genuinegirly

I suppose I expect too much out of an emergency room physician.

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PonyPotato

Not necessarily, but perhaps the physician is expecting too much out of a PARENT who should know their child's medical history.

If extra tests need to be done for a condition such as brittle bone, it is NOT going to be done in an emergency room - those cases get referred to specialists for reasons. Emergency room physicians are TRAUMA physicians, and refer to specialists for further testing and diagnoses if the problem is not something easily solved.

In this case, the emergency room physician referred to a specialist in the form of child services to research the child's traumatic injury. I personally think it was a good call.

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Hektore

I don't see how that was your point at all - you called into question the competency of the doctor and then blamed all this on his/her supposed error.

How can you say the doctor did not investigate for some other related underlying medical condition? Were you there? Are you a doctor?

Without claiming some misconduct from the doctor, you cannot reasonably call this situation his/her failure.

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genuinegirly

You'd rather a doctor hastily report an injury to an agency that will take a child away before doing everything they can, exploring every possible avenue to improve the health of that child?
Sorry, Hector. We need to agree to disagree and move on.

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Hektore

I did not say anything even remotely close to that.

I said that your attempt at calling the doctor's judgment into question was unreasonable given your proximity to the situation. By extension, your claim that the doctor is at fault for what happened in the OP is also unreasonable.

I don't recall anyone in here at all, let alone myself, saying that doctors should run around crying 'child abuse' hasitly, or all willy-nilly like without any evidence at all.

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genuinegirly

Thank you for the clarification, Hektore.
You make a good point.

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Punk.of.Ages

I've actually decided that it will be best if I just leave this thread. Almost everything I have to say isn't nice anymore. Not for any logical reason. I know nobody's trying to piss me off, but after the whole mess I've found myself exhausted on this subject.

Furthermore, everything anybody says in here hits me on a very personal level at this point, and I'm not taking it with a logical mind, but an emotional one.

Sorry guys, but I'm out on this thread. I have my blog post about this and I'm just going to leave it at that.
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I will answer your question, genuinegirly. He does not have brittle bone syndrome or a calcium deficiency to anybody's knowledge.

As I said in my blog, the abuse specialist he was checked out by said that, because he's such a large two year old (hes the size of the average three to four year old), it's not very far fetched at all that he could break his leg from a short drop if he hit it right.

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FATD

Please read this, it is kinda long but worth it!
I am a 34 yr. old disabled single mother of three, I recently had my childeren removed from my home by DCFS.
First let me tell you about myself. I have always been someone who has always tried to see the good in every one. I recentley helped a girl and her son whom I thought of as my daughter, her ex broke in her home and tried to kill her and her grandparents, so I let her and her three month old son move in with me. I later found out that she was back into meth, so I kicked her out of my home and she went to her cousin stateing she would ruin my life if it was the last thing she did.
She contacted my ex husband who she knew he was threatening me to drop my childsupport case against him, they then made a plan to call DCFS on me and make a lot of rediculous alligations against me, my ex husband haveing my kids for summer break threatened them to tell DCFS the same bull, before he brought them home to me. After my kids being home a few day's, my ex husband called the kids and on a hunch I listened in on the phone conversation, I then heard with my own ears, my ex tell my nine year old son that if he didn't stick to what was said he would knock his f****n teeth down his throat, I immediatly got my son off the phone and asked him what that was all about. My son started crying and shaking saying he was scared his dad would hurt him if he told me, I promised him no one could hurt him if he told the truth, he then told me the story of how his dad made him and his two sisters tell DCFS that I was a drug addict and a drug dealer.
I have taken a hair pholical test and I do random U.A.'s and never failed not one of them, however they are saying I am the one makeing them say this about there dad, but yet all of my visit's are supervised. So I would like to know how I made them say this whey they were right there with me every visit. But my six year old daughter told her foster mom that mommy hit her in the head with a phone, and then hit bubba with a rhinestone belt until the rhinestones fell out, and daddy hit sissy in the mouth so hard she swallowed her tooth, and was fighting with bubba and hit him so hard he went to sleep for a long time. The foster mom then asked what mom are you talking about? She then replied my Colorado mom, the foster mom then asked not your Utah mom? She replied no my Utah mom don't hurt us. But when we brought this up to DCFS they replied "oh those are just alligations" I then told DCFS well what do you think the alligation against me are any different. DCFS then told me they had over twenty calls in less than two weeks, I said can't you see that's just somebody out to hurt me? Then a mutual friend of both my ex husband and I told me they had got all there family and friends together and called DCFS on me, and even paid some of them to call.
DCFS say's this is all in my head and I am making it all up, they also say I am nothing but a liar because my ex husband's mother is a cop in Colorado and has convinced them of this. They also know I am disabled so I do not have a lot of money for a lawyer, so I have to make do with a public pretender. DCFS case workers have also taken away my visits with my babie's because I stated my mind about all of this in our Family Team Meeting. I also lost a visit one time because when we were getting ready to leave the visit my six year old daughter hung on to my neck so tight I could hardley breath,she was crying uncontrolably and asked me to please take her home wiht me as this was the first time she had ever been away from me, she was begging me to please take her home with me, the caseworker told me as I was putting on my babie's shoes "That Is Enough, We are Done Let's go, This Visit Is Over". I told her I was trying as I started to weap a little bit, she told me "Well Your Not Trying Hard Enough", I then started crying harder as my baby was still begging me to take her with me, I promised my baby I would get her back home, and I put her in the van with her foster mom. After everyone left my caseworker told me "she wanted me to call her the next morning". I called her the next day, and she informed me" that I would not be getting a visit the next week, until I could learn to control myself in front of my kids". They also would not let my mother see them because she to was crying seeing to how upset my daughter was.
DCFS has now informed me they are letting the kids go live with there dad, even though the alligations against him and his wife have not even been investigated. I now have to drive five hours to Colorado to see my kids for a one hour supervised visit every week. Even though they have the wrong mother charged for this.

The_Jazz

So what's your point, FATD?

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Cynthetiq

A lot of times I observe that this isn't necessarily a problem with the DCFS but with someone abusing the rules and processes that DCFS has to follow. This latest one seems to be the same thing.

FATD, shame that's what has happened to you. It seems the father of your children is a lying POS.

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