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absence_of_color 07-18-2006 06:50 AM

How many of you recycle?
 
Im just curious. In many areas, recycling is mandatory, but most others, it is choice. Considering the environmental impact of not recycling versus recycling, I was wondering how many of you take that extra effort.

Come on people, make me proud!

Daval 07-18-2006 06:57 AM

I try to make the extra effort whenever I can.

captobvious 07-18-2006 07:25 AM

I recycled where I used to live because there were easily accessible recycle bins. At my current location, it's more of a hassle, so I haven't been doing it. Now I feel guilty though, so I'm going to look into it.

Ample 07-18-2006 07:29 AM

I don't and I feel really bad that I don't. Back when I was station in Washington State, they siphoned through your garbage for you at the dump. I think that is a better idea than asking people to do it on their own. Not because its more convenient for us, but its a way to make sure it gets done.

lurkette 07-18-2006 07:38 AM

We recycle. However, unless you recycle by the "rules" it doesn't do much good. You have to rinse everything out, don't include lids, don't include materials that isn't approved by your recycling company, etc. Recycling dirty or non-approved materials just wrecks the process and costs more money and resources.

absorbentishe 07-18-2006 07:41 AM

In my community, they pick up every 2 weeks, but are changing to every week in August because the demand is so high. I currently do, but in the past did not. Being lazy was my only excuse why I didn't. When we moved to where we are now, I made a full force effort to do. Every two week, I have 3 - 4 containers full of glass, plastic, aluminum, paper, etc. When I've cleaned the garage (which is full of my parents stuff), I end up with 8 containers. Thank god they take them all.

Ustwo 07-18-2006 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ample
Back when I was station in Washington State, they siphoned through your garbage for you at the dump. I think that is a better idea than asking people to do it on their own. Not because its more convenient for us, but its a way to make sure it gets done.

This is the only real viable recycling method that would have any impact.

The current method in most areas reminds me of the scrap metal drives in WWII. They didn't really do much for the war but they were promoted since it made people feel involved in helping the war effort. I think recycling is being run in the same manner. Its more about feeling and caring and teaching your kids than anything about making a real difference. Being someone who wants to see substance over symbolism I am not in favor of such methods. I also think there is something odd in that in my area (and I'll assume most others) you don't get paid for your recyclables, but they want you to do all the sorting and even cleaning. If you saved up your cans, you could take them in yourself and get money back for them, and even then its enough that the recycling plant makes a profit.

Really recycling as done in most neighborhoods strikes me as a wonderful scam. First they make you feel guilty, often they make it mandatory, then they force you to seperate, clean, and after you do this for them, they make the money off you and you get nothing but that feeling that you 'did something'. Reminds me of the Simpsons episode on recycling.

So while I applaud the motivation, I have to wonder how much of this is about saving the environment and how much is about profit.

highthief 07-18-2006 08:21 AM

Yup, we recycle. You have a limit on how many garbage bags you can put out (without paying extra) so it makes sense to shove whatever you can in the old blue bin. Paper, glass, plastic, aluminum all goes in.

Why people whine about it I have no idea. I either take a blue bin to the curb or I take another bag to the curb, it's no more effort.

Ustwo 07-18-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by highthief
Why people whine about it I have no idea. I either take a blue bin to the curb or I take another bag to the curb, it's no more effort.

Depends on the area, some have you wash things like cans and jars prior, and you have to seperate in layers.

Average_Joe 07-18-2006 08:37 AM

I've been recycling my garbage for about 15 years. One thing I noticed is that there are some types of plastic that the recycling company won't take, and this hasn't changed in those 15 years. I always believed that the number of material types that would be accepted by the recycling company would increase over time, but it hasn't happened.

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Really recycling as done in most neighborhoods strikes me as a wonderful scam. First they make you feel guilty, often they make it mandatory, then they force you to seperate, clean, and after you do this for them, they make the money off you and you get nothing but that feeling that you 'did something'. Reminds me of the Simpsons episode on recycling.

