Prostitution : Your thoughts?
 

why is it illegal (except nevada)? i dont see any reason it should be.

this is just another attempt by our govt to play moral police for us. if somebody wants to pay $$ to f*** somebody and that somebody is agreeing to this, it's their business!

on the plus side, if it was legalized, it could be taxed! there are a whole bunch of people already engaging in this and this is more money for the govt!

if legalized, the industry could also be regulated.

anyways, what are your thoughts.

It's completely legal over here, and taxed. I think it's an important part of society, and although it's not for me, there are plenty of men out there that feel it makes their lives better.

If it's not hurting anyone, and both parties are consentual, then why the heck ban it?

If we've got strippers we might as well take it all the way I suppose. Regulate it and it would lower the health risks. All or nothing.

I think a law got passed here making prostitution legal... I don't care either way, it doesn't affect me in any way.

it's the same thing with pot. The govt could tax on pot. Everything's health risks though. Bleedin shit.

bah. the world's oldest profession will always be around. i have no desire to partake in it, but i know it's out there... the only reason it's illegal is because of the so-called "moral police" - a government run by people who govern by their religious beleifs. as long as this is the case, america will forever ban this and other "immoral" acts.

if they legalised it, it'd be probably safer than is atm. Like in some parts of europe, they have sophisticated systems with brothels so that it's less violence, less std's...and it may also solve problems we have now like child prostitution...and it can be taxed heavily like cigs and earn the gov a bunch of money...I say, if it's done right, why the hell not.

Well, that, and the fact that most prostitutes are virtual slaves to their pimps who get them hooked on drugs, use and abuse them, beat the shit out of them, and sometimes kill them. Pimps tend to prey on young naive girls who don't really know what they're getting into.

The whole point of America is that it is a government of the people. I may have read more into your post than was intended, but by the way it was worded (and the quotes), I got the impression that you think this is a bad thing. I respectfully disagree. Most Americans have religious beliefs that help to serve as a moral compass. And the whole point of democracy is that majority rules. Not "Let's accomodate every splinter and fringe group with another weird idea of how things should be". That's PETA thinking. The majority of Nevada residents thought prostitution should be legal (apparently), so it's legal there. Every community sets its own standards for how life should be (ideally).

I think you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want. If you want to sell your body, then more power to you. At least you are guaranteed a job in this economy.

I am too squeemish to ever pay for a prostitutes services, but I think other people should be allowed to make that decision for themselves.

I dont agree with it but legalizing it might stop future sex offenders from becoming rapists. I wonder if someone has done some statistics on that.

I don't have the numbers or a link off hand but I read somewhere that with gambling/prostitution there is often a significant rise in crime.

I think both the legalization of marijuana and prostitution. People are going to do it anyway. Mise well let uncle same tax it and regulate it (ie health standards etc for prostitutes etc..)...

Don't see why it should be illegal. Sex is legal right? It's a service, providing something LEGAL. If people are willing to pay for it, why not have it legal and run properly?

Prostitution is legal here, but solicitation is illegal.

In other words, having a call girl come to your hotel in Toronto is perfectly legal provided she doesn't make any telephone call in public and neither do you.

A girl selling sex in public is illegal.

A brothel is illegal and so are girls who work out of their homes (incalls)

The truth of the matter is that as long as no-one is under age or hurting anyone, the cops tend to not bother. Every once in a while though, they have a little fun and bust some johns on the street though.

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Re: Prostitution : Your thoughts?
 

agreed. is just silly.

legalise it, regulate it, make sure there are health standards and such, and most importantly make sure no one is either under 18 or being hurt/victimised/whatever/etc.
should be easier to do that if it were legal.

I think this is a bit of an over-simplification. I don't think democracy exists to accommodate every splinter group or opinion, but neither does it exist to serve the will of the majority. You could probably safel say that the whole point of democracy is majority rules except where the majority view would infringe upon the basic rights of others. I guess the question is whether the majority opinion against legalized prostitution infringes on anybody's basic rights - say, the right of a woman to do whatever she wants with her own body.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove that point right now, in the U.S. at least, because it's so politically unpopular. I personally think legalization would be the first step toward regulation and making the "industry" safer and more self-determining for the women who participate, but you're not going to slip that past the opponents who see it as a fundamental blow against the institution of family. Phooey.

Kirk beat me to it but yes prostitution is legal in Canada. I see no reason for it to be illegal.

