Pussy != vagina
 

Please realize this. God, how many times have I seen younger guys equate the two. Pussy is not vagina, vulva is not vagina, etc. It's not even acceptable slang because it's still WRONG. And the funny thing is, once I tried to tell some dumb kids on a board this and they were stupefied.

Okay.

So, please explain the difference.

I think it's commonly accepted slang that pussy = the thing you fuck.

It's not like slang is necessarily supposed to explain scientific physiology of what it's directed at.

pussy = female reproductive organ
vagina = tubular tract

Pretty much. Pussy is a slang for vagina. Not the part of it, but the whole thing. And it's not just younger guys.

OK so what is a cunt

Same as pussy, but even more derogatory.

I cannot imagine the distinction you're trying to make. How, exactly, do you define the two to have such totally disparate meanings and why does it bother you so much that people conflate them?

As long as people are people, they will take the simple and make it complex.

Where does "snatch" fit into the equation?

BTW, Frosstbyte, kudos for using the word "conflate" in casual conversation!

It's only derogatory if it's used in a derogatory (ie, hateful) way.

I like both words. :)

snatch is good, too

Whatever word you use, we picture the same thing

Rosie O'Donnell

Then what is Hillary Clinton?

I heterosexual Cunt.

these are good examples of the words being used in a bad way. :p

This thread is going absolutely nowhere unless Cyborg comes back and explains himself.

Once Bush is removed, we'll be seeing a lot of that Cunt.

CN is a woman....do really think a guy would start a thread like this??? :)

Then please explain to me why during the Vagina Monologues, all the above terms were used to describe "vaginae" in general......???

Because the Vagina Monologues is a jok... because in using slang with enthusiasm, monologuers attempt to reclaim derogatory terms. At least that's how it was explained to me by someone who took part.

I thought pussy was slang for cat. And CN is a girl, FYI.

Clever.

Pussy, cunt, vag, va-jj, coochie-- it's all the same beautiful girl part to me. Call it what you will, it's still what makes the world go 'round.

My understanding is that a vagina is the passage area, whereas a pussy is the whole kitten caboodle (i.e. vulva/vagina).

Ma Man you are technically correct, but it matters not in the world of slang. Look at it this way: Remember when bad was the new good? Well, now vagina is officially the new pussy.

Whatever. All I know is that I've got to get me some. :devious:

While we're at it, the phrase is "kit and caboodle" not kitten caboodle.

It was a forced pun.

I love people who start threads stating a 'fact' that is contrary to what is commonly accepted, (usually "Just so you know..." or "FYI") without providing any explanation or references.

Agreed, while technically the vagina is the muscular canal extending from the uterus to the exterior of the body, AKA the birth canal. It is also a generic term for pussy.....uh, I mean twat.........or, muff, slit, quim, snatch, cooter, beaver, poontang, coochie, hair pie, bearded clam, honey pot, fur burger, fuzzy taco, cunt, snatch......to name a few.....:oogle:

That's funny, considering most of the people in this thread know and stated what "vagina" in fact means. Do I need to explain to you every anatomical part? Do I need to explain what a "bone" is if some people refer it to their dick? This is what happens when you have abstinence-only education, people.

I'm sure there was a point being made here, but I missed it.

This is a case of 'pick your fight' and you picked a silly one. Do you think there is something a little less whimsical to attempt to remove from the worlds vocabulary?

You forgot poontang, snizz, and cooter.

All I know is this thread is giving my a tingly sensation in my pants and makes me want to get me some.

I think what most of us aren't getting is the question of why this matters, not that from an exceedingly linguistic perspective you are, I suppose, correct. Pussy is slang and is really only used in contexts where it makes essentially no difference to what exact part of the female genitalia it refers whether that be interior or exterior. There's no meaningful difference between the words for purposes of usage, since no doctor is ever going to talk about a patient's "pussy" and that's really the only time that any distinction between the two words would ever have any impact.

Your point leaves most of us hanging because we're unable to see why making sure everyone knows exactly what these two words refer to in exacting terms makes a difference, and some random dig on abstinence-only education does little to illuminate your OP.

It doesn't matter what the opening post is like, many of you are just being unfriendly and borderline mean. Is that the sort of TFP you like to represent to people?

As for the opening post, I agree with Frosstbyte. ^

I've pointed that out about 10 times before, it gets you no where really :\

Except you are a 'name' around these parts, maybe you'll have a better time of making people realize. Good luck though.

OK, what I don't understand (and what you have still yet to define) is what body part do YOU use 'pussy' to refer to? It's not exactly a medical term. I get the impression you use 'pussy' to refer to the vulva...why do you assume that other people are using it to refer to the same?

If someone says "I want to put my dick in your pussy", then clearly they are using pussy in that context to refer to the vagina.

If someone says, "I can see your pussy!" then unless there is some serious spreading going on, they're using it to mean vulva.

How are either of these 'wrong'? Your vague reference to abstinence only education doesn't clarify your point.

Pussy is the female gender, too.

and guys who act like.....

pussies!

Your assumption is wrong. "Pussy" refers to the entire female genitalia, or at least the exterior. Most people here already know this. I'm surprised that you don't. I'm being a bit rude here, but seriously, your question just dumbfounds me. Are you confused about other basic sex slang, too?

So do lesbians. :thumbsup:

Really I don't understand the big deal here, if pussy refers to the entire thing, like we have agreed here.

You can say, she has a nice pussy.. and it works.

Or you can say I'd fuck her pussy... and it works.

or you can say I'd stick a ballpeen hammer in that pussy.. and it works..

How can you misuse the term??

I am really confused why you are so up in arms about this.

Excuse me, lady... but we're the ones dedicating our lives to hunting it, playing with it, eating it, and trying to get our wang in it.

*slams his penis on a desk repeatedly*

We suffer to get it... and thus we'll define it however we want!

I capture the castle!

Cyborg:

You've still not clearly pointed out WHAT your issue with the word is, only belabored the fact that people are using it incorrectly - in your opinion.

You've made a number of assumptions:

1) That we care what you think about the word 'pussy'.
2) That we care what the 'definition' of a slang word like 'pussy' actually is.
3) That we care to change our manner of speech to meet your preferences
4) That we know what you're talking about

Since you've made it very difficult to understand your position, (4) is almost guaranteed to be false. If you want us to jump on our bandwagon crusade against the incorrect usage of "pussy", you've at least give us something to defend. As of right now, my understanding is that you think "pussy" encompasses too much of the anatomy or too little, and I'm not really sure which.

Really I think this was just a rant because you heard someone call someone else a pussy, you had the jeer directed at you, or it just struck you mentally that you objected to the way people use the word pussy.

A rant is fine, really, it is. But it's more suited for a Journal entry than a discussion post. As it is, you've not created much of a discussion. I'm not sure why this thread hasn't been closed already.

I've always thought of slang as more of an amorphous blob of a definition than a rigid concrete block.

There are words and phrases that annoy me either by their common definitions, usage, or "misuse," but I understand that people use them as they do and don't let it bother me.

Or......maybe she saw the thread "Do You Find Vaginas Attractive", which technically should have been "Do You Find Vaginae Attractive", and was offended by the use of this word. Since the thread in the ladies lounge was entitled "Do You Find Penises Attractive", I thought I'd follow suit & used vaginas. Although using vulva did cross my mind, it is commonly accepted that vagina is the best generic/medical term to use for "pussy". They didnt use cock, prick, or dick so I reframed from using pussy, slit, or cunt in the title.

I am now officially done......:rolleyes:

Do not be condescending to me when the only reason we're not on the same page is your poor ability to communicate your point. You are in fact the dumbfounder, not me.

I don't think there's any such thing as the "correct" or "proper" definition for a slang term. Slang, by definition, means whatever "the people" use it to mean. Pussy, other than to refer to a cat, is not a real term for vagina, or vulva, or anything- it's a vulgarity.

I could never figure out why it is considered derogatory. Anybody?


was it George Carlin who stated: "we're gonna snatch that pussy and put 'er in the box" ? Ya, I think it was...

This thread proves (at least) two unsavory things about the participants: 1. We've got way, way too much time on our hands, and 2. Any-- I repeat, ANY--talk about pussy and we are there.

Meanwhile, I'm still clueless as to why people who actually have pussies think those of us who don't are swine.

I don't think that.
I do notice the reaction of my male friends when this term is flung their way.
I have seen them drop and do 50 push-ups to dispel the 'ultimate insult.'

I am not equating 'pussy' to weakness, but some must.

I am looking at the original question and the only words that jumped out at me were, God!.. Wrong.. dumb kids..and stupefied.

I am stupefied at the moment.

You dropped your merkin.

