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Hitchcock · 03-29-2005, 06:47 PM

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...503290393/1004

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2 Women Charged in Death of Boyfriend

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published Tuesday, March 29, 2005

LAND O’ LAKES — Two Pasco County women have been charged with murder in the love-triangle slaying of their boyfriend.

Pasco County sheriff’s deputies say Jerome Selby, 47, was drugged, tied up, strangled and bludgeoned at the Moon Lake Estates home that he shared with the women. Selby’s longtime companion, Peggy Abbott, 37, and roommate Melody Samion, 32, were being held without bail at the Land O’ Lakes jail.

The women confessed to giving Selby a prescription drug overdose in his beer. After he fell to the floor, one of the women held a pillow over his face, and both strangled him with a swimsuit string.

Samion hit Selby over the head three times with a pot, the women taped garbage bags over his head, and one of them held his nose.

Deputies were alerted Saturday after Samion called her sister to tell her what happened.

The victim and both women had criminal records.

A neighbor said she heard Selby threaten Abbott more than once and last heard him early Saturday.

“They were laughing and talking, and he said, ’We’ll see what you two do.’ Then it was just quiet after that,” the neighbor said.

These chicks really wanted to make sure the bastard was dead. Let's see, after they had already drugged, smothered, strangled and bludgeoned him, they pinched his nose and bagged his head using garbage bags with tape.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that he was already dead by the time they bagged his head up, but you have to admit that it's a nice touch, though.

It's the little details that make this story so great, like strangling him with a swimsuit string

I especially love the neighbor's quote: "They were laughing and talking, and he said, 'We’ll see what you two do.' Then it was just quiet after that."

We need to nominate Jerome for a Darwin Award.

Seanland · 03-29-2005, 08:48 PM

Sounds like they killed him like 6 times, crazy bitches..

skier · 03-29-2005, 09:03 PM

I wonder if they tried to kill him before, and failed. And this time, by golly, they would get it done right.

k925 · 03-31-2005, 01:15 AM

When did it become OK to use the term "White Trash" here?

The article didn't even mention what color the women were.

If they were black, would it be a "Black Trash" murder?

Most surprisingly, this thread has been up for two days now, and nobody else has been offended?

Stare At The Sun · 03-31-2005, 01:33 AM

Yeah, not to sure about the "white trash murder". I can just imagine how well "N*gger murder" would go over.

Hoorah for double standards.

However, in regards to the original article, that is truly fitting of the term "overkill".

flat5 · 03-31-2005, 04:41 AM

They ARE trash.

tecoyah · 03-31-2005, 05:16 AM

While I am sure people were offended by the term.....and it seems more an issue with the post starter rather than a description of the article,we have not bothered to edit this simple because it does not go into the realm of insult by our standards. If indeed it meets this criteria to our membership....we have this little Icon, down next to the "Post Reply" button, red in color.....that allows them to inform us of distasteful threads.

Just to let you know.

03-31-2005, 05:26 AM

I find the term 'white trash' offensive. Seems to be an American term . Seems to be used to discribe people who are poor like 'trailer trash' does.

It insinuates that if you're poor then you're automatically that way because you're lazy and thouroughly deserve to be where you are.

Can you not be poor and be an honest law abiding person?

Its a horrible term .

Midnight_Son · 03-31-2005, 05:53 AM

Sometimes you just need to thin the herd and I imagine he had it coming.

analog · 03-31-2005, 09:30 AM

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Selby’s longtime companion, Peggy Abbott, 37, and roommate Melody Samion, 32, were being held without bail at the Land O’ Lakes jail.

They will be represented by Mrs. Butterworth, and Aunt Jemimah will be taking the stand to testify against them. The victim is survived only by his mother, Mrs. Dash. When reached for comment, an unidentified friend of the women simply wept and said, "Parkay".

Oh- and we don't need that kind of thread titling, it's just unnecessary.

raeanna74 · 03-31-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lin

I find the term 'white trash' offensive. Seems to be an American term . Seems to be used to discribe people who are poor like 'trailer trash' does.

It insinuates that if you're poor then you're automatically that way because you're lazy and thouroughly deserve to be where you are.

Can you not be poor and be an honest law abiding person?

Its a horrible term .

Of course you can be poor and a law abiding person. Some poor people work two or three jobs just to keep going. The terms 'Trailer Trash' and 'White Trash', in my mind refer to the segment of poor or mobile home residents who are poor BECAUSE of their laziness, or criminal tendencies.

