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Old 04-23-2003, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Baseball hits bird, player could face charges

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I could give a shit less if this guy would have cut this birds wings off. It's a bird for christ's sake, not a baby. If he gets fined or gets jail time for something this dumb I'll go nuts. Get some drug dealers off the streets. Punish parents who beat theeir kids. Lock up drunk drivers. Put OJ in jail. Fuuuuuck! