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Science Disproves Evolution
Eighteen Factors Disproving Evolution Evolution flunks the science test Irreducible complexity——Biochemists and microbiologists have discovered that the various components of every living creature in the world are so complicated and interrelated, that it could not function without every one of them. There is no way that some of the parts could have been added later. Instantaneous complexity——Each entire living creature had to be totally assembled instantly, in order for it to begin living. If this was not done, parts would decay before other parts were made. All aspects had to be there together, all at once. Mathematically impossible——Mathematicians have found that the likelihood of DNA, enzymes, amino acids, and proteins being randomly assembled by the chance methods offered by evolutionary theory is impossible. Intelligently designed——Everything in creation—from the largest galaxy to the smallest atom—reveals the fact that it was planned, designed, and constructed by an Intelligent Being of the highest intellect and capabilities. Complicated interrelated functions of separate systems——All of the various structures and organs in every living thing are marvelously interrelated. In order to maintain its existence, each part depends on many others. Extremely involved production sequence——The various processes by which things are made in living organisms are complicated in the extreme. Very lengthy production sequences are generally required. Each step in the procedure must follow other correctly taken steps. Coded instructions which are referred to and obeyed——Not only are coded instructions provided for everything done in the cell, but proteins and enzymes read and obey these instructions—as though they had the brains to do this! Ideal location of structures——Every component on or within each organism is consistently located in the best place, in relation to other components, space limitations, and maximum efficiency in operation. Only careful planning could do this. Narrowed limits everywhere——Wherever we turn in the natural world (here on earth and in the sky above us) we find that, what is called, the "anthropic principle" is involved. An extremely narrow range of conditions exists where life can exist, stars can form, and planets can revolve and orbit around the sun. This narrowed range is found repeatedly by researchers, and is too compressed to have been caused by accidents or coincidence. Functional objects which provide an attractive, even beautiful appearance——Living creatures which are commonly seen are generally quite attractive in appearance. The production of a beautiful form requires intelligent planning and execution. In addition, attractive coloration is provided. Consider the color and shaping of the cardinal, the robin, and many animals and trees. These are elements and attributes which are not necessary for survival, yet which provide additional comfort and beauty. Only intelligence can produce beautiful things. Excessive information content and capacity in life forms——Such a capacity, far beyond the bare minimum needed for survival, is repeatedly found. The brain power of mankind is remarkable. The lower forms of life also show an abundance of capacity beyond the amount needed for mere survival. The characteristic of life itself——Within every living organism is a mysterious something which cannot be initiated by any known natural or human-induced device or method. Not even a superior created intelligence could produce this. Only God could implant life. In life, we are confronted with a continual miracle. The total impossibility of any other means to produce and maintain all these functions and organisms——All the functions and structures in multiplied trillions of organisms must continually be cared for by an Intelligence out of and beyond ourselves. We are told, "In Him we live and move and have our being" (Acts 17:28). The existence and operation of basic, and other, natural laws governing everything——Even the laws of nature had to be devised and set in place. They did not spring into being automatically. The existence, structure, and unvarying function of basic elements of matter——Gaze within the atom. Why do the various particles keep whirling about one another? There are puzzles here which far exceed our understanding of basic matter and electrical forces. The atomic structure, movements, and functions of the elements are amazing. All of nature is simply too astounding——We are too quick to take everything for granted. It is impossible for everything that exists—to exist—in its present useful form and function, much less in any form or function; yet it does. The inability of the opposing view to provide even one solid scientific evidence in support of its theory——This is a very revealing fact. A "scientific theory" is not scientific, when it lacks the underlying scientific evidence proving it to be worthwhile. Oh yes, evolution includes theories built on theories. But the basic theory, they are all piled on top of, is totally lacking in scientific evidence. While Creationists are able to present a multitude of scientific evidences (such as are found in this present book), evolutionists can only reply with ridicule and efforts to stifle discussion—--They dare not present valid scientific data to support their theory, because they have none. The ridicule and lack of supporting scientific evidence are abundantly seen in the articles they write in scientific journals, attempting to refute Creationist books and articles. |
Pretty colored fonts aside, this is bullshit.
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I believe in intelligent design but half of these reasons my 6 year old could argue away...
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Bald assertions with no proof. Sounds like Creatard reasoning to me.
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whee!
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having to dispose of the coloUrs just to figure out what the dude was attempting to say one minute ---------- Post added at 07:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:37 PM ---------- "Mathematically impossible——[/color] Mathematicians have found that the likelihood of DNA, enzymes, amino acids, and proteins being randomly assembled by the chance methods offered by evolutionary theory is impossible. Read more: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/general...#ixzz17ZuORtX3 perhaps theres a reason he masked it in coloUr? ever wondered about that tidal pool dude? and do you know the term "tidal pool?" now what the hell mathamatics has to do with evolution? beyond me now had he said chance happenstance (different branch of math) such as we getting such a large moon at a close distance big enough to produce tidal pools ooooooh no where else in this solar system is there a moon such as ours and in the goldilocks zone Habitable zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia meanwhile Man creates world's first synthetic life form | DVICE The Atheist Conservative: Man creates life but perhaps most interesting is this "The news is stunning. Scientists for the first time have created artificial life. Craig Ventner, invariably described as a maverick biologist (he's also a billionaire from various business ventures) has made a so-called designer microbe, nicknamed "Synthia," that is able to replicate itself. This is undoubtedly a great advance for scientific knowledge. But it also sounds like the fulfillment of a key 2012 doomsday prophecy, namely, that man will learn how to play God, epitomized by the creation of life itself. Many of the prophecies and predictions, from ancient times until now, allude to a belief that this development will herald coming upheavals and disasters, which will worsen until they culminate in some mega cataclysm on or around 12-21-2012...... 2012 Doomsday Prophecy - Man Creates Life circling those wagons dude? get used to it mans moving forward with ya or without ya and your religion |
The creation of 'man' may have been one of my bigger mistakes. But, to be fair, I will give your species another millennia to impress me....
Do not let me down again! |
For shame you Doubting Thomases (for those not getting the Biblical reference here, I'm not talking about a hole in Pahu's side, but rather his head)... there are several words in the OP that are actually true. Many of the articles and adjectives are demonstrably correct.
I prefer to respond on a level intellectually equal to the arguments put forth in the article by paraphrasing that definitive repository of modern knowledge and science (paraphrasing since I don't have it here at the moment to give the exact quote) - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. To whit: - The Universe is unimaginably huge, vast, and essentially infinite (that we cannot see beyond a certain point is OUR limitation, not that of the universe); - The number of living organisms in the Universe is finite; - Mathematically, dividing the volume of the Universe by the number of living organisms extant gives a number so small as to be indistinguishable from zero; - Therefore, the existence of life is disproved; - Ergo, the Universe being devoid of life, we do not exist, the article in the OP was never written, we were never created because we do not exist, and Sunday brunch is simply a figment of a deranged imagination. The proof is complete, robust, and unassailable by any form of logic. |
GreyWolf - side note, not to detract from OP. Love your avatar. I want to show you a picture of one of my dogs but I can't yet. I'm too new and don't have the post count.
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Don't feed the troll.
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troll! well his (her?) status is banned. Is that telling? At any rate, just a cursory reading of the OP's arguments found them to be backwards deductions.
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I hope this thread stays up for a bit. I'd like to take a crack at offering a few counter arguments when I'm done with my final exams this week.
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"...a number so small as to be indistinguishable from zero."
With a suitable resolution, any number that is NOT zero IS distinguishable from zero. |
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In total non-support of my statement, a basic tenet of quantum mechanics is that there is finite resolution to all measurements, beyond which one cannot go without altering reality and the basic substructure of the Universe. I stand by my belief that my proof of the non-existence of life is as valid as any proof offered in the OP.:rolleyes: |
The concepts in the OP have been addressed a number of times by evolutionary theorists (Stephen J. Gould is one that comes to mind).
The biggest concept that throws people off is the concept of "deep time" with regard to considering the mechanism and outcome of the process of natural selection. It boggles our minds to think in terms of long spans of time considering that we operate on cycles of 24-hours, 7 days, ~30 days, and 365 days, and have a lifespan of anywhere between 40 years and 80 years, give or take. Tell a child that they have to wait until next year before doing something they're obsessed about and see the reaction. Tell a lover that you'll see them in 10 years, and watch the reaction. Now consider that WWII ended 65 years ago. To those who are still alive, this is a distant memory and society has changed greatly since the '40s, both socially and technologically. Now consider that the United States of America was recognized as a sovereign state over 230 years ago. That's several lifetimes. Ponder that a moment, and then consider that China has a culture dating back nearly 4,000 years. Woah, right? Now consider that Neanderthals became extinct approximately 30,000 years ago. This means that they've been extinct 7.5 times longer than the existence of one of the most ancient cultures in the world. Take your time. Think about that. Now consider that the genus Homo appeared around 200,000 years ago. Now consider that the dinosaurs died out around 65 million years ago. Now consider that mammals appeared around 200 million years ago. Now consider that multicellular life appeared around 1 billion years ago. Now consider that the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old. Do you see a pattern? The "milestones" of evolution dating back from your 6-year-old's temper tantrum about "next year" all the way to 4.5 billion years tend to space out exponentially and through mind-boggling spans of time. Most people today can't sit quietly for 10 minutes without stimulation, and we're talking about billions of years of evolution here. And people question the existence of complex lifeforms and geology? |
This guy's argument: "I can't fit it in my head, therefore it must be false."
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Can we close this thread? Or burn it at the stake?
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But to argue with you a bit, the number of life forms and stars is indeed finite, so the answer is discrete and resolvable within the range of real numbers. There are no singularities involved in the calculation. |
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Then my job is done. And the game is afoot.
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Cool post bro! People often neglect time when discussing the possibilities if Alien life out there. Even if we could prove that there aren't any right now, there could have been in the past or will be in the future. There's so much space and so much time. We just see a little bit of it all. |
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also, for the rest of the thread, has there been a globally accepted definition for 'life'? i tried this in my bio class the other day and for every trait we could think of, there was some animal or bacteria that was an exception |
But scientists, that this guy does not quote, or link to, have proven that evolution is false. And mathematics, which again, not linked to or quoted, also have proven it. WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN???
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Science is a small cabal of men in white lab coats who are easily baffled by their own research and above all else don't want you to know how to maintain your own health.
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I believe the current science states that the universe is 'Finite but Unbounded' that is the Universe is limited in size but has no edge. Most of the points in the OP have been presented on a TV series I used to watch just to laugh at how silly people could be. The usual argument was to present some complex organism and then say 'How could this arise by chance?' with no further proof or discussion.
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Or do our current theories of the Universe prevent that? |
So what's the consensus then?
It's all too confounding and sublime, so let's create a mythology to explain it? |
I'm not surprised that a process with a timescale of billions of years is not more readily apparent to an organism with an average lifespan of 70 years, but I'm still disappointed every time tripe like this gets passed from one person to another. Certainly this OP didn't originate this refuse, so that means this vomitous mass of intellectually-deficient diarrhea passed between *at least* two people who uncritically believed it.
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I think you are correct, but I find it interesting that in an area as well defined as science there is room for differences in the manner of expression that allows for misunderstandings. The one phrase you used about the 'laws of physics breaking down' could stand some exploration. As I see it there are two cases where the laws of physics as science could break down, one at the instant of the Big Bang where current does not quite explain every thing. The other may be at the end of time space and the universe, if that occures, where our current understanding may not apply. The one phrase you used 'the edge of expansion' is problematical as the Universe is described as finite but unbounded which implies that there is no 'edge' and this is difficult to comprehend at best. If there is no 'edge' how can the laws of physics break down at this non-existant edge? This concept is counter intuitive and simply outside of human experience and possably understanding as well.
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thedoc, I think you've forgotten another instance where physics breaks down, but it's at the opposite end of the spectrum. When dealing with quantum foam and dimensions, the laws of physics change drastically and the very nature of particles changes. Again, the concept is counterintuitive and possibly beyond our understanding. That said, it's a lot easier to study than the edge of the universe.
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I havn't seen much about 'Quantum Foam' and I will assume, for now, that the dimentions are in reference to string theory which seems to require additional dimentions to work. But this does bring to mind another possability in 'Black Holes' where the current laws of physics may not explain all. |
dimentions - i love it...
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