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tintin in the congo
i ran across an article this morning about a lawsuit that was filed in the context of the eu court system by an accountant living in the congo against the publisher of tintin in the congo. the argument is that the comic is racist and that it should not be sold, particularly not in the congo.
this is apparently not a new controversy. here's some stuff from the summer of 2007. Quote:
here's a blog which contains several links to other discussions and some images, if you're interested: blog.rightreading.com Tintin and Racism what do you think about this? do you think that tintin in the congo should be withdrawn because it is a racist text, or are you more inclined to agree with india knight (above) that the racism should not be hidden away, but rather should continue to be available as a point of departure for thinking, maybe, about how such a phenomenon can take shape in a given context, appear to be normal, continue... why? |
I read the book as a child, every French kid loved Tintin.
But I do remember how Africans were portrayed, and if you were to see it you might find it offensive. Some Tintin fans say that it's valuable as a work of fiction because it gives us an insight on how Belgians, and Europeans in general, viewed the rest of the world, especially the colonies. However, just looking at how Africans are drawn in this book does make me quite embarrassed. http://www.lebdvore.com/TINTIN/tintin_au_congo1.jpg |
It sounds like an example of embarrasment - white guilt leading to censorship not because of a desire to protect others from the harm these depictions might cause, but a desire to protect oneself from discomfort. I see no legitimate reason for censorship here.
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I don't either. We learn from our mistakes.
I grew up in a racist society, but as I have aged, I despise racism more and more. |
I don't believe the books should be censored, but I really hate that 'guilt argument' people try to throw around whenever a question of ethical propriety in regards to the history of racism is brought up. Both reactions are, well, reactionary.
More importantly than whether the books are published or not, is whether people (particularly white people in Western society) really, really understand what we did and, in some cases, continue to do to native cultures around the world. Most keenly and notably what we did in the continent of Africa. I think far too many of us do not, making the real offense the fact that so many people will likely pick this book up and never realize the magnitude of horror and injustice it represents. That's my thinking. |
there are few situations more appalling than the adventures of the belgians in the congo. seriously.
the barbarism of that particular colonial period was unparalleled. Belgian Congo | Colonial Genocides | Genocide Studies Program | Yale University estimates of the carnage run up to 10 million: The Butcher of Congo this just to give an idea of the magnitude of what's being referenced here. no more time at the moment... |
...not to mention the part the US played in the Congo Crisis of the early '60's during which time we orchestrated the assassination of their democratically elected president in order to install Joseph Mobutu, who spent the next 30 years pillaging the country's resources while cooperating with US and Belgium corporate interests in exchange for financial aid - which he also kept for himself - while the people of his country starved. Nice.
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To anyone: why was it the europeans who exploited the africans and not the africans exploiting the europeans?
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Technological imbalance and imbalance in the power of nation-states versus tribes.
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its certainly racist to modern eyes, but it shouldnt be censored and selling it shouldnt be a crime.
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As far as nation-states vs tribes, are you talking about a numerical superiority of the former or something else? |
I loved tintin books when I was a kid. This is hardly a case for banning, IMO.
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Because instead of saying, "Oh those poor people" or "Oh those mean people" I find underlying issues more interesting. And there are always underlying issues. I'm not referring to racial superiority or any of that nonsense, I'm talking about tactics. For example, in a boxing match you have 2 fighters, of the same weight, strength and aggressiveness, each bent on subduing the other through physical violence. Yet one wins, one loses...and there are concrete, objective reasons for it (better jab, quicker feet, more effective combinations, better defense). This is what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if nationstates or technical superiority had anything to do with it. The American Indian had access to rifles, and fought with just as much if not more ferocity and cunning than white men. They also, like the Africans, had superior knowledge of the local environment. Yet both lost to an outside force and I like to understand the reasons why.
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It is not surprising that most of the major colonizers were also some of the first places to be organized as a nation state, like Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium and the United Kingdom. |
Well, I can think dippin for covering the major territory and only add that the major reason for conquest was, of course, almost inconceivable wealth in the form of resources - human and otherwise.
Does might make right? |
shoot, the next thing ya know, little black sambo will be racist..
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Re: powerclown: I'd lay down a viewpoint similar to that expressed herein:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29.../b054PB_lg.jpg Re: the OP - I don't think that censorship is the way to go, any more than I agree with Bill Cosby holding on to the rights to "Song of the South" and refusing to let it be seen. That said, I understand the aversion to some of the messages, and the desire to not be exposed to it. |
It should also be remembered, when discussing Africa, that many African tribes worked with the Europeans to exploit other Africans. The slave trade made many black Africans quite wealthy.
