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Sun Tzu 12-14-2008 01:57 PM

Breaking News- Journalist Throws Shoes at President Bush
 

canuckguy 12-14-2008 02:07 PM

good arm on that guy!

Walt 12-14-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckguy (Post 2572901)
good arm on that guy!

Apparently not as he went 0-2. Great reaction time for President Bush, not so much for the Secret Service.

In all seriousness, an Iraqi journalist attempted to assault the President of the United States. I can't begin to tell you how angry that makes me. I take solace in knowing that the journalists actions have embarassed President al-Maliki and his personal security detachment on an international stage. Im betting they will feel obligated to handle this matter quietly and internally.

Good post, Sun Tzu, but this probably would have been better suited for the "General Discussion" forum.

JamesB 12-14-2008 02:55 PM

Too bad he didn't make contact ;)

Craven Morehead 12-14-2008 02:56 PM

http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~rk2o/omgshoes.gif

hunnychile 12-14-2008 03:29 PM

Too bad he didn't use a pile of horse shit.

Charlatan 12-14-2008 03:35 PM

Where were the secret service? After the guy ran out of shoes, Bush was still just standing there. I didn't see any human shields leap into place.

That seemed rather odd to me.

Baraka_Guru 12-14-2008 03:36 PM

We've known for years that Bush is good at dodging things.

Willravel 12-14-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2572935)
We've known for years that Bush is good at dodging things.

+10 points.

We also would have accepted "Who throws his shoe? Honestly! You fight like a woman!" or "Gellin' like a felon."

bhgraiders1 12-14-2008 03:46 PM

http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/777...66a0cf1c3b.gif

uncle phil 12-14-2008 03:49 PM

wish i could make bhg's post my avatar...

Walt 12-14-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2572936)
+10 points.

We also would have accepted "Who throws his shoe? Honestly! You fight like a woman!" or "Gellin' like a felon."

Not impressed.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7802/hs006ig6dx8.jpg
-----Added 14/12/2008 at 07 : 17 : 13-----
The irony of posting an Odd Jobs pic in response to a guy with a young Sean avatar just hit me. Unfortunately, it was unintentional.

uncle phil 12-14-2008 04:24 PM

younger sean with a cig in his mouth...

couth...

Willravel 12-14-2008 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak (Post 2572947)
Not impressed.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7802/hs006ig6dx8.jpg
-----Added 14/12/2008 at 07 : 17 : 13-----
The irony of posting an Odd Jobs pic in response to a guy with a young Sean avatar just hit me. Unfortunately, it was unintentional.

Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!

(I couldn't miss that opportunity)

Walt 12-14-2008 05:10 PM

Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.

Tully Mars 12-14-2008 05:19 PM

Honestly can't believe the guy had the balls to do it. But this is what we've become... sadly the vast majority of people think it's alright to throw shoes at the POTUS.

Walt 12-14-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tully Mars (Post 2572970)
Honestly can't believe the guy had the balls to do it. But this is what we've become... sadly the vast majority of people think it's alright to throw shoes at the POTUS.

Im inclined to agree, though I wouldnt say "vast majority". Its confined to a select few, like this douchebag. And like this douchebag, their actions are largely self correcting. Saddams old torture chambers still exist...they are just under new management. Have fun, Fuck Face!

Tully Mars 12-14-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak (Post 2572971)
Im inclined to agree, though I wouldnt say "vast majority". Its confined to a select few, like this douchebag. And like this douchebag, their actions are largely self correcting. Saddams old torture chambers still exist...they are just under new management. Have fun, Fuck Face!

I'm going on world wide opinion polls. I don't think it's confined to a select few at all. I can't remember the last time I ran into someone from a country other then the US that didn't have something completely negative to say about Bush Jr. Hell, I'd say well over half of the US citizens I run across think very negatively of him. Personally though as long as he's POTUS I'm not in favor of this type of thing. Simply out of respect for the office and the country. Come Feb. 2009 people can throw sewage at him for all I care. If they do I certainly hope they don't miss.

dlish 12-14-2008 07:24 PM

dudes..

seriously..its the biggest insult to throw a shoe at someone in arabic culture. actually anything shoe related.

if you told someone that they arelower than your shoe, all hell's going to break loose.

doesnt make it right.. 2nd shot he had interference. it would have been 1-1 i think.

maybe some baseball team is looking for a pitcher?

roachboy 12-14-2008 07:43 PM

gee, it's astonishing that someone from iraq would be a bit miffed at george w bush in late 2008.

i want to talk about why it is probably not ok to throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states. were it ok to throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states, then this particular action would have no meaning because anyone could throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states and so either most people wouldn't (because if you can, what's the point?) or most people would (because, well, you can)--either way, were it ok to throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states, this particular shoe or two would not be remarkable. so it has to be true that throwing a shoe or two at the president of the united states is not ok because otherwise this footage would not be remarkable, and regardless of what you think of it politically, that is pretty remarkable footage.

Baraka_Guru 12-14-2008 07:59 PM

qed

dlish 12-14-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy (Post 2573011)
gee, it's astonishing that someone from iraq would be a bit miffed at george w bush in late 2008.

i want to talk about why it is probably not ok to throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states. were it ok to throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states, then this particular action would have no meaning because anyone could throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states and so either most people wouldn't (because if you can, what's the point?) or most people would (because, well, you can)--either way, were it ok to throw a shoe or two at the president of the united states, this particular shoe or two would not be remarkable. so it has to be true that throwing a shoe or two at the president of the united states is not ok because otherwise this footage would not be remarkable, and regardless of what you think of it politically, that is pretty remarkable footage.


im going to read this a few more times i think

ryfo 12-14-2008 09:20 PM

why waste a good pair of shoes?

kurty[B] 12-14-2008 09:33 PM

Has anyone looked at the good side?

At least this is proof that Iraq has freedom of the press. That's one step in the right direction to establishing a democracy.

ASU2003 12-14-2008 10:43 PM

So, which Western TV network will have his interview first? Do you think he will be seen like the Tiananmen Square Tank guy in Iraq?
http://pekingduck.org/archives/tiananmentankman2.jpg

At least it wasn't a gun. That would have been stupid and a really bad thing. And while this wasn't exactly a great thing, at least he expressed his (and many Iraqis) feelings without using an extreme form of terrorism.

For the next press conference in the US, he should have the secret service remove all of the press and media's shoes before they enter the room. :)

Halx 12-14-2008 11:06 PM

I am interested in finding out where he will be in 2 months.. 3 years? What does throwing a shoe at the president do to one's life?

RetroGunslinger 12-14-2008 11:12 PM

George Bush will never look at Shoe Carnival the same way again.

abaya 12-15-2008 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy (Post 2573011)
that is pretty remarkable footage.

No pun intended?

Tully Mars 12-15-2008 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx (Post 2573043)
I am interested in finding out where he will be in 2 months.. 3 years? What does throwing a shoe at the president do to one's life?

I think it could go one of two ways. Either a substantial prison sentence filled with unkind, unpleasant treatment. Or they pin a medal on him. Never know he could end up in Abu Ghraib or one of Saddam's old palaces. I don't think even al-Maliki thinks that much of Bush Jr. these days. But my guess is whatever they do will be under the radar and quite.

Anxst 12-15-2008 05:16 AM

I hope he doesn't get in too serious of trouble over the incident. I think it was a well thought action that showed his disagreement with how President Bush has treated his country, that had no real possibility of causing lasting harm.

Aladdin Sane 12-15-2008 06:53 AM

When the shoes start flying at BHO, I'll be back here to see if opinions have changed.

roachboy 12-15-2008 07:12 AM

i don't see this as a routine occurance.
i don't see george w bush as being like alot of other presidents of the united states.
i'm kinda surprised that anyone does, even those few supporters which remain out there in the world.

little_tippler 12-15-2008 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy (Post 2573125)
i don't see this as a routine occurance.
i don't see george w bush as being like alot of other presidents of the united states.
i'm kinda surprised that anyone does, even those few supporters which remain out there in the world.

I agree with this. Though I don't condone the attack, I can see why the guy did it. It may not have been diplomatic but I'd be inclined to give this journalist a break. Look on the bright side, at least it wasn't a loaded gun.

YaWhateva 12-15-2008 07:51 AM

Apparently the journalist had a lot of close relatives die in the invasion. I think only throwing two shoes at him showed a hell of a lot of self restraint.

filtherton 12-15-2008 08:01 AM

I am offended that someone who wasn't an American would show such disrespect for a leader of a foreign nation.

Tully Mars 12-15-2008 08:20 AM

The BBC this morning is reporting 1000's demonstrated to have this journalist released from custody

BBC Reports

Don't think his feelings are in the minority by any means.

I think he lost family in the war and wasn't happy about-

Quote:

"This is a farewell kiss, you dog," he yelled in Arabic as he threw his shoes. "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."
I was on the phone last night with a friend and he much pretty parroted "The Dude" above. In that he hopes this guy gets throw in some Iraqi prison and tortured repeatedly for years. I find it ironic that the same people that seem to use the prisons, in part, as justification for the war are now advocating the use of these very prisons and torture rooms. So insult or cross Saddam, he throws you in prison, tortures you and it's wrong. Very, very wrong, so very wrong. Throw a couple shoes at Bush Jr.? Open them prisons doors up boys! We got fresh meat for ya! Hell ya! Hope they string him up by his balls*.

