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View Poll Results: Who are the worst drivers? (check all that you feel apply)
Females, in general 28 31.82%
Males, in general 4 4.55%
Teenagers 35 39.77%
The elderly 58 65.91%
People with kids in the car 11 12.50%
People on cellphones 59 67.05%
People with an average or better car 4 4.55%
People with obviously old/beat-up cars 4 4.55%
Anyone driving an SUV/minivan/etc 17 19.32%
Anyone driving a two-door sporty car 2 2.27%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
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Old 10-20-2006, 11:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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BUS DRIVERS

Holy shit! Those guys don't give a fuck about nothing.

I was on a bus once that got into an accident with ANOTHER bus. They don't even care about eachother!

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I don't drive, I ride a bike, but I had a scary incident...

I was riding my bicycle, and crusing along pretty good (15 MPH) when an elderly asian guy ZOOMED past me, and came up to the intersection where he needed to turn.

He arrived there about 5 seconds faster than I got there, of course I slowed down to let him turn, but he had slammed on his brakes and was waiting for me to go by. A car behind him (also going fast) slammed on HIS/HER brakes, and laid on the horn.

All the while, I've stopped and am forced to get across in a hurry on the highest gear.

I'm... confused and pissed that this driver felt the need to literally ZOOM past me, just to slam on his brakes and wait for me to go across. Why didn't he drive normally and turn after me, or just gone ahead and turned? It's not like I would've kept cycling right into his car.

I am a considerate biker, but damn some of these drivers....
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Old 10-20-2006, 11:44 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I voted elderly, teens, and cell phone users, but not in that order. A lot of it does depend on the driver, I've talked on my phone for years while driving, but never had an accident while doing it. The only major accident I've had was while i was a teen, came upon a turn doing about 90 mph.

Elderly people tend to go slow enough that they become a moving hazard on the road. Teens go fast enough that they become a barely visible blur on the road, combine those two categories with cell phone use and your asking for trouble.

I consider myself to be a good driver, not neccesarilly a legal or courteous one, but I do know what I'm doing, where my car is at, and where people are around me. I know how to handle my car and what its limits are. I also know how to alter my driving as the environment changes, I'm one of the slowest drivers you'll see on the interstate in heavy rain, heavy fog, or snow.
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Old 10-21-2006, 03:35 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I voted elderly, teens, and cell phone users ...
Yup. Kids are (largely) simply stupid behind the wheel - God knows I was when I was 16, old people (who can't see beyond their cataracts and whose reaction times are like mine when I've had about 18 drinks - and yes, I know I'll be one of those old people in another 30 years!), and anyone self-absorbed enough to think that driving does not require there full attention (i.e., cell phone users).
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:08 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I know of only two elderly drivers who actually stopped driving and got rid of their cars because they knew they couldn't drive any more. One was my grandfather at about 70. The second was our neighbor who was driving while she was going blind(macular degeneration)-she finally figured she'd be better off without her car when she backed into someone...we bought her car from her.
I have actually seen older people too weak and feeble to walk get behind the wheel and drive off; if it takes you more than two minutes to swing your legs into the driver's seat and you need to take a deep breath to pull the door shut, it's time to hand over the keys!
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:55 AM   #45 (permalink)
 
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when i would blast around in my ultimate homeboy car, i used to think that there was something about the highway system that leads into boston that turned everyone driving it into a lunatic. but that was situational.

later, i met tad.
i wont get into a car driven by my japanese friend tad.
i dont understand why he needs to drive 50 mph up small city streets, blowing through redlights one after the other, why he cant see them....they're right in front of him and they are these big flashing things...i generally would not say much while this was happening because i was distracted by my life passing before my eyes.

i love tad, but i am not getting in a car that he is driving again.
ever.
this has less to do with his being japanese than it does to do with the fact that he is, as an individual human being behind the wheel of a car, an unbelievable menace. he really should be stopped.


but after 5 years or so of biking every day in urban spaces, i think that people who talk on their cellphones while they drive are FAR more dangerous as a group than any other. they are as a group almost as dangerous as tad is as a human being.
(this leaves aside the obvious problems with people driving drunk...)

it's really simple: if you talk on your hone while you are driving, your attention is divided.
you dont look as carefully.
you arent thinking about what you are doing: you are also thinking about dinner plans or telling the jolly fellow at the other end of the line to bite you har de har or whatever.
i cannot even begin to tell you the number of times i have been put into significant danger while riding my bike by fucktards on phones--they pull out arbitrarily from parking spaces--they turn without warning---they veer into you as you are riding---THEY DONT USE THEIR SIGNALS--they fade out of their conversation because they realize they need to do something and they just do it. they simply aren't paying attention.
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:26 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I agree that cellphone users of all ages are the most dangerous.

