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Salem 02-13-2010 04:32 PM

Foreskin!
 
Alright, I'm a gold-star lesbian thus far. But I'm not saying I'd never put some beef in my taco. And I think I'd prefer foreskin. I don't see the point of circumcision scientifically or aesthetically, so I'd go with unzipped. What does everyone else think? Foreskin awesome, Foreskin bad? Yes, guys you to. This isn't just a sex poll. How do you feel about your dicks?

Halx 02-13-2010 04:44 PM

This will have different results depending on where you ask the question. USA has this strange, stupid bias in favor of circumcision. As an uncut guy in the USA, it is quite boggling to see people come up with all sorts of silly justifications for genital mutilation...

Salem 02-13-2010 05:00 PM

Yeah, which is kind of weird. I mean, I know where it came from but why has it lasted so long?

LoganSnake 02-13-2010 05:09 PM

In Eastern Europe only religious Jews get circumcised or if there is an immediate medical need (whatever it may be). I will never understand the American mentality about mutilating their sons' dicks.

Plan9 02-13-2010 05:12 PM

I don't care about them either way but I find it amusing exactly how many Cyalume chemlights can be held inside one.

SSJTWIZTA 02-13-2010 05:20 PM

opinions.


that is all. (really, that's all that needs to be said)

Salem 02-13-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA (Post 2758506)
opinions.


that is all. (really, that's all that needs to be said)


Word. And that's all I'm gauging. Opinions on Opinions. So far it looks interesting. Not what I expected.

World's King 02-13-2010 06:01 PM

I didn't have a choice.

Although I've never been a fan of turtle necks.

Lindy 02-13-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salem (Post 2758483)
Alright, I'm a gold-star lesbian thus far. But I'm not saying I'd never put some beef in my taco. And I think I'd prefer foreskin. I don't see the point of circumcision scientifically or aesthetically, so I'd go with unzipped. What does everyone else think? Foreskin awesome, Foreskin bad? Yes, guys you to. This isn't just a sex poll. How do you feel about your dicks?

Without getting into the whys of circumcision, (but hey, it's one thing that Jews and Muslims can agree on) I would have to say that in this woman's experience circumcised dicks may have a little different shape. Risky, like any generalization, but I think maybe (may have to do more research;)) the glans may tend to be larger on a circumcised dick.
I really love the feel of just the head going in a couple of inches, and then back out. Maybe a little more "mushroom" shape than pipe or bottle shape (where the head is smaller than the shaft) just rubs me the right way, so to speak.:) And I think I've noticed that shape more on circumcised guys. Your mileage may vary, blah, blah, blah.

I've also heard that uncut is more sensitive, more pleasurable, for the man. Kind of puts the cum back in circumcision. I don't know if that sensitivity would make a difference to the woman.

Lindy

ASU2003 02-13-2010 09:29 PM

Foreskin is the way it was designed, and it works just fine the vast majority of times. There is no good reason to get rid of it. Doing that doesn't sound like fun at all.

cellophanedeity 02-13-2010 11:05 PM

I prefer it natural, for both feeling and aesthetics. Lindy, I really don't think that foreskin has much to do with glans size. I've found at least one perfectly shaped penis with both a nice big head and an intact foreskin.

Vigilante 02-14-2010 01:15 AM

I like mine cut. I've never known what it was like uncut, but I like it cut nonetheless. I heard it's easier to keep it clean cut since there's no overlapping skin, but what do I know. I've never had a dirt issue, infection issue, no excess smegma...whatever.

Daniel_ 02-14-2010 04:04 AM

As the proud owner of an uncut penis, I am happy with it, and all the people who have allowed me to share it with them have been realtively complimentary.

The claim about hygiene is bogus in a world in which we can shower or wash every day.

seamaiden 02-14-2010 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindy (Post 2758531)

I've also heard that uncut is more sensitive, more pleasurable, for the man. Kind of puts the cum back in circumcision. I don't know if that sensitivity would make a difference to the woman.

Lindy

It makes a difference to me. Having had both, I really love the way uncircumcised men (the ones I've been with, anyway) are extra sensitive right after orgasm. It's kind of fun to make the most of that vulnerable moment too, like tickling someone who's laughing to hard to resist. (Hope that doesn't make me sound sadistic)

noodle 02-14-2010 05:59 AM

I love uncut. It's incredibly sexy to watch the head emerge as arousal increases.
And I've never had an issue with him not able to keep exceptional hygiene in that area.
I totally agree with seamaiden on the sensitivity issue, except my man gets so sensitive about a minute and a half after orgasm that it's almost painful to touch him. But overall, he's more sensitive than other men I've had the discussion with.

wooÐs 02-14-2010 06:38 AM

I've been with a German guy and an English guy (not at the same time,) who were uncut. I highly prefer cut. That's all I'll say fttb.

Daniel_ 02-14-2010 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wooÐs (Post 2758638)
I've been with a German guy and an English guy (not at the same time,) who were uncut. I highly prefer cut. That's all I'll say fttb.

If you'd had a German and an Englishman at the same time, we'd just have to call you Belgium! ;)

dlish 02-14-2010 07:11 AM

i didnt have a choice either..but as a muslim, ive got nothing against it. and for the record its not the only thing that muslims and jews share in common.

is it genital mutilation? it depends on who you ask really, but no more mutilation that piercings or tattoos. i had my son snipped a few days after he was born. He never cried and the procedure is quite straight forward these days. i hope he carries on the tradition.

MSD 02-14-2010 07:55 AM

A nice, convenient way to add a few hundred bucks to the bill for having a kid and pretend it's about health. There's almost never a medical reason to do it, and amputating part of your son's penis because your religion or culture has been doing it for thousands of years is not rational. Circumcising infants should be illegal unless there's a medical necessity.

wooÐs 02-14-2010 08:41 AM

I have a relative whose parents decided against circumcision. He's had issues with infections ever since his childhood because of this. He's currently 63 and still has issues with him and his wife sharing these infections back and forth. Yet he fears having anything done about it now (i.e. pain.)

This may not be common, but it happens.

snowy 02-14-2010 09:22 AM

Having only ever come across guys who were cut, I can't say I have an opinion.

Fire 02-15-2010 06:21 PM

circumcision does lessen the risk of hiv transmission by a considerable amount- and as a guy who's ex cheated on him with god knows how many men, I for one welcome anything that may have helped keep me safe..... and having had orgasms before and after being circumcised ( it was done at 12) I can say that the man will loose some sensitivity in general, but the orgasm is just as intense, possibly more so post circumcision... I am the only person I know that has the ability to compare, but I am only one person.... so make your own conclusions.....

ASU2003 02-16-2010 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire (Post 2759190)
circumcision does lessen the risk of hiv transmission by a considerable amount

I'm too tired to argue against that BS biased study and the lies and agenda it was intended to promote again.

I wrote a whole post about it a few years ago here.

Plan9 02-16-2010 07:25 AM

Fire, what the hell are you talking about? Foreskin increasing your risk of HIV is like saying having fingers increase your chance of picking your nose.

SSJTWIZTA 02-16-2010 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9 (Post 2759396)
... is like saying having fingers increase your chance of picking your nose.

it doesnt?

Anormalguy 02-16-2010 10:10 AM

I was circumscised shortly after birth, so I don't know if I miss having a foreskin or not. I am curious to know if the foreskin enhances pleasure during intercourse, or is it a hinderance during vigorous physical intercourse.

SSJTWIZTA 02-16-2010 10:46 AM

my friend josh got the scissors when he was 16. he says he loves it.

Derwood 02-16-2010 11:14 AM

I've been circumsized since birth, and in my experience, the scar tissue area on the underside of my shaft (just below the head) is the most sensitive area of my penis. Too sensitive in some cases.

Vigilante 02-16-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSD (Post 2758649)
Circumcising infants should be illegal unless there's a medical necessity.

Well I'm glad you're not making any laws, because I'm glad I'm cut. Wife prefers it too :)

Lindy 02-16-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seamaiden (Post 2758621)
It makes a difference to me. Having had both, I really love the way uncircumcised men (the ones I've been with, anyway) are extra sensitive right after orgasm. It's kind of fun to make the most of that vulnerable moment too, like tickling someone who's laughing to hard to resist. (Hope that doesn't make me sound sadistic)

It IS amusing to see how they will scramble to get away from that touch they were so eager for a minute earlier.:lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derwood (Post 2759494)
I've been circumsized since birth, and in my experience, the scar tissue area on the underside of my shaft (just below the head) is the most sensitive area of my penis. Too sensitive in some cases.

My personal experience (mostly in the US of A, and mostly with men or boys who were --at least nominally-- Christians or Jews) with circumcised men tells me that their sensitivity is certainly "sufficient.";)

Lindy

Merlocke 02-16-2010 04:38 PM

not quite sure what to add really as it's truly opinion.

However I must say that during a foosball match up one taunt to an opponent was "You're as useless as foreskin" drew a whole lot more laughter than I thought it would.

ASU2003 02-16-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vigilante (Post 2759506)
Well I'm glad you're not making any laws, because I'm glad I'm cut.

We need to do something to get medical costs and hospital expenses under control. It seems like getting rid of doing that procedure routinely would help. It might reduce the amount of lube that needs to be bought as well once they get older.

Lindy 02-17-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlocke (Post 2759610)
not quite sure what to add really as it's truly opinion.

However I must say that during a foosball match up one taunt to an opponent was "You're as useless as foreskin" drew a whole lot more laughter than I thought it would.

Foreskins do have a use. I heard there used to be a rabbi in Boston that would save the foreskins from doing circumcisions and made little souvenir coin purses.:paranoid:
Then if you rubbed one it would turn into a briefcase.:)

Lindy

james t kirk 02-19-2010 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vigilante (Post 2759506)
Well I'm glad you're not making any laws, because I'm glad I'm cut. Wife prefers it too :)

Ditto that.

I'm a convertable myself and quite happy about it.

My GF is also happy.

I've dated women who refuse to have sex with UC men. (No, I'm not making that up.) Others who exclaim, "thank god your circumcised, my last BF was uncut....."

I once dated a woman who was in the medical industry and she stated that while she felt it was totally unnecessary she loved cut cocks and if she had a son she would feel very bad about it, but she would have him done.

All that said, it comes down to personal preference.

But I certainly do not agree with those who think it is barbaric, or should be outlawed, or anything so silly. Really, as surgery goes, it's not a big deal.

Daniel_ 02-19-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james t kirk (Post 2760286)
Ditto that.

I'm a convertable myself and quite happy about it.

My GF is also happy.

I've dated women who refuse to have sex with UC men. (No, I'm not making that up.) Others who exclaim, "thank god your circumcised, my last BF was uncut....."

I once dated a woman who was in the medical industry and she stated that while she felt it was totally unnecessary she loved cut cocks and if she had a son she would feel very bad about it, but she would have him done.

All that said, it comes down to personal preference.

But I certainly do not agree with those who think it is barbaric, or should be outlawed, or anything so silly. Really, as surgery goes, it's not a big deal.

It's fashion. Pure and simple.

How would we respond if men all decided that visible labia minora were disgusting and needed to be snipped off?

Salem 02-19-2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2760312)
It's fashion. Pure and simple.

How would we respond if men all decided that visible labia minora were disgusting and needed to be snipped off?

Well said. And I totally agree. It's unnecessary now. Yes there may be some religious ideals behind it, and in the past it was thought to be medically necessary, but now that we know better, why do we keep doing it?

I think it should be an elective procedure. Like breast implants. Do it only if and when you want to.

filtherton 02-19-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASU2003 (Post 2759312)
I'm too tired to argue against that BS biased study and the lies and agenda it was intended to promote again.

I wrote a whole post about it a few years ago here.

In the interests of teasing a thread jack, it should be pointed out that there are multiple studies, including randomized trials, that support the idea that, at least on a population scale, circumcised men are less likely to get HIV.

Though it should be noted that these studies were carried out in populations with a much greater prevalence of HIV than the U.S. and so the "protection" seen in circumcised men might not amount to much over here.

Given the fact that circumcision doesn't really offer that much protection from HIV, and also that there doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence that circumcision affects transmission rates of other STDs (I'm just assuming here, sue me), using circumcision as part of a personal plan for avoiding STDs while having unprotected sex seems like a bad idea.

lostgirl 02-19-2010 04:14 PM

Having had both, I prefer cut, for aesthetics as well as intercourse. I don't mind uncut, I would never turn someone down because they were uncircumcised.
I do find it difficult to give head to a man that is uncut, I gag on the extra skin. That is something I would prefer not to do.

Daniel_ 02-20-2010 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filtherton (Post 2760341)
In the interests of teasing a thread jack, it should be pointed out that there are multiple studies, including randomized trials, that support the idea that, at least on a population scale, circumcised men are less likely to get HIV.

Though it should be noted that these studies were carried out in populations with a much greater prevalence of HIV than the U.S. and so the "protection" seen in circumcised men might not amount to much over here.

Given the fact that circumcision doesn't really offer that much protection from HIV, and also that there doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence that circumcision affects transmission rates of other STDs (I'm just assuming here, sue me), using circumcision as part of a personal plan for avoiding STDs while having unprotected sex seems like a bad idea.

As far as I'm aware, the studies have been done in sub-Saharan Africa mainly, where circumcision is not randomly applied, but is regional or cultural - therefore it is not possible to be certain that (for example) the group in which uncut men are more common is also more generally promiscuous. I don't know if this is tested, but until it is, it's dangerous to draw conclusions.

james t kirk 02-20-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2760312)
It's fashion. Pure and simple.

How would we respond if men all decided that visible labia minora were disgusting and needed to be snipped off?

Fashion - possibly. But fashion is a big part of life whether we like it or not.

(BTW, I LOVE a prominent labia minora. LOVE IT. But you're kind of comparing apples to oranges now aren't you.)

As far as it goes, I think it (circumcision) is a personal decision and I don't buy into all the hoopla about banning male circumcision or it being a traumatic experience, or mutilation, etc. Hooey.

Strangely though, I find uncut guys much more vocal about the whole issue for some reason.


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