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Menoman 11-11-2007 10:33 PM

and guys who act like.....

pussies!

Plan9 11-11-2007 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Reilly, FOX News Network
"And the big blubbering thing above my neck!"


Cyborg Ninja 11-12-2007 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twistedmosaic
OK, what I don't understand (and what you have still yet to define) is what body part do YOU use 'pussy' to refer to? It's not exactly a medical term. I get the impression you use 'pussy' to refer to the vulva...why do you assume that other people are using it to refer to the same?

If someone says "I want to put my dick in your pussy", then clearly they are using pussy in that context to refer to the vagina.

If someone says, "I can see your pussy!" then unless there is some serious spreading going on, they're using it to mean vulva.

How are either of these 'wrong'? Your vague reference to abstinence only education doesn't clarify your point.

Your assumption is wrong. "Pussy" refers to the entire female genitalia, or at least the exterior. Most people here already know this. I'm surprised that you don't. I'm being a bit rude here, but seriously, your question just dumbfounds me. Are you confused about other basic sex slang, too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menoman
and guys who act like.....

pussies!

So do lesbians. :thumbsup:

Menoman 11-12-2007 03:53 AM

Really I don't understand the big deal here, if pussy refers to the entire thing, like we have agreed here.

You can say, she has a nice pussy.. and it works.

Or you can say I'd fuck her pussy... and it works.

or you can say I'd stick a ballpeen hammer in that pussy.. and it works..

How can you misuse the term??

I am really confused why you are so up in arms about this.

Plan9 11-12-2007 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyborg Ninja
Your assumption is wrong. "Pussy" refers to the entire female genitalia, or at least the exterior. Most people here already know this. I'm surprised that you don't. I'm being a bit rude here, but seriously, your question just dumbfounds me. Are you confused about other basic sex slang, too?

Excuse me, lady... but we're the ones dedicating our lives to hunting it, playing with it, eating it, and trying to get our wang in it.

*slams his penis on a desk repeatedly*

We suffer to get it... and thus we'll define it however we want!

I capture the castle!

Jinn 11-12-2007 07:58 AM

Cyborg:

You've still not clearly pointed out WHAT your issue with the word is, only belabored the fact that people are using it incorrectly - in your opinion.

You've made a number of assumptions:

1) That we care what you think about the word 'pussy'.
2) That we care what the 'definition' of a slang word like 'pussy' actually is.
3) That we care to change our manner of speech to meet your preferences
4) That we know what you're talking about

Since you've made it very difficult to understand your position, (4) is almost guaranteed to be false. If you want us to jump on our bandwagon crusade against the incorrect usage of "pussy", you've at least give us something to defend. As of right now, my understanding is that you think "pussy" encompasses too much of the anatomy or too little, and I'm not really sure which.

Really I think this was just a rant because you heard someone call someone else a pussy, you had the jeer directed at you, or it just struck you mentally that you objected to the way people use the word pussy.

A rant is fine, really, it is. But it's more suited for a Journal entry than a discussion post. As it is, you've not created much of a discussion. I'm not sure why this thread hasn't been closed already.

MSD 11-12-2007 08:42 AM

I've always thought of slang as more of an amorphous blob of a definition than a rigid concrete block.

There are words and phrases that annoy me either by their common definitions, usage, or "misuse," but I understand that people use them as they do and don't let it bother me.

DaveOrion 11-12-2007 08:44 AM

Or......maybe she saw the thread "Do You Find Vaginas Attractive", which technically should have been "Do You Find Vaginae Attractive", and was offended by the use of this word. Since the thread in the ladies lounge was entitled "Do You Find Penises Attractive", I thought I'd follow suit & used vaginas. Although using vulva did cross my mind, it is commonly accepted that vagina is the best generic/medical term to use for "pussy". They didnt use cock, prick, or dick so I reframed from using pussy, slit, or cunt in the title.

I am now officially done......:rolleyes:

telekinetic 11-12-2007 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyborg Ninja
Your assumption is wrong. "Pussy" refers to the entire female genitalia, or at least the exterior. Most people here already know this. I'm surprised that you don't. I'm being a bit rude here, but seriously, your question just dumbfounds me. Are you confused about other basic sex slang, too?



So do lesbians. :thumbsup:

Do not be condescending to me when the only reason we're not on the same page is your poor ability to communicate your point. You are in fact the dumbfounder, not me.

analog 11-12-2007 09:03 AM

I don't think there's any such thing as the "correct" or "proper" definition for a slang term. Slang, by definition, means whatever "the people" use it to mean. Pussy, other than to refer to a cat, is not a real term for vagina, or vulva, or anything- it's a vulgarity.

Leto 11-12-2007 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Same as pussy, but even more derogatory.


I could never figure out why it is considered derogatory. Anybody?

Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief
Where does "snatch" fit into the equation?

BTW, Frosstbyte, kudos for using the word "conflate" in casual conversation!


was it George Carlin who stated: "we're gonna snatch that pussy and put 'er in the box" ? Ya, I think it was...

Aladdin Sane 11-12-2007 10:09 AM

This thread proves (at least) two unsavory things about the participants: 1. We've got way, way too much time on our hands, and 2. Any-- I repeat, ANY--talk about pussy and we are there.

Meanwhile, I'm still clueless as to why people who actually have pussies think those of us who don't are swine.

ring 11-12-2007 10:28 AM

I don't think that.
I do notice the reaction of my male friends when this term is flung their way.
I have seen them drop and do 50 push-ups to dispel the 'ultimate insult.'

I am not equating 'pussy' to weakness, but some must.

I am looking at the original question and the only words that jumped out at me were, God!.. Wrong.. dumb kids..and stupefied.

I am stupefied at the moment.

hrandani 11-12-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyborg Ninja
That's funny, considering most of the people in this thread know and stated what "vagina" in fact means. Do I need to explain to you every anatomical part? Do I need to explain what a "bone" is if some people refer it to their dick? This is what happens when you have abstinence-only education, people.

You dropped your merkin.

loquitur 11-12-2007 10:42 AM

Well, we can distinguish technical accuracy from vernacular. Technically, external female genitalia are "vulva" and the passage from the cervix to the exterior is the vagina. But in common parlance, people say "vagina" when what they are referring to is the overall genitalia. "Pussy" is just slang for vulva.

More to the point, though, who the hell cares? So long as how you use the term is intelligible in conversation, what the heck difference does it make?

Ustwo 11-12-2007 11:00 AM

On a only slightly related note, I think its my calling in life to make 'cunt' a household word.

Here is a fun trick for you gents with rational girl friends/wives (and by that I mean they are willing to use logic over emotion).

At some point in a debate say 'Quit being such a cunt about this' or the like. Make sure its not in a real argument though, you want emotions to be even before dropping the c bomb.

See the waves of shock and awe on her face.

Now for the fun. After she mentally recovers and says something like 'What did you call me!' or the like say 'a cunt? Whats the big deal?'

Now is when you can have a discussion on the power of a word, and ask her just why its such a trigger word for women. I've never understood why its such a 'bad' word other then people are taught to think of it as the ultimate insult to a women.

This is advanced communication 302, so I wouldn't recommend this unless you already know the outcome based on knowing her personality :)

mixedmedia 11-12-2007 11:12 AM

Well, the word cunt aside :p, I never knew the word pussy was seen as a derogatory word unless used to describe a man.

Perhaps I should take exception to that but, generally, I'm spurred to debate more by ideas than words. Generally. There are exceptions.

But I always thought pussy was fairly acceptable slang just like dick or cock.

And they are certainly sexier. :suave:

ring 11-12-2007 11:16 AM

N word vs. C word.

I don't care to offend anyone on purpose.

Sticks and stone will hurt my bones but words will never hurt me?

These things must be done delicately, I can think of more enlightening
ways to teach someone the power of a word, and they might still talk to afterwards.

forgot the 'me' part, oops.

Cyborg Ninja 11-12-2007 11:27 AM

I'm still surprised by some people's confusion over what the term "vagina" actually means. It is a scientific term referring to what other people may call the "birth canal." I learned this in 2nd grade. What kind of education did you get?

As for using "vagina" as slang—it makes far more sense to use "pussy" instead. It's simply miscontruing the word and has led to the unfortunate and embarrassing misunderstandings of some younger people in the US. This thread has shown me that there really are several people that don't realize what the term "vagina" actually means because they hear it when really the speaker is referring to the entire female genitalia (pussy). I'm not sure I'd call it just slang... it really seems to be misunderstood. How would you feel if people started using the word "penis" to refer to the entire "package?" And I really hope people don't get that wrong, either...

LoganSnake 11-12-2007 11:35 AM

That's a pretty silly thing to get worked up over.

Frosstbyte 11-12-2007 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyborg Ninja
I'm still surprised by some people's confusion over what the term "vagina" actually means. It is a scientific term referring to what other people may call the "birth canal." I learned this in 2nd grade. What kind of education did you get?

As for using "vagina" as slang—it makes far more sense to use "pussy" instead. It's simply miscontruing the word and has led to the unfortunate and embarrassing misunderstandings of some younger people in the US. This thread has shown me that there really are several people that don't realize what the term "vagina" actually means because they hear it when really the speaker is referring to the entire female genitalia (pussy). I'm not sure I'd call it just slang... it really seems to be misunderstood. How would you feel if people started using the word "penis" to refer to the entire "package?" And I really hope people don't get that wrong, either...

You keep posting this response. You've posted it at least twice (three if you count the OP) and not a single time have you made even an attempt at explaining why you think that it's so critical that people know exactly what pussy means in casual conversation compared to vagina. I know it's important for a doctor to understand the difference. I know it's important for me to know the difference when I'm having sex with my fiancee. I know it's important for you to know the difference when you're using a tampon instead of a pad. I don't know why it's important to correct someone using either phrase in casual conversation.

Furthermore, no one in this thread has evidenced ANY lack of understanding about the difference between the two. They're either made jokes (the whole cunt/snatch thing) or have simply questioned why drawing the distinction over slang and casual conversation is so important for you, which you've made no attempt to clarify.

Finally, since you're making an ultra-technical definition-based point, you should probably get your definitions correct. "Pussy" as it is literally defined does not refer to the "entire female genitalia" as you indicate, but rather only to the vulva. Not that it matters or makes any difference, but just so we're clear.

Strange Famous 11-12-2007 11:57 AM

I am still not understanding what is the meaningful difference?

World's King 11-12-2007 12:44 PM

Is there a difference between a Dick and a Penis?

ring 11-12-2007 12:49 PM

Maybe it is a compartmentalized cultural thing that is important to you in a way I do not understand.

Disambiguation perhaps?

I need a tylenol.

Plan9 11-12-2007 01:19 PM

"I don't refer to it as the alternative love canal, I refer to it as the ass!"
- Sgt. R. Dubois
Gardez, Afghanistan
2006

telekinetic 11-12-2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyborg Ninja
I'm still surprised by some people's confusion over what the term "vagina" actually means. It is a scientific term referring to what other people may call the "birth canal." I learned this in 2nd grade. What kind of education did you get?

As for using "vagina" as slang—it makes far more sense to use "pussy" instead. It's simply miscontruing the word and has led to the unfortunate and embarrassing misunderstandings of some younger people in the US. This thread has shown me that there really are several people that don't realize what the term "vagina" actually means because they hear it when really the speaker is referring to the entire female genitalia (pussy). I'm not sure I'd call it just slang... it really seems to be misunderstood. How would you feel if people started using the word "penis" to refer to the entire "package?" And I really hope people don't get that wrong, either...

Who the heck is confused about what 'vagina' means? I think every single person who has posted in this thread is aware of the anatomical definition...or, at least, noone has posted anything that I could read as contrary to that.

That is not in dispute.

What is in dispute is your assertation that you can only use the word 'pussy' one way. 'Pussy', is slang, and the offhand way you assert its definition indicates that you have no idea what the confusion is, and have only been reading this thread not to understand that noone has a fucking clue what you're talking about, but to point out how you're right and we're ignorant and wrong.

