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Mordoc · 11-18-2005, 08:06 PM

Hey guys.

I know there are a lot of sites to get tips about lifting, but I don't know how many of them I can trust to give good, accurate information. This community is so intelligent and generally reliable that it seems like a better source for it. What I'd like to do, if at all possible, is get people to post the different kinds of lifts they do, with notes on reps, sets, effectiveness, etc. Also, any overall things people have learned about lifting from doing it. There are a lot of threads asking about this kind of stuff, so if we could consolidate what the physical fitness devotees on this site know, I think it could be a very useful tool... or maybe I'm too lazy to keep searching the forum.

I'll post what I know later... It's kinda late and I need to get some sleep for Mock Trial tomorrow.

Thanks!

Rodney · 11-19-2005, 05:54 PM

1) Don't be a slave to your schedule. If it's your day to work chest and shoulders, and they're still sore from the lasting pasting you gave them, then it's _not_your day to work chest and shoulders. Go work something that doesn't hurt, or do some cardio, or go home. If you tear down your muscles again before they finish rebuilding themselves from the last time, you're wasting all that effort. You won't grow fast.

It takes more discipline to know when to slip the schedule than to stick with it blindly. If your targeted muscles are always still store from the last workout, you need to change your schedule or routine. Because they shouldn't be.

2) When your workouts are going great, and you've been blazing along with significant week-by-week increases for a 8-10 weeks and you just feel like nothing can stop you -- take a week off. You may be getting ahead of your body's ability to heal itself (whether you feel sore or not), and your bod may be getting ready to drop an unexpected injury on you. Shoulders are common, so are forearms. Even though it goes against everything your body is telling you -- take a week. You don't lose anything in a week. Except a possible injury.

This has happened to me twice, and several old muscleheads I talked to say it's not uncommon at all.

Toaster126 · 11-20-2005, 07:48 AM

I think it's really important to learn the difference between working out sore and working out hurt.

Your muscles will get sore from use. Oftentimes your body will let you know it isn't fun to lift heavy objects. That is completely different from being hurt. An injured part needs to be properly taken care of and\or not used until healed. It is very important to be able to tell the difference if you don't want to get injured, possibly permanently.

People (guys especially) have been taught to just grin and bear pain without complaining, and sometimes the "manly" thing to do is to be smart and not mess yourself up.

Siege · 11-20-2005, 02:27 PM

A good way to not get injured is not to be a dumbass. If you're a skinny mofo and it's your first trip to the gym, don't stack on the plates onto the bar as if you're filling up the plater holder at a buffet. I've seen it so many times that I just roll my eyes.

Another thing is, technique counts. It's not how much you lift, it's how you lift it.

Mordoc · 11-20-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siege

A good way to not get injured is not to be a dumbass. If you're a skinny mofo and it's your first trip to the gym, don't stack on the plates onto the bar as if you're filling up the plater holder at a buffet. I've seen it so many times that I just roll my eyes.

Another thing is, technique counts. It's not how much you lift, it's how you lift it.

Yeah, that's definitely true. I was also looking for people's advice as to technique for different lifts- the right and wrong ways, etc.

Gazza · 11-20-2005, 06:46 PM

Don't feel experienced enough to give direct advice, but the 3 sites I have got most from are

General weights techniques and advice

www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php

(This is directed at women, but most of the advice is good for men too.)

For describing exercises, and verifying the correct form

www.exrx.net/Exercise.html

(Lots of animated shots of various lifts)

For workout schedules, both of these above have them, currently my wife and I are doing bodyforlife:-

www.bodyforlife.com/exercise/weighttraining.asp

Seems to be working for us currently (Was getting stuck, and not feeling any progress with my previous routine.)

11-18-2005, 08:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mordoc Upright	Lifting... Compendium Hey guys. I know there are a lot of sites to get tips about lifting, but I don't know how many of them I can trust to give good, accurate information. This community is so intelligent and generally reliable that it seems like a better source for it. What I'd like to do, if at all possible, is get people to post the different kinds of lifts they do, with notes on reps, sets, effectiveness, etc. Also, any overall things people have learned about lifting from doing it. There are a lot of threads asking about this kind of stuff, so if we could consolidate what the physical fitness devotees on this site know, I think it could be a very useful tool... or maybe I'm too lazy to keep searching the forum. I'll post what I know later... It's kinda late and I need to get some sleep for Mock Trial tomorrow. Thanks!

11-20-2005, 07:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	I think it's really important to learn the difference between working out sore and working out hurt. Your muscles will get sore from use. Oftentimes your body will let you know it isn't fun to lift heavy objects. That is completely different from being hurt. An injured part needs to be properly taken care of and\or not used until healed. It is very important to be able to tell the difference if you don't want to get injured, possibly permanently. People (guys especially) have been taught to just grin and bear pain without complaining, and sometimes the "manly" thing to do is to be smart and not mess yourself up. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

11-20-2005, 02:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Siege is a tiger Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	A good way to not get injured is not to be a dumbass. If you're a skinny mofo and it's your first trip to the gym, don't stack on the plates onto the bar as if you're filling up the plater holder at a buffet. I've seen it so many times that I just roll my eyes. Another thing is, technique counts. It's not how much you lift, it's how you lift it. __________________ "Your name's Geek? Do you know the origin of the term? A geek is someone who bites the heads off chickens at a circus. I would never let you suck my dick with a name like Geek" --Kevin Smith This part just makes my posts easier to find

11-19-2005, 05:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	1) Don't be a slave to your schedule. If it's your day to work chest and shoulders, and they're still sore from the lasting pasting you gave them, then it's _not_your day to work chest and shoulders. Go work something that doesn't hurt, or do some cardio, or go home. If you tear down your muscles again before they finish rebuilding themselves from the last time, you're wasting all that effort. You won't grow fast. It takes more discipline to know when to slip the schedule than to stick with it blindly. If your targeted muscles are always still store from the last workout, you need to change your schedule or routine. Because they shouldn't be. 2) When your workouts are going great, and you've been blazing along with significant week-by-week increases for a 8-10 weeks and you just feel like nothing can stop you -- take a week off. You may be getting ahead of your body's ability to heal itself (whether you feel sore or not), and your bod may be getting ready to drop an unexpected injury on you. Shoulders are common, so are forearms. Even though it goes against everything your body is telling you -- take a week. You don't lose anything in a week. Except a possible injury. This has happened to me twice, and several old muscleheads I talked to say it's not uncommon at all.

11-20-2005, 06:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gazza Upright Location: ON	Don't feel experienced enough to give direct advice, but the 3 sites I have got most from are General weights techniques and advice www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php (This is directed at women, but most of the advice is good for men too.) For describing exercises, and verifying the correct form www.exrx.net/Exercise.html (Lots of animated shots of various lifts) For workout schedules, both of these above have them, currently my wife and I are doing bodyforlife:- www.bodyforlife.com/exercise/weighttraining.asp Seems to be working for us currently (Was getting stuck, and not feeling any progress with my previous routine.)