This is not to downplay the involvement of the Eurpoeans in this system but rather point out that it is more complicated than it is usually portrayed (things usually are). |
To me, the whole reason why they lost and Europe won is simply this:
Rome clearly demonstrated that you need a well organised big country that can mobilise big groups to fight in tactics. After Rome crumbled, all European countries remembered the lesson well. Before, they fought in loose tribes, duels or free-for-all fights. After, they attacked in regiments. Africa to my knowledge, did not have this "lesson" drilled into them. They remained organised in tribes, and like Charlatan points out: if you have different tribes, you can use them against eachother easily. Dippin: major colonizers had nothing to do with if they were early organised as a nation state. In fact Belgium didn't exist till 1830. Well into colonisation already. Major colonizers had more to do with if they had a good naval force. As far as the comic goes: it's definitly racist, it definitly should be kept in sight, to remember what was. If fact, Hergé himself underwent a change in his views after a while. He didn't call for a ban on his own work. |
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Nation states were crucial for colonization. Even your example, Belgium only started with colonization after being organized as a nation state. It stands to reason that the earliest a territory organized itself as a nation, the bigger the headstart in colonization (and it's interesting to note the impact that colonization and imperialism had on WWI and the alliances formed then). Portugal, Spain, France and England were the main colonizers, and all organized as nation states before 1500. |
GGS: a great read, some very interesting points are brought up and I enjoyed reading it but I had some issues with it, mainly that you can't blame environment/geography for shaping the course of history. Too politically correct, too marxist, not enough credit given to individual qualities such as intelligence and ingenuity. Written by an academic to impress other academics. I enjoyed Steven Pinker's 'Blank Slate' which I think is more pertinent with this. Also regarding the pre-eminence of nationstates in warfare, I would point out the adventures of Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun, both of who led devastatingly effective tribal armies. Genghis Khan 'colonized' just about everything west of China into central Europe, while Roma also was sacked by nomadic tribes.
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there's no way around the importance of the modern nation-state in all this, if only because it centralized tax gathering which enabled expansions of military forces (creation of standing armies, technological developments--all that)...you also can't get around the development of capitalist-style industry and it's requirements for raw materials (the primary driver of the real horror in the congo was rubber and the expanding requirements for it that attended technological developments---sorry to be so abstract about it, but we're talking general processes and there we are).
a professionalized heavily armed european style military operates on a different rationality than most of what they encountered as they plowed through africa. which isn't to say that the european militaries had an easy time of it. they didn't: but they really weren't concerned with such nicities as playing by any rules of war. this is one area where the equation of civilization and europe really does end up being a matter of who has the larger metal toys and--more importantly--which story your thinking in terms of when you make judgments like who is and is not civilized. if i have some time, i'll hunt up a pretty big collection of stories gathered from the congo in the late 19th-early 20th century about the arrival of the belgians as understood from various viewpoints (which are in general congolese because of the result of this...but the groups were themselves quite different one from the other). these make the last point i'm making pretty obvious: the europeans were not playing by the same rules as were assumed to be in place amongst the people they encountered and massacred in very significant numbers. limits on conduct for example that were assumed the europeans didn't know about and did not adhere to, particularly not in the earlier periods (its more complicated than this, really...for example missionaries were not of one mind, colonial administrators were not of one mind, etc etc etc) this is an area where racism and christianity converged with military organization and technology in order to make wholesale massacre not particularly a problem. [[[edit, a bit later on...i found the collection of statements i was looking for, but i forgot along the way that the text is in french and not translated so far as i know. but if you read french, this is really interesting stuff: http://www.aequatoria.be/archives_pr...h/EGindex.html the only english bits that i found translate the title on the opening page. i could be wrong about the extent of it though, but i don't think i am.]]] anyway, it makes little sense to try to separate these processes from the history of the 19th century. and i remain a bit mystified by what powerclown is actually asking about, but it's getting clearer. maybe. |
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I'm against the banning of books, especially one like this. You get to learn from this.
Though if I were African and seeing my ancestors depicted in this way, I don't know how I'd feel. My ancestors in comics are the Asterix guys. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...z/asterix1.jpg |
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