What should be illegal is pimping. This is where the majority of the problems come from.

The other problem is street hooking. This is a nasty scene that has a very low threshold for entry and is frequently associated with hard-core drug use and pimping (read: exploitation and abuse of women).

i remember reading Heinlein's Glory Road
(fantasy novel based in earth in the fifties mostly)

the most remarkable thing that struck me in that book is that out of umpteen millions of humanoid parallel universes- ours was the only one to have prostitutes.

okay- i am aware that it's a fictional source, but it made me curious as to why there is a need to have prostitutes.

don't get me wrong. i support prostitution in a general, wishy-washy "as long as it's not hurting anyone" sense.
and i believe that many (not all!) women think of sex as a currency to get the things they want... but why is this so?!

if it was legalized, we could prolly get rid of the pimps.

women can pimp for themselves in the open (or at brothels, where it could be regulated).

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and the bill of rights was written to protect minorities from being trampled over by majorities

I think marriage is a higher form of prostitution. You buying your wife gifts and other crap on the off chance of getting laid.

This is why I go to the massage parlor.


Get me a little something extra.

In Canada, as Kirk and Charlatan said, it is sollicitation of sex that is illegal, not prostitution itself. However, both outcalls and incalls are legal in Montreal (we are Sin City, after all). Also, a lot of "erotic salons" that offer "massages" and "haicuts" also dabble in prostitution, but I don't think this is legal. These places are just waiting to be busted, but then again that's what bribes and perks are for. Ahh, the Police Vice Squad...

As the great and wise George Carlin once said: "Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal?!"

If pot becomes decriminalised across the board in Canada, then marijuana, prostitution and gay marriage would be accessible to all in this country. Who needs Europe? Come to Canada!

Anyone here ever watch "Cops" on TV? Some of the episodes they will have a whole squad of officers (5 or 6) spend their whole day making prostitution busts. What a total freaking waste of time! They just harass the hookers and embarass the johns, with absolutely no benefit to society that I can see.

There are much more important duties they could be filling. Seen the murder rate in LA this year? How bout the fact that a truck full of 100 illegal Mexicans can come across the border totally undetected (I am referring to the tragic incident where 18 died in the heat)? Maybe all the cops busy shaking down johns could be doing something useful about the real problems. Next time instead of 100 Mexicans that truck might have 50 Arab terrorists and 50 suicide bomb vests......

I look at it this way:

First date with a young lady includes dinner,drinks and conversation: $150.00 and a good night call me again

Second date with the same girl: Dinner,dancing,drinks $175.00 and then she says let be friends when you make your move.

Total $325.00


Escort Service: No real conversation if you don't wish to just SEX and a goodbye $250.00 to $350.00

Massage parlor: $50.00 for the massage and then she leans over and say's "what you want" another $50.00 to $75.00 for what you want.

Hmmmmmmmm.....Lets see...should I go out on a couple of dates and waste my cash on a possible nightmare (if any of you remember my last experience I posted:lol: ) or shall I go get what I was after in the first place with no hassle??

Legalize it is my answer.....shit in Lost Angeles most of the girls out here just want a guy with loads of cash anyway so it's the same thing in my book.

EXACTLY! :mad: and then they act like they've just nailed the single most dangerous man in the city.

"We did some good work out there today...." yeah, you busted a a handful of guys who have to sneak around and pay for sex. :rolleyes:

Don't bother catching the guy who's been breaking into houses in my neighborhood; I'd rather you catch the speeders and bust the hookers.....that'll make me feel safe, numbnuts

As far as I'm concerned, we should just leave the hookers and the johns alone and let them do what they want. If they catch diseases, then they get what they deserve.

It's one of those things that society shouldn't even get involved with. Basically, it's illegal because a bunch of religious law makers didn't want their own kids growing up and going that direction with their lives, and they knew they hadn't taught their kids the Bible well enough to convince them not to do it. Instead of doing a better job teaching their religious beliefs, they simply write laws to try to control their children and the rest of society.

Personally, I'd never go to a prostitue, but if someone else does, then they'll have to pay for it someday, somehow.

Exactly what came to my mind while reading this thread. He also asked "why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away."

These people can do whatever sick twisted things they want to do and live out their horny little fantasies. All I ask is that they stay the hell away from my family and myself.

I hope I don't offend anyone, especially those that partake in paid sexual acts with other people. I feel that what they are doing is morally wrong. Don't they care about diseases and the crime that can most definitely come from having pimp daddies and the like?