So while I applaud the motivation, I have to wonder how much of this is about saving the environment and how much is about profit.
We have to pay a fee for curbside pickup of garbage, so I do feel like I "did something"...I save myself some $$$, and I do feel good about helping to reduce the amount of garbage in landfills, but as I state in my observation above, the recycling program could be much better. It's probably not profitable for some types of materials to be recycled, and that is the main motivation of recycling companies.

snowy 07-18-2006 09:18 AM

Yes, we recycle, but here they make it easy: only glass has to be separated. Also, we live in a state with a Bottle Bill, so every aluminum can we return is worth 5 cents. The only problem with that, though, is you can't store your cans just anywhere: the bums will come along and take your cans to cash in if they are in a place where they can get at them. I'm not joking.

The truth is, recycling in our household means the difference between the large can and the small can, and so it saves us money every month, while turning cans in earns us our bottle deposits back.

frogza 07-18-2006 09:22 AM

I recycle paper and aluminum, in the small town where I live those are the only options available.

aberkok 07-18-2006 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
So while I applaud the motivation, I have to wonder how much of this is about saving the environment and how much is about profit.

Then let me enlighten you. If it was really so profitable to recycle, then it would be more widespread. As much as bleeding heart liberals like me would like to see every last thing recycled, there is just not enough of a market for certain materials, hence the reason why only some plastics are accepted. If there was really so much profit in it then there would be several companies vying for your recyclables.

It's a step in the right direction.

la petite moi 07-18-2006 09:34 AM

I recycle whenever I can- nwlinkvxd and I save bottles/cans/cardboard to be recycled. I've tried to set up a better recycling programme at my Starbucks store too, but the idea never stuck with the higher-ups.

cyrnel 07-18-2006 10:02 AM

Absolutely. A girlfriend guilted me into it many years ago and the habit stuck. If I'm pinched for time sometimes I'll discard things instead but it haunts me at night. :) My curbside averages about 50/50 garbage/recycle.

It does bother me they charge to recycle the items that are clearly profitable.

Yard debris pickup: ground up and sold as mulch for $5/yd.
Steel and other metals: Turned around for $hundreds/ton.
etc.

abaya 07-18-2006 10:17 AM

Yep, I do it as much as possible: junk mail/newspaper, glass, plastic bottles, and cardboard if they take it.

I remember going on a recycling kick when I was about 10 years old (17 years ago!) and my parents freaked out. I set up all these bags in the kitchen and they got in the way of everything... my parents went back to not recycling anything after about two days of that. :lol:

Once I finally moved out and got my own place, I've recycled as much as possible. As Cyrnel said, I feel awful if a glass bottle or plastic bottle ends up in the regular garbage... I imagine it sitting there, not rotting, not decomposing, for eons... and that's my only token to the earth? So I recycle.

Then again, you must wonder... archaeology would be rather pointless if everyone recycled in the past. :lol: Then again, their levels of consumption were so much less than ours, it's doesn't even matter.

Redlemon 07-18-2006 10:23 AM

I recycle most of the things that I'm supposed to, but some containers are too much bother to clean out; for instance, the plastic peanut butter jar. I'd be wasting too much water and time on getting it clean.

However, garbage in my area goes to a resource recovery facility (a.k.a. trash burning plant), not a landfill. There's a lot of heat value in plastic, so at least it is making good power for me.

maleficent 07-18-2006 10:42 AM

on a good day stuff makes it into the trash can...after that -i could honestly care less where it goes...

When i lived in nyc... we had recycling in our building - i think we had 20 different bins for different colored glass, and different grades of plastic.. when the sanitation trucks came around. .it all went onto the same truck to the same landfill... it was a pointless waste of time

Ample 07-18-2006 10:47 AM

Where does it go on a bad day?

Do you have a pile of trash near the ottoman? Cause I found it better to pile it near the entertainment center, less foot trafic.