Plus calling these people white trash gives us other white folks the freedom to think we're not capable of it because we're not white "trash", were just white.

I'm not saying it's right to label anyone. These are just reasons that it happens. In this case I'm not offended because what they did was trashy no matter what color they are.

StanT · 03-31-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lin

I find the term 'white trash' offensive. Seems to be an American term . Seems to be used to discribe people who are poor like 'trailer trash' does.
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Its a horrible term .

The term is intended to be derogatory. As raenna says, it's more about attitude, than income level.

Maybe Springerite is a preferable term?

In any case, it seems that 3 low lifes removed themselves from the gene pool.

rockzilla · 03-31-2005, 10:08 AM

Kinda reminds me of Rasputin the Monk. He was poisoned and shot by some aristocrats, when that didn't work, he was beaten and shot some more. Then they tied him up and threw him in a river. He managed to untie himself, but still drowned. Tenacious little bugger, isn't he?

TM875 · 03-31-2005, 12:18 PM

First of all, I would just like to know the reason that these women felt the need to kill the man so...desparately...that they would go to such extreme measures. Maybe he did something to warrent it...?

Anyway, with reference to the now deleted thread title....grow up people. Offensive? Everything can be deemed offensive by someone. We're all big boys and girls here, we should be able to handle it if someone calls a CERTAIN person a certain name. People have become far too oversensative about silly PC stuff like this.

0energy0 · 03-31-2005, 12:29 PM

Dam. Remind me never to get involved in a love triangle, especially with girls like these two.

JamesB · 03-31-2005, 12:29 PM

What was it that I heard about a woman's scorn - let alone TWO of them? ...

Fire · 04-01-2005, 01:06 AM

sounds like that country song, what was it? oh, yeah "earls gotta die" anybody else notice the simmilarity- Course, in the song it was certainly justified....

fulltiltgonzo · 04-01-2005, 04:30 AM

I imagine they went to such extreme measures because he ate the last moon pie, the pick-up was up on blocks, and he refused to set down the PBR, leave the trailer, and walk down to the Piggly-Wiggly to get more...

shimmerae · 01-14-2008, 08:07 PM

I would like to answer some questions for all of you. I spent time with Peggy and her lover and I can tell you first hand this girl was driven to do what she did. for the time they lived as a couple she tried for years to leave him and he would drag her back with threats to kill her. He beat her for years. There were other things she did to him besides what is listed. she burnt his body with cigs, stabbed his eyes out with a screw driver and had sex with his dead body while it lay on the bed. Her and her lezbo girl friend Melody did all of this + so much more that has not been told. I knew Peggy out side of jail as well and she had every reson to kill him. He wouldn't let her be and he almost killed her a few times. If you were beat for years and were trapped and no matter were you ran away to that man tracked you down and almost beat you to death so he could keep you to control you would you not kill him too?

Ustwo · 01-14-2008, 08:10 PM

Thanks for sharing.

Shauk · 01-14-2008, 08:13 PM

thats what the police are for.

resorting to screwdrivers and necrophilia? she's got every reason to be locked up, christ.

ngdawg · 01-14-2008, 08:41 PM

You can screw a dead guy??

I think she made her point with the strangling and bludgeoning. If that post was an attempt to defend her actions, it failed.

QuasiMondo · 01-14-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmerae

I would like to answer some questions for all of you. I spent time with Peggy and her lover and I can tell you first hand this girl was driven to do what she did. for the time they lived as a couple she tried for years to leave him and he would drag her back with threats to kill her. He beat her for years. There were other things she did to him besides what is listed. she burnt his body with cigs, stabbed his eyes out with a screw driver and had sex with his dead body while it lay on the bed. Her and her lezbo girl friend Melody did all of this + so much more that has not been told. I knew Peggy out side of jail as well and she had every reson to kill him. He wouldn't let her be and he almost killed her a few times. If you were beat for years and were trapped and no matter were you ran away to that man tracked you down and almost beat you to death so he could keep you to control you would you not kill him too?

Can we verify the validity of this? Sometimes I'm just too skeptical for my own good.

albania · 01-14-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ngdawg

You can screw a dead guy??

An erection after death is sometimes referred to as angel lust. So I suppose if you wished in some cases you could. Pretty sick shit though.

Ustwo · 01-14-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by QuasiMondo

Can we verify the validity of this? Sometimes I'm just too skeptical for my own good.

Well oddly this person only joined to post this, in a 3 year old or so thread.

So either this person was googling to post this or its a current member out to troll but its WAY to odd a troll.

Its so wacky I'd inclined to think its possibly real.

shimmerae · 01-14-2008, 09:16 PM

You can believe what ever you want. I know what I said is the honest to goodness truth. Well I guess you have to just know me to be able to say i am a liar or not. People asked a question and i answered it.

The reason I joined this form less then an hour ago was because I was doing a search on Peggy to see if any thing had been posted on the internet yet because for some reason she isn't in the department of correction data base but her girl friend is. I was wondering what was going on with her case because last I had heard from her personally when I was in there with her was she was set for trial. She told me she was looking at the gas chamber or maybe death. She was put on meds while in there because she would go off on you in a heart beat if you look at her wrong. Verify it well go to jail and ask her if she knows a girl named Jean and if I knew her from the out side and go ahead and ask her if what I said is true. I really could care less if you believe me or not sweetie. I joined to answer all of your WHITE TRASH questions. And honestly do you think that the press is going to let go of all of the details? For one I know for a FACT that 6 people are testifying against her because she went around the jail telling people about her case and they walked out free because of it or some with a lesser sentense. My best friend who had a child with a heart condition sat in jail on stupid charges and they set her free because she is going to testify against Peggy and guess what. Peggy knows she is getting the boot she told my friend every thing she needed to know so she could tell her lawyer so she could go home to her baby. And she did. I was surprised to see this topic posted to be honest I really wasn't sure what I was going to find. And yes both girls are white. Peggy has long brown hair and brown eyes she is skinny and doesn't take shit from any one in jail. She will tell you to your face she took it for 27 years from a nigger and no way in hell she will take it from you. These are her words not mine. She dated her BLACK boyfriend of 27 years and Melody came along and Peggy fell in love with her. When she told him he blew up and beat her almost to death. I came to her house about 3 hours after it happened. If she called the cops he would beat her more and tell her he would kill her. They both did drugs which is how they met Melody one night doing crack. and the drugs she slipped him in his drink were valumes and once they seen him starting to dose off they started what they had planned for years. Peggy even told me it was going to happen way before it did but I never belived her because she was so tiny and she never really had a chance to fight back against him. So now my next step is to contact the county records and find out exactly what is going on with her case because I need to know where Peggy is. As much of a crack head and screwed up girl she is because of her abuse she went through I like the girl and I can't blame her. I wouldn't have done what she did but i could see blowing his brains out with no problems.

Willravel · 01-14-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmerae

I would like to answer some questions for all of you. I spent time with Peggy and her lover and I can tell you first hand this girl was driven to do what she did. for the time they lived as a couple she tried for years to leave him and he would drag her back with threats to kill her. He beat her for years. There were other things she did to him besides what is listed. she burnt his body with cigs, stabbed his eyes out with a screw driver and had sex with his dead body while it lay on the bed. Her and her lezbo girl friend Melody did all of this + so much more that has not been told. I knew Peggy out side of jail as well and she had every reson to kill him. He wouldn't let her be and he almost killed her a few times. If you were beat for years and were trapped and no matter were you ran away to that man tracked you down and almost beat you to death so he could keep you to control you would you not kill him too?

Excusing murder is for bad lawyers and revisionist historians. Or liars.

Murder is wrong. Neither Peggy nor "her lover" had the authority to take a life.

shimmerae · 01-14-2008, 09:23 PM

well maybe that is how you see it but I tell you this if some one treated me like I seen him treat her and her friends I would have killed him to.

Willravel · 01-14-2008, 09:30 PM

"Murder is wrong" isn't just how I and other sane people see it, it's how the law sees it. It's not self defense if you drug someone, tie him down, and slowly beat him to death. That's murder, and it's wrong unless you're either temporarily insane or a sociopath.

Normal people provide evidence to the police and get the guy convicted. Wife beaters aren't popular in prison.

shimmerae · 01-14-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

Well oddly this person only joined to post this, in a 3 year old or so thread.

So either this person was googling to post this or its a current member out to troll but its WAY to odd a troll.

Its so wacky I'd inclined to think its possibly real.

