*Wonders what's with all the Midnight bashing*

When you air out your dirty laundry, you shouldn't be surprised when people complain about the stink. :)

the discussion in this thread makes about as much sense as this does:

Wow...all this over a little box at the top of a screen, that is so very much smaller than the Big Box just above it....and only a click away.

*tec goes into AOL chat so he can watch the professionals act like autistic children*

I will own up to my childhood. There was a point when I really liked Vanilla Ice- and I think some of you who say otherwise are liars. lol

A1A- BEACH FRONT AVENUE!

*let the whole video play*

ubertuber: nope. im here. i'm not as easy to get rid of as LS.

Analog: dirty laundry? now you DONT want me airing out dirty laundry. lol that would take a new thread.

gotta love it when the "higher ups" bash the members. dosent it make you feel all warm and fuzzy everyone? can you FEEL the love? *rofl*

Wow...... thats all I can say, just Wow. Ok, I will add unfucking believable.

I don't see anyone bashing you. I see a fairly measured response based on your public spectacle of hatred for another member.

Heck, believe it or not, I've been at odds with a few people here from time to time- I know, I know, ME? But yes, it's happened. I can't remember anyone actually making public declarations of hate over it. That's just inappropriate, and small. We may have been at each other's throats in a thread, but not making announcements about how much they don't like someone.

What!! The shoutbox is gone?!?! OH NO!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...is/sp_ahhh.gif

Please...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...is/panties.gif

I was thinking the exact same thing. ;) And I've got you by...a couple of years. :D

I'll give you that perhaps it's inappropriate, but would have been FAR more so to have come out name calling, and taking jibes at someone whose comments were not aimed at you analog.

I don't think I'd call it public. No names have been offered up.

Didn't you people watch A Christmas Story last year?

ehem, the double dog people


...carry on:surprised:

Everyone's easy to get rid of. We just like to make more work for ourselves by giving people a chance to change.

Never saw it MM. sorry.

Halx: oh yeah? and when being different is met by your staff calling them names? I suppose thats acceptable behavior then?


*note* anyone that knows me or has ever actually spoken to me - would have found the hot poker comment intensely amusing, and it wouldnt have started this VERY goofy mess.

I was....never mind

I know what you're saying, but I don't think a lack of name actually makes it ok... it would just be "totally unacceptable" instead of simply "immature, classless flaming".

but I dont have any on!!!!

this is going to go the same way other threads do...the mods will chant the same mantra, paraphrasing each other and not understand why some of us simply dont and wont use chat

those "some of us" will find other ways of communicating

and why hasnt crompsin come in here yelling about werewolves and such? :)

Its time for a group hug, I want BOR next to me.:wave:

Long as I get his other side :icare:

Man, those Vanilla Ice guys really knew how to dance.

I wish that kind of dancing would make a comeback.

I would just like to take a moment in this thread to explain a few things. First off, none of this is about bashing a member or is personal. My statements were merely to point out that as members of TFP, I'd like to hold higher standards and grow. So when I attack an attitude that isn't conducive to the very strands of DNA that TFP is composed of, it's not an attack on the person nor is it any way bashing. It's simply to point out that we need to be aware of attitudes that can negatively affect the community as a whole. While I may not always use the correct manner of getting my point across, I assure you that it's innocent and is purely done in the manner of see TFP continue to grow and thrive.

I think the entire mod and admin team feels the same way.


As for mod's chanting the same mantra, the decision has been made to kill the shoutbox.. so we can either keep complaining or we can use chat when we aren't at work (if you can't currently) or we can do as shani said and find the other ways to communicate.

post removed by pig. i stopped, collaborated and listened - and i do not want to get involved in this shitbird melodrama. the conversation occurring here will more than likely have no discernable effects on the underlying dynamics at play.

Excellent point JinnKai. I concur. terribly talented, those vanilla ice dancers. lol



OMG - Pig is a total genius. and a smart staff member could have/should have killed this thread ages ago

I'm getting an erection just thinking about it.:eek:

Oh we understand. Do YOU understand why we killed the shoutbox regardless? No, all the mods are having fun in this thread because we're all having a discussion amongst ourselves in a separate location and we all have our opinions on the matter. Evidently, a lot of us agree with each other (despite the fact that we're a very diverse group) and are kinda of boiling over because we REALLY want to say whats on our minds because we REALLY don't like the sub-plot to this discussion. Sure, you could say we're overpowering and this should all be handled by one mod and the rest should shut up... but like I said.. we REALLY wanna say something.