NoSoup 07-18-2006 01:06 PM

I recycle, within reason.

I too, don't take the time to clean out a plastic peanut butter jar, but as long as it isn't too much of a hassle I'll rinse out whatever needs rinsing and toss it in the recycling bin.

Recycling in this area has become much, much easier over the years. We used to have to seperate clear glass from colored, aluminum cans from steel cans, different types of plastic, etc.

However, now, we can just throw anything recyclable into the bin and they sort it elsewhere.

It is mandatory in Green Bay, though.

Cynthetiq 07-18-2006 01:13 PM

our building has to recycle, they have a formula for how much total volume of refuse, less a percentage of recycleables. If the percentage isn't met it means the building tenants aren't recycling enough and the building gets fined.

stupid if you ask me because I don't necessarily have bottles to recycle every month, and I never buy newspapers.

Willravel 07-18-2006 02:00 PM

I recycle everything I can.

skier 07-18-2006 06:45 PM

I recycle a fair amount- plastics, paper (but not all), alumninum, cardboard, metals, and electronic equipment

ryfo 07-18-2006 08:25 PM

i recycle and like to wash out most cans bottles etc but at the moment where i live is in drought conditions and we are being asked not to use to much water, so now i have to decide if i wash the rubbish or myself or do i just make more landfill. Boy, decisions decisions!!

hotzot 07-18-2006 09:06 PM

I Do! I Do! "R-E-C-Y-C-L-E recycle, C-O-N-S-E-R-V-E conserve, don't you P-O-L-L-U-T-E, pollute the rivers sky or sea, or else you're going to get what you deserve"

TotalMILF 07-18-2006 09:17 PM

Our apartment complex doesn't have anywhere to collect recycleables, which makes me very sad. We used to take them to my Mom's to recycle, but it's just too much of a mess/hassle. I really wish we had somewhere nearby to recycle:-(

Infinite_Loser 07-18-2006 10:00 PM

When I was younger my brother and I used to collect aluminum cans and recycle those (It was good money for someone when they're 10 years old), but I'll admit that I haven't actively recycled since then.

I know. I'm a horrible person.

goddfather40 07-18-2006 10:02 PM

This may be just a California thing but Recycling has been part of curbside trash pickup everywhere I've lived for at least the last 12 years or so. It is the norm here. Right now, I have one large 60 gallon barrel for regular trash and another for recyclables (newspapers, bottles, cardboard, etc.), both which are issued by the trash company.

genuinegirly 07-18-2006 10:20 PM

I recycle. It's easy. The real question is: Do you compost?

Now there's the next step.

stevie667 07-19-2006 01:43 AM

I recycle, its actually amazing how much stuff builds up over a couple of weeks in our house, the car is completly full with stuff.
And until only a few years back we threw it all away, which is the amazing part. Do your bit people!

I compost all the stuff that comes out the garden (which with the current war being waged against the hedges is quite alot) but i don't compost household waste.

We do have kerbside pickup for recycling, but i always forget what day it is, and they only take plastic and paper (understandably).

Pip 07-19-2006 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by abaya
Then again, you must wonder... archaeology would be rather pointless if everyone recycled in the past. :lol: Then again, their levels of consumption were so much less than ours, it's doesn't even matter.

The recycling schemes of olden times makes us look like rank amateurs. Most of the things preserved from the past either belonged to the very wealthy or were accidently lost somehow (like arrowheads or sunken ship cargos). Most people were just too poor to throw anything useful away.

Back to the topic: We recycle pretty much everything possible, and our family does compost both garden waste and food leftovers. (The food compost is a bitch to maintain, especially in the winter.) But I do have a hard time seeing the energy save in us washing all the milk cartons.

Xazy 07-19-2006 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
our building has to recycle, they have a formula for how much total volume of refuse, less a percentage of recycleables. If the percentage isn't met it means the building tenants aren't recycling enough and the building gets fined.

stupid if you ask me because I don't necessarily have bottles to recycle every month, and I never buy newspapers.