Yes I did Google Peggy Abbot Murder look it up. Like I said I am an old friend of hers. Sense it has been 1 yr sense I have heard from her over in D600 Pod if you want her cell number it was 603 to be exact. I can name off a few others who also spent time in there with us if you like you might be able to look them up to check dates we were all locked up together to see if that is proof to you. LOL I really didn't join your DRAMA fourm to argue with you people. I wanted to answer the person above who said I wonder why she did it. well I answered that and then I get called a liar. wow LOL do I care if you believe me no because I know all of the details. Some I can not talk about because some of the details if told online such as here are spoke about could worsen things. Only those 6 people who are going to stand in court and tell the Jury will be allowed to tell these details and only in court. If I tell them it could hurt the 6 people and give any one else the upper hand. Say you go to jail and say you know these details and you go tell your lawyer so you can get off easy, but Peggy never told you. Not only is it a lie it would be wrong. Not that Peggy would probably care but if some of these grusome details were out then well any one could try to get off easy and then her case could be dropped I'm not really sure. What I do know is she is still waiting trial. I was also in there with the girl who killed her baby and tried to kill her older son. She had them in her back seat of her car and gave them some pills to eat the older boy was able to puke them up but her 2 year old wasn't. she really thought she was doing them a favor LOL. Oh and when i said she had sex with his dead body i didn't mean she put his dick in her okay her and her Girl Melody (who is chubby) rubbed them self all over his naked body until they got off and they did other things to his body you could never imagine. Some times you have to think out side of the box sweetie. Yes a dead pecker would be limp. So yes it wouldn't be able to do much for you. But take in mind men who work with the dead. How many of you know much about that? Do you have any idea how many dead bodies get molested and screwed once in the morge? Hmmm nasty i know but it happens. The devil rules the world so what do you expect?

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Originally Posted by willravel

"Murder is wrong" isn't just how I and other sane people see it, it's how the law sees it. It's not self defense if you drug someone, tie him down, and slowly beat him to death. That's murder, and it's wrong unless you're either temporarily insane or a sociopath.

Normal people provide evidence to the police and get the guy convicted. Wife beaters aren't popular in prison.

You must be a man i take it... LOL
I can tell you from experiance that being beat for years can make you a nut, drive you to do things you normally wouldn't do. Peggy went to the cops many times. Had many restraining orders on him and they put him in jail many times (Hense they have records) and he kept coming back for more. He had a control issue and he HAD to be able to control Peggy. Lots of things are not right sweetie but it doesn't stop people from doing them. I'm sure your not perfect so why act like it. I never said Peggy was sane I said she is a nut case but she is so because of many things. One because of being beat for 27 years and 2 because of her drug use which i really think is what kept her there. He kept her so drugged up most of the time so he could abuse her and rape her. I remeber going over one night to see how she was doing and she was in a pool of blood under her bottom. I called 911 and when they came I heard one of the cops (Mr. Williams) say oh not again. Hmm I thought damn how often do they come out here? I only knew Peggy for about 4 years before this happened. I seen it coming and so did every one else. If you back a dog in a corner so many times, it's only a short time before he bites.

shimmerae · 01-14-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

"Murder is wrong" isn't just how I and other sane people see it, it's how the law sees it. It's not self defense if you drug someone, tie him down, and slowly beat him to death. That's murder, and it's wrong unless you're either temporarily insane or a sociopath.

Normal people provide evidence to the police and get the guy convicted. Wife beaters aren't popular in prison.

You must be a man i take it... LOL
I can tell you from experiance that being beat for years can make you a nut, drive you to do things you normally wouldn't do. Peggy went to the cops many times. Had many restraining orders on him and they put him in jail many times (Hense they have records) and he kept coming back for more. He had a control issue and he HAD to be able to control Peggy. Lots of things are not right sweetie but it doesn't stop people from doing them. I'm sure your not perfect so why act like it. I never said Peggy was sane I said she is a nut case but she is so because of many things. One because of being beat for 27 years and 2 because of her drug use which i really think is what kept her there. He kept her so drugged up most of the time so he could abuse her and rape her. I remeber going over one night to see how she was doing and she was in a pool of blood under her bottom. I called 911 and when they came I heard one of the cops (Mr. Williams) say oh not again. Hmm I thought damn how often do they come out here? I only knew Peggy for about 4 years before this happened. I seen it coming and so did every one else. If you back a dog in a corner so many times, it's only a short time before he bites.