I notice on this poll that many consider the elderly to be the worst drivers. While that may be true, they are no where near the most dangerous. In fact the 65-69 age group is far less likely to be involved in a fatal crash than all other age groups and the 70+ age group less likely than all age groups up to about age 50. The 15-35 year olds have almost twice the number of fatal accidents per licensed driver than the elderly.
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:47 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I agree that cellphone users of all ages are the most dangerous.

I notice on this poll that many consider the elderly to be the worst drivers. While that may be true, they are no where near the most dangerous. In fact the 65-69 age group is far less likely to be involved in a fatal crash than all other age groups and the 70+ age group less likely than all age groups up to about age 50. The 15-35 year olds have almost twice the number of fatal accidents per licensed driver than the elderly.
Is that per 1,000 or as a whole, statistically speaking? I ask because there are more drivers under 30 on the road than over 70 and man for man, just wonder who is more at risk? The numbers of fatal accidents in a proportionately larger group might sway the final numbers, reflecting a total not consistent with a portion of the population.
As I stated earlier, there seems to be a rash here of teenage road fatalities and, very unfortunately, most times they're dying 3 or 4 to a car. I'd suspect that elderly could be equally as bad, but outnumbered.
Years and years ago, reports were surfacing that, while the elderly weren't dying as much in accidents, they WERE the cause of them more often than any other single group. This possibility, though, does NOT make this mother any less nervously anxious about the forthcoming age of licensing her children will WAY too soon have.
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:39 AM   #48 (permalink)
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ngdawg, the following is from the NHTSA statistics. It is based on the number of licensed drivers per age group. While it shows which groups are most likely to be involved in fatal crashes it does not take into account the number of miles driven. The young probably drive much more than the elderly which adds to their fatalities but it also shows that you are more likely to be killed by younger drivers and less likely the older they get. The stats for the elderly do not increase until age 70 and even then they are much less than the younger drivers up to the 45-54 age range.
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http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd...004/809918.pdf

2003 Drivers Involved in Fatal Crashes per 100,000 Licensed Drivers.

Age Group, 15-20 = 63.8
Age Group, 21-24 = 46.3
Age Group, 25-34 = 31.4
Age Group, 35-44 = 27.0
Age Group, 45-54 = 23.6
Age Group, 55-64 = 20.7
Age Group, 65-69 = 18.2
Age Group, 70-++ = 24.4
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:45 AM   #49 (permalink)
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the worst drivers are the ones who borrow their mom or dad's bmw and think they're all that and go drag racing and all of a sudden kill someone which affects everyone. also i chose the elderly as they have slower reflexes and bad eye sights (imagine them driving in a winter storm).
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Old 10-21-2006, 12:11 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Don't you know by now.. the worst drivers are everyone who is in the way of the person who is currently driving...
Well put.

The idiot that causes me problems goes to the top of my list. And that has been many people but more often than not, a lady driving a LARGE SUV, talking on the phone and especially with kids inside. But usually they're in that monster SUV all alone. With their cell phone on their right ear trying to turn left.

The I'll have to add to the list the person that won't let you merge when there is no other option or the person that races to the front of the merge area and then expects a free pass.
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Old 10-21-2006, 02:43 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I feel kind of bad for posting this, I dont want any of you guys to think that I am a racist because I most defanitly am not. But on the road I feel that pretty much everyone who isnt white and females (white or not) are generaly the worse drivers.

EVERYONE who I have seen driving those retarded jacked up trucks or riced up cars (body kits, big fart can exhaust, lowered...) tend to be asshole drivers.