Well, we can distinguish technical accuracy from vernacular. Technically, external female genitalia are "vulva" and the passage from the cervix to the exterior is the vagina. But in common parlance, people say "vagina" when what they are referring to is the overall genitalia. "Pussy" is just slang for vulva.

More to the point, though, who the hell cares? So long as how you use the term is intelligible in conversation, what the heck difference does it make?

On a only slightly related note, I think its my calling in life to make 'cunt' a household word.

Here is a fun trick for you gents with rational girl friends/wives (and by that I mean they are willing to use logic over emotion).

At some point in a debate say 'Quit being such a cunt about this' or the like. Make sure its not in a real argument though, you want emotions to be even before dropping the c bomb.

See the waves of shock and awe on her face.

Now for the fun. After she mentally recovers and says something like 'What did you call me!' or the like say 'a cunt? Whats the big deal?'

Now is when you can have a discussion on the power of a word, and ask her just why its such a trigger word for women. I've never understood why its such a 'bad' word other then people are taught to think of it as the ultimate insult to a women.

This is advanced communication 302, so I wouldn't recommend this unless you already know the outcome based on knowing her personality :)

Well, the word cunt aside :p, I never knew the word pussy was seen as a derogatory word unless used to describe a man.

Perhaps I should take exception to that but, generally, I'm spurred to debate more by ideas than words. Generally. There are exceptions.

But I always thought pussy was fairly acceptable slang just like dick or cock.

And they are certainly sexier. :suave:

N word vs. C word.

I don't care to offend anyone on purpose.

Sticks and stone will hurt my bones but words will never hurt me?

These things must be done delicately, I can think of more enlightening
ways to teach someone the power of a word, and they might still talk to afterwards.

forgot the 'me' part, oops.

I'm still surprised by some people's confusion over what the term "vagina" actually means. It is a scientific term referring to what other people may call the "birth canal." I learned this in 2nd grade. What kind of education did you get?

As for using "vagina" as slang—it makes far more sense to use "pussy" instead. It's simply miscontruing the word and has led to the unfortunate and embarrassing misunderstandings of some younger people in the US. This thread has shown me that there really are several people that don't realize what the term "vagina" actually means because they hear it when really the speaker is referring to the entire female genitalia (pussy). I'm not sure I'd call it just slang... it really seems to be misunderstood. How would you feel if people started using the word "penis" to refer to the entire "package?" And I really hope people don't get that wrong, either...

That's a pretty silly thing to get worked up over.

You keep posting this response. You've posted it at least twice (three if you count the OP) and not a single time have you made even an attempt at explaining why you think that it's so critical that people know exactly what pussy means in casual conversation compared to vagina. I know it's important for a doctor to understand the difference. I know it's important for me to know the difference when I'm having sex with my fiancee. I know it's important for you to know the difference when you're using a tampon instead of a pad. I don't know why it's important to correct someone using either phrase in casual conversation.

Furthermore, no one in this thread has evidenced ANY lack of understanding about the difference between the two. They're either made jokes (the whole cunt/snatch thing) or have simply questioned why drawing the distinction over slang and casual conversation is so important for you, which you've made no attempt to clarify.

Finally, since you're making an ultra-technical definition-based point, you should probably get your definitions correct. "Pussy" as it is literally defined does not refer to the "entire female genitalia" as you indicate, but rather only to the vulva. Not that it matters or makes any difference, but just so we're clear.

I am still not understanding what is the meaningful difference?

Is there a difference between a Dick and a Penis?

Maybe it is a compartmentalized cultural thing that is important to you in a way I do not understand.

Disambiguation perhaps?

I need a tylenol.

"I don't refer to it as the alternative love canal, I refer to it as the ass!"
- Sgt. R. Dubois
Gardez, Afghanistan
2006

Who the heck is confused about what 'vagina' means? I think every single person who has posted in this thread is aware of the anatomical definition...or, at least, noone has posted anything that I could read as contrary to that.

That is not in dispute.

What is in dispute is your assertation that you can only use the word 'pussy' one way. 'Pussy', is slang, and the offhand way you assert its definition indicates that you have no idea what the confusion is, and have only been reading this thread not to understand that noone has a fucking clue what you're talking about, but to point out how you're right and we're ignorant and wrong.

A penis is that object with which one fucks. A dick is that object to which the penis is attached.

And pussies can have a penis, too.