Don't tell them, but I am bad about recylcing in our building.

Lady Sage 07-19-2006 04:01 AM

Pan and I recycle everything we can... this has made our weekly "trash" reduce itself to miniscule amounts. We could go nearly a month before we managed to have an entire garbage bag full.

Cynthetiq 07-19-2006 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xazy
Don't tell them, but I am bad about recylcing in our building.

sshhh... so am I. it'll be our little secret.

Charlatan 07-19-2006 05:52 AM

Regardless of the environment and all the benefits there. We don't have the space to continue burying our trash.

Currently Toronto ships hundreds of truck loads of garbage to Michigan to be buried. Our Wet waste and recycling programs divert tonnes of garbage from the landfills.

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Recycling is easy in Toronto.

We have one bin for all recycleables (glass, paper, plastic, cans). They get sorted at the sorting facility.

We have one bin for "wet"* garbarge. This gets turning into compost.

We have one bin for everything else. I now put out one bag of trash every other week (we are a family of four).


* Wet garbage includes:

* Fruits, vegetable scraps
* Meat, shellfish, fish products
* Pasta, bread, cereal
* Dairy products, egg shells
* Coffee grounds, filters, tea bags
* Soiled paper towels, tissues
* Soiled paper food packaging: fast food paper packaging, ice cream boxes, muffin paper, flour and sugar bags
* Paper coffee cups, paper plates
* Candies, cookies, cake
* Baking ingredients, herbs, spices
* Household plants, including soil
* Diapers, sanitary products
* Animal waste, bedding (e.g. from bird/hamster cages), kitty litter
* Pet food

Rodney 07-19-2006 05:56 AM

I recycle, because the city made it in my best interest to do so.

First, they made the standard garbage cans smaller. Then they gave us two _huge_ wheeled recycling bins, each one easily three times the size of the standard can: one is for paper, plastic, metal, and such, and you don't have to sort any of it. The city bought machines that can do most of the sorting.

The other one is for greenwaste, which includes all yard waste, fruit and vegetable waste, and even brown paper bags: anything that can be composted. The city runs its own giant compost heap.

They've done most of the heavy work for me; they'd like you to rinse stuff out, but it's not anything they dwell upon; I'll soak the occasional peanut butter jar, but that's it.

As a result of all this, I probably take my normal garbage can out to the curb every two weeks, and even then it's not really full. It's amazing how much of your trash can be recycled -- and will be recycled, if it's made easy.

The impetus for all this is a California law that made it mandatory that municipalities divert half their trash flow into recyclables. Actually, that was the first thing; the second thing was that our county, and many others, doesn't want to have to buy new landfill space in the near future. It's expensive, and it's almost impossible politically to start a new landfill. The neighbors always rise up in arms.

oberon 07-19-2006 06:00 AM

It's funny, I used to recycle bottles by habit for about 15 years. Then I moved to a state that doesn't have deposit.

I try to reuse things like plastic bags and paper, but other than that I throw away far too much every week. Perhaps at some point I'll guilt myself into paying for recycling bins in my trash pickup. Assuming they actually recycle the stuff people put in those bins.

keyshawn 07-19-2006 06:12 AM

Yup, I do. I've been really avid about it since I was 12 or 13, when I became more concerned about the environment and consumption. Over time, though, I've realized the system has its flaws (as ustwo pointed some out) but it's worth it.

There's a paper recycling company that gives you a cut of the money that they get for the paper you give them. They give you dumpsters to put it in and pick the paper up.(though, you have to have a ton or more to get any money) (they take a cut of the money, of course for the business). But hey, my high school prom ticket was a couple bucks cheaper from the money they got back from the paper.


Quote:

Originally Posted by genuinegirly
I recycle. It's easy. The real question is: Do you compost?

Now there's the next step.


