use it and it would be a waste to pay for every month.

I will admit they are indeed very convienent, and even amazing, I just don't see the need for one at this point in my life.

As for it being the "perfect invention" I am not sure. I guess it all depends on your viewpoint, as I personally would not see it being entirely negative if they were removed from civilization. :)

But that is my opinion, based solely on the fact that I don't use them, and have no desire to.

Quote:

Originally posted by marcopolo
The toilet seat.

Yes, I was just ... pondering, just how wonderful this little thing is. It seems to fit everyone, it has evolved over Millenia, it is comfortable, and while there might be slight differences (color, material, open notch in the front, etc.) they are all essentially the same. Yes, I believe that the toilet seat is one of man's perfect inventions.

Interesting side note.. I was talking to a friend who was studying abroad in Japan, and one of the more interesting things he told me was that in Japan, they don't have toilet seats, as they don't sit at all when doing "their business."

From what I gathered they just squatted over a "basin" and went to work. This initially seemed like quite a unique talent that would be rather difficult, but quite important, to master. :)

ARTelevision 04-22-2003 07:55 AM

Unknown Poster,
in some ways, yes.
at this level everything is a modified something else.
the principle is gaining mechanical advantage
which is another way to say "leverage".
See the root "lever" in there.
For me, the discussion of the simple machines is a philosophical one.
Thanks for your input in that direction!

etla 04-22-2003 08:16 AM

Re: Re: Re: Perfect Inventions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Grondar

Interesting side note.. I was talking to a friend who was studying abroad in Japan, and one of the more interesting things he told me was that in Japan, they don't have toilet seats, as they don't sit at all when doing "their business."

From what I gathered they just squatted over a "basin" and went to work. This initially seemed like quite a unique talent that would be rather difficult, but quite important, to master. :)

It's like that in Thailand. Must be old washrooms in Japan though. The Japanese have really cool toilets with built in bidets, heated seats, blow dryers for your butt, multiple flush settings. Some of them play music to mask the tinkle noises.

rockogre 04-22-2003 08:22 AM

Sorry about the urinal thing Marco, we gave it a shot.

I nominate the humble bucket. When you need a bucket little else will suffice.

ratbastid 04-22-2003 08:27 AM

Little Red Wagon.

Think back. When you were a kid with a wagon, weren't you just about the happiest kid in the world?

phoenix1002 04-22-2003 08:35 AM

The original super soakers!
I'm talking about the 150s or whatever number they were. Before all the "constant pressure system" and "instant fill" things came out.
Those things shot better than any other water gun out there, and never broke. My old super soaker still works, and has lasted longer than any of the newer ones that I've purchased.

In the same line, the original Nerf guns. Again, they were tough as nails, and they actually shot the darts. The new ones are weak, and break after the first good fight.

Sorry to hear you lost the urinal battle, Marco... I guess some fights you just can't win.

boatguy234 04-22-2003 08:56 AM

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World's King 04-22-2003 10:20 AM

The modern toaster and coffee pot... I love those things.

Prophecy 04-22-2003 10:25 AM

The Sitting Wonder
 
For my part I suggest the chair. Yep, its simple and its effective. It comes in many designs, shapes and sizes, three legs and four. The chair is wonder unto itself. When I come home from work the first I thing I look forward to is sitting in my chair, there I can sit and do nothing but rest. The chair is even portable, though some more so than other mind you. The chair is a marvel so similar to the toilet seat that they must be cousin. But the chair is so much better for the simple reason that its softer and in some cases the chair comes with its own foot rest. From sitting in my chair in front of the boobtube, to resting on the deck in the breeze, to relaxing by the fire, the chair is the item enjoy most in my house.

John_Gault 04-22-2003 10:43 AM

Far and away the greatest discovery/invention since the simple machines is .....toilet paper.

Though I am please they are around, I can live without toilet seats (our asian bretheren rarely use them in public restrooms) and tooth brushes. Paper clips and cell phones are great luxuries but we've all gotten along without them from time to time. The TiVo is a great little gadget but strictly for fun and I can sit on the floor if there isn't a comfy chair around. But I submit to you that a life without toilet paper is a lesser life indeed.

Cynthetiq 04-22-2003 10:48 AM

hmmm... fulcrum... great for launching your peas at your significant other.

Prophecy 04-22-2003 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by John_Gault
... But I submit to you that a life without toilet paper is a lesser life indeed.

Ah, you haven't lived till you experienced the joys of using leaves in wilderness, searching for those special leaves that are poisonus is just another part of the fun....