How do you think all these SUV-driving, Gap-shopping idiots reproduce?

...

I was hoping they did it with eggs or spores, but no... they got man parts, too.

Wow, the Gap is still around?

Anyway, let's keep the focus on the matter at hand: Pussy!






Edit: Wait a tick! The Gap? Pussy? Hmm.... :orly: ...maybe we weren't that far off topic afterall....

cyborg ninja, while successful at creating a thread that generated responses...I still have no idea what your point is....

people misuse terms...and what?...how is that relevant to us?

slang terms have no concrete meaning...so are you worried about people misusing slang terms, or misusing medical terms, what?

and I'm sure there has been a time where a component you use regularly has failed, and in your attempt to describe the problem, you did not use the correct terminology. (automobile, bicycle, electronic device...ever heard someone refer to a computer as a CPU?)

Speaking of derogatory slang... My wife says that tits or titties is derogatory and the acceptable words to be breasts or boobs (boobies). What do some of the ladies think about this?

I don't mind them.

The words, that is...:p

BOOBIES!

TITTIES!

How utterly satisfying a plural noun can be!

It's all a matter of who is on the receiving end of the words.

The word, "fanny," in the UK is an offensive word used to describe a woman's genitals. It's probably worse than cunt to some (which means that American tourists talking about their "fanny packs" are even more offensive than their choice of belt suggests).

You would not use the word, pussy, to describe female genitalia to your grandmother or in mixed company (by mixed company I mean a place where you do not know the people to whom you are speaking). It is a slang word and as such is potentially offensive to those who may be more sensitive.

As for the anatomy lesson...

The thing is... language does change in meaning over time. If vagina means the whole package now. Who am I to argue?

this whole thing has turned lolrific

So I call a pudendum a vagina, big whup. I suppose that you will call me wrong if I use a facial tissue and call it a Kleenex, use a photocopier and call it a Xerox or call some one on my wireless phone and call it a cell phone. It's a very slight extension of the word.

I'll accept your assertions given that I am wearing a LAB COAT.

But I'm not. I'm in casual clothes.

Therefore...

pussy = vagina = cunt = love pocket = reason for living

Is this entire thread really about semantics?

Whoa, wait... they have brand names of pussy now?!

Nike Vag: Just do it.

Chevy Vag: Use your cock.

Pringles Vag: Once you pop.

not at all

"fanny" is nowhere near as "rude" as "cunt" - at least no anywhere in the UK.

haha this is crazy, I've never had a conversation where "pussy" was used and had to be explained...its pretty self-explanatory, and its definitely not scientific. I think we're over thinking this a little too much

Also, it's used interchangeably.

Like: “Honey, I love when you shave your pussy!”

And: “God, you have a tight pussy!”

How do you explain the three women who told me that it was..all three from the UK.

Apparently, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

My wife is from the UK.. she hates both of those words, although she does admit that cunt is probably the worst.

LMAO
How about Skittles pussy--Taste the rainbow
Volvo pussy--Dive safely
hmm, better stop before this becomes a threadjack

well, this thread is one for the ages.

the very nature of this thread demands that it be jacked. sort of like a mutiny when you know the captain has gone mad.

hey, geetar316, purrrfect.

Let us not forget Beaver although most of the are shaved these days os at least neatly trimmed and no longer represent a beaver

I suppose that it depends who you are with and your emotional stability.

My girl used to get angry when I referred to it as her "pussy". I think that she may have taken it that I was objectifying her as a person as an object - a sex object. In that context I understand that she was offended. I am not sure that I agree that her objection was rational but I understand that to her it was was problematic so I tried to compensate and be sensitive to her feelings.

Instead of saying things like "Lay back and let me eat your pussy" I might say something like "It's time for me to pet the kitty". To use the term vagina seem a little clinical. Cunt seems too extreme.

Having said that, this all seems to be situational. Sometimes she likes to talk dirty. It is like at certain levels of hornyness, certain things are OK and other things are taboo. At other times the taboo things are actually desired. As an example, at sometimes she wants to "have sex" or "make love". Other times she wants me to "fuck her".

I think that it comes down to love and trust and respect. And being sensitive.

amen and hallelujah.

Wow, how have I missed this thread since it was posted? CN, let me begin this by stating the following:

a) I detest stupidity. People misusing words generally drives me insane.
b) I believe most people are stupid.

So, with that out of the way, I still have to say, "Are you friggin serious???"