Willravel · 01-14-2008, 09:50 PM

Being beat up once only requires a phone call to a crisis center or the police (I've volunteered for crisis hotlines).

People aren't dogs, and there is no logical explanation for the women in the article above.

Cynthetiq · 01-14-2008, 09:50 PM

Thank you for coming to our forums and digging up an old thread. You've made your point of answering the question you've wanted to answer however you found it.

I'm locking this thread since it seems to be descending into a bad place.

Welcome to our neck of the woods, and if you have any other contribution to our community it is welcome.

03-29-2005, 09:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
skier Rawr! Location: Edmontania	I wonder if they tried to kill him before, and failed. And this time, by golly, they would get it done right. __________________ "Asking a bomb squad if an old bomb is still "real" is not the best thing to do if you want to save it." - denim

03-31-2005, 01:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
k925 Tilted Location: Inside an econobox	When did it become OK to use the term "White Trash" here? The article didn't even mention what color the women were. If they were black, would it be a "Black Trash" murder? Most surprisingly, this thread has been up for two days now, and nobody else has been offended? __________________ I can has furburger?

03-31-2005, 05:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	While I am sure people were offended by the term.....and it seems more an issue with the post starter rather than a description of the article,we have not bothered to edit this simple because it does not go into the realm of insult by our standards. If indeed it meets this criteria to our membership....we have this little Icon, down next to the "Post Reply" button, red in color.....that allows them to inform us of distasteful threads. Just to let you know. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

03-31-2005, 05:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Midnight_Son The Cover Doesn't Match The Book Location: in a van down by the river	Sometimes you just need to thin the herd and I imagine he had it coming. __________________ SWM, tattooed, seeks meaningful tits and beer. Enjoys biker mags, pornography, and Sunday morning walks to the liquor store. Winners of erotic hot dog eating contests given priority.

03-31-2005, 12:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
TM875 Addict Location: Amish-land, PA	First of all, I would just like to know the reason that these women felt the need to kill the man so...desparately...that they would go to such extreme measures. Maybe he did something to warrent it...? Anyway, with reference to the now deleted thread title....grow up people. Offensive? Everything can be deemed offensive by someone. We're all big boys and girls here, we should be able to handle it if someone calls a CERTAIN person a certain name. People have become far too oversensative about silly PC stuff like this. __________________ "I've made only one mistake in my life. But I made it over and over and over. That was saying 'yes' when I meant 'no'. Forgive me."

03-29-2005, 08:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Seanland Psycho Location: Ontario, Canada	Sounds like they killed him like 6 times, crazy bitches..

03-31-2005, 01:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	Yeah, not to sure about the "white trash murder". I can just imagine how well "N*gger murder" would go over. Hoorah for double standards. However, in regards to the original article, that is truly fitting of the term "overkill".

03-31-2005, 04:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
flat5 Very Insignificant Pawn Location: Amsterdam, NL	They ARE trash.

03-31-2005, 05:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lin Guest	I find the term 'white trash' offensive. Seems to be an American term . Seems to be used to discribe people who are poor like 'trailer trash' does. It insinuates that if you're poor then you're automatically that way because you're lazy and thouroughly deserve to be where you are. Can you not be poor and be an honest law abiding person? Its a horrible term .

03-31-2005, 10:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
rockzilla Junkie Location: The Kitchen	Kinda reminds me of Rasputin the Monk. He was poisoned and shot by some aristocrats, when that didn't work, he was beaten and shot some more. Then they tied him up and threw him in a river. He managed to untie himself, but still drowned. Tenacious little bugger, isn't he?

03-31-2005, 12:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
0energy0 Insane Location: Title Town, USA	Dam. Remind me never to get involved in a love triangle, especially with girls like these two. __________________ Is the juice worth the squeeze?