Maybe it's a great way to get paid a shitload of cash real fast but why would someone sell their body out like that when they could easily find someone who will treat their body with respect as they should be doing.

One night of passion with some sleeze that turns you out is not worth risking your health, morals, self image, or life for.

how can it be illegal to sell somthing that is perfectly legal to give away?

I say bring on the legalization! Freedom to do whatever you want with your body, including profit from it. Professional athletes profit from their bodies (in a way), strippers profit from their bodies; so why can't so inclined people profit from their bodies for sex?

Just doesn't seem right.

But if it were legalised, this type of thing wouldn't happen. It would be regulated like any other industry.

But is the majority always right? Democracy is based on debate. Using the majority argument is NOT good reasoning, it hinges on faulty logic. the whole point of a debate is to (should be) allow people to make more informed decisions, and possibly CHANGE what the "majority" believes.

To illustrate my point, I will use an analogy: Do you think that the top 10 chart music singles represent the BEST music, currently available? Is the majority "right" in this case?

Note: I am not against democracy. It has many flaws, but it is by far the best system of government that we have yet to come up with.

I think that alot of people suffer from closed minds on this type of topic. They follow the following sort of logic: I don't want it, therefore nobody should have it.
Personally, I would NEVER go to a prostitute, but I see no reason why someone else should not be allowed make up their own mind!
Similarly, I have no desire to smoke marijuana, but I believe that that is my own damn choice, nobody elses!

And from a purely pragmatic point of view, people are going to do it anyway (marijuana included) why not have it regulated, safe and taxed At least we could make some money from it! Plus it would reduce crime. At the moment it is only criminals who are making money from these highly profiecient industries!

In my country (the Netherlands) prostitution is perfectly legal and I see no reason why it shouldn't be. I'll bet you every single one of you has heard of the Red Light district in Amsterdam.

Both the prostitute as well as the client are doing this completely out of their free will. No one is forcing them to. If a prostitute is forced to be a prostitute, she shouldn't be the one that gets punished. It should be the person forcing her.

The prostitutes make a heck of a lot of money and mostly they chose to do it to get them through college. These prostitutes actually pay income tax and are obligated also to pay Value Added Taxes. So, the government is profiting from it also.

i dont think legalizing this has even come up in discussion in our legislatures.

Well, my country is pretty progressive about quite a number of issues America isn't ready for yet.

This is not meant as a flame towards Americans by the way, please don't take it the wrong way.

i completely understand.

isnt assissted suicide and gay marriages also legalized there ?



one day, it'll be legalized here too, but not yet

Assisted Suicide, or as we call it Euthanasia, is indeed perfecty legal. However, the person requesting it should be fully sane. Also as stated, an euthanasia request should only be fulfilled if: "there is no quality of life" for the person. Which is very subjective of course. But mainly it is viewed as having a form of cancer (or any disease) that can not be cured.

The Gay marriage is just the same as a heterosexual marriage and gay people are also allowed to adopt children.

I have read in this thread that some people want Marihuana legalized. Many people think Marihuana is legal in Amsterdam. Well it is not. But our government has chosen to tolerate it. Which in practice means, you are not allowed to grow it. You are not allowed to sell it. Unless you're a "coffeeshop". Coffeeshops should fulfill some legal requirements though. But you are allowed to smoke up.

Also some sorts of hard drugs are tolerated. Like XTC. Not officially. But I don't know any cops that will take you down for it. However, the U.S. government is pressing hard for stronger enforcement on XTC because 90% of the worlds XTC supply comes from Holland. And it seems it is your primary import from the Netherlands.

I doubt i will ever see the day in which pot, prostitution, or gay marriages are legal in the US of A.

It's just too damn conservative. That puritan thing still runs strong (puritans = religious whackos the British wanted rid of.)

I am all for Gay marriages, it only means more work for the lawyers when they all get divorced.

Toronto as of a few weeks ago is allowing gay marriages and I say fine by me.

That's one way for the tourism industry to bounce back after SARS.

As to those who argue that prostitutes are disease carrying whores, I beg to differ. 90 percent of prostitutes insist on condom usage, and you would be a fool not to use one at all times.

Nick Nolte was once interviewed in Playboy and at one time he lived over top of a bordello in Mexico but never caught a thing, yet one time he fucked a miss america entrant and caught a sexually transmitted disease.