Acoustica 04-22-2003 12:27 PM

The mouse.. can you imagine pushing tab to transfer between links? Screw the keyboard!

i8one2 04-22-2003 12:37 PM

the microwave is my nomination

Grondar 04-22-2003 12:41 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Inventions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by etla
It's like that in Thailand. Must be old washrooms in Japan though. The Japanese have really cool toilets with built in bidets, heated seats, blow dryers for your butt, multiple flush settings. Some of them play music to mask the tinkle noises.
Now that you mention it, maybe he is in China. Would that make more sense for them to have "toilets" similiar to the ones mentioned above?

Actually, now that I think of it, I am pretty sure it was indeed China and not Japan that he is studying abroad in.

My mistake.

rs8001 04-22-2003 04:24 PM

I am so dissappointed about the urinal. I hope I can one day pick up on your valiant effort Marco.

John_Gault 04-22-2003 04:31 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Perfect Inventions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Grondar
Now that you mention it, maybe he is in China. Would that make more sense for them to have "toilets" similiar to the ones mentioned above?

Actually, now that I think of it, I am pretty sure it was indeed China and not Japan that he is studying abroad in.

My mistake.

I think most asian countries use the "squatting" toilets in thier public restrooms. I was in Japan a few years back and most of the public rooms had squatters and all of the private ones had really bad ass heated, squirty, blow drying sitters. They really are quite nice.

arael 04-22-2003 04:57 PM

The wheel....

Johnny Rotten 04-22-2003 05:28 PM

I like those bras that open from the front.

The Internet is a close second.

MSD 04-23-2003 07:07 AM

Re: Re: Perfect Inventions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by troit
My idea of the perfect invention -- cell phone. I don't know how I lived without it. Don't even have a land line at the house.

*stands back and waits to be pelted with comments*

Roaming.

An I agree with Johnny Rotten that the front-opening bra is great, even if I've never had the chance to operate one.

SaltPork 04-23-2003 09:24 AM

I can't believe no one has said Porn. I mean really, I don't need a toilet seat if I have porn. I'm a little disappointed in you people.

orbital 04-23-2003 09:44 AM

The transformer. It is over 98% efficient in most circumstances, and has made possible the vast proliferation of electronic modern conveniences.

gibber71 04-23-2003 09:59 AM

Twist off bottle caps

BoCo 04-23-2003 10:02 AM

scissors and door knobs

scarebearjinx 04-23-2003 10:05 AM

nitendo systems
i don't know what i would if i didn't have my playstation. it keeps me occupied and i'm not annoying everyone.

Liquor Dealer 04-23-2003 10:13 AM

I was thinking zippers...

Binder 04-23-2003 10:26 AM

the tonka dumptruck.
the old ones that were made of metal not the new plastic toys. those trucks lasted forever.

bubbaspike 04-23-2003 11:55 AM

The internet
Heh its not perfect [ don't we know it ] but probably the best invention in the last 200 years

phoenix1002 04-23-2003 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by i8one2
the microwave is my nomination
I don't know... I've gotten along fine without a microwave for quite a long time-19 years of my life, actually. We have one now, but I really don't use it for much more than popcorn. Really, anything you can do in a microwave, you can do on a stove.

Except maybe making it blow up by putting an egg inside... I've never seen anyone do that with a stove.

uncle phil 04-23-2003 12:42 PM

scotch tape...

velcro...

sundial...

rsl12 04-23-2003 01:32 PM

going back to the original post...

the toilet seat is *not* perfect. I would suggest that you look at the direction of toilets in japan/korea: the squatting toilet is far superior. bowel movements go out much much easier, there is much less splash, and there is less contamination of butt cheek to pocelain.

that being said, i once lost pair of sunglass i put in my pocket because i squatted too deeply...

SecretMethod70 04-23-2003 03:12 PM

The fork. We will never create a better fork.

(I left the knife out because the quality varies from manufacturer - some are not so good and some are great, and the spoon is left out because different depths and widths can be explored.)

BubblegumTeflon 04-23-2003 04:01 PM

What about the Spork SecretMethod70?

apetaster 04-23-2003 04:04 PM

Claw hammer. When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail (someone special first said that.)

pazza 04-23-2003 05:38 PM

those flip out hand fan things. Cheap, easy to use, effective. what could be better

blkdmnd 04-23-2003 06:03 PM

Ahhh, the spork....

Zotz 04-23-2003 06:13 PM

the pillow

the cup

the condom

MSD 04-23-2003 09:15 PM

The spork is a failure. Its bowl is too shallow to use as a decent spoon for soup, and its teeth are too short to spear much of anything, and barely suficient to hold food in place for cutting. It doe, however, have the second coolest name out of all utensiils, second to the spatula, adn more religious followers than teh spoon and the fork combined ever will have.

platypus 04-25-2003 12:09 PM

The Venus 2000

http://www.sybian.com/venus2000_overview.htm

and for the ladies...

The Sybian

http://www.sybian.com/sybian_overview.htm

sixate 04-25-2003 12:39 PM

The Titty Board Post Generator gets my nomination. That fuckin' thing saves a ton of time.

charlesesl 04-26-2003 09:59 PM

fire, we wouldnt be here without it

Sun Tzu 04-26-2003 11:24 PM

Clothes are materials of the same that make things translucent.

The Japanese method of folding metal in sword making.

User Name 04-27-2003 10:39 AM

Indoor plumbing. I cannot imagine how I survived 7 years of my life without it back in good ole' Ukraine.

uncle phil 04-27-2003 03:44 PM

sometimes, all i need is the air that i breathe...

Motry Latchman 04-27-2003 04:29 PM

Coffee and a hot shower for the morning.
Red wine and TFP for the evening.

door 04-27-2003 07:00 PM

Liquid Prel (any shampoo).

It's bringing families together. A mother of 40 and a daughter of 16 are talking again for the first time!

"Oh mom, don't use to much, its concentrated" "Oh, it makes your hair shiney"

The heart lung Machine? whats so great about that. If its in your cabinet and it falls out...its gona break! Shampoo won't break.

And if you put a pearl in it, it sinks to the bottom real slow...

Gota love Mel Brooks

bundy 04-28-2003 02:48 AM

spice girls.
very nearly perfect.

zipper 04-28-2003 02:59 AM

Boobies, perfect in every way, nuture you when you are a yet a baby, and comfort you for the rest of your life. Ahhhhhhhhh......there is nothing like boobies......

MrFlux 04-28-2003 03:13 AM

Bowls.... nearly perfect except I still spill stuff.

redravin40 04-28-2003 03:21 AM

I'd have to say refrigeration.
It is true that man lived without it for a long time but he also died of rotting food, scurvy, drank warm beer and ate a pretty bland diet.
I've lived without running water and electricity. The thing I missed most was the refrigerator.

uncle phil 04-28-2003 03:45 AM

just saw a pic in exhibition...clothspins would qualify, if used properly...

unoaman 07-20-2004 11:14 AM

For the readers out there, it's hands down gotta be...Throw away underwear with short stories printed in the crotch, for those that like to read on the crapper.

Karby 07-20-2004 11:22 AM

soap.
and deoderant.

kutulu 07-20-2004 11:41 AM

I'm putting in a second vote for porn. Mags, video, DVD, internet, whatever. Life in my teens and early 20's would have been much less exciting without it.

07-20-2004 12:02 PM

I say spoons

Bobaphat 07-20-2004 12:13 PM

The clock and irrigation. Where would be be without these?

jizzmasterp 07-20-2004 12:31 PM

I'm surprised no one has said this but industrial strength duct tape is one of God's many gifts to man.

DelayedReaction 07-20-2004 12:32 PM

I've broken 3 or 4 toilet seats in my life, and most of the ones are just too damn small nowadays. Being 6'9" doesn't make life easy.

The perfect invention is one that accomplishes what it was designed to do. It may break, but only after a designated design life. I vote for the spoon myself.

Hash_Browns 07-20-2004 12:44 PM

the internal-combustion engine...I only say this as the hubby pulls up in the driveway...I think it might work ;)

Mephisto2 07-20-2004 01:23 PM

It's debatable if you could call these inventions, rather than developments but I humby submit the following.

In order,

Language
Writing


Without both of these, we would have no civilization, as we know it, and therefore none of the other more obvious "inventions".

Agriculture comes a close third.

I highly recommend the book The Third Chimpanzee for some very interesting discussions on this fascinating subject.


Mr Mephisto

KellyC 07-20-2004 02:14 PM

The umbrella. It's my best friend on the rainy school days when I have to walk home. :)

rockzilla 07-20-2004 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquor Dealer
I was thinking zippers...
Have you ever been... caught... in a zipper? There's nothing perfect about it.

tecoyah 07-20-2004 07:20 PM

Language....unbreakable, versatile, and the key to civilization.

hulk 07-20-2004 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jizzmasterp
I'm surprised no one has said this but industrial strength duct tape is one of God's many gifts to man.
Unless you want to actually seal some ducts, then you've got problems =P

ironman 07-21-2004 02:02 PM

Thongs!

