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jorgelito 08-10-2008 05:00 PM

Olympic Tracker - Coverage of the Games
 
So, it's Day 3. Here's a Day 2 Wrap up.

Some highlights:

1. Team USA swept the medals in Women's Sabre - Fencing for some serious swashbuckling.

2. The first African won a medal when Kirsty Coventry won a silver medal in the Women's 400m Medley for Zimbabwe. I wonder how she will be received back in Zimbabwe. Will Mugabe "honour" her?

3. China is choking already. The first medal to be lost by Du Li in Women's Rifle on the first day. She was the heavy favorite to win gold but choked and came in 5th instead. Seems like there is an awful lot of pressure on the Chinese athletes with so much riding on these games for them. I kind of feel sorry for them a bit.

4. Michael Phelps is just magnificent. 1 down, 7 to go. Apparently the Water Cube is a "fast pool" and records are being broken at a, well, record pace. Will Team France give Team USA its comeuppance? I like that the French called out the USA. Makes it more fun.

5. I like it when "smaller" or lesser known/popular countries win. It's always fun to root them on.

Thailand won a gold - women's weightlifting
Taiwan won a bronze
Korea is powering through with 5 or so medals. 3rd in medal count
Algeria got a bronze in Women's Judo
Zimbabwe
Uzbekistan
North Korea

6. Touching moment - Russian and Georgian medalists hugging each other on the medal stand. Russia, Georgia medalists embrace despite conflict - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports

What you? Anything catch your eye or touch your heart these past few days? Any events or teams that you are particularly interested in?

yellowmac 08-10-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2504690)
3. China is choking already. The first medal to be lost by Du Li in Women's Rifle on the first day. She was the heavy favorite to win gold but choked and came in 5th instead. Seems like there is an awful lot of pressure on the Chinese athletes with so much riding on these games for them. I kind of feel sorry for them a bit.

Er... well... they're kicking ass in gold medals won (6 as of now), and they're tied with the US for most medals right now, so I don't really expect this juggernaut to be dying down soon. I do feel bad for all of the pressure and high expectations that the public and media are setting for them, but at the same time, I think the thrill of playing in front of the home crowd will even this out. There definitely is a "home country" advantage in the Olympics, it seens.

I really enjoyed the US vs. China basketball game. It was really fun to watch the highlight factory created by the Redeem Team.

Also, this picture:

http://deadspin.com/assets/images/de...wards_bush.jpg

The_Dunedan 08-10-2008 06:35 PM

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Team USA swept the medals in Women's Sabre - Fencing for some serious swashbuckling.
And this is quite a thing. Women's sabre has only been in the Olympics for four years, and prior to 2004 the United States had not won a Gold medal in any Fencing discipline for more than 100 years. For the U.S. to "bracket" this event in 2004 and sweep it in 2008 is nothing short of incredible.

Bear Cub 08-10-2008 07:17 PM

To say that Du Li "choked" in women's air rifle is kind of a joke. She shot a 399 out of 400 going into the final. You needed a 397 just to make the final. She did drop an uncharacteristic 2 points in the final, but that was moot anyways. Katerina Emmons shot a perfect 400/400 and won the final with a 103.5. Nobody else stood a chance.

To even call Du Li a favorite going in is kind of a wash as well. There have been people at the collegiate level to shoot 400/400 air scores. Yes, it's a world class score, but many of the female competitors were capable of or have shot those scores, including Jamie Beyerle and Emily Caruso, both of whom I am friends with and have been teammates with in years past.

I will agree that it was exceptionally difficult for her to have lost that event given the standards she was being held to. Women's Air Rifle is always the first event, so there is that prestige associated with winning the first medal of the games.

jorgelito 08-10-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmac (Post 2504741)
Er... well... they're kicking ass in gold medals won (6 as of now), and they're tied with the US for most medals right now, so I don't really expect this juggernaut to be dying down soon. I do feel bad for all of the pressure and high expectations that the public and media are setting for them, but at the same time, I think the thrill of playing in front of the home crowd will even this out. There definitely is a "home country" advantage in the Olympics, it seens.

I really enjoyed the US vs. China basketball game. It was really fun to watch the highlight factory created by the Redeem Team.

Actually I meant in terms of expectations. Yes they are tied and have a pretty good count at the moment but they are under enormous amounts of pressure so i don't think choking will be uncommon which is really too bad. For many, it's gold or gulag. I think the homefield advantage is NOT an advantage at all due to the extreme pressure and expectations.

Oddly, Team USA, especially Men's Basketball has a distinct home court advantage as the Chinese seem to adore the Americans (which is really something considering it is a feeling that is not mutual. The Chinese are hated in the US) and cheer loudly and wildly for USA.

I also enjoyed USA vs. China. What a charming game. Such a great crowd. The Chinese did well for about 2 quarters before the inevitable happened. It's touch to be Team China in basketball. They have improved immensely but still have a long way to go.
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Originally Posted by Bear Cub (Post 2504784)
To say that Du Li "choked" in women's air rifle is kind of a joke. She shot a 399 out of 400 going into the final. You needed a 397 just to make the final. She did drop an uncharacteristic 2 points in the final, but that was moot anyways. Katerina Emmons shot a perfect 400/400 and won the final with a 103.5. Nobody else stood a chance.

To even call Du Li a favorite going in is kind of a wash as well. There have been people at the collegiate level to shoot 400/400 air scores. Yes, it's a world class score, but many of the female competitors were capable of or have shot those scores, including Jamie Beyerle and Emily Caruso, both of whom I am friends with and have been teammates with in years past.

I will agree that it was exceptionally difficult for her to have lost that event given the standards she was being held to. Women's Air Rifle is always the first event, so there is that prestige associated with winning the first medal of the games.

According to all the media I have seen, Du Li was considered a favorite. She "choked" cause she misfired. It's too bad, but it happened. I expect to see a lot of choking in gymnastics and diving for the Chinese. Defending champion Liu Xiang is also a possibility of choking in the main event. I hope they don't choke for their sakes, but I am guessing they will or have a high probability of choking.

yellowmac 08-10-2008 07:44 PM

So here comes my bi-annual rant against NBC and their Olympic coverage.

They scored a major coup in getting the Beijing organizers to re-schedule high profile events like swimming finals to be live for the East Coast, and thus in the AM for Asia. Which is great, I guess. Except that NBC has now screwed over the West Coast. Why, NBC, why?? The 4x100m men's freestyle relay has just happened, and it's probably not going to be on the TV here for another 2 hours. That's complete bullshit. Right now it's still the damn gymnastics preliminaries that are taking up the TV.

The freestyle relay seemed exciting, as best I could tell from hitting 'refresh' on nbcolympics.com. Couldn't really get my attempts at proxy access to international TV feeds to work. Curse you, NBC.

On the other hand, it was nice to discover that they have an all-basketball (as well as all-soccer) channel that shows everything live and without commercials. So I saw the US/China game at 7:15 in the morning, which was a great way to spend a lazy Sunday morning.

Why can't NBC just show their primetime coverage live to everyone in the US? The Super Bowl ain't on tape delay for the West Coast.

Nimetic 08-11-2008 04:10 AM

Aha... They seem to be showing a lot of womens beach volleyball here, which is (err) fascinating. It started raining on them also the other day, which made me wonder how the whole bikini + water thing was going to turn out.

On a more serious note, the womens cycling was incredible. Coming down the mountain in that rain just looks tough. Cycling doesn't normally interest me - but I give a lot of credit to those women. Gutsy performances (because it looked risky) and sheer hard work there.

And on the cycling, I think this showed the city+scenery rather well.

Miss Mango 08-11-2008 05:32 AM

Anyone else find it funny that most of us cant be bothered to watch these sports otherwise but when its the Olympics we suddenly find an interest in say badminton?

Ive been watching this non-stop since Friday night.

yellowmac 08-11-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Mango (Post 2504956)
Anyone else find it funny that most of us cant be bothered to watch these sports otherwise but when its the Olympics we suddenly find an interest in say badminton?

Ive been watching this non-stop since Friday night.

The allure of the Olympics, I suppose.

I, for one, am really, really looking forward to watching table tennis.

Halx 08-11-2008 07:08 AM

The Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay was spectacular to watch. I got up and cheered. I'm usually not a swimming fan.

blahblah454 08-11-2008 09:32 AM

The Olympics are on?

Just kidding. I knew.

I have been watching a little here and there. Never at home, but out at pubs and stuff I will watch it, or when I am eating a fast meal or something. The TV doesn't get turned on often at home for TV stuff. I still can't believe that its a rule how small the bathing suits have to be on the volleyball players, I think that is pretty rude to the women playing.

Leto 08-11-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2504690)
So, it's Day 3. Here's a Day 2 Wrap up.

Some highlights:

1. Team USA swept the medals in Women's Sabre - Fencing for some serious swashbuckling.
What you? Anything catch your eye or touch your heart these past few days? Any events or teams that you are particularly interested in?

I was watching Canadian (Luong?) easily handle her Tunisian opponent in Fencing last night. Luong (a naturalized Canadian, but Chinese immigrant) is 50, her opponent is 19.

I hadn't realized it had gone on to the US winning. I was fully expecting the red&white to vanquish all comers!

ironpham 08-11-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowmac (Post 2504983)
The allure of the Olympics, I suppose.