There are always excellent drivers of every race or nationality though, and TONS of terrible white drivers, so I am not saying that all of them are bad. But my girlfriend works at a warehouse with about 50% of the work force being philipino and another 40% being another nationality and 10% canadians. Picking her up and trying to make it out of the parking lot and far enough away from their to be driving with those drivers is one of the scarriest things I do. I dont know if its because they have not been driving for long or what. but its scary!
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Old 10-21-2006, 04:25 PM   #52 (permalink)
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*snip*The I'll have to add to the list the person that won't let you merge when there is no other option *snip*
This drives me insane. One of my top driving peeves. And it is epidemic here in Orlando.
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:53 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:50 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Statisticly, the worst drivers are teenagers as they cause the most car accidents per year.
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:15 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Hmmm
Car vs car accidents I've had...
1. white elderly woman - rear ends me while I'm sitting still waiting to turn.
2. white drunk woman - no lights, dark road, buckled the hood of our car so badly that I couldn't see over the hood from the passenger side.
3. black couple - not their car, no liscence (just had it pulled the day before for drunk driving), rust bucket of a car with no insurance.
4. elderly man - car full of elderly people, changed lanes on the interstate, caught our nose and sent us careening across the median and into a guard rail. The man drove on to call the police but fortunately returned.
5. elderly man - entering a 4 lane (2 lanes north, 2 lanes south) from the west while we're going north. Crosses the southern lanes, does not pause in the median, crosses the nearest north bound lane and enters our lane smacking right into our front left fender and hitting us hard enough to total our car and make it completely undriveable.

verdict - appears the worst drivers in Wisconsin are the elderly followed closely by drunk (of any race I'm sure) and the black. The incident with the black drivers was the most trouble. It took us 2 years to get our deductible back via the insurance company garnishing their wages. Had a black man even come to our door and ended up dealing with 3 confrontations with these morons. The elderly were at least apologetic for their mistakes. The Blacks were bull headed, angry, and moronic.

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snip... He says the worst are young girls/women--because they drive fast and obliviously, just not paying attention. Also often in cars that you just shouldn't drive fast--like a fifteen year old Ford Escort with bald tires going 90mph...snip
I resemble that remark

THe only reason we bought the Ford Escort is that it was cheap and good on gas. The only reason I ever drive my Ford Escort is when hubby takes one of the good cars that we have and he's got the other good car apart to work on it. I HATE driving that Escort because its too small for the little kids, and it's hardest for me to handle. I'd much rather take the Chevy Lumina.
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:45 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Oh, the Escort isn't THAT bad! I don't like driving the thing because it doesn't have cruise, A/C, a decent radio, or any power! That Olds has me spoiled!
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Old 10-22-2006, 01:02 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Oh, the Escort isn't THAT bad! I don't like driving the thing because it doesn't have cruise, A/C, a decent radio, or any power! That Olds has me spoiled!
Let me hear you say that AFTER you've buckled 3 whiny kids into 3 car seats in the back of that 2 door nightmare. Then show my your knuckles too and tell me the scraps on them AREN'T from trying to jamb your hands between the car seats to get the belts into the buckles.

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Old 10-22-2006, 05:49 PM   #58 (permalink)
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why isn't there an option for professional drivers?

I swear to god my car has almost been sideswiped by more UPS vans, and USPS vehicles than any other kind out there.

scares the shit out of me thinking that they are out there every day.
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Old 10-23-2006, 02:14 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I'm gonna amend my answer after today and say "cyclists" are the worst drivers. Only one of nine cyclists I came across at intersections today bothered to stop when they were supposed to and two almost caused serious accidents.
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Old 10-23-2006, 02:18 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Well, it seems Germans are pretty bad drivers too......

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BERLIN (Reuters) - A German motorist followed the command "Turn right now!" from his navigation system and crashed into a small toilet hut by the side of the road -- about 30 yards before the crossing he was meant to take.

The overly obedient 53-year-old from Freiburg drove his sport utility vehicle off the road onto into a building site, up a stairway and into the small toilet shack, police in the eastern town of Rudolstadt said Sunday.

It caused 2,000 euros ($2,500) worth of damage to the stairway, 100 euros damage to his car, and he was also fined 35 euros.

Earlier this month an 80-year-old motorist also chose to follow his navigation system and ignored a "closed for construction" sign on a Hamburg motorway. He then crashed into a pile of sand but neither he nor his passenger were injured.
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