Baraka_Guru 11-12-2007 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by World's King
Is there a difference between a Dick and a Penis?

A penis is that object with which one fucks. A dick is that object to which the penis is attached.

Plan9 11-12-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
A penis is that object with which one fucks. A dick is that object to which the penis is attached.

And pussies can have a penis, too.

How do you think all these SUV-driving, Gap-shopping idiots reproduce?

...

I was hoping they did it with eggs or spores, but no... they got man parts, too.

Baraka_Guru 11-12-2007 03:55 PM

Wow, the Gap is still around?

Anyway, let's keep the focus on the matter at hand: Pussy!






Edit: Wait a tick! The Gap? Pussy? Hmm.... :orly: ...maybe we weren't that far off topic afterall....

waltert 11-12-2007 03:57 PM

cyborg ninja, while successful at creating a thread that generated responses...I still have no idea what your point is....

people misuse terms...and what?...how is that relevant to us?

slang terms have no concrete meaning...so are you worried about people misusing slang terms, or misusing medical terms, what?

and I'm sure there has been a time where a component you use regularly has failed, and in your attempt to describe the problem, you did not use the correct terminology. (automobile, bicycle, electronic device...ever heard someone refer to a computer as a CPU?)

Psycho Dad 11-12-2007 04:13 PM

Speaking of derogatory slang... My wife says that tits or titties is derogatory and the acceptable words to be breasts or boobs (boobies). What do some of the ladies think about this?

mixedmedia 11-12-2007 04:47 PM

I don't mind them.

The words, that is...:p

Plan9 11-12-2007 04:52 PM

BOOBIES!

TITTIES!

How utterly satisfying a plural noun can be!

Charlatan 11-12-2007 04:58 PM

It's all a matter of who is on the receiving end of the words.

The word, "fanny," in the UK is an offensive word used to describe a woman's genitals. It's probably worse than cunt to some (which means that American tourists talking about their "fanny packs" are even more offensive than their choice of belt suggests).

You would not use the word, pussy, to describe female genitalia to your grandmother or in mixed company (by mixed company I mean a place where you do not know the people to whom you are speaking). It is a slang word and as such is potentially offensive to those who may be more sensitive.

As for the anatomy lesson...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dictionary.com
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
va·gi·na /vəˈdʒaɪnə/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vuh-jahy-nuh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -nas, -nae /-ni/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[-nee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation.
1. Anatomy, Zoology.
a. the passage leading from the uterus to the vulva in certain female mammals. Compare oviduct.
b. a sheathlike part or organ.

The thing is... language does change in meaning over time. If vagina means the whole package now. Who am I to argue?

Menoman 11-12-2007 06:00 PM

this whole thing has turned lolrific

Ilow 11-13-2007 09:43 AM

So I call a pudendum a vagina, big whup. I suppose that you will call me wrong if I use a facial tissue and call it a Kleenex, use a photocopier and call it a Xerox or call some one on my wireless phone and call it a cell phone. It's a very slight extension of the word.

Halx 11-13-2007 09:47 AM

I'll accept your assertions given that I am wearing a LAB COAT.

But I'm not. I'm in casual clothes.

Therefore...

pussy = vagina = cunt = love pocket = reason for living

Is this entire thread really about semantics?

Plan9 11-13-2007 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilow
So I call a pudendum a vagina, big whup. I suppose that you will call me wrong if I use a facial tissue and call it a Kleenex, use a photocopier and call it a Xerox or call some one on my wireless phone and call it a cell phone. It's a very slight extension of the word.

Whoa, wait... they have brand names of pussy now?!

Nike Vag: Just do it.

Chevy Vag: Use your cock.

Pringles Vag: Once you pop.

Strange Famous 11-13-2007 10:51 AM

not at all

"fanny" is nowhere near as "rude" as "cunt" - at least no anywhere in the UK.

geetar316 11-13-2007 10:52 AM

haha this is crazy, I've never had a conversation where "pussy" was used and had to be explained...its pretty self-explanatory, and its definitely not scientific. I think we're over thinking this a little too much


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