I, for one, am really, really looking forward to watching table tennis.

When does this happen?!

Daval 08-11-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2504690)

Apparently the Water Cube is a "fast pool" and records are being broken at a, well, record pace.


I understand that ice can be slow or fast depending on the viscosity and humidity and such, but what makes a pool fast?

Bill O'Rights 08-11-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Mango (Post 2504956)
Anyone else find it funny that most of us cant be bothered to watch these sports otherwise but when its the Olympics we suddenly find an interest in say badminton?

Very true. I'm really only a fan of some of this stuff once every four years or so. It's part of the excitement.
Besides...as much as I enjoy watching the gymnasts in the summer games, and the figure skaters and skiers in the winter games...every four years is about all the focus that I can dedicate.

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Originally Posted by Halx (Post 2504996)
The Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay was spectacular to watch. I got up and cheered. I'm usually not a swimming fan.

You and me both, bud. ;) That was about as exciting as it gets.
Of course, in Omaha the fervor is still fresh from the team trials a month and a half ago. Hell, some of us even remember some names besides Michael Phelps. :lol:

snowy 08-11-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ironpham (Post 2505091)
When does this happen?!

Qualifying for table tennis starts tomorrow (today in Beijing).

2008 Beijing Olympics Event Schedule - Olympics Tracker - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com

Bill O'Rights 08-11-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Daval (Post 2505096)
I understand that ice can be slow or fast depending on the viscosity and humidity and such, but what makes a pool fast?

Aparently...having overflow drains, not only on the ends of the pool, but on the sides as well, keeps the movement of the water at an absolute minimum, making it easier for swimmers to move in it. No resistance = fast water.

Although I have absolutely no doubt that other factors come into play as well. That's just one that I remember from the team trials last month.

laconic1 08-11-2008 10:54 AM

I was wondering how a pool could be "fast" too. Amazing that the 5th place finishers in the 4x100m freestyle broke the old world record and didn't even medal. That was one hell of a race to watch!

jorgelito 08-11-2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowmac (Post 2504805)
So here comes my bi-annual rant against NBC and their Olympic coverage.

They scored a major coup in getting the Beijing organizers to re-schedule high profile events like swimming finals to be live for the East Coast, and thus in the AM for Asia. Which is great, I guess. Except that NBC has now screwed over the West Coast. Why, NBC, why?? The 4x100m men's freestyle relay has just happened, and it's probably not going to be on the TV here for another 2 hours. That's complete bullshit. Right now it's still the damn gymnastics preliminaries that are taking up the TV.

The freestyle relay seemed exciting, as best I could tell from hitting 'refresh' on nbcolympics.com. Couldn't really get my attempts at proxy access to international TV feeds to work. Curse you, NBC.

On the other hand, it was nice to discover that they have an all-basketball (as well as all-soccer) channel that shows everything live and without commercials. So I saw the US/China game at 7:15 in the morning, which was a great way to spend a lazy Sunday morning.

Why can't NBC just show their primetime coverage live to everyone in the US? The Super Bowl ain't on tape delay for the West Coast.

NBC never seems to get it right. I share your frustration.

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Originally Posted by Daval (Post 2505096)
I understand that ice can be slow or fast depending on the viscosity and humidity and such, but what makes a pool fast?

It has something to do with the design of the pool. I think its dimensions, depth, and the aforementioned drainage, all contribute to calmer waters friendly to fast times. Additionally, the seating is recessed which according to the experts, makes a psychological impact, allowing the swimmer to feel less cramped.

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Originally Posted by Nimetic (Post 2504932)
On a more serious note, the womens cycling was incredible. Coming down the mountain in that rain just looks tough. Cycling doesn't normally interest me - but I give a lot of credit to those women. Gutsy performances (because it looked risky) and sheer hard work there.

And on the cycling, I think this showed the city+scenery rather well.

Yes, the cycling course has absolutely incredible views and is breathtaking. It was designed to showcase china's rich history and heritage as well as natural beauty. The course is exceptionally grueling, all the more appropriate due to its proximity to the Great Wall. Imagine if the air was clearer how much more beautiful it would be.

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Originally Posted by blahblah454 (Post 2505059)
I still can't believe that its a rule how small the bathing suits have to be on the volleyball players, I think that is pretty rude to the women playing.

Actually they tried going to a one-piece bathing suit but the players prefer the bikini due to comfortability reasons. The one-piece is especially uncomfortable when sand gets in it. There is nothing scandalous here, and honestly, the bikinis are about as boring as can be. I think the media blew things out of proportion here.

MSD 08-11-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimetic (Post 2504932)
Aha... They seem to be showing a lot of womens beach volleyball here, which is (err) fascinating. It started raining on them also the other day, which made me wonder how the whole bikini + water thing was going to turn out.

One of the few I want to watch is on for Australia instead of the East Coast? :(

jorgelito 08-11-2008 11:25 AM

Day 3 Update:

1. The French Surrender!! All that trash talking and Le French choked! It's all about Michael Phelps and the "Quest for 8" now. What an amazing race. France had it, but as usual, waved the white flag in surrender. Great race. The Americans showed so much heart and conviction to pull out the win. Give the French some credit though, they lost with some dignity and sportsmanship.

2. Team Redeem - USA Men's Basketball trounced host China to a crazed sold-out crowd. I love this game because it was so much fun. China actually held pace for about 2-quarters before USA took over completely. What struck me most about this game is how much the Chinese love the Americans. This is refreshing especially in the face of so much anti-Chinese sentiment in the world and China hate in the media. I think Team USA definitely has home-court advantage for these games.

3. India wins first gold medal - BBC SPORT | Olympics | Shooting | Bindra claims India's first gold

About time. These giants are conspicuously absent from the international sporting stage. They usually dominate field hockey having won 8 gold medals in the past. However, they won their first individual gold medal in the Men's 10 Meter Air Rifle. Congratulations India!

4. Olympic moment - Iranian athlete and Israeli hug it out. ESPN - Sporting gesture: Iranian, Israeli share hug after basketball game - Olympics

5. Olympic Moment 2 - Russian and Georgian athletes hug it out. BBC SPORT | Olympics 2008 blog

Very touching and hopeful.

With all the controversies and negative feelings that can surround the Olympics, I really enjoy these moments and stories.

6. China continues to choke - Big upset in badminton. Chinese doubles favorites upset by unseeded Japan. The immense pressure and stress of the ultimate big stage is unraveling some Chinese athletes. Surely more to come.

Bill O'Rights 08-11-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505134)
With all the controversies and negative feelings that can surround the Olympics, I really enjoy these moments and stories.

Agreed.
But, that is, I think, the spirit of the Olympics. That's what it should be.

dlish 08-11-2008 11:45 AM

the deeper the pool, the greater the gravitational pull. along with the whole drainage are some of the reasons for the fast pool.

having spent a long part of my life in or around the pool either swimming or coaching, i can tell you that even the temperature has a lot to do with the 'fastness'

the warmer the water the 'thicker' it feels when you swim in it. cold water feels a lot easier to slice through. not sure why but maybe some scientists can help out here.

also, the warmer the water, the warmer the athletes get, the more they perspire the more they dehydrate. remember that all swimmers warm up before hand, and its not just a 50m race!

Halx 08-11-2008 11:58 AM

Thank you for the insight, dlish!

snowy 08-11-2008 12:02 PM

The NYTimes has an article up right now that discusses some of the technological improvements that have probably led to the spate of world records at the Games, including the Speedo LZR Racer suit and the design of the pool:

NY Times: As Swimming Records Fall, Value Is Questioned

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dlish 08-11-2008 12:12 PM

heres a news article i just read on the water cube about the fastness of the pool.



China's Olympic Swimming Pool: Redefining Fast : NPR

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Weekend Edition Sunday, August 10, 2008 · Until Sunday, the Olympic "Water Cube" in Beijing was best known for being blue and bubbly and bright at night. Now the Olympic swimming pool inside may get more attention.

A dozen world and Olympic records fell at the pool Sunday, most in preliminary heats. American Michael Phelps started the record run with a new world mark in the 400-meter individual medley event. That won him his first gold medal of the 2008 games.

Ten hours later, the U.S. men's 4-by-100 freestyle relay team also set a world record.

Records often fall at the Olympics, because athletes spend four years preparing and their performances often peak at the games. But the pool itself may deserve some credit.

"It's by far the fastest pool in the world," says Rowdy Gaines, an Olympic medalist and swimming commentator for Olympic broadcaster NBC. "If you step into this arena, you'll see a thing of beauty. ... It's really a thing of absolute beauty."

Gaines is not referring to the futuristic exterior. He focuses on the design of the pool, which discourages turbulence and encourages speed.

"I'm talking about deep water," Gaines explains. "It's a perfect depth because if it's too deep, you lose your sense of vision and where you're at in the pool. But it's just deep enough to where the waves dissipate (and) the turbulence dissipates down to the bottom."

The Water Cube pool also has 10 lanes instead of eight. Waves churned up during races don't bounce back into the swimming lanes. Waves that reach the sides are siphoned off by perforated gutters.

"It's physics and it's not sports, but it makes sense," says Christine Brennan, a veteran of 13 Olympics and an Olympics columnist for USA Today. "You make a deeper and a wider pool, and you ... give all of those waves and all of that splashing and all of that moving water a chance to move away from the swimmers and get out of their way, which makes them go faster. It's as simple as that."

The Water Cube pool is close to 10 feet deep. That's 3 feet deeper than the pools of the past. The lane lines that separate swimmers are called wave eaters because they dissipate turbulent water. The goal is to make the water as flat and clear as possible, despite the churning that swimmers create.

An indoor setting also helps, along with temperature, humidity and lighting control. Wide decks with seats sharply cascading back give swimmers an uncrowded sense of space. That can energize athletes, like American Dara Torres, who calls the pool "awesome."

"Everything is just fantastic about this pool. I've never seen such a big facility in my life. And you get a great feeling walking into that facility, knowing that this is where the Olympic Games are (held)."

The technology used in the Water Cube pool is standard now for competitive pools. Gaines believes the pools have reached their technological limits.

"Technology has really kind of tapped out as far as the building of these kinds of facilities," Gaines says. "I can't imagine them getting better."

All that's left, Gaines suggests, is making the water faster, perhaps by changing its chemical composition. Competitive pools, for example, once contained salt water, which increased buoyancy and speed. But Gaines doubts whether water can actually be altered in a way that would help swimmers swim faster.

"It's not like track and field, where the types of tracks ... just get faster and faster because, I guess, there is more spring to them," Gaines says. "But I don't know how you make fast water. It's just not possible."

In fact, new technology lately has focused on high-tech swimming suits that decrease resistance. Those suits and a fast pool and the intensely competitive atmosphere of the Olympics mean more records are likely to fall in Beijing
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jorgelito 08-11-2008 12:22 PM

That's awesome! Thanks D!

Daval 08-11-2008 12:39 PM

Very interesting read, thank you!

Halx 08-11-2008 01:21 PM

snowy's article is close to complete in naming all of the different factors that go into the recent barrage of new world records. As I see it, we've entered a new era of swimming, where it cannot be compared to the years before it.

Bear Cub 08-11-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505134)
Day 3 Update:

1. The French Surrender!! All that trash talking and Le French choked! It's all about Michael Phelps and the "Quest for 8" now. What an amazing race. France had it, but as usual, waved the white flag in surrender. Great race. The Americans showed so much heart and conviction to pull out the win. Give the French some credit though, they lost with some dignity and sportsmanship.

Well, they lost, but their excuse according to Reuters:

"The US got lucky", and for me, the icing on the cake, "Experience prevailed over talent today, and I regret that," added France's Frederick Bousquet.




And as for only paying attention to sports when they're on at the Olympics... where the hell can I watch televised badminton any other time of year?

jorgelito 08-11-2008 08:57 PM

Day 4:

Wow, the Games have really been exciting so far and have exceeded my expectations. With all the hype and the controversies leading up to the Olympics, I almost didn't want to watch.

1. USA Swimming continues its dominance as Michael Phelps gets closer to completing his "Quest for 8". USA Swimmers grab another 3 golds, 2 silvers, and 2 bronze as they surpass the Chinese in medal count.

2. The Aussies are showing up in swimming now taking a gold and bronze. I was expecting more from them as they are annual swimming powerhouses.

3. Chinese Mens Gymnastics - Wow! Just wow! They are just incredible and mesmerizing to watch. I caught some action out of curiosity and am glad I did. US is hanging in there and exceeding expectations. China takes gold and US in a gutsy performance takes the bronze.

4. Damn, the South Koreans are fierce - screaming up the medal count in third place with a gold in shooting.

Fun fact: There are 205 out of 203 countries represented at these Olympics. The lone hold out is Brunei which did not send any athletes.

dlish 08-12-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505381)
Day 4:

Wow, the Games have really been exciting so far and have exceeded my expectations. With all the hype and the controversies leading up to the Olympics, I almost didn't want to watch.

1. USA Swimming continues its dominance as Michael Phelps gets closer to completing his "Quest for 8". USA Swimmers grab another 3 golds, 2 silvers, and 2 bronze as they surpass the Chinese in medal count.

2. The Aussies are showing up in swimming now taking a gold and bronze. I was expecting more from them as they are annual swimming powerhouses.

3. Chinese Mens Gymnastics - Wow! Just wow! They are just incredible and mesmerizing to watch. I caught some action out of curiosity and am glad I did. US is hanging in there and exceeding expectations. China takes gold and US in a gutsy performance takes the bronze.

4. Damn, the South Koreans are fierce - screaming up the medal count in third place with a gold in shooting.

Fun fact: There are 205 out of 203 countries represented at these Olympics. The lone hold out is Brunei which did not send any athletes.


huh? 205 out of 203? thats a diffrence of two, meaning there must be 2 countries not competing!

*scratches head

as for those damn aussies its their worst start to an olympics since atlanta. i was expecting a lot more gold by now. but credit to team USA. they've performed exceptionally well in the pool. and although i like phelps, ive always been an underdog man. 8 gold is a little greedy.

do i want to see him make history? yeah you could say so...
but my love of the underdog almost wills me to not want him win 8. so im gonna sit on the sideline and hope for another killer race like the 4 x 100m mens relay.

jorgelito 08-12-2008 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2505584)
huh? 205 out of 203? thats a diffrence of two, meaning there must be 2 countries not competing!

*scratches head

as for those damn aussies its their worst start to an olympics since atlanta. i was expecting a lot more gold by now. but credit to team USA. they've performed exceptionally well in the pool. and although i like phelps, ive always been an underdog man. 8 gold is a little greedy.

do i want to see him make history? yeah you could say so...
but my love of the underdog almost wills me to not want him win 8. so im gonna sit on the sideline and hope for another killer race like the 4 x 100m mens relay.

Oops, I meant 205 out of 206.

Australia is hardly an underdog though. Just a little quiet this year. Besides, USA was the underdog in the 4 X 100m relay as the French were heavily favored to win.

CinnamonGirl 08-12-2008 08:49 AM

I've never really watched swimming, but the past couple of nights, I jumped off the couch cheering. Especially after the 4 x 100...that was amazing.

I've only been able to watch swimming & volleyball so far. Oh, and the last bit of men's gymnastics. Considering how down everyone was on the US men after the Hamms were injured, the bronze was pretty cool.

Women's gymnastics are tonight, yes? I haven't been able to catch any events, and that's usually my favorite.

jorgelito 08-12-2008 01:08 PM

Update:

1. Talk about underdogs, little Togo (West Africa) won its first medal ever taking a bronze medal in Kayaking. Way to go Togo!

2. French Surrender, Part Deux

Manaudou considering quitting - International Herald Tribune

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Manaudou considering quitting
The Associated Press
Published: August 12, 2008

BEIJING: Two devastating defeats in two days have left former champion Laure Manaudou wondering whether she should quit the swimming competition midway through.

"I'm asking myself if it's worth continuing. I don't even have the desire to swim anymore," Manaudou told France-2 television Tuesday after placing seventh in the 100-meter backstroke. "It's tough finishing seventh or eighth."

On Monday, Manaudou finished eighth — or last — in the 400 freestyle, more than eight seconds slower than the winner, Britain's Rebecca Adlington.

"It was very hard to rebound after what happened yesterday," the Frenchwoman added.

Manaudou was slated to race twice more: the 200 back Thursday and the 400 medley relay Friday.

"I think she'll start the 200 back. I'm going to push her by tapping on her champion's mind-set," said Manaudou's personal coach, Lionel Horter.

These games have been a sharp contrast from Manaudou's breakthrough four years ago in Athens, when aged just 17, she brought home France's first swimming gold since Jean Boiteux in 1952, in the 400 free. She also won a silver in the 800 free and a bronze in 100 back.

In 2005, Manaudou became the 400 free world champion, a title she defended in 2007. In between, she broke the 18-year-old world record of Janet Evans, and then improved on her own mark again just three months later.
Talk about throwing in the towel. I hope she doesn't quit and keeps on going. Would be a shame to go out like that.

3. Team Redeem continues its dominance by steamrolling Angola. Give Angola for playing it 'close" and only losing by 20 or so points. Team Redeem faces first real competition against Greece next. Let's see if USA will overcome its woeful outside shooting.

4. Team China almost pulls off upset of Spain only to lose it in overtime. China meets Angola next in a match of the no-wins. Angola upset China earlier this year by going small and using overwhelming speed and swarming defense. We'll see if China has learned any lessons and made adjustments.

roachboy 08-12-2008 03:22 PM

can i just take a second and say how much i hate nbc's coverage of the games?
it seems like it's always been this way, though: the ridiculously selective event coverage--the cheesy human interest stories--the cult of personality constructed around certain athletes---i would much rather see footage of international badminton, for example, than sit through tedious little biographies of x or y which seems to work under the assumption that unless the stupid biographies were there, i'd wander away from the tv and miss vital advertising.

that said, i have to say i enjoyed costa's interview of george w bush. and io found the chinese men's gymnastics team to be astonishing. and i'll probably watch more of the coverage tonight. but jesus christ.

ktspktsp 08-12-2008 04:07 PM

And today, Iceland beat Germany in a men's handball game! Germany is the reigning world champion, so that's pretty impressive. This is the one sport in which Icelanders are good :).
Who knows, they might end up with a medal out of this...