Hehe, Yes, I do. It's in the backyard and been going for a few years now. It's not in any sort of nice bin or anything, just a pile that sits there. Occasionally, I'll turn it every couple weeks or so if I'm home from college.
Most of it is just grass clippings (which, iirc, slows down the compost process, because of too much nitrogen) and dead pine needles (the pile is right next to our pine tree), occasionally I'll put coffee grounds and vegetable scraps in there.
I was pretty excited a couple weeks ago when I was turning it, I found worms in there. :thumbsup:

I heard on the garden show on npr this weekend about someone who takes his fruit and veggie scraps, adds a bit of water, and takes some existing compost into an old blender, adds water, and it creates a slurry that really speeds up the composting process.

Catcha back on the flipside,
will.

avernus 07-19-2006 06:39 AM

I've been throwing all my old veg peelings and off-cuts into the compost bin. Problem is I haven't been using the right ratio of 'greens' and 'browns', so the thing smells like death. Seriously it is vomit-inducing. Having had some advice from my pa I now make sure I add 50/50 greens and browns, I also add things like toilet roll and scrunched up newspaper to make air pockets - its looking much healthier, more worms, less putrid stench.

Greens = old veg, tea bags, egg shells, etc. all high in nitrogen.
Browns = newspapers, cardboard (cut up), old clothes (cut up).

Charlatan 07-19-2006 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
So while I applaud the motivation, I have to wonder how much of this is about saving the environment and how much is about profit.

Very little of it is about profit. It depends on the material and what the market requires but there have been many years where the BlueBox system has lost money.

Business subsidizes it here. The bottlers do not have to run a deposit bottle system. In return they help finance the BlueBox.


Additionally, if we left it up to everyone to take their recycleables to the depot to get paid, very few would. Would you?

Cynthetiq 07-19-2006 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan
Very little of it is about profit. It depends on the material and what the market requires but there have been many years where the BlueBox system has lost money.

Business subsidizes it here. The bottlers do not have to run a deposit bottle system. In return they help finance the BlueBox.


Additionally, if we left it up to everyone to take their recycleables to the depot to get paid, very few would. Would you?

here's some idea as to how much money is actually flows through the recycling plans of NYC:

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What happened to glass and plastic recycling?

In February 2002, shortly after taking office, Mayor Bloomberg announced plans to cut glass, plastic, paper and metal recycling as a way to bring the city out of its $3.8 billion dollar budget deficit.

Due to public opposition the City Council worked with the mayor to save metal and paper recycling.

Recycling of glass and plastic collection was suspended beginning in July 2002. Plastic recycling returned in July 2003 and glass recycling resumed in April 2004.

Was the suspension of glass and plastic recycling a good idea?

The Department of Sanitation Fiscal Year 2001 budget had artificially inflated the cost of recycling by not accounting for the revenue from the sale of material. New York City Comptroller William C. Thompson, Jr. calculated that a more accurate reflection of the cost of recycling contracts would lower the cost of this program from the DOS' $126/ton estimate to $82/ton, resulting in a net savings to the city of $3.4 million.

In 2003, the sanitation department's budget topped $1 billion for the first time--up from $631 million. Almost all of the new cost is linked to trucking waste out of town.
NYC anticipated a savings of $51.4 million if recycling was cut. The savings estimate dropped to just under $40 million (a mere one percent of the budget deficit) with the retention of paper and metal recycling.

NYC Comptroller William C. Thompson estimated that operating a full-scale recycling program meeting diversion rates achieved in FY 2002 would save the City $16.7 million per year.

Did the cuts work according to plan?

The actual savings from cutting the glass and plastic recycling programs have been chipped away by increased costs elsewhere by seemingly unanticipated resulting problems.

The city saved only $2.6 million by reducing the number of recycling trucks (less than 2% of total truck shifts).
Comparing the number of weekly metal recycling truck shifts and refuse truck shifts, DOS actually had a net INCREASE of 47 weekly collection truck shifts, increasing DOS’ costs by about $1.4 million.

Once the cost of hauling away the larger regular garbage collections was taken into account, the city's savings amounted to perhaps only $10 million, not the $50 million the department projected last year.

In a February 7, 2003 letter to the DOS Commissioner, NYC Comptroller William Thompson requested a full reinstatement of the recycling program, finding no logical reason to continue the cuts.
Now here I cannot bring bottles and cans to the redemtion machines as I please. There are many rules so that I can get my $.05 deposit back.

So if I buy a Sam's Soda from Walmart, I cannot bring it to my local grocery store for redemption because redemption machines are keyed to read UPCs. No UPC No nickel. I can also not use the machine on Sunday. They also limit how many bottles I can recycle on each day.

Also, water bottles are exempt from this recycling program.

Val_1 07-19-2006 03:22 PM

Yep. They pick up the recyclables along with the garbage. It's co-mingled, so it's easy. I use to compost fruit/vegetable peels, but I don't really garden anymore so that doesn't make much sense.

Ustwo 07-19-2006 04:31 PM

According to that website posted by cynthetiq recycling is a 9 billion dollar a year industry in NY. Now the question is why can't NYC recycle at a profit, is it typical government inefficiency? Is it that consumer recyclables are just not worth it?

There are a lot of questions to ask, but I'd much rather see something like this market driven instead of social engineered for the obvious reason of sustainablity.

Impetuous1 07-19-2006 04:53 PM

We're not required to recycle but we do. We get nice blue bins to put our recyclable goods in exclusively and they're picked up on a separate day of the week than the regular trash. We can recycle plastic, glass, aluminum and paper but we have to make sure everything is washed off fairly well before it goes in the bin. They even gave us a reminder refrigerator magnet on what can go in the bin.

cyrnel 07-19-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UStwo
There are a lot of questions to ask, but I'd much rather see something like this market driven instead of social engineered for the obvious reason of sustainablity.

I understand profitability varies by material. Metal has a huge market since it's largely re-usable as raw. Throw it into the smelter and sell it to expansion countries. Paper and plastic are subsidized to some extent as their products don't convert as completely or cost more to return to "new" condition than do "new" product. Hopefully someone who knows this better will clarify.

Obviously scrap/salvage/processors are only motivated on the profitable items. Cities end up footing the bill between items that sell and those that don't, plus the overhead. (transport, storage, separation) They are motivated however by reclamation laws and landfill availability/costs, and at some point voters.

The situation becomes more complex as private companies have taken over service from municipalities. Our own city-run disposal operation sold to a national company about a decade ago in the interest of reduced costs and complexity. Of course, community benefits were also lowered. Away went the free spring cleaning days. Up go the disposal rates, dump rates, even for things that can be sold without processing. Hello to new service charges for things that were previously seen as neighborhood beautification services. Hello to all the other cities who now have their trash hauled to our little landfill (now far beyond its original "hillside restoration" profile) with profit going to the national who'll step out when they no longer have a free landfill to support their habit. (Do I have a bone to pick? :) )

Many sides to this thing.

Rodney 07-19-2006 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
There are a lot of questions to ask, but I'd much rather see something like this market driven instead of social engineered for the obvious reason of sustainablity.

There's sustainability and sustainability. Aside from the year-by-year costs, there's the cost of additional landfills _and_ the horrendous task of finding some neighborhood relatively near a desirable metro area that will _allow_ a landfill to come i these days. Private concerns don't tend to factor in these long-term costs. When the nearby landfill fills up, they simply cut a deal with somebody much farther away, and pass the additional hauling costs on. And those sites get further and further away.

Somebody has to do the long-term planning. The attention span of the average corporation is 'way too short -- next quarter, too often.

absence_of_color 07-19-2006 08:48 PM

I sure am glad to see a lot of people doing their part. :icare:

Someone DOES have to do the long term planning. People of old didnt have much to just throw away, everyone recycled by reusing everything they could, and there wasnt many things they couldnt. Thinking of how much civilization has modernized into using disposable products, its overwhelming at the pace in which it growed. Just two hundred years ago, people wouldnt have dreamed of just throwing things away. Thats alot of waste produced in so little time considering how long man has been upon the earth, and what about in another two hundred years, if it even lasts that long? The thought is staggering! Throwing shit away has turned into a hell of a crisis within both rural and urban areas. Land fills are filling up, with less and less areas to make new ones, and just thinking about how unhealthy it has to be for the earth and the human race to just bury trash into the ground and forget it. Its horrible. We get everything from the earth we need to survive: water, food, air, medicine, ect., a long term plan to reverse these modern bad habits must be put into action. Recycling will play a larger and larger part in getting the ball rolling to preserve what we seem to be consuming up at too much of an alarming rate.

I do recycle, too. My town is small, but they do offer curbside service if enough people in that particular area participate, and unfortunately since my town does not have mandatory law or even much awareness of the subject, most people do NOT, so the service is limited to people who actually do. I have to load mine up and take it to the center. Recently they stopped accepting glass of any kind. Imagine that! They never had any type of compost program, but that is something to write my city officials about. I recycle just about everything I can, and every time I drop it off, it makes me so sad to see all the people come through and drive past the recycling bins to the dumpster. I do what I can though, and I suppose its all I can do.

Xazy 07-20-2006 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
here's some idea as to how much money is actually flows through the recycling plans of NYC:


Now here I cannot bring bottles and cans to the redemtion machines as I please. There are many rules so that I can get my $.05 deposit back.

So if I buy a Sam's Soda from Walmart, I cannot bring it to my local grocery store for redemption because redemption machines are keyed to read UPCs. No UPC No nickel. I can also not use the machine on Sunday. They also limit how many bottles I can recycle on each day.

Also, water bottles are exempt from this recycling program.

So I can not take all the soda cans in a big truck, and drive it to Michigan, where you get .10 back? Err wait sorry that is a seinfeld episode, nm

Leto 07-20-2006 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=NoSoup]I recycle, within reason.

I too, don't take the time to clean out a plastic peanut butter jar, but as long as it isn't too much of a hassle I'll rinse out whatever needs rinsing and toss it in the recycling bin.

QUOTE]


i wonder if the ecological footprint used in washing out that peanut butter jar cancels out the benefits of recycling it? I mean in the cost of water, filtering, disposal, soap going into the environment...

Plus the plastic is such a good landfill object, it doesn't leach (all that quickly) into the watertable.

At any rate, the really hard to clean containers like PB are not acceptable in our programme (the number on the bottom isn;t 1 or 2 or 5 I think is new one).

keyshawn 07-20-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Xazy
So I can not take all the soda cans in a big truck, and drive it to Michigan, where you get .10 back? Err wait sorry that is a seinfeld episode, nm

You just have to make sure that the beer/pop/soda/etc you buy out of state is also sold at the store in Michigan where you return them to get the deposits. :D

keyshawn.

izzzzy 07-23-2006 12:12 PM

I just started using the transfer station . When we had the flooods last fall they put load limjts on the bridges by my house,so I'm kind of on mandatory recycling. Its not bad.Cans glass and plastic in one bin, paper and cardboard in another bin.Garbage goes in a compactor. Appliances, construction debris,and large items cost whatever the guy at the office says.About 20 bucks a level pickup bed full.

spindles 07-25-2006 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genuinegirly
I recycle. It's easy. The real question is: Do you compost?

Now there's the next step.

yes, I do compost. Our local municipality also collects green waste, so the larger items I can't use in the garden get picked up by the domestic waste engineers. Here we have three wheelie bins, one small one for garbage, collected each week, and two larger ones (recycling and green waste), collected on alternate weeks.

The recycling bin is not sorted by us, so paper, glass, cans and plastic all go in together. They came to the conclusion that people stuffed it up so much if we sorted it, so it is all sorted centrally now...

edit - plus they don't care what number is on the plastic - they take them all...


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