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TexanAvenger 06-16-2006 12:10 PM

The new way to make your eyes sparkle
 
http://www.niioc.nl/images/cei2.jpg
http://tattoo.about.com/od/implantsa...balljewels.htm
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Pushing the Envelope Too Far?
Henry David Thoreau once said, “The eye is the jewel of the body”. That may be true, but some people seem to be taking that quote literally, and a new wave of body art fashion is gaining attention – eyeball jewelry.

The Concept
The Netherlands Institute for Innovative Ocular Surgery (NIIOS) has devised a decorative platinum implant (JewelEye) that can be inserted under a thin membrane in the eye, which holds the implant in place. Since the membrane is clear, the implant can be seen clearly against the white of the eye. The jewels currently come in just a few shapes, but the Institute says other shapes can be requested.

That is the concept. It’s innovative, it’s edgy, it’s attractive and it was developed by ophthalmologic experts. What more could you ask for? If it’s endorsed by medical experts, it must be safe, right? Well, let’s see...how many drugs have been developed by medical experts and even approved by the FDA that were later discovered to be dangerous? How many products are recalled every year for hazards that previously passed inspection by company experts? Don’t assume something is safe just because it was developed or endorsed by “professionals”.

Clinical Trial Results
The next line of defense would be clinical trials. The NIIOS website says, “Patient satisfaction is high and no side effects of the treatment have been noticed with a follow-up of more than one year.” Well, that must mean it’s OK! If people can have no side effects or problems for over a year, then that proves it’s not dangerous, right? Tell that to the people suffering from asbestos-related illnesses – how long did it take scientists to figure out how dangerous asbestos is? Or how about lead? How many millions of homes were painted with leaded paint before they realized it was making people sick? Just because a product appears safe for a year does not necessarily make it so.

Already in Demand
Is it popular? Oh, yeah. It just came out in 2002 and already “there's a waiting list in the Netherlands of people anxious to receive the implants. And that's at a cost in U.S. dollars of up to $1,200”, according to About.com’s Vision expert, Marilyn Haddrill.

Legislators Stepping In
JewelEyes haven’t even officially hit the U.S. yet and the state of Illinois is already on the defensive, attempting to ban the procedure. As of March 6, 2005, an Illinois state committee already approved a bill to ban it, sponsored by Rep. Kevin Joyce, and is now before the House. If it passes, it could come with a penalty of up to three years in prison. Some would say this is the government sticking its Bureaucratic nose where it doesn’t belong, which may be true. Kevin Joyce serves as a perfect example of how government likes to interfere in matters of personal choice simply because it can. Is Kevin Joyce an ophthalmologic expert? Or has he researched this procedure in depth and come to a scientific conclusion that this procedure would definitely be harmful to his citizens? No. Kevin Joyce was quoted as calling the procedure “gross” and saying, "I don't think anybody should be messing with the eyeball.” Well, that sounds like a good enough reason to pass a bill that will affect over 12 million people, now doesn’t it?
After I passed the half a second of 'ew' (the same reaction I at finding out how Lasik works) I thought about how cool this could be. You'd stand out, but more subtly than with visible piercings or tattoos. They'd pretty much assure that people would look you in the eyes while speaking to you and pay attention.

Would I like some? You're damn right I would.

New, trendy procedures come out all the time. While this one is particularly interesting to me, I think the bigger issues posed by the article are the safety and legal issues. I don't think the safety one bothers me that much (though I do have a mental image of a couple of stars floating around the outside of somebody's eyeball like a morbid snowglobe) but it could make for an interesting discussion.

The political issue here is strong too. Can Illinoisans like Mr. Joyce dictate cosmetic procedures like this to be outlawed because he's got an issue with people messing with their eyes? Personally, I think people like Joyce can keep their noses out of what I do with my eyes. It's an interesting form of self-expression like piercings or tattoos. It should be regulated as such (though piercing has a way to go as well) but not banned.

ngdawg 06-16-2006 12:17 PM

States can legislate anything they want. Did you know tattoos are illegal in South Carolina, but riding motorcycles without a helmet isn't? Never understood that line of thinking....Of course, laws get challenged and some get struck down, but this being against any law might be ok. Having said that...
Ew. As someone who has bad eyes, both in sight and in just being bad all around, doing that would probably not be in my best interests. I also have this thought that after a night of drinking, an eye jewel up against bloodshot squinty eyes would NOT be the most attracive feature a person could have....

Cynthetiq 06-16-2006 12:21 PM

Tattoo parlors were illegal in NYC for many years because of a Hep scare that never seemed to go away... now tattoo parlors are everywhere.

Personally it's not for me. I wear contacts, it's a pain enough for that. Not to mention, you get 2 eyes, that's it, it's not like you can get another set or have second chances if there is an infection or problem. BOOM you're blind and no amount of money makes up for it.

Gatorade Frost 06-16-2006 12:39 PM

I think they're cool. I wouldn't get one, but they're cool. I thought the article was a little stupid and not very representative of the eye-sparkling technology. Just a "Hey, this is doctor approved, BUT IT COULD STILL KILL YOU" bitching.

Gilda 06-16-2006 12:45 PM

Nope. I wear colored contacts on occasion, but I think I'll stick with liner and shadow for my eye decorations.

Gilda

Meditrina 06-16-2006 12:58 PM

Not for me, thanks. But each to his/her own (I think that is the right phrase). I can't stand anything going near my eyes. Biggest reason why I won't wear contacts.

maleficent 06-16-2006 01:01 PM

Not a new trend...

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=51803

still ick...

Dilbert1234567 06-16-2006 01:11 PM

Personally I would never do that, mainly because it’s hard to look manly with a shinny heart in your eye... but beyond that, I’m all for people doing what ever they want to with there own bodies, the government should just stay out of it. On the flip side, people who do dumb things like this should not go crying to the government when there eye falls out because they tried to save a buck by going to a doctor that went to "Hollywood Upstairs Medical College"...

Where has all the personal responsibility gone, must we legislate everything?



Kudos to the people who get the reference (with out Googling it)

raeanna74 06-16-2006 01:59 PM

Why do we have to make an implant?? When I first heard of this I expected them to be discussing a new kind of contact that instead of making your eyes yellow or all black or goofy colors would add jewels to your eyes. Why don't they do that anyway. It would be more fun I think. You'd be able to change your eye jewels. Contacts are getting cheap enough that you could do this fairly easily. It would be safer and reversable.

Cynthetiq 06-16-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by raeanna74
Why do we have to make an implant?? When I first heard of this I expected them to be discussing a new kind of contact that instead of making your eyes yellow or all black or goofy colors would add jewels to your eyes. Why don't they do that anyway. It would be more fun I think. You'd be able to change your eye jewels. Contacts are getting cheap enough that you could do this fairly easily. It would be safer and reversable.

they do...

http://www.1-contact-lenses-consumer.../wild_eyes.jpg

CSflim 06-16-2006 02:11 PM

yeeshh! That gives my the jibblies!

There's no way I would get this done. I wonder what happens when you have a piece of metal stuck in your eyeball for twenty years? Can they get infected or anything? These things are permenant right? At least with tatoos, you can cover them up, and are usually gotten in relatively discreet places. But can you imagine going to a job interview with a lump of platinum stuck to your eye?

As for government regulation: I would be against it. It has passed medical trials with no apparent problems and with no further evidence to go on, it seems that there is no reason to ban something just because it makes you feel squeamish. People should be given all the information available though; that the trials were only for a year, and the procedure has only been going on since 2002, and hence long terms effects are not yet known. That way people can make up their own minds about whether they want to take the risks.

The only thing in favor of regulation I would say is to prevent youngsters getting the procedure. I don't know what the law in the US is for getting tattoos but I think that over here in Ireland it is something along the lines of ilegal for under 16s, over 16 but under 18 you need a parent present. Perhaps something similar for this eye jewelery is a good idea?

3Z3VH 06-16-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by raeanna74
Why do we have to make an implant?? When I first heard of this I expected them to be discussing a new kind of contact that instead of making your eyes yellow or all black or goofy colors would add jewels to your eyes. Why don't they do that anyway. It would be more fun I think. You'd be able to change your eye jewels. Contacts are getting cheap enough that you could do this fairly easily. It would be safer and reversable.

For the same reason people get tattoos instead of just drawing stuff on their arm with a marker.

Fremen 06-16-2006 05:40 PM

What happens when you get something in your eye, and you start rubbing your eye vigorously, then, scratch!....you suddenly have a big tear in your cornea? :eek:

No thanky, Spanky! Not for me.

Now, Cyn's post of the colored contacts look intriguing.

raeanna74 06-17-2006 06:07 PM

I knew they did these but none of these are jewels. They're contacts that change the way your iris appears. A contact that's larger with a jewel on the side of it where the white of the eye would be, this would look much the same.

Plus - temporary tattoos or markers aren't really comparative to decorative contacts because the contacts would last much longer. Also tattooing has been done for centuries and we KNOW what side effects and complications can occure. Besides the immediate risk of infection at the time of the tattooing there's little long term risk. With these implants we do not know yet what the risk is. I'd prefer to have much more testing before I'd ever consider a procedure that's not necessary.

ChistledStone 06-17-2006 06:33 PM

Query: What happens when you walk through a magnet. Or have a MRI? I skimmed the article but are the metals non-magnetic?

*CS imagines having a piece of metal ripped out of his eye when someone put a magnet to his head*

3Z3VH 06-17-2006 08:52 PM

An MRI would basically kill you if that metal had any iron whatsoever. That little piece of metal would turn into a dentist's drill :D

Irishsean 06-18-2006 05:23 AM

Decent quality body jewelry is non-magnetic. Trust me, on a regular basis, I have upwards of 4 ounces in my body at any one time.

MySexyAssJ 06-22-2006 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gilda
Nope. I wear colored contacts on occasion, but I think I'll stick with liner and shadow for my eye decorations.
i agree. i think that placing some sort of "jewel" into your eyeball is doing a little too much.. besides, i couldn't imagine the pain or discomfort of that. i think occasional colored contacts and eyeshadow, liner, will do for me :)

frogza 06-22-2006 11:48 AM

Seems silly to me. But then again, I don't understand the whole body enhancement trend anyway.

WhiteDevil 06-22-2006 09:41 PM

I think it looks cute, though also, eye implants not my bag. As for regulation, it's ridiculous. People do stranger things to themselves, let alone ones that have been found to be at least somewhat medically sound.

little_tippler 06-23-2006 04:02 AM

oh no....a foreign body implanted in your eye, such a sensitive part of you...unnecessary surgery...possible complications over the years....it's your EYES, those things that you SEE with? no way. Stupid.


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