Polyphobic 07-21-2004 02:15 PM

Snaps: those of you with infants will agree.
That and TP.

Corvette3600 07-21-2004 07:43 PM

caffeine...nuff said :D

xjumper84 07-21-2004 08:08 PM

the perfect invention is NOT THE COMPUTER..

it sucks.. then again.. i'm just bored with it right now

BigGov 07-21-2004 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
It's debatable if you could call these inventions, rather than developments but I humby submit the following.

In order,

Language
Writing


Without both of these, we would have no civilization, as we know it, and therefore none of the other more obvious "inventions".

Agriculture comes a close third.

I highly recommend the book The Third Chimpanzee for some very interesting discussions on this fascinating subject.


Mr Mephisto

Dammit, took the words right out of my mouth. Made 'em a little more eloquent, but ya still took 'em right out of my mouth.

DirtyVegas 07-22-2004 12:45 AM

the pill....

tropple 07-22-2004 02:54 AM

The M-14.

KnifeMissile 07-22-2004 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unknown Poster
Quote:

Originally posted by ARTelevision
the simple machines:

lever
inclined plane
wheel and axle
screw
wedge
pulley

They are so perfect they reveal not only how the physical world works but how our minds work as well!

Isn't a screw just a modified inclined plane? I think I remember that from school.
If you're going to go that vein, out of ARTelevision's list, there are only three machines. The lever, the inclined plane, and the pulley.

The wheel and axle is just a lever that rotates 360°.
The screw is just an inclined plane wraped around a cylinder.
The wedge is just an mobile inclined plane.

The three simple machines that I listed are, however, very different from each other. So much so, I believe, that the only thing they have in common is that they all trade distance for force to perform the same amount of work (likely, the definition of a machine).

BadNick 07-22-2004 12:01 PM

We're only human and nothing we make is perfect and as far as I can tell never will be ...unless your definition of "perfect" is less perfect than mine. I mean material objects of course. Maybe conceptual stuff can be perfect but I'm not philosphical enough to decide that.

Things break, wear out ...is that perfect? I don't think so. Some of the good ideas above are "nearly perfect" and that's good enough for me. I guess I'm just easy.

BadNick 07-22-2004 12:05 PM

Why do they call it duck tape?


Because it seals quacks.

marcusoft 12-09-2009 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troit (Post 34257)
My idea of the perfect invention -- cell phone. I don't know how I lived without it. Don't even have a land line at the house.

*stands back and waits to be pelted with comments*

My definition of a perfect invention is something that doesn't have to be improved. Since cellphones always have their defects and there are new phones coming out all the time i wouldn't call it a perfect invention.

I would say the quilt is an incredibly good invention :P don't have the guts to call it perfect though.

Xerxys 12-09-2009 06:28 AM

The WC toilet! OMG I love the WC toilet with all my heart!

Stare At The Sun 12-09-2009 12:00 PM

I'll just go with electricity.

percy 12-09-2009 03:33 PM

deodorant

Plan9 12-09-2009 03:36 PM

The lensatic compass is a mighty fine instrument.

jnthnlllshprd 12-09-2009 05:11 PM

pencil and paper.

Fremen 12-10-2009 12:34 AM

weaving

Some people shouldn't be unclothed.

12Packaday 12-10-2009 01:16 AM

The fish hook. The beer cooler. And the lawnmower......Not MY lawnmower, the kids down the street. Mines a piece of shit that requires work

biznatch 12-10-2009 02:05 AM

The bicycle is pretty near perfect: low impact on joints, good efficiency on energy, etc. I just wish roads were more adapted for its riders.

flat5 12-10-2009 07:50 AM

The PERFECT invention is cheap, simple, everyone needs it, and it can only be used once. The safety match.

percy 12-10-2009 01:29 PM

global warming, banking crisis, housing crisis, religion, Las Vegas

our faz 12-12-2009 10:32 AM

I think Cat's Eyes are a pretty good invention. Obviously not quite so epic as fire or the wheel, but pretty useful. Driving down dark lanes at night is a lot easier when they've bothered putting some on the road for you. I remember seeing them on TV as a new invention many years ago now, and thinking they were absolute genius because of their simplicity. How do you make driving safer by lighting the road without actually lighting the road? Whoever came up with that is pretty bloody clever.

BadNick 12-12-2009 12:25 PM

hot dog bun

Gloves 03-01-2010 09:49 AM

I would say it is the camera,as it preserves the past present and future. Back to the future>now has a real meaning.


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