I guess my point is that you can catch an STD if you engage in unprotected sex whether with a prostitute, or a regular girl with whom you have gotten lucky.

I generally adopt a open mind on the issue. If she is over 18 and willing to sell her sex for money, so be it, it's not for me to judge.

I also agree with those cop shows being a complete joke. Every time you turn around they are busting some poor hooker or harassing her customers. Give me a break. Shouldn't those useless cops have something better to do, like catch a terrorist or something.

Rapists don't rape for sex. They rape for power, control, degradation. Sex is just a means to these ends.

And for you morals police out there, why do you sully yourselves with the likes of us?

My thoughts exactly. Thank you for articulating this! I wonder sometimes how people who come to a board whose purpose is the "evolution of humanity, *sexuality*, and philosophy can be so durned closed-minded sometimes.

Most people agree pretty much that if two consenting adults are doing something that's not hurting anybody, they should be left alone. The problem is people who argue that things like prostitution, smoking marijuana, homosexuality somehow "damage our society". They point to crime (if drugs and sex were legal they would be regulated and probably wouldn't attract the fringe crimes that they do now), moral decline (puh-leeze), and "won't somebody please think of the children!?". I guess it is a values question - I value tolerance and freedom more than I value conformity and security. I enjoy being surrounded by people who are different than I am, who think and act differently, and I think our society would be a lot MORE moral if we all extended just a bit of compassion and understanding and quit getting so damned uptight about everything.

/soapbox

<b>Exactly</b> my thoughts. I couldn't agree with you more.

While I <b>like</b> when people agree with me, I tend to learn more from those with opposing viewpoints.

after calling my mother who is a psychologist who treats sex offenders in prison, i can say that is completely untrue.

also, while i am not morally against prostitution, i do have concerns over how it could be enacted safely and responsibly regulated. it's not quite as easy as "oh, wear a condom".

Lurkette & Bill O' Rights, we are on the same page.

My problem, and it's big one, is with those that would come to these boards and lacking clear, concrete arguments for their positions, fall back on rhetoric and dogma and worse, start slinging words like *homo* around.

Bring on the opposing viewpoints, but please articulate them in a way that you do not belittle those that may have a different lifestyle than you. It makes you sound extremely narrow minded.

Most experts would point out that rape is about power and not sexual gratification.

Show me a wealthy older guy in a flash car . . and I will show you his cute, curvy pretty girlfriend!

Maybe if females stopped using their sexuality as a form of currency . . . . . . . . . . . ? Pretty girls dont need qualifications or high-flying careers if they are drop dead gorgeous. An 18 year old with big boobs and a killer smile can wrap a 50 year-ld captain of industry around her little finger.

So lets face it . . if you are an ugly guy with a bit of cash its the only way you are ever going to get close to a total babe . . . . . you see the 'nice' girls ignoring you and holding out for a rich handsome guy and you think "fuck this, I 'm just going to pay for it!" . . . . . . . . . . . . so everyone who is against it should stop 'moralising' . . .its a double-edged sword.

Funny how a rise in crime happens when something illegal moves in.

The solution, make it legal and regulate/tax the shit out of it. The associated crime should decrease. Example: Nevada where the counties that have legal brothels have very low crime rates.

Look what happened during prohibition. Made something common illegal, crime goes through the roof. Unfortunatly when alcohol became legal again, organized crime was already well established and it took decades to get it under control. Especially since the organized crime moved to exploiting other criminalized victimless activities like drugs and prostitution.

Okay, this kind of statement makes me wonder what century you are living in.

Since looks are subjective, we'll just make ballpark generalizations.
Percentage-wise, how many women are drop-dead gorgeous???

Subjectively, maybe 50% of women are average-looking, 20% in the pretty range, 20% in the less than average range, 5% ugly, 5% drop-dead gorgeous.

Why even bother making a statement that applies to at most, 5% of females?

Government regulation has worked out so well in all other industries the government regulates. Amtrak is doing so fabulously well, Enron, the California power generation industry, military contractors, etc.

Define faulty logic.

You seem to be assuming that:

1. This has never before been debated in the history of the U.S.
2. That just because the majority doesn't agree with you they must somehow be wrong.
3. What are elections and lawmaking all about if not majority rules? Everything gets voted on. The majority wins.
4. Has it ever occurred to you that anti-drug and prostitution laws are made by people who are older than yourself, have "been there, done that", and know the pain and suffering a really bad decision can bring?