ShaniFaye 08-12-2008 04:14 PM

just out of curiosity is anyone taking advantage of the online viewing or the other channels besides nbc to watch anything?

I like the online viewing because you can rewind it and watch stuff that happened when you werent able to watch it the first time around

Bear Cub 08-12-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye (Post 2505876)
just out of curiosity is anyone taking advantage of the online viewing or the other channels besides nbc to watch anything?

I like the online viewing because you can rewind it and watch stuff that happened when you werent able to watch it the first time around

I get quite a few channels that are broadcasting the Chinese coverage without any translation. They're some of the oddball extra channels that AT&T gives you that rarely broadcast anything.

jorgelito 08-12-2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktspktsp (Post 2505871)
And today, Iceland beat Germany in a men's handball game! Germany is the reigning world champion, so that's pretty impressive. This is the one sport in which Icelanders are good :).
Who knows, they might end up with a medal out of this...

Cool, thanks for the update ketchup. Good job Icies!

I thought Croatia was the champs? Or maybe the best player in the world is Croatian? What other sports is Iceland participating in this year? I know they are pretty active for the Winter Games.

Incidentally, the World Spa Championships are happening, in Finland I think. I bet Icelanders would be good at that eh?

yellowmac 08-12-2008 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye (Post 2505876)
just out of curiosity is anyone taking advantage of the online viewing or the other channels besides nbc to watch anything?

I like the online viewing because you can rewind it and watch stuff that happened when you werent able to watch it the first time around

yeah, i've been watching both online and on the various NBC networks. online has been a pleasant surprise -- pretty good video quality all around, and i like how it's mostly commercial free.

jorgelito 08-12-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye (Post 2505876)
just out of curiosity is anyone taking advantage of the online viewing or the other channels besides nbc to watch anything?

I like the online viewing because you can rewind it and watch stuff that happened when you werent able to watch it the first time around

Hi Shani, the other sites broadcasting (BBC, CBC etc) have black outs/lockouts for IPs not originating in their territories. However, I have heard there are sites or ways to reroute your own IP address to get access to these broadcasts. Also, there are programs you can download that broadcast various channels. One program is called Sopcast.

Perhaps one of the more computer savvy tfpers can help us out? Cynth? Anyone? Beuller?

Enjoy the Games everyone!

yellowmac 08-12-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505895)
Hi Shani, the other sites broadcasting (BBC, CBC etc) have black outs/lockouts for IPs not originating in their territories. However, I have heard there are sites or ways to reroute your own IP address to get access to these broadcasts. Also, there are programs you can download that broadcast various channels. One program is called Sopcast.

I tried the things listed here (How to Watch the Olympics Online) the other night when I was trying to watch the 4x100 freestyle relay, and didn't get much success. Granted, I was a bit rushed, but it wasn't exactly the most trivial thing to set up.

ShaniFaye 08-12-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505895)
Hi Shani, the other sites broadcasting (BBC, CBC etc) have black outs/lockouts for IPs not originating in their territories. However, I have heard there are sites or ways to reroute your own IP address to get access to these broadcasts. Also, there are programs you can download that broadcast various channels. One program is called Sopcast.

Perhaps one of the more computer savvy tfpers can help us out? Cynth? Anyone? Beuller?

Enjoy the Games everyone!

I honestly dont know about this, I know when I set it up it asked for my tv provider (which is Dish network) and it set me up a grid of all the channels dish is broadcasting the games on and what time etc if I want to watch them on tv. As far as the online? I just go to the online grid and pick what I want to see, go to that page and click the rewind link so I can watch all of that particular competition, I havent had one yet that didnt let me watch it and I've tried them all

jorgelito 08-12-2008 05:00 PM

I share your frustrations folks, a lot of the vid links don't work, hopefully the powers that be will hear our complaints and make adjustments. Hang in there.

yellowmac 08-12-2008 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505910)
I share your frustrations folks, a lot of the vid links don't work, hopefully the powers that be will hear our complaints and make adjustments. Hang in there.

I dunno. I feel that the vast majority of people in America are just fine with whatever NBC force feeds them. It's really the enlightened folk like us who are demanding change, and we're mere peons in the billion dollar complex that is NBC and the Olympics.

dlish 08-12-2008 06:52 PM

one of my friends watches the coverage on a program called TVU. its a program that he downloaded from download.com im sure.

gives feeds from channels from all over the world, including the olympics, except hes yet to find english coverage of the olympics

jorgelito 08-12-2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2505998)
one of my friends watches the coverage on a program called TVU. its a program that he downloaded from download.com im sure.

gives feeds from channels from all over the world, including the olympics, except hes yet to find english coverage of the olympics

How are you watching it? Are you able to get coverage out there in the UAE?
-----Added 13/8/2008 at 01 : 59 : 14-----
Ok folks, Day 5:

1. Michael Phelps and the "Quest for 8" is more than halfway complete winning golds 4 and 5 to creep ever closer to history. Unbelievable watching this young man swim.

2. Well, sadly Team USA Ladies' Gymnastics lost to the Chinese in the team event. The Americans just made too many mistakes and the Chinese capitalized on their home turf. But with still the Individual competitions left, don't count our the American girls just yet.

3. Our friends from Oz have shown up and are screaming up the medal charts neck in neck with the South Koreans. Now this is more in line with my expectations for Australia. Always a contender and successful, the Aussies do not fail to disappoint. They racked up a bunch of medals in swimming today.

Also, keep an eye out on their softball team who will sure to challenge and give the Americans a run for their money. But my money is still on USA ;).

4. Tied for third in the medal count with Australia are the South Koreans. They are just superb and unbeatable in archery. They suprisingly found some success in swimming too.

5. Little Taiwan beats the Netherlands in baseball

6. Georgia beat Russia in girls' Beach Volleyball - makes for some interesting intrigue there.

7. Zimbabwe has collected its 3rd silver medal - all from the same person, Kirsty Coventry.

ktspktsp 08-13-2008 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505892)
Cool, thanks for the update ketchup. Good job Icies!

I thought Croatia was the champs? Or maybe the best player in the world is Croatian? What other sports is Iceland participating in this year? I know they are pretty active for the Winter Games.

Incidentally, the World Spa Championships are happening, in Finland I think. I bet Icelanders would be good at that eh?

No, Croatia are not the champs. However Denmark are the European champs. Hopefully we will beat our former occupiers too!
I don't know what else Iceland is participating in, but I doubt much will come out of it. They have a total of one silver and two bronze medals from all the previous olympics. And they've never won any medal at the winter olympics, heh.

But yeah, maybe they could do well in the Spa Championships :lol:

Áfram Ísland! :)

dlish 08-13-2008 04:35 AM

ktsp - im just wondering who you are going for?? you could easily be barracking for 3 countries - lebanon, usa and iceland.

jorge- im watching what i can online of highlights, some on tvs wherever they are around. although i do have a TV at home, i dont have a subscription cos im never home to watch tv, and when i am im usually online. im going to figure out what im goingto do when the athletics start cos i plan to watch most of it. i may download TVU or something else if i find something with english commentary.

Nimetic 08-13-2008 04:53 AM

Just on that pool one.... I really shouldn't mention it, but I'm going to anyway.

I fail to see how deeper water makes for stronger gravity. If this was the case - the gravitational field under your typical boat would be huge.

biznatch 08-13-2008 06:12 AM

We watched NBC for a long time last night.
It's just kind of frustrating to have the commentators, the cameramen and the commercials all fapping to Phelps, or the US team and not covering the rest of the Olympics. I mean, it's nice to see how the US gymnasts stretch and talk and smile and stuff, but don't you think you could use that time to show another team?
Also, I completely disagree with this new thing they've been saying which is that Phelps is the greatest athlete ever. No way. He's an amazing swimmer, has tremendous motivation, strength, character, and all of that, but I don't think he's the greatest athlete ever.

jorgelito 08-13-2008 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biznatch (Post 2506193)
We watched NBC for a long time last night.
It's just kind of frustrating to have the commentators, the cameramen and the commercials all fapping to Phelps, or the US team and not covering the rest of the Olympics. I mean, it's nice to see how the US gymnasts stretch and talk and smile and stuff, but don't you think you could use that time to show another team?
Also, I completely disagree with this new thing they've been saying which is that Phelps is the greatest athlete ever. No way. He's an amazing swimmer, has tremendous motivation, strength, character, and all of that, but I don't think he's the greatest athlete ever.

I don't have tv at the moment so I am stuck with the online coverage which is actually pretty good. Watch the live feeds and video. You may find it better.

sapiens 08-13-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biznatch (Post 2506193)
We watched NBC for a long time last night.
It's just kind of frustrating to have the commentators, the cameramen and the commercials all fapping to Phelps, or the US team and not covering the rest of the Olympics. I mean, it's nice to see how the US gymnasts stretch and talk and smile and stuff, but don't you think you could use that time to show another team?
Also, I completely disagree with this new thing they've been saying which is that Phelps is the greatest athlete ever. No way. He's an amazing swimmer, has tremendous motivation, strength, character, and all of that, but I don't think he's the greatest athlete ever.

The NBC coverage drives me crazy. So much fluff and so many commercials. They spent 10 minutes on pandas during the coverage last night. Aaargh!