The word pussy is generally accepted as meaning the whole of the female exterior and immediate interior areas. Basically the fun bits. Vagina, while a medical term with a specific meaning, is also a word in the English language. English being a living language (as opposed to dead, not generally spoken by a native people any longer) it is subject to relatively constant change, both in use and actual wordcount. I don't believe that anyone here has so far proven your statement correct. It would appear that everyone AGREES that vagina = birth canal. However, it would also seem as if you are the absolutely only person here who believes it matters whether or not people use the word to mean the whole package.

Now for an example. My wife seems to like the word penis as opposed to other "slang" terms for my junk. I find it amusing and somewhat endearing and oddly not clinical. If TotalMILF says, "Mmmmm, I'm going to suck your penis" I can also fully expect to have my balls in the mix as well. Did she just use the word "penis" to include the whole "package"? Not specifically... it just turned out that way. On the same note, if a woman said to me, "I'm going to fondle your balls", I would generally expect my dick to get some action as well.

So, I'm curious which you are bent out of shape about. That the slang "pussy" which you agree is the whole package (or do you believe it is only the labia?) is used interchangeable with vagina, or that vagina (which we all agree is scientifically the birth canal) is used interchangably with vagina?

Oh, and "are several people that don't realize what the term "vagina" actually means because they hear it when really the speaker is referring to the entire female genitalia (pussy)"... wtf? Isn't the point of language to convey your ideas? What if the speaker SAID vagina and MEANT pussy. If I inferred vagina to be specific, even though the "speaker" had meant pussy, than *I* am wrong. The speaker misused the word, but I misconstrued the meaning. Maybe we're both wrong?

Maybe it really doesn't friggin' matter! If you want to combat ignorance, one petty stop at a time, start worrying more about things like people not knowing the difference between there, their and they're, or won't and wont, or than and then.

What about when people say "same difference"? So, it's two subtraction problems with the same outcome? Or what about "I could care less"? So, you care at least a little? When they obviously mean they couldn't care less. *shrug* I have petty opinions about speech, too. Frankly, I find mine to be much more annoying that the pussy/vagina debacle you have brought to us.

Cunt. Now I know a few lesbian girls and their friends who have taken back the word cunt and made it their own . Not derogatory. They love their cunts and treat them with fondness and respect.
I myself have offered to treat their cunts with similar respect and have only a few times been allowed to :)
I think it is not really the word it is how you use it totally.
As for pussy - it is a concept as well as a thing - it is the thing we seek/crave/fuck/love/- pussy can even refer to a person. And some sick twisted fucks also use it to refer to cats !
What are THEY thinking!?!?!?

Re 'I could care Less' .... could that mean "I could care less about what you are saying (but it is unlikely)= inferred " hence they dont care much about it ?
Just a thought :rolleyes:
Granted many of the gimbos who use that as a terminology of theirs, have such a rudimentary grasp of the language that it is unlikely .

Hurray for female reproductive (and even the not so reproductive - yay pro choice) organs . Cause they are a damn fine design and I love to make em mine - by proxy .
Fore-cheers ! (not a mis-spell),
OOX

My wife's cat is named pussy. She is embarrassed to take it to the vet.

Is her cat a girl cat or a boy cat?

Naming a boy cat Pussy would seem silly to me.

I have come to believe, through reading this thread... That the confusion is not actually what the word pussy refers too, I believe the confusion is simply that Cyborg Ninja doesn't understand that it is a slang and not a medical term? Honestly... Who teaches the word pussy in any form of sex ed classes? I mean, I have read through here, and there is some off-topic discussion about it being a vulgar word, but that wasn't what the thread was about.

What my interpretation of Cyborg Ninjas point is that Vagina and Vulva (not slang), are not to be referred to by the slang word pussy.


Slang Defined: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pussy

Maybe if I called va-jay-jay "Outer Heaven" she'd get it.

/MGS joke

Pussy is what you get after a really good date. Vagina is what you take to the OB-GYN. I guess I'm a little amused by this whole debate because how many times do these words actually come up together in a single conversation?

And Xepherys... the then vs. than abuse is the modern classic linguistic misfire that drives me crazy. That and ending a sentence with the word "at". Where are you "at"? Uuugh... :)

What are you so mad at?
:cringe:

You know, my friends and I use "quim" a lot because no one else we know has ever heard it. This is also the first time I've seen the word online so kudos to you!:thumbsup: