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fitzneal · 03-01-2007, 04:11 PM

Windows (Aero) vs Ubuntu Linux (Beryl)

HERE!

Video quality isn't so hot,but the sound certainly is

.......and the point of the vid is too.

Etarip · 03-01-2007, 04:25 PM

Heh, eye candy rocks

SecretMethod70 · 03-01-2007, 04:55 PM

Yeah, both the Beryl and Compiz project are creating some really interesting things. The problem I see with all these videos that pop up (especially for Beryl) is that they focus so much on what is ultimately useless eyecandy and not on showing a balance between eyecandy and functional benefits.

Take flaming windows, for example. It looks neat, and then you think about it for a few seconds and realize, "I'd never want to work with that on a daily basis." I'd love to see someone make a video showing only the useful things Beryl or Compiz can do, without the "oooh, shiny flashy things!" factor that ultimately does more to convince people that it's a waste more than it being something useful.

Which is ultimately the point: these projects ARE useful. But it doesn't seem anyone is making an effort to really show that.

MikeSty · 03-03-2007, 07:05 PM

I concur. What's the point of trying to out-eye-candy Windoze? Why not show that they can create an effective + fancy + low-resource interface? Can they not?

SecretMethod70 · 03-03-2007, 09:03 PM

Well, I think I could have been more clear with my previous post: they have created an effective + fancy + low-resource interface. In fact, the eye candy displayed in many beryl videos works quite well on systems that would have a hard time running Vista even without all the eye candy.

Problem is, the videos don't focus on any of the things most users would actually give a damn about: the simple, unobtrusive things. Those things are shown here and there, but the videos place too much focus on pointless features, like the flaming windows.

tinfoil · 03-04-2007, 08:41 AM

One thing that impressed me with Compiz is that the hardware requirements weren't at all exotic. I was running it on an Inspiron 8200, 1.7Ghz P4m w/ Nvidia 4 go 440 (64MB) video. OSX requirements are even less exotic, running all the fancy visual bits on my aging Powerbook DVI (667 Mhz G4, Radeon 7500 w/ 32MB). I've not tried Beryl, but it looks posh. I wonder if its requirements are equally as light as Compiz.

Etarip · 03-04-2007, 02:40 PM

Beryl is supposed to be a branch of Compiz so it should work... i think.

03-01-2007, 04:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
fitzneal Upright Location: Falmouth	Seen this? Windows (Aero) vs Ubuntu Linux (Beryl) HERE! Video quality isn't so hot,but the sound certainly is .......and the point of the vid is too. __________________ "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams

03-01-2007, 04:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Yeah, both the Beryl and Compiz project are creating some really interesting things. The problem I see with all these videos that pop up (especially for Beryl) is that they focus so much on what is ultimately useless eyecandy and not on showing a balance between eyecandy and functional benefits. Take flaming windows, for example. It looks neat, and then you think about it for a few seconds and realize, "I'd never want to work with that on a daily basis." I'd love to see someone make a video showing only the useful things Beryl or Compiz can do, without the "oooh, shiny flashy things!" factor that ultimately does more to convince people that it's a waste more than it being something useful. Which is ultimately the point: these projects ARE useful. But it doesn't seem anyone is making an effort to really show that. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

03-03-2007, 09:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Well, I think I could have been more clear with my previous post: they have created an effective + fancy + low-resource interface. In fact, the eye candy displayed in many beryl videos works quite well on systems that would have a hard time running Vista even without all the eye candy. Problem is, the videos don't focus on any of the things most users would actually give a damn about: the simple, unobtrusive things. Those things are shown here and there, but the videos place too much focus on pointless features, like the flaming windows. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

03-04-2007, 08:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
tinfoil Fucking Hostile Location: Springford, ON, Canada	One thing that impressed me with Compiz is that the hardware requirements weren't at all exotic. I was running it on an Inspiron 8200, 1.7Ghz P4m w/ Nvidia 4 go 440 (64MB) video. OSX requirements are even less exotic, running all the fancy visual bits on my aging Powerbook DVI (667 Mhz G4, Radeon 7500 w/ 32MB). I've not tried Beryl, but it looks posh. I wonder if its requirements are equally as light as Compiz. __________________ Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

03-01-2007, 04:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Etarip Tilted	Heh, eye candy rocks

03-03-2007, 07:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
MikeSty The Computer Kid :D Location: 127.0.0.1	I concur. What's the point of trying to out-eye-candy Windoze? Why not show that they can create an effective + fancy + low-resource interface? Can they not?

03-04-2007, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Etarip Tilted	Beryl is supposed to be a branch of Compiz so it should work... i think.