03-31-2005, 12:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
JamesB Insane Location: Ottawa	What was it that I heard about a woman's scorn - let alone TWO of them? ... __________________ -- apt-get install spare_time --

04-01-2005, 01:06 AM	#17 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	sounds like that country song, what was it? oh, yeah "earls gotta die" anybody else notice the simmilarity- Course, in the song it was certainly justified.... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

04-01-2005, 04:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
fulltiltgonzo Upright	I imagine they went to such extreme measures because he ate the last moon pie, the pick-up was up on blocks, and he refused to set down the PBR, leave the trailer, and walk down to the Piggly-Wiggly to get more... __________________ I venture to suggest that patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime. - Adlai Stevenson

01-14-2008, 08:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
shimmerae Upright	Peggy I would like to answer some questions for all of you. I spent time with Peggy and her lover and I can tell you first hand this girl was driven to do what she did. for the time they lived as a couple she tried for years to leave him and he would drag her back with threats to kill her. He beat her for years. There were other things she did to him besides what is listed. she burnt his body with cigs, stabbed his eyes out with a screw driver and had sex with his dead body while it lay on the bed. Her and her lezbo girl friend Melody did all of this + so much more that has not been told. I knew Peggy out side of jail as well and she had every reson to kill him. He wouldn't let her be and he almost killed her a few times. If you were beat for years and were trapped and no matter were you ran away to that man tracked you down and almost beat you to death so he could keep you to control you would you not kill him too?

01-14-2008, 08:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Thanks for sharing. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

01-14-2008, 08:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	thats what the police are for. resorting to screwdrivers and necrophilia? she's got every reason to be locked up, christ.

01-14-2008, 08:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	You can screw a dead guy?? I think she made her point with the strangling and bludgeoning. If that post was an attempt to defend her actions, it failed.

01-14-2008, 09:16 PM	#26 (permalink)
shimmerae Upright	You can believe what ever you want. I know what I said is the honest to goodness truth. Well I guess you have to just know me to be able to say i am a liar or not. People asked a question and i answered it. The reason I joined this form less then an hour ago was because I was doing a search on Peggy to see if any thing had been posted on the internet yet because for some reason she isn't in the department of correction data base but her girl friend is. I was wondering what was going on with her case because last I had heard from her personally when I was in there with her was she was set for trial. She told me she was looking at the gas chamber or maybe death. She was put on meds while in there because she would go off on you in a heart beat if you look at her wrong. Verify it well go to jail and ask her if she knows a girl named Jean and if I knew her from the out side and go ahead and ask her if what I said is true. I really could care less if you believe me or not sweetie. I joined to answer all of your WHITE TRASH questions. And honestly do you think that the press is going to let go of all of the details? For one I know for a FACT that 6 people are testifying against her because she went around the jail telling people about her case and they walked out free because of it or some with a lesser sentense. My best friend who had a child with a heart condition sat in jail on stupid charges and they set her free because she is going to testify against Peggy and guess what. Peggy knows she is getting the boot she told my friend every thing she needed to know so she could tell her lawyer so she could go home to her baby. And she did. I was surprised to see this topic posted to be honest I really wasn't sure what I was going to find. And yes both girls are white. Peggy has long brown hair and brown eyes she is skinny and doesn't take shit from any one in jail. She will tell you to your face she took it for 27 years from a nigger and no way in hell she will take it from you. These are her words not mine. She dated her BLACK boyfriend of 27 years and Melody came along and Peggy fell in love with her. When she told him he blew up and beat her almost to death. I came to her house about 3 hours after it happened. If she called the cops he would beat her more and tell her he would kill her. They both did drugs which is how they met Melody one night doing crack. and the drugs she slipped him in his drink were valumes and once they seen him starting to dose off they started what they had planned for years. Peggy even told me it was going to happen way before it did but I never belived her because she was so tiny and she never really had a chance to fight back against him. So now my next step is to contact the county records and find out exactly what is going on with her case because I need to know where Peggy is. As much of a crack head and screwed up girl she is because of her abuse she went through I like the girl and I can't blame her. I wouldn't have done what she did but i could see blowing his brains out with no problems.

01-14-2008, 09:23 PM	#28 (permalink)
shimmerae Upright	well maybe that is how you see it but I tell you this if some one treated me like I seen him treat her and her friends I would have killed him to.

01-14-2008, 09:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	"Murder is wrong" isn't just how I and other sane people see it, it's how the law sees it. It's not self defense if you drug someone, tie him down, and slowly beat him to death. That's murder, and it's wrong unless you're either temporarily insane or a sociopath. Normal people provide evidence to the police and get the guy convicted. Wife beaters aren't popular in prison.

01-14-2008, 09:50 PM	#32 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Being beat up once only requires a phone call to a crisis center or the police (I've volunteered for crisis hotlines). People aren't dogs, and there is no logical explanation for the women in the article above.

01-14-2008, 09:50 PM	#33 (permalink)
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