All kidding aside, just say it then.....

does it matter whether I understand or not? Some of us has expressed in public and in private why the shoutbox is better.and why we wont use the chat...dont see anyone saying they understand those reasons, we just get told..."come in to chat its no different"

well...yeah it is......cant you understand that?

I already said we did.

Our response is that we don't want the shoutbox to be a part of the TFP's offerings anymore.

then I will hush....on this subject anyway

I still want the group hug with BOR and Dave

oooh shani. i understand and concur. its a totally different bird, and im being told how freaking immature i am, when the imms that have said so could have responded to my post with "shame you feel that way, you might (but how are we to know) be missed in chat. oh well. your loss" and moved the hell on, but , they didnt, encouraging this lovely tangled mess that this thread has become

honestly, shani i don't understand the difference at all. they both facillitate real-time conversation. the only difference i can see is that you can't see who is watching in #chat, whereas you have a member list in chat. aside from that, i see no difference. i can see issues if you can't access chat from work...but then, you probably shouldn't be 'shouting' on a site with 'sex, philosophy and political discussion' in the html metadata if that's your work policy, no? this intangible issue of 'intimacy' and i think tec said 'a coffee shop vs. a bar' or something...i just can't see it. that's not to say it's not there for some of y'all, but i don't understand it.

the only thing i can see is a group of members not wanting to interact with another group of members. and that's possible to do in chat. just ignore who you want to ignore. i do it all the time. i haven't read a word that jumpinjesus has written in weeks - that dingy little fucker. so i don't get it.

i do think it would be interesting for hal or the equivalent to speak the mods mind on this subject, be it from the 'admin' position or from the position of 'long time member,' personally.

Damn....I knew his staff was Big.....but, IT CAN TALK?


*tecoyah bows before the talking mamba king*

I think thats pretty clear, I do understand that some members preferred the shoutbox over chat, but its Hal's board. I understand his side too, and why it may be for the best to eliminate the box.

I need a drink, its been a rough day for me, all the way around.

ROFLMAO. you're such a dork tec. hahahaha

I have the phrase,

'Live from New York it's Saturday Night!!!'

in my head. :)

I am certainly no Halx eqivalent, nor a Mod....but from experience I can tell you the primary goal of every member of TFP staff is to further this community, and help it grow (thus the evolution). At times this entails making descisions that are unpopular with some, but it is extremely rare that such moves are done in a vacuum, and NEVER without the best interests of the main body of members in mind.
If anyone decides to look at this from a community view, rather than a personal click they might enjoy it is relatively clear this is an attempt to bring us all together, not rip us apart. Though a few are certainly upset with the removal of the shoutbox, this too shall pass, and bitching about it does nothing to change the reality. I am in the chatroom right now, and though I admit I liked the shoutbox more than mIrc...I am willing to go back and try to reconnect with my friends there.

I suggest you try it as well.

Im only going to address part of this:

there are of those of us that are allowed to be online at work and as long as Im not having naked people on the screen it doesnt matter what forum I have up. The way the firewall is set up we cannot view anything that streams or anything that is chat related, the java for the chat here simply will not initiate.

I have been in chat many times.....I simply dont enjoy it, its not just IRC, I dont enjoy aol chat rooms or yahoo or any other group that has one, so why participate in something I dont like? Hell if I wont go in one with Alan Rickman as a guest Im not going in one just because its a TFP room, Im perfectly capable to going back to bugging people with PMs lol....with the shoutbox you can go back and see what you've missed, you cant do that with the other. Its no different from my own boards when I provided chat and SB...we'd have a group that liked one over the other and thats fine....Im not at all dissing anyone that enjoys the "chat" format....its just not for me

WEREWOLVES, ZOMBIES, VAMP...

Wait... this isn't... the box... of... shouting.

...

(sigh)

Please report all instances of the staff calling you names directly to me, via PM.

pig, SecretMethod70 gave a pretty good summary of why there is no more shoutbox. Would there be more satisfaction if it came from me?

I feel much better now :icare: maybe you could just pm me that once a day ahahahahaha