*direct quote from my phone conversation last night.

filtherton 12-15-2008 08:37 AM

I think we should invade his country on false pretenses.

Cynosure 12-15-2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YaWhateva (Post 2573139)
Apparently the journalist had a lot of close relatives die in the invasion. I think only throwing two shoes at him showed a hell of a lot of self restraint.

He only threw two shoes because he only had two feet.

;)

abaya 12-15-2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by little_tippler (Post 2573129)
Look on the bright side, at least it wasn't a loaded gun.

Given the tight security of the press conference (no doubt), I don't think a gun would have been an option. His shoes were probably all he had to throw at the president, other than maybe his tape recorder, notebook, or some other article of clothing. I think it was a pretty smart tactic of protest, given those constraints... essentially non-violent, but extremely symbolic given the local meaning of throwing one's shoes at someone you despise.

Tully Mars 12-15-2008 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filtherton (Post 2573171)
I think we should invade his country on false pretenses.

Yes, gawd yes! Let's do a little "shock and awe" on their asses... Hey! Wait just a minute. We already did that. Pfft- you're several years, tens of thousands of dead people and several hundred billion dollars behind the times with that idea.

Gez, seriously read a newspaper once and a while will ya?

dlish 12-15-2008 01:00 PM

the latest im hearing is that the reporter was kidnapped by militants a while back, and when he was released was interogated by either the iraqis and/or americans and that he's bitter about it.

that and losing family members in the war. who wouldnt be pissed.

i know that many americans would like to do a lot worse than throw their shoes at Dubya.

in saying that though. he's a foreign dignatory. show some respect.

i wonder what would have happened if he actually connected. it think it would have been a lot worse for the journalist. what do you guys think?

on a lighter note...coincidentally, both shots hit the american flag.

hal - in 3 months time he'll be playing for the dodgers.

YaWhateva 12-15-2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynosure (Post 2573175)
He only threw two shoes because he only had two feet.

;)

Touché

Rekna 12-15-2008 01:17 PM

This just in the administration has created new security measures. Americans are no longer allowed to wear shoes in public. The administration has aptly named this as the no-longer-have-to-remove-shoes-at-the-airport act of 2008.

Rejoice!

dlish 12-16-2008 01:49 AM

looks like his pitching career is over. hes got a broken arm and broken rib.

i can only assume he slipped in the bathroom

Tully Mars 12-16-2008 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2573460)
looks like his pitching career is over. hes got a broken arm and broken rib.

i can only assume he slipped in the bathroom


Maybe he had those injuries then they arrested him.

Ch'i 12-16-2008 12:48 PM

Credit goes to b3ta.com. Fantastic...http://www.laughters.org/wp-content/.../bushtrix2.gif

cheezhead 12-16-2008 02:44 PM

http://media.omfgif.com/gif/0319176d...5ba47cbfw8.gif

:lol:

dc_dux 12-16-2008 08:32 PM

The guy should have practiced Sock and Awe first:

Sock and Awe!

I was still only able to get Bush 3 times in 30 seconds

Sun Tzu 12-16-2008 09:34 PM

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...e-throw-06.gif


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...e-throw-14.gif

I cant make it out clearly, but it seems like Bush has a smile on his face.

Ch'i 12-17-2008 12:19 AM

That's the self-appreciation-for-dodging-a-shoe/oh-imma-getcha-now! smile.

cheezhead 12-17-2008 04:50 AM

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...9368755235.gif

Tully Mars 12-17-2008 05:06 AM

Hey guys we're getting off topic here. How about we start posting these games/clips in "found on net" and reserve this thread for actual discussion.

Destrox 12-17-2008 08:29 AM

Found the extra edited items far more on topic than the thread.

Love it.

Bush found it comical.

Tully Mars 12-17-2008 09:27 AM

Gez, talk about a dumb post. THIS IS THE FOUND ON NET THREAD, disregard the sleepy/ignorant moderator and carry on with your posts.

dlish 12-17-2008 11:16 AM

sure..i'd offer my daughter to an erratic journalist. who wouldnt?!

Quote:

Egyptian man offers daughter to Bush shoe thrower Muntazer al-Zaidi | World Breaking News | News.com.au

AN Egyptian man is offering his 20-year-old daughter in marriage to Iraqi journalist Muntazer al-Zaidi, who threw his shoes at US President George W. Bush.
Saad Gumaa said he had called Dergham, al-Zaidi's brother, to tell him of the offer.

"I find nothing more valuable than my daughter to offer to him, and I am prepared to provide her with everything needed for marriage," Mr Gumaa said.

His daughter, Amal Saad Gumaa, said she agreed with the idea.

"This is something that would honour me. I would like to live in Iraq, especially if I were attached to this hero," she said.

Al-Zaidi's gesture has struck a chord across the Arab world, where Mr Bush is widely despised for invading Iraq in 2003 and for his support for Israel.

Amal is a student in the media faculty at Minya University in central Egypt.

Al-Zaidi's response to the proposal was not known.

The reporter was wrestled to the floor after throwing the shoes during a press conference by Mr Bush in Baghdad on Sunday.



The reporter shouted in Arabic: "This is your farewell kiss, you dog''.

In Iraqi culture, throwing shoes at someone is a sign of deep contempt.

Al-Zaidi is being held for allegedly insulting a foreign leader, a charge that carries a maximum of two years in prison.

The Iraqi Government has branded al-Zaidi's actions as "shameful" and demanded an apology from his employer Al-Baghdadia Television, which in turn was calling for his immediate release from custody.

Walt 12-17-2008 04:39 PM

Eh, at the end of the day Im sure that President Bush had a good laugh, downed two fingers of expensive double malt, banged his MILFish wife and dreamt about whatever it is that powerful men dream about. al-Zaidi probably laid on a dungeon floor naked and hog-tied, bloody, broken and bruised and prayed for deaths sweet release.

Hope it was worth it, fuckface.

dc_dux 12-17-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak (Post 2574207)
Eh, at the end of the day Im sure that President Bush had a good laugh, downed two fingers of expensive double malt, banged his MILFish wife and dreamt about whatever it is that powerful men dream about. al-Zaidi probably laid on a dungeon floor naked and hog-tied, bloody, broken and bruised and prayed for deaths sweet release.

Hope it was worth it, fuckface.

I think the larger issue than fuckface is the response of tens of thousands of Iraqis and others across the Middle East who share that man's anger at Bush and, by transference, at America.

roachboy 12-17-2008 04:49 PM

like it or not, walter, this is a significant symbolic action.
it is a little piece of theater that indicates something of the damage that the bush administration has done, not only to the credibility of his administration but also to the credibility of the united states. everything about it is a reflection of that damage--that it happened at all is a reflection of it.

to be clear, because you've not been part of the collective for that long, i opposed the iraq war from the outset--but i take no pleasure in this sort of thing, in the fact that it happened, because it is the same damage that, to my mind, is fundamental to the economic disasters we collectively now are living through, and these disasters function to deepen the damage.

Byrnison 12-17-2008 05:48 PM

I found the Iraqi Ambassador's comments on this subject interesting and thought-provoking. Apparently some Code Pink people were holding up signs to free the shoe-thrower, and it prompted this exchange:

What resonated with me were his comments about this incident being the "fruits of freedom" - and his contrast that alluded to a much different outcome had it been Saddam (sp?) who had the shoes thrown at him.

powerclown 12-17-2008 05:58 PM

Byrnison: Thank you for posting that.

YaWhateva 12-17-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak (Post 2574207)
Eh, at the end of the day Im sure that President Bush had a good laugh, downed two fingers of expensive double malt, banged his MILFish wife and dreamt about whatever it is that powerful men dream about. al-Zaidi probably laid on a dungeon floor naked and hog-tied, bloody, broken and bruised and prayed for deaths sweet release.

Hope it was worth it, fuckface.

Just so you know, Bush is a recovering alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in 22 years or so. Tens of thousands of al-Zaidi's countrymen are protesting on his behalf and many more applauding him for what he did and I am sure many, many more across the world are doing the same. People feel so much contempt for our country and it's really boiling over.

Also thanks, Byrnison for that. I really like the way the Iraqi Ambassador addressed the situation.

dc_dux 12-17-2008 08:26 PM

I agree about the "fruits of freedom"

I would only add that the fruit is sweetest when it is achieved through self-sacrifice and a commitment to the cause by the population of a nation rather than through invasion and occupation, which has unintended (but not unanticipated) consequences.

In this case, the consequences for the US were expressed in the act by the reporter and the thousands (or millions) of Muslims who support it.

And if we just brush it off in the name of the fruits of freedom, we are turning a blind eye to a signficiant problem....the worst image of the US in the Middle East in decades as a result of our actions in Iraq, our actions at Gitmo, etc.

LoganSnake 12-18-2008 06:38 AM

Well that didn't take long:

YTMND - Wild Bush Captured!


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