I did watch a bit of Brazil versus Nigeria (Women's soccer) on Telemundo yesterday. Cristiane's bicycle kick was impressive! The coverage on Telelemundo was much better - fewer commerical and less fluff.

ktspktsp 08-13-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2506143)
ktsp - im just wondering who you are going for?? you could easily be barracking for 3 countries - lebanon, usa and iceland.

Well, I guess I tend to like underdogs, and countries that I feel attached to. It would be great if Lebanon got a medal, but that's quite unlikely. And it would be very nice if Iceland got something too, since I will be in the middle of the celebrations :).

The US, though I plan to move there, I'm not as excited about, sportswise, because they're such a giant. But I'm not against them, for sure :).

abaya 08-13-2008 11:31 AM

The Icelandic handball team happens to be kicking ass and takin' names right now! But ktsp already mentioned that... :)

I'm a fan of any of my 3 nationalities (+ Lebanon, my adopted one) winning any medals.

That said, in Iceland they aren't showing much of anything on the one channel that we have... mostly because they only show it live (we're 8 hours behind Beijing), which is in the middle of the night for a lot of things. So I might have settled for at least NBC so I could see SOME events... alas, I can't even watch on NBC's stupid website because my computer is not in America. :p

Mostly, though, I would love to watch the rowing events... there's no sport more beautiful than that, in my biased opinion. But they very rarely show it.

jorgelito 08-13-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktspktsp (Post 2506370)
Well, I guess I tend to like underdogs, and countries that I feel attached to. It would be great if Lebanon got a medal, but that's quite unlikely. And it would be very nice if Iceland got something too, since I will be in the middle of the celebrations :).

The US, though I plan to move there, I'm not as excited about, sportswise, because they're such a giant. But I'm not against them, for sure :).

Ooh, this is always a fun part for me. One of the reasons I like the Olympics is the diversity of nations in attendance. This year there are 205 out of 206 (thank you very much Dlish) countries. It should be obvious that I am deeply entrenched in rooting for USA! USA! USA! BUT, I always enjoy hearing about other nations, especially the "underdog" or smaller, lesser known nations. I always feel it's good exposure for them. I am also touched by so many of their extraordinary stories; what they went through, how they got there.

This year I've adopted Cambodia (their runner couldn't even afford shoes), Afghanistan, Iraq, India, and of course Team USA.

A word on Team USA. One of the reasons why I love Team USA so much is because of its diversity. I will for sure be rooting for that Sudanese refugee Lopez. In addition, we have Russian, Chinese, Indian, etc Americans on this team - all competing their hearts out for the USA. That means alot to me. Keep an eye out for Sadam Ali (gotta love that name), the first Arab-American athlete to compete in the Olympics. I believe he is in boxing. Although a long shot, a medal by Ali would do wonders for raising Arab-Americans' profile in the US.

Enjoy the games everyone!
-----Added 13/8/2008 at 03 : 59 : 52-----
Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya (Post 2506377)
The Icelandic handball team happens to be kicking ass and takin' names right now! But ktsp already mentioned that... :)

I'm a fan of any of my 3 nationalities (+ Lebanon, my adopted one) winning any medals.

That said, in Iceland they aren't showing much of anything on the one channel that we have... mostly because they only show it live (we're 8 hours behind Beijing), which is in the middle of the night for a lot of things. So I might have settled for at least NBC so I could see SOME events... alas, I can't even watch on NBC's stupid website because my computer is not in America. :p

Mostly, though, I would love to watch the rowing events... there's no sport more beautiful than that, in my biased opinion. But they very rarely show it.

There's gotta be a way you can watch the events (routing your ISP etc). Look at some of the previous posts for helpful hints and maybe someone else can show you a way too. Haven't seen any rowing yet but looking forward to it. Heard there was supposed to be dragonboating as well but haven't heard anything about it yet.

yellowmac 08-13-2008 02:15 PM

USA baseball lost their opening game to S. Korea 8-7. I noticed some sports blogs going crazy over this, saying stuff about how Korea was totally lucky, etc. etc. I found this amusing because Korea definitely beat the US in the prelim game they played in the World Baseball Classic two years ago...

jorgelito 08-14-2008 02:16 AM

Day 6:

1. Yang Wei wins the long awaited gold medal for Mens All Around Gymnastics. The Chinese have performed poorly in Olympic competition and excelled at the Worlds for awhile now. This Olympic win is definitely an achievement for them.

2. France vindicated - smack talkin' Alain Bernard of France wins gold in the Mens 100 meter freestyle. Poor guy was pretty downtrodden after the spectacular relay finish, good to see him win the gold.

3. Zimbabwe sweeps - Kirsty Coventry has won 3 silvers in swimming. Way to go!

4. Japan sweeps - Kitajima takes the gold in both breast stroke events.

5. The Aussies have pulled away from the South Koreans in the medal count thanks to their swimming

6. USA beach volley ball are on a roll going into the medal rounds

That's it for this update. I have been browsing other events too these past couple of days such as softball, baseball, archery, hockey, and fencing. It's fun to watch other countries compete in not-as-mainstream events. Haven't seen much badminton yet but I hear it's absolutely thrilling. Anyone else watch some interesting events or other countries (non-home country events)?

Fun-fact: Michael Phelps consumes 14,000 calories a day to sustain his training regimen. It's not all health food either. The list of what he eats is staggering and frighteningly unhealthy. I gained a few pounds just looking at the menu of what he eats.

Enjoy the games!

dlish 08-14-2008 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimetic (Post 2506150)
Just on that pool one.... I really shouldn't mention it, but I'm going to anyway.

I fail to see how deeper water makes for stronger gravity. If this was the case - the gravitational field under your typical boat would be huge.


good call.
thanks for pointing that out nimetic. now that you mention it, maybe you're right. but there is definately a huge difference between swimming in shallow and swimming in deep water. maybe someones got some answer here? i tried googling it but havent come up with anything yet. what your take on it nimetic?


whats everyone think of the fake fireworks as well as the myming little chinese girl from the opening ceremony who did a myming act for the real singer who wasnt allowed to sing because she has crooked teeth? anyone heard anything on this yet?

abaya 08-14-2008 07:11 AM

Just a little update on the Icelandic broadcasting thing: today I've been able to catch some more of the "early morning" events (which showed before noon today, while I was working on stuff at home), including the mens's 100m butterfly heats, and the Greece-USA men's basketball game. I would have loved to see the gymnastics, but oh well. Isn't there any way of catching this stuff after the fact, in this digital, internet age? I am missing all the rowing... :(

Ktspktsp is more annoyed because they are showing everything while he is at work (since it's live--and there are absolutely no commercials, which is a plus)... there's no TV there, so he hasn't had a chance to see anything. :(

sapiens 08-14-2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2506929)
good call.
thanks for pointing that out nimetic. now that you mention it, maybe you're right. but there is definately a huge difference between swimming in shallow and swimming in deep water. maybe someones got some answer here? i tried googling it but havent come up with anything yet. what your take on it nimetic?

From your post earlier (Post 26):
Quote:

But it's just deep enough to where the waves dissipate (and) the turbulence dissipates down to the bottom
Makes sense to me.

dlish 08-14-2008 08:09 AM

no thats turbulence inside the water. like underwater waves i guess.

in shallow water you get the turbulence bouncing back at you and slowing you down.

sapiens 08-14-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2506967)
no thats turbulence inside the water. like underwater waves i guess.

in shallow water you get the turbulence bouncing back at you and slowing you down.

Right, which explains why deeper pools are faster. Wasn't that what you asked in your last post?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish
definately a huge difference between swimming in shallow and swimming in deep water. maybe someones got some answer here?

Back to the OP: When i first saw that green line across the pool that indicates the world record pace (on NBC) I was excited by it. Now with all the records being broken, I'm not as excited as I once was.

I watched a bit of men's synchronized diving with my daughter last night. I don't understand the appeal of that sport.

Last night, the commentators on NBC viewed the results of the gymnastics before the broadcast. Somehow that makes their commentary even more annoying (if that's possible).

surferlove007 08-14-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2505612)
Oops, I meant 205 out of 206.

Australia is hardly an underdog though. Just a little quiet this year. Besides, USA was the underdog in the 4 X 100m relay as the French were heavily favored to win.

That was such an amazing race.
(former swimmer)
I'm so glad I got a chance to train with one of the athletes there...Dana Vollmer. She also introduced my entire team to Michael Phelps when I was in high school. Talk about a wow experience!

Bear Cub 08-15-2008 06:19 PM

PLEASE tell me you people just watched the men's 100 fly. I have NEVER seen anything that looked that close in actuality, and I've seen drag races come down to thousandths of a second. Even after watching the replay, I still can't see it. I'm in total awe right now.

The_Jazz 08-15-2008 06:24 PM

Bear Cub, I am raising my arm here. That was absolutely awesome.

That said, I've seen closer races, but those are restricted solely to track sprints that are decided by photos.

Highly enjoyable, even if it was for wanna-be runners ( :) )

Bear Cub 08-15-2008 06:41 PM

And to make it sweeter, the Frenchies just had it stuck to them again!

Tully Mars 08-15-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear Cub (Post 2505888)
I get quite a few channels that are broadcasting the Chinese coverage without any translation. They're some of the oddball extra channels that AT&T gives you that rarely broadcast anything.