Prostitution is a victimless act (I refuse to call it a "victimless crime"). No one is getting hurt, someone just wants to have fun and pay for it. People go to amusement parks, don't they? :D

there is a big difference between regulating and actually running an industry (like amtrack or usps)

matter of fact, govt regulates many industries.

banking (sets the reserve ratio, interest rates etc..)
look @ the fed bureaucracy! their purpose is to regulate!

Ummm paying for it is kind of the point. :)

I don't understand this point of view. You would never go to a prostitute. Great! Fine. No problem.

I don't get the position that they will "pay for it".
Is it disease? Hell unpaid for sex can result in disease.
Is it my morality? I don't see what this has to do with anything. If I am seeing a prostitute I'm OK with it in the first place.

Sex is sex. I think one of the main problems people who have a problem with prostitution have is that they equate the emotional attachment of sex with a loved one with the physical act of sex in general. Sometimes I don't want to make love I just want to fuck.

Someone once said that those who pay for sex are actually paying for the woman to leave. A bit crass perhaps but for many not far from the truth. All they want is the sex.

That said I know a number of men that visit prostitutes who are better off for the "relationships" they have with their regular. For whatever the reason (weight, personality, etc.) they don't or can't have a regular relationship with women. This is their only outlet for sex and (quite frequently) contact with women.

Another interesting thought... women who sell their bodies for sex aren't (neccessarily) being exploited. If you want to see exploitation try visiting a sweatshop where women are making less than $5 an hour. Prostitutes make good money.

Ive been on dates that ended with me thinking that I would have been better off hiring a professional. If there was a way to regulate regular STD testing (kind of like health care workers having to undergoing HIV testing if they get stuck) it shouldnt be an issue. In the US the freedom to live in communities like the Amish exsists.

Along those same lines should there be any laws against having multiple wives, or husbands? Or a few other things I wont mention.

Actually, the US is NOT a democracy, despite what your teachers told you. We are a democratic republic. Our founding fathers where very carefull to create a constitution designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. The rule of law is there to protect the innocent. It should not be used to protect us from ourselves. We have the right to "pursue happiness" and if two people think it will make them happy to participate in a financial sexual arrangement, then they should be allowed too. Whether it actually makes them happy or not is irrelevent.

even though i don't endulge in it, i agree that it should be legal and taxed along with marijuana. if people are gonna do it no matter what, they should at least make some money off of it. it's a huge market. besides, people like to do illegal things for that risk factor. making certain things legal would probably drive the rates of occurance down a whole lot.

morality should be a choice not a legal requirement...

That does not add up - AMS (Amsterdam ) should then have more crime than most. Same should be true of London,Praha,Frankfurt....

Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. So, why isn't selling fucking legal?

I suppose that it makes sense that prostitution is illegal in most areas of the US, because the majority of lawmakers is opposed to it. What I don't understand is <i>why</i> they are opposed to it. If it's a religious stance, whatever happened to separation of church and state? If it's a moral stance, I don't particularly see the moral dillema of sex as a business. Hell, sexuality is like THE American business. Sex sells and is sold everywhere. Except the act of sex itself, which is still sold, but illegally.

With something like this, where the impact to people not involved is nil, I do not see the problem with it. Legalization would reduce the negative aspects of this business. Of course, I also think that legalized drugs would improve the drug situation since it would basically eliminate any sort of black market activities related to drugs and drug related violence. People on drugs can still be a threat to society though, so obviously, that would not be as safe, overall, as legalized prostitution. Still, my point is that, even though I don't use non-medical drugs and don't engage in prostitution, I can see no good reason to outlaw prostitution and a few benefits of legalization.

In reponse to:

I am beginning to believe...

In response to your question: "Why prostitution?" Well, people want sex. Unfortunately, there are not always people who will have sex with them for free, so, depending on how much they want sex, they value sex at some value. If they can get sex for less than this value, they will. Prostitution is just the economic market for sex. There is also a more concealed market, that of dating. For some people, not everyone mind you, just those looking for sex, not really an emotional relationship, a relationship is just a means to get sex. A relationship has some cost in terms of financial and time investments. This is just the same as prostitution, only less obvious and much less illegal.

In response to LittleOralAnnie (no offense intended, you seem like a nice person, but I think we differ ideologically)

I do not think that everyone who goes to a prostitute does sick and twisted things to live out their horny little fantasies. From your post, I gather you have a lot of disdain for people who engage in prostitution. Obviously, you view sex in a much different way then they do. This does not make either of you wrong, however, as that seems to just be a matter of perspective/opinion. The reason that you have your opinion may be suspect. You may wish to carefully analyze why this is.


You see what they do as morally wrong. You don't offer a whole lot of explanation as to why you see it that way, unless that's what the third sentance is about. But I fail to see how diseases and morality relate. Nor do I see how the law and morality relate, besides that the law is generally instituted in order to create a more moral society. Crime, in itself, is not immoral. And as for any negative moral implications of pimp daddies, they are not necessary, I should think, especially with legalized prostitution. If necessary, THEY could be outlawed. Still, I see no reason to outlaw prostitution.


It certainly seems that it is mainly desparate women who are engaging in the selling side of prostitution, but it is their choice. I do not think they get paid a shitload of cash real fast, because if they did, and if it was as truly despicable as you portray it, I should think that all the women would quit pretty fast and go get more enjoyable jobs. But what if the women enjoy sex, and prostitution (hypothetically). Is it wrong to get paid to do something you enjoy? Perhaps they would rather have money than respect. Perhaps they don't value respect. Perhaps they don't see it as selling their body, but simply as a service industry that they have no objections to working in.


Well, I think the health and life risking could be eliminated with proper govermental controls, certification, and legalization. As for morals, I still don't see the moral base for making prostitution illegal. Self image sounds like more of a personal problem to me, and I think that if prostitution affects your self image, that is your business.

Counter arguments welcome.

Nyenrodian: I am liking your country better already :)

I have often wondered what is involved with moving to another country. Another day and another thread, perhaps.

Hm.. Well here in sweden we are a little backwards i think... it is perfectly legal to sell sex.. but it is striclty illegal to buy sex.. Hehe... That is base on the idea that the prostitutes are victims being abused and the johns are rapists and murderers.. Hmm.. don't ask me.. i don't know where that idea comes from.

In my opinion: LEGALIZE IT! That is the only way to make it safe..
It is always going to exist so why the he** try to illegalize it?
No matter how disgusting/perverse/morraly wrong/sinfull we think it is it will always exist as it has always existed..
To some sex is currency (not only prostitutes) and that means it has a marketvalue, if it has a value someone want's to sell to gain profit and someone want's to pay for the pleasure.

'nuf said.

*shrug* I'd never go for it. I'm not into casual sex, didn't even troll for tail at bars when I was single. I do think it shouldn't really be a crime, being inherently victimless (unless you count the prostitute, and that is usually because of the circumstances surrounding the prohibition on prostitution).

Beware the law of unintended consequences.

That's a law now?

Seriously though, what do you mean?

prostitution has brought us many things like the spread of STDs and the word FUCK

did you know fuck is an accronym for

Fornication under concent of the King

used to be posted back in the old country above the doors of prostitution houses.

I'm undecided on the issues there are a lot of things i disagree with that go on in and around areas that involve prostitution. However the act itself I have no problem with.

Looking at the big picture though i do think the laws are in the right place.

Although this thread seems to have died down, I thought this might reinvigorate it. Any thoughts?

The government already does make money off of Prostitution. It's a neverending cycle. There are busts all the time where they take the prostitutes in, fine them, and send them back out to the streets to do their jobs. Maybe a month later they'll do another bust and so on....

Sorry I just don;t agree that it doesn't hurt any one. Ask any forum memeber if they would want their child prostitutng for a living and you will get a (virtually unanamous)"NO"

The fact is simply that prostitution is the most debasing and menial work a person can do. Most prostitutes are degraded by their customers on a regular basis. No one should be subject to that.

Just one man's opinion....

Vermin makes the most powerful point here.

If it was a legal buisness you wouldn't have the pimp problem. Keeping it illegal helps the pimps just like the "war on drugs" keeps the drug dealers in buisness.

prostitution vs porno
 

People get paid in the porn industry, people get paid in the prostitution "industry". The only reason I call it "industry" is people make a living doing this. They are the same thing in my eyes, but I have a cataract.

It's legal here, I don't see any problem with it, it takes a certain type of person to become a prostitute, and another type to visit one - so I don't think it's responsible for any moral breakdowns in society.

Wasn't it Madison who was afraid of appeasing the masses? Just because a majority thinks something in a democracy doesn't neccesarily mean that should be the law. Obviously we have regulations and systems to protect minority "fringe groups" for this very reason. Otherwise by this logic, as long as a majority of people thought it was okay to enslave others, then it would be legally justifiable. However this alientates natural rights and a whole mess of complicated things ;) I'm not trying to compare this to whether or not a community bans prostitution because of their moral beliefs, but I'm trying to make an argument against the general principle of what you're saying.

Jefferson claimed that the purpose of the government was to make roads and deliver the mail (loose quote). IE, moral issues were taken care of inside the household, but it wasn't the place of the government to worry itself in those kinds of affairs.

I have used prostitutes in the past when I was going through a girlfriend drought and didn't want to go through the bs of a relationship just to get sex. I exchanged money for a service, and it was over. We all pay for sex in one way or another (either through dates, emotionally, etc.). I see no problem with it being regulated. In fact, it might help to take the people who prey on young girls naivete (i.e. pimps) out of their lives.

You know it's weird. I am completely grossed out by the thought of paying a prostitute for sex, but have no problems if someone else wants to do that.

In fact I've often thought about attempting to collect money from some of the less attractive women who've approached me. Simply pop a viagra and get paid... -What a dream job.

I wouldnt personally pay for sex but I can see why some people do, and surely if the government made it legal then they would have some protection. Its the same as selling any other good or service, they need trading standards etc.

Rape has nothing to do with sex, it's all about power. legalizing prostitution wouldn't do it a bit of good.

I don't see how consentual sex can be made illegal if not done involving minors. It's stupid IMHO and kinda done just to be "moral". As long as the RULES of prostitution are enforced, I wouldn't think anything would go wrong with it legalized.

legalize it, its just another thing for people to spend their money on :D

How many women sell themselves for jewelry, furs, shoes, etc.

I'd like to see it legalized, taxed and inspected (health wise). :thumbsup:

The great Prostitution debate
 

Question:
Prostitution, should it be legalized?

My Answer:
How the fuck can it be illegal to sell something, that is perfectly legal to give away?

It should be legalized, period. It would be safer for everyone involved. The girls (and boys) would
Have better working environments, heath care, and regular testing for STD’s.
I think the number of violent crimes would decrease throughout the country, as would the consent burden
On the tax payer to cover the costs of policing sex operations and trials.

What are your thoughts?

Why not? Those are my thoughts on it.

All these responces for making it legal........ but no one responding says they would go see one.... the poor girls would all go broke. I read most of the responces and most of them were basically. I'm all for it being legal, but I would never go to one..... Are we all just lying to ourselves about wanting it to be legal so we can sound like we are cool and open minded??? Or are we all lying about the fact that we wouldn't or haven't went to one????? I am 37 now and I'll be the first one to tell you that 20 years ago I purchased the services of a young lady.... It was the quickest 20 bucks she ever made..... hahaha

I know I'm stating the obvious here, but, with a few exceptions, posters here are in favor of legalization. However, the posters here are certainly not a representative cross section of society. (Most came here for the titty boards, after all.) I know far too many soccer-mom types that would not and could not bear such a thing, and likely would not listen to, nor likely comprehend logical arguments for legalization. This gets to the root of this debate. They are the majority, and as long as that is the case, no politician is going to stand up and of his free will sponsor a bill to change the laws in place that forbid marijuana, prostitution, sodomy, gay marriage, or anything else that would not be appreciated by those same soccer-moms. Until the political climate is such that someone wanting to change these laws would be brave, and not foolish, I doubt that any discussion of these issues is "ripe."
Coincidently, this post could also go on the thread about what views of yours have changed, found in politics. My feelings on these type of issues have changed, but I think that a more permissive view is actually more philosophically conservative.

The 'ol rub and tug, huh WK.... ;)

mmmmmm legalised prostitution

it's not that most people would ever wanna sleep with one, it's knowing that you COULD if you wanted to.

im for making it legal with strict regulations


i still wont patronize them...unless im really drunk

I believe they call it the "Happy Ending"

i thought the original point was that government should not be involved in ones "morality." Quickly followed by "legalize it, regulate it, and tax it. If ones moral attitude is unsafe, perhaps they should reconsider what they engage in, and not rely on the government to make their morality safe.

I feel the same. It is too risky to go to a prostitute nowdays and mandatory testing needs to be in effect. A condom will NOT protect you from crabs and several other diseases. You have to get up close. You really need a body condom if you visit a prostitute.