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CrispyTheClown · 06-24-2005, 04:40 PM

INDIANAPOLIS, United States (AFP) - Greg Oden was on a path to follow LeBron James, a high school prodigy leaping directly to the National Basketball Association, but he now must wait until 2007 to seek professional riches.

The NBA deal with the league players union announced earlier this week at the NBA Finals raises the minimum age for NBA players to age 19, scuttling the plans of scouts who were eying 7-foot teen Oden as an NBA first pick in 2006.

In the wake of Oden now being unable to make the jump to the NBA until 2007, the Indianapolis Star reported Friday that the hometown prep star plans to play college basketball at Ohio State University, citing a person close to Oden.

Oden had expressed a desire to play in college without making a direct jump to the NBA but the choice was effectively made for him by the NBA-union deal.

Both Oden and his Lawrence North High School teammate Mike Conley are expected to make verbal commitments to play for the Buckeyes soon, although they cannot sign binding letters of intent until November 9.

Oden followed James this year as the only juniors to be named US high school basketball Player of the Year, averaging 20 points, 9.6 rebounds and 3.7 blocked shots in leading his school to a second consecutive state title.
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Along with Cook, this will give OSU 3 of the Top 10 freshman in the class of '06. And I hate the Schmuckeyes so not good news for me.

Alot of coach's are saying this limit is really a joke that doesn't really change things. What can they learn in one year? Well, Anthony and the Orangemen didn't do to bad and Williams was a good 6th man for the champion Heels last season. Something is better than nothing.

Hardknock · 06-24-2005, 04:44 PM

They'll learn a lot when they end up with a bum knee and can't play anymore.

They'll learn right quick.

CrispyTheClown · 06-24-2005, 04:58 PM

That's a good arguement but right off the top of my head I can't remember any projected first rounder injured his freshman season and dropping in the draft. I could be wrong but like I said......right of the top of my head I have nothing. Isn't to say it can't happen sometime down the road but odds are unlikely.

Spartak · 06-24-2005, 06:53 PM

That's fine cept I believe the Supreme Court ruled on this back in the 70s, and unless they reverse their previous ruling the Union is shit outta luck.

And Euros will still be allowed to enter at 18, whassup with that?

The union should have grown some balls and held out longer if they really were serious about this.

powerclown · 06-24-2005, 07:47 PM

I think the NBA is afraid of promising young guys making the jump, immediately securing multi-million dollar contracts, then turning out to be busts. Take the money and run. In tennis for example, one can turn pro at age 16, but they aren't guaranteed huge contracts and have to earn their money soley though their performances from week to week. I can see the NBA's logic.

Cross-Over · 06-24-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartak

That's fine cept I believe the Supreme Court ruled on this back in the 70s, and unless they reverse their previous ruling the Union is shit outta luck.

And Euros will still be allowed to enter at 18, whassup with that?

The union should have grown some balls and held out longer if they really were serious about this.

Correct, the courts ruled in favors of players wanting to skip college and enter the NBA decades ago. I personally do not agree with it. The NFL successfully fought the challenge against their age/years out of high school limit. If it is taken to court, I hope the NBA wins too. Whatever proponents like to say, I believe the bottom line and most important factor is that the NBA, NFL, and all other professional leagues are private leagues. I believe the government should have no say in the matter. If a player is injured and his stock drops, it is unfortunate. If he is good enough, he will still be drafted. If not, hopefully he can recover and regain his ability. If he suffers a career ending injury, I sympathize, but have seen far worse tragedy.

radioguy · 06-25-2005, 03:36 AM

why can't the NBA just make the rules that they want. If they players don't like them, can't they go to europe or not play basketball? there's no rule that says we have to play a sport to earn a living. the players could find another career if they don't like the rules. i've got no problem with an age limit, although i don't understand why Europeans can come over at 18. it's want the NBA wants, so in my eyes, it's okay.

Derwood · 06-25-2005, 07:15 AM

I was hoping for 20 instead of 19, but so it goes. Any player that had to repeat a grade in high school can make the jump regardless.

This can only strengthen the college game again.

dylanmarsh · 06-25-2005, 08:16 AM

Bottom line with this matter is that the NBA is a business and they can choose to run their business however which way they want. There is no difference between the NBA requiring players to be at least 19 and a local bar not hiring anyone who isn't at least 21.

It's a business decision, albeit a perplexing one.

boom29 · 06-29-2005, 11:57 AM

I think moving the age limit up to 19 is a step in the right direction. I would have preferred something along the lines of the NFL of being 2/3 years removed from High School. That way, a player could conceivably still be 19 and elegible for the draft. Yet, the thing that I think would have made more of an impact would have been to do away with guaranteed contracts to players entering the league. I think this would have deterred most HS players from entering the draft straight out of HS.

nein991 · 06-30-2005, 10:35 AM

Most 18 year old kids are not physically or mentally mature enough to play in the NBA. Two years in college would be idea. If a kid doesn't want to go to college, he can play
in the NBA Development Leauge; to help him make the transition to the NBA. This is a
pet project of the NBA commissoner.

06-24-2005, 04:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
CrispyTheClown Upright Location: Buckeye Lake, Ohio	New NBA Age Limit Is 19 INDIANAPOLIS, United States (AFP) - Greg Oden was on a path to follow LeBron James, a high school prodigy leaping directly to the National Basketball Association, but he now must wait until 2007 to seek professional riches. The NBA deal with the league players union announced earlier this week at the NBA Finals raises the minimum age for NBA players to age 19, scuttling the plans of scouts who were eying 7-foot teen Oden as an NBA first pick in 2006. In the wake of Oden now being unable to make the jump to the NBA until 2007, the Indianapolis Star reported Friday that the hometown prep star plans to play college basketball at Ohio State University, citing a person close to Oden. Oden had expressed a desire to play in college without making a direct jump to the NBA but the choice was effectively made for him by the NBA-union deal. Both Oden and his Lawrence North High School teammate Mike Conley are expected to make verbal commitments to play for the Buckeyes soon, although they cannot sign binding letters of intent until November 9. Oden followed James this year as the only juniors to be named US high school basketball Player of the Year, averaging 20 points, 9.6 rebounds and 3.7 blocked shots in leading his school to a second consecutive state title. --------------- Along with Cook, this will give OSU 3 of the Top 10 freshman in the class of '06. And I hate the Schmuckeyes so not good news for me. Alot of coach's are saying this limit is really a joke that doesn't really change things. What can they learn in one year? Well, Anthony and the Orangemen didn't do to bad and Williams was a good 6th man for the champion Heels last season. Something is better than nothing. __________________ Weather forecast for tonight: dark.

06-24-2005, 04:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
CrispyTheClown Upright Location: Buckeye Lake, Ohio	That's a good arguement but right off the top of my head I can't remember any projected first rounder injured his freshman season and dropping in the draft. I could be wrong but like I said......right of the top of my head I have nothing. Isn't to say it can't happen sometime down the road but odds are unlikely. __________________ Weather forecast for tonight: dark.

06-24-2005, 06:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	That's fine cept I believe the Supreme Court ruled on this back in the 70s, and unless they reverse their previous ruling the Union is shit outta luck. And Euros will still be allowed to enter at 18, whassup with that? The union should have grown some balls and held out longer if they really were serious about this. __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

06-25-2005, 07:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	I was hoping for 20 instead of 19, but so it goes. Any player that had to repeat a grade in high school can make the jump regardless. This can only strengthen the college game again. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

06-24-2005, 04:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hardknock Republican slayer Location: WA	They'll learn a lot when they end up with a bum knee and can't play anymore. They'll learn right quick.

06-24-2005, 07:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	I think the NBA is afraid of promising young guys making the jump, immediately securing multi-million dollar contracts, then turning out to be busts. Take the money and run. In tennis for example, one can turn pro at age 16, but they aren't guaranteed huge contracts and have to earn their money soley though their performances from week to week. I can see the NBA's logic.

06-25-2005, 03:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
radioguy Registered User Location: Texas	why can't the NBA just make the rules that they want. If they players don't like them, can't they go to europe or not play basketball? there's no rule that says we have to play a sport to earn a living. the players could find another career if they don't like the rules. i've got no problem with an age limit, although i don't understand why Europeans can come over at 18. it's want the NBA wants, so in my eyes, it's okay.

06-25-2005, 08:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
dylanmarsh Sleepy Head	Bottom line with this matter is that the NBA is a business and they can choose to run their business however which way they want. There is no difference between the NBA requiring players to be at least 19 and a local bar not hiring anyone who isn't at least 21. It's a business decision, albeit a perplexing one.

06-29-2005, 11:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
boom29 Insane	I think moving the age limit up to 19 is a step in the right direction. I would have preferred something along the lines of the NFL of being 2/3 years removed from High School. That way, a player could conceivably still be 19 and elegible for the draft. Yet, the thing that I think would have made more of an impact would have been to do away with guaranteed contracts to players entering the league. I think this would have deterred most HS players from entering the draft straight out of HS.

06-30-2005, 10:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
nein991 Junkie	Most 18 year old kids are not physically or mentally mature enough to play in the NBA. Two years in college would be idea. If a kid doesn't want to go to college, he can play in the NBA Development Leauge; to help him make the transition to the NBA. This is a pet project of the NBA commissoner.