I have three dishes on my roof, each pointed at a different Sat. I get something like 850 channels (without cloud cover, with rain it can be zero) A few minutes ago someone posted what a great finish there had been in the 100-meter butterfly. I clicked around for a while until I found a channel showing it, Korean I think? Just like they said photo finish. Of course I have no idea what the guys on the TV were saying, but I assume it was Korean for "photo finish, photo finish!"

It's weird right now with all the stations covering the games I can almost always find some coverage 24 hrs day. Half the time it's like "Oh, wait I saw that this morning" click, click.

CinnamonGirl 08-15-2008 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear Cub (Post 2507898)
PLEASE tell me you people just watched the men's 100 fly. I have NEVER seen anything that looked that close in actuality, and I've seen drag races come down to thousandths of a second. Even after watching the replay, I still can't see it. I'm in total awe right now.

Oh yes. It was aaaaaaamazing.


And way to go, Dara Torres! Can't wait to see the finals tomorrow for the women's 50m freestyle...

yellowmac 08-15-2008 09:22 PM

Phelps wins by 0.01 sec. Unbelievable -- just unbelievable. This man is a freak of nature. Bring him all the finest meats and cheeses in the land!!

And to think, he wants to swim in London for 2012. Maybe he'll have 20 gold medals by the time he retires...

dlish 08-16-2008 08:32 AM

who is to deny Usain Bolt?!?!

New Olympic 100m Track and Field Champion - The fastest man in the world!- World Record

Lightning Bolt wins 100m gold | FoxSports - Fox Sports


Lightning Bolt wins 100m gold

USAIN Bolt last night made himself the biggest star athletics has seen since Carl Lewis, annihilating the field in the men's 100m final, running 9.69sec to break his own world record.
In one of the most extraordinary one-off performances ever seen at an Olympic Games, the rangy 196cm tall 21-year-old Jamaican sheared .03sec off his own record to win his country its first 100m men's gold medal.

Bolt was laughing as he crossed the line as he was that far ahead of the chasing pack with Trinidad's Richard Thompson grabbing the silver medal in 9.89sec and American Walter Dix the bronze in 9.91sec.

"I've been training all year for this,'' he said. "I could maybe go 9.60 the way I looked."

The major disappointment of the final was former world record holder Asafa Powell who finished fifth in 9.95sec.

With one run, Bolt turned the Olympic Games on its head. Over the last 20 metres he ran with his arms outstretched to celebrate his victory and he ran with one shoelace undone and the laces flapping. He is so young he could go on and be anything.

On Wednesday night Bolt will attempt to become the first man since Lewis in 1984 to win the 100m-200m sprint double at an Olympic Games and on last night's evidence there is no-one in the world who can stop him.

He will also threaten Michael Johnson's thought-to-be untouchable world record of 19.32sec set on a searing track in Atlanta in 1996.

Being a Jamaican, Bolt loves cricket and in Beijing last week he said his cricketing idols were Australians Adam Gilchrist and Matt Hayden.

"They bat aggressive and I really like it, that is who I am really,'' Bolt said.

While shattered with his own performance Powell, who still hasn't won a gold medal at a major championship, lauded his good friend's performance.

"I am very disappointed for myself but I am delighted for Usain," he said. "He could have gone even faster if he'd gone in a straight line.

"He is definitely the greatest sprinter of all time and we just have to look out for what he does next."
Bolt's arrival as a legitimate megastar comes at a crucial time for the sport which has taken a battering in recent years following a string of drug controversies.

The writing was on the wall after the semi-finals when Bolt cruised down in 9.85sec, just .01sec off the Olympic record which Donovan Bailey had held since 1996.

As he'd done in the second round heat the previous evening, the giant Jamaican spent the second half of the race looking at the big television screen and then at his rivals such was the ease of his work.

It was in the second semi-final, which Powell won in 9.91sec, that the event lost its much-hyped third key player with reigning world champion Tyson Gay failing to qualify.

The American strained his hamstring during the 200m at the US Olympic trials in June and hadn't been able to compete in the lead-up to the Games.

Despite bravely trying to talking up his chances during the week, Gay looked rusty in the opening two heats and from lane nine last night he finished fifth in 10.05sec.

"I don't know (what happened)," he said. "I just didn't have nothin' in me today. I ran as fast as I could. I focussed on the Olympics so I'm disappointed. I thought I would get into the finals."

Gay, who clocked a wind-assisted time of 9.68sec at the US trials, refused to blame his hamstring on the below-par performance.

"The injury was a setback to my training, but that's no excuse because my hamstring feels fine," he said. "I feel great, I feel strong, I feel relaxed, it just wasn't there."

This had clearly been the most anticipated Olympic men's 100m final since Seoul in 1988 when the infamous Ben Johnson went head-to-head with the Lewis.

It had all the elements in the lead-up. The new world record holder taking on the former world record holder, who just happened to be a fellow countryman and close friend, and the reigning world champion.

The Powell-Gay rivalry had been established at last year's world championships where the Jamaican finished third after choking in the final behind the American while Bolt has come into the picture this year.

He was only doing the 100m this season to improve his speed for his preferred event the 200m and was as surprised as everyone when he took .02sec off Powell's world record, running 9.72sec in New York on June 1.

There has always been a buzz about Bolt since as a 15-year-old he won the world junior 200m title but his laid-back care-free attitude and love of a good time had been seen by some as a possible problem.

Bolt and Powell, who hang out together when at home in Kingston, have raced several times and while Bolt won the Jamaican Olympic trial in June, Powell got revenge in Stockholm in late July, signalling he was back to his best after being plagued by minor injury problems throughout the year.

Remarkably given last night's events, Bolt hadn't made up his mind to run the 100m until he arrived in Beijing two weeks. His main focus has always been the 200m, in which he won the silver medal at last year's world championships, and he has the fastest time this year of 19.67sec.
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Bear Cub 08-16-2008 12:00 PM

It was obvious by watching the semis he was going to win. He was practically jogging and had 3-4 lengths on everyone, where as Gay was going nearly all out by the look on his face, and its debatable whether or not he even COULD HAVE won his heat.

jorgelito 08-16-2008 12:46 PM

Team Redeem (USA Men's Basketball beats champions Spain!

Team Redeem is on a roll. They massacred the reigning champs and finally found their 3-pointers. The rest should be a breeze now. Good job team!

yellowmac 08-16-2008 03:01 PM

I'm amazed that Bolt ran that world record time, and he could have run even faster at the end. Simply phenomenal.

jorgelito 08-17-2008 01:09 AM

Week 1 complete.

Whew!! The Olympic games have been very exciting thus far. Filled with drama and good competition.

1. Michael Phelps has done it. Quest for 8 is officially completed. 8 gold medals into the annals of history. Unbelievable achievement. Congratulation for this extraordinary accomplishment.

2. 41 year old Dora Torres missed her gold by .01 seconds. Guess she now has something in common with that Serbia swimmer who lost to Phelps. I swear I never knew swimming could be this exciting.

3. Little Tunisia wins its first gold medal! Oussama Mellouli beat two tough Aussies for gold in the Mens 1500m Freestyle Swim (that's 30 laps!). He has an interesting story: Tunisia's Mellouli breaks Hackett's reign - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports

4. Canada wins their first gold - Carol Hyunh upsets her Japanese opponent in the 48kg Womens Wrestling (no, not GLOW) to bring some cheer for our grumbling Canuck friends. There is a bit of controversy over her win however as many Canadians do not consider her to be a real Canadian as Carol is of Chinese heritage with some even going as far as claiming she only won because the Games are held in China. Anyways, Carol's gold brings the medal count for Canada to 5, 16th overall so TFP Canadians, rejoice and celebrate. Besides, you guys have a bunch of events with medal contenders left.

5. American Gay out of the race and Usain "Lightning" Bolt of Jamaica wins the 100 m easily, even "jogging" the last 10 meters or so. He is only 21 and is a person to keep an eye on. Plus his clowny behavior on the field is fun to watch.

6. The British are screaming up the medal table with rowing, sailing and cycling events in full swing.

Interesting note: The countries of the G8 are all in the Top 10 medal count with the exception of Canada.

Charlatan 08-17-2008 02:10 AM

Canada just won rowing 8s... nice! I think we now have 7 medals. Thankfully the drought is over.

It's cool to hear the Canadian national anthem after all this time abroad. Also good to see the team singing it.

yellowmac 08-17-2008 08:19 PM

Watching Bela Karolyi on NBC is just about the best unintentional comedy I've ever seen.

... that's really all that needs to be said. :)

jorgelito 08-17-2008 08:35 PM

Here we go!

1. USA Girls Gymnastics grabs silver and bronze as Romanian takes the gold in floor routine. The Chinese continue the meltdown and are surely headed for some work camp for their humiliating performance.

2. The Jamaican ladies sweep the 100m Sprint! Woo hoo what a race! Good job Jamaica.

3. Tragedy: Chinese track star Liu Xiang withdraws from the 110m hurdles due to his persisting achilles injury. What a terrible exit on the most important stage for the Chinese in what must be a devastating moment for Liu. That clears the way for Cuba in an almost certain gold medal victory.

More later...

Charlatan 08-18-2008 06:47 AM

Canada just won silver in the equestrian team show jumping.

...oh and US won gold.

jorgelito 08-18-2008 04:44 PM

More!

1. USA Men sweep 400m hurdles! Nice!

2. I didn't notice this until this morning. Somehow this was buried deep beneath other stuff. But the Chinese men have been absolutely dominant in gymnastics and fantastic to watch. Currently 5-5 in gold medals. It's quite the feat but has somehow escaped coverage. I guess the ladies hysterics and drama is more newsworthy.

3. Gebreselassie regrets withdrawal from the marathon. Beijing has been blue skies and clear air so far and the Ethiopian regrets not running in the event. Gebrselassie regrets opting out of marathon - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports

Quote:

Gebrselassie regrets opting out of marathon

By Vivi Lin

BEIJING, Aug 18 (Reuters) - Marathon world record-holder Haile Gebrselassie regrets pulling out of the 42-km race at the Olympics over fears that Beijing’s air pollution would damage his health.

“I’m surprised. What do you expect from me? I was here in February, I didn’t see no blue sky,” the Ethiopian runner told Reuters on Monday in China’s capital, where the sun was shining in a slightly hazy sky.

“Since I came here everything is perfect. They should tell us,” he added with a laugh.

Asked if he was now sorry not to be running in next Sunday’s marathon, he chuckled again and said: “Don’t push me. Yes.”

Gebrselassie, a 35-year-old who suffers from asthma, announced in March that he would not participate in the marathon and called on China to deal with Beijing’s pollution problem, saying it would be a hazard to athletes.

International Olympic Committee chief Jacques Rogge said last year that endurance events such as the marathon or long-distance cycling races could be rescheduled if efforts to clear Beijing’s polluted skies were unsuccessful.

As it turned out, the opening days of the Games were marred by smoggy skies but the weather has cleared for the second week.

“It’s really good for everybody, good for all … to keep such clean air, that’s fantastic,” Gebrselassie said.

Gebrselassie ran in the men’s 10,000m in Beijing on Sunday, an event in which he has twice won an Olympic gold medal. He finished in sixth place, behind fellow Ethiopians Kenenisa Bekele and Sileshi Sihine, who took gold and silver respectively.

“Getting sixth in 10,000, it was not bad,” he said.

“The only problem I had yesterday … was just the last 250 metres, the last 300 metres. I have no more sprint. My training is mostly for a marathon.”

He said he may return to the 10,000 metres and is also keen to run in the marathon at London’s 2012 Olympics. (Writing by John Chalmers; Editing by Ed Osmond)
I think he should have remained in the race, and then pulled out at the last minute if the air was going to be bad. At the very least, China is a bit vindicated after taking so much criticism.

4. Team Redeem is unstoppable now. Gold is pretty much in hand. Maybe Lithuania or maybe Australia will be challenging. But it looks like US dominance in hoops will be restored.

5. New event to watch: Swimming marathon. This event looks interesting and I am looking forward to it. It's six miles in the open water, no-holds barred (within reason
). Should be lots of bumps and clashes along the way. I hear that the swimmers even draft each other. Sounds really exciting to watch and the finishes are really tight. This will be the only swimming event that Michael Phelps can't win the gold in cause he's not in it, haha!

6. Showdown at the track - look for Kenya and Jamaica to put on a running show as they compete fiercely for dominance.

7. Usain Bolt - got to say it again, This guy is quite the character. Hasn't been running that long and already owns everyone. He has everyone so fired up there's even talk of an NFL career as a wide receiver! I had to watch him again and I still can't believe this guy SLOWED DOWN towards the end of his race and STILL broke the record. He's only 21 too so he has time to continue wowing us. My favorite part of the victory lap: Usain runs into the stands where his family is and is hugged by mobs of Chinese dressed in "I Love China" t-shirts. One of the coolest and funniest sights on the day. The Chinese just love him there.

dlish 08-20-2008 09:55 AM

where the hells jorge?

you slacker!

jorgelito 08-20-2008 12:38 PM

D! I thought this thread had died due to lack of interest. I gave up on it I suppose. But I will restart.

Back in a minute...
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Back for more:

1. Shawn Johnson wins gold in the final girl's gymnastics individual event. Finally the girl's events are over. So much drama and hysterics, they should just remove this event before World War III breaks out.

2. Usain Usain Usain! This guys is the friggin' Michael Phelps of track! Wins gold in both 100m and 200m while breaking BOTH world records. What a freak!! And he's only 21. What's next for this captivating fellow? Has he even reached his potential yet? Scary thought...

3. Bahrain wins first Olympic medal ever! Ramzi wins 1,500 for Bahrain's first track gold - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports

Ramzi takes the gold for Bahrain in the Mens 1500m. Good job Bahrain! Read the article, he seems lie such a nice young man and well articulated too.

4. Afghanistan wins first Olympic medal ever!! - Rohullah Nikpai wins the bronze medal in Tae Kwon Do for the first Afghan medal ever. Apparently the power of prayer and divine intervention does work. Afghan medalist wins a house, cheers from country - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports

Afghanistan was one of my adopted countries for this Olympics so imagine my joy when this scrappy underdog did the impossible. I'm happy for Afghanistan and wish them all the best. It's nice for them to have a wonderful moment despite what's going on at home.

5. Alot of track injuries it seems lately. Not sure if it's par for the course, environmentally related, nerves or extreme pressures and stress. From Liu Xiang pulling out to the USA ladies hurt, track is quite the rigorous sports. Maybe you track people can share your insight here.

6. Rule Britannia, Britannia rule cycling, rowing and sailing - GB is screaming up the charts. 20+ medals in what, 2-3 days? To the delight of the English everywhere, Britain has been dominating and showing her presence in cycling, rowing, and sailing. Even some swimming events here and there. Aussies are falling behind a bit but that was kind of expected after swimming is over.

7. Israel wins their first medal of the Olympics - Shahar Zubari takes a bronze in Mens Windsurfing. Tov meod.

8. Poor sport - I've been meaning to write this up but keep forgetting to. Sweden's Ara Abrahamian's absolutely abhorrent behavior during the medal ceremony for his Wrestling event where he refused his bronze medal and left it on the mat and stormed off. This act of un-sportsmanship conduct and disrespect is appalling to say the least. well, the IOC stripped him of his medal for his behavior and it remains to be seen if further punitive action will be warranted.

Does it seem like there is more and more unsportsman-like conduct these days? Are athletes more whiners than winners? From Bela Kartolyi to Blake, there seems to be no end to whiners, complainers and sore losers. Or maybe it has always been this way.

Only 4 days left until the Closing Ceremonies.

Enjoy the Games everyone!

The_Jazz 08-20-2008 04:26 PM

joregelito, a quick note on injuries:

The rate of injuries is just being reported better. It doesn't seem any higher or lower than previous years. Remember that Michael Johnson basically got robbed of sure gold in Barcelona by a bad piece of fish. There are lots of folks that should have made their national teams but didn't because of injuries - ask Tyson Gay (not that it would have mattered) about his 200 at the Trials, which is his specialty.

jorgelito 08-20-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz (Post 2510524)
joregelito, a quick note on injuries:

The rate of injuries is just being reported better. It doesn't seem any higher or lower than previous years. Remember that Michael Johnson basically got robbed of sure gold in Barcelona by a bad piece of fish. There are lots of folks that should have made their national teams but didn't because of injuries - ask Tyson Gay (not that it would have mattered) about his 200 at the Trials, which is his specialty.

Thanks for the insight Jazz. I used to be anti-track due to all the doping scandals but now I've been paying way more attention to track these days due to my recent interest in running. I've been getting into it as I now run 4 days a week. I have noticed though, that it is an extreme discipline and that I am prone to injuries as well *grumble*.

highthief 08-20-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2510427)


6. Rule Britannia, Britannia rule cycling, rowing and sailing - GB is screaming up the charts. 20+ medals in what, 2-3 days? To the delight of the English everywhere, Britain has been dominating and showing her presence in cycling, rowing, and sailing. Even some swimming events here and there.

Duck if a Scot or Welshman enters the room (as in, England does not equal Britain, and Britian comprises more than England).

jorgelito 08-21-2008 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief (Post 2510538)
Duck if a Scot or Welshman enters the room (as in, England does not equal Britain, and Britian comprises more than England).

Oops, consider it a typo then. I knew that, I just brain farted.

With 3 days left:

1. USA wins gold in Womens' Beach Volleyball in a rain soaked match - The Chinese took the silver and beat Brazil for the bronze as well. This will probably be Misty May-Treanor and Kerri Walsh's last Olympics as both have made starting families their next goal. What a way to go out, with a golden bang.

2. Netherlands swimmer Maarten van der Weijden not only beat Leukemia, he took the gold medal for the 10k open swim. This guy is freakin' 6'9" (205 cm). Should be playing basketball. Open swim is kind of like the derby of swimming. It sounds rough with a lot of kicking, elbowing, jostling, even drafting other swimmers to get an edge. And these race seem to culminate in furious finishes. Read more about this interesting Dutch guy here: Van der Weijden wins 10K swimming race - Olympics - Yahoo! Sports

3. Chinese continue their dominance at Diving, both men and women. Racking up perfect 10s all over the place, their dives are spectacular to watch. They are 6-6 in gold medals so far and just 2 medals short of a clean sweep. Wow!

4. USA's Wang Chen makes makes it to the Women's Table Tennis quarter finals for the first time in history. The competition has been furious and full of fast action. She faces some stiff competition in the matches ahead. Table Tennis is a whole other world there. Some interesting stuff: fierce competition and rivalries.

5. Yet another gold for Great Britain in Sailing. Iain Percy and Andrew Simpson won the 4th sailing gold for Great Britain and the 6th sailing medal overall. Sailing and other water events have been really challenging due to fast currents and high winds. Many boats capsized, broke down, and many did not even finish.

6. Georgia beats Russia!!... in wrestling - despite a tense situation at home, at least Georgia is able to beat Russia in Olympic events. Georgian wrestler Revazi Mindorashvili beat Russian Georgy Ketoev decisively in a politically tinged match. The Russian declined Revazi's offered hand to help him up after the bout.


Events to Watch:

1. Team USA dukes it out with Argentina, the defending Olympic champs.

2. Mens' Track 4x400m relay - Will Usain "Lightening" Bolt and Team Jamaica take the gold giving Bolt an unprecedented 3 golds in the 100m 200m, and Relay?

3. USA Womens Volleyball - Gold medal game - the ladies face either Brazil or China in a sure to be emotional game especially after the stabbing incident. Led by coach Jenny Lang Ping, legendary Chinese volleyball icon, Team USA has quickly become the darling of the Chinese fans. I swear, for the Americans, playing in Beijing is like having home court.

4. Field Hockey. Ladies Field Hockey. I gotta tell you, I have enjoyed watching Ladies Field Hockey. The action is decent and the girls are cute (especially for athletes) and not in that gross gymnast way either. Cute feisty girls running around and grunting in skirts while banging into each other equals great entertainment. The Netherlands play China for the gold in sure to be exciting match. My money's is on the Dutch girls cause they have been dominant throughout the games. China is the underdog and will be playing for their first medal ever in this sport and have home field.

I have tried to be more varied with different countries and stuff but after 10 days or so and countless hours scouring the net for info, I gotta say, it is difficult to try and provide snippets or lines of interest for the 205 countries of the Olympic Games. I know my posts lean USA but I have made every effort to be more inclusive. Plus this is tiring :oogle::dead:.

Almost to the end!

ktspktsp 08-21-2008 03:20 AM

Well I just want to say that I enjoy your coverage, jorgelito :)

yellowmac 08-21-2008 07:58 AM

Saw the USA beat Brazil in women's soccer for the gold medal just now. That was a pretty fun game to watch overall. Great goal by USA in extra time to win it.

Bill O'Rights 08-21-2008 08:19 AM

Jorgelito, I just want to say that you are doing a great job here. And...to top it all off...not once have you tried to sell me a DVD of Michael Phelp's Olympic moments highlights. :thumbsup:

jorgelito 08-21-2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktspktsp (Post 2510710)
Well I just want to say that I enjoy your coverage, jorgelito :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights (Post 2510827)
Jorgelito, I just want to say that you are doing a great job here. And...to top it all off...not once have you tried to sell me a DVD of Michael Phelp's Olympic moments highlights. :thumbsup:

Thanks you guys, I am glad you enjoy it. I didn't mean to sound high maintenance, just was curious if it was worth the effort. :thumbsup:

Update:

1. Forgot to mention the Womens Soccer match between USA and Brazil - what made the match intriguing was the trash talking by USA goalie (keeper) Hope Solo. In a previous USA vs Brazil match, Solo was benched in favor of another goalie but the US lost 4-0. Solo ripped in to the coach and claimed she would have saved those 4 goals. In the aftermath, she was banned for her outbursts and outspokeness but reinstated with the arrival of a new coach. Her behavior was divisive to the team. However, in an exciting overtime match, USA pulled out a 1-0 win over the Brazilians and Solo appears vindicated. It was a tough talk to back up - shutting out the Brazilians is no easy task but Solo came through.

Lots of drama for the ladies of the Olympics, so much drama.

2. Upset city!! USA Softball presumed gold medal was taken away by a tenacious Japanese team that refused to give it up. In a shocker, USA dominance was ended with brilliant pitching and aggressive batting by the Japanese. In what was the last softball game for the Olympics, the Americans were devastated, in tears, and in shock.

More drama for the ladies.

3. Upset city, part 2! Both Mens and Womens 4x400m Relay teams failed to qualify for the semi-finals opening up a sure win for the Jamaicans. What happened? Both teams dropped their batons dropping them out of the races. But at least the ladies scrambled and made a bid to at least finish the race. My guess is the rain played a part but the runners themselves admitted to poor focus and a freak happenstance.

4. Upset city, part 3! - Dutch ladies defeat USA for Water Polo gold! Looks like we Americans are eating a ton of humble pie tonight. Yikes! The #1 ranked USA women were left in tears and bitter disappointment.

Note to self: Never take anything for granted and always play to win.

yellowmac 08-22-2008 05:52 AM

Yeah, seemed like a pretty terrible day for most USA teams yesterday. I mean, being upset in softball like that, especially with the possibility of it never coming back again (2016 at the earliest) will sure leave a bitter taste in all of the team member's mouths. That really sucks, but on the other hand, kudos to Japan for playing their hearts out and showing that Goliath can really go down.

On the other hand, the men's water polo team for the US has surprisingly advanced to the gold-medal game. So kudos to them. Add to that another beach volleyball gold, and gold medal matches coming up both indoor volleyball contests... hopefully the men's team can win gold to help in the healing over what happened at the beginning of the games.

Ok, off to watch me some Redeem Team action...

ktspktsp 08-22-2008 05:59 AM

Woooot! Iceland just beat Spain 36-30 in the handball semifinals. The whole office was watching the game :). It will be a gold or a silver medal in the end, the final is against France on Sunday!

abaya 08-22-2008 06:33 AM

ÁFRAM ÍSLAND!!!!!!!!!!!

GO ICELAND!!!!!!!!!

We have only won 3 medals in the entire history of the Olympic games. Unbelievable that we are about to win a gold or silver in a team sport--men's handball. Stay tuned on Sunday, folks!!! :D

highthief 08-22-2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgelito (Post 2511071)
3. Upset city, part 2! Both Mens and Womens 4x400m Relay teams failed to qualify for the semi-finals opening up a sure win for the Jamaicans. What happened? Both teams dropped their batons dropping them out of the races. But at least the ladies scrambled and made a bid to at least finish the race. My guess is the rain played a part but the runners themselves admitted to poor focus and a freak happenstance.

Those are the 4 x 100 teams, not 4 x 400. The US men could drop the baton in the 4 x 400, but would probably still win, they are that dominant at that distance.

The performance by jamaica today in the men's 4 x 100 was sublime, destroying a long standing record in track (since 92 I think) by 3/10ths, which is a lot.

Strange Famous 08-23-2008 09:26 AM

What about the South African girl with one leg competing (and competing well) in the 10KM swim? Du Toit is her name... good for her. Everyone was talking about the "blade runner" guy who wasnt quick enough to get in the team, and this girl is actually out there competing in one of the toughest events in the games with half the kick of everyone else, and more than holding her own. Fair play to her I say.
-----Added 23/8/2008 at 01 : 31 : 37-----
Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief (Post 2511435)
Those are the 4 x 100 teams, not 4 x 400. The US men could drop the baton in the 4 x 400, but would probably still win, they are that dominant at that distance.

The performance by jamaica today in the men's 4 x 100 was sublime, destroying a long standing record in track (since 92 I think) by 3/10ths, which is a lot.

I know it sounds dodgy at first... but I wonder if the US team disqualified themselves on purpose rather than face Jamiaca again? US would have been a lock for silver if they got the baton round, but maybe they couldnt take being blown away by the lightening bolt again?

I mean, it must be bad enough having to face an angry, frustrated Asafa Powell with something to prove on the last leg (and without Tyson Gay), but with Bolt running third it must be hopeless.

I know it sounds stupid, and it cant be true... but Im half sure that AFTER Asafa crossed the line Usain Bolt started racing towards him to celebrate and he got over the line before the team that finished 8th.

It cant be true!

It cant be true... but I really did seem to see it!

snowy 08-24-2008 11:38 AM

This interactive medal count map from the NYTimes is really cool to look at: Olympic Medal Count Map - 2008 Beijing Olympics - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com One of the neatest things about it is that it gives you a really good idea of just how many nations around the world are participating in the Games these days.

Tully Mars 08-24-2008 12:07 PM

The Olympics are big down here, really big. Some of the athletes trained right here in Progreso and some of the trails were held here as well. One of the high divers is from Merida. The locals have followed them almost in a fever pitch. that fever went off the charts when Mexico took the Gold in one of the men's weight classes for taekwondo. After a Mexican lady took another gold, also in taekwondo, the streets filled with cars sporting Mexican flags and honking horns. It looked like Chicago after the bulls won the NBA finals. Well expect for the over turned burning cars and riots.

On a side note I guess someone from Afghanistan took the Bronze in taekwondo. Was Afghanistan's first ever Olympic medal. My neighbor told me "I guess you guys haven't blown up the whole country, least not yet. Either that or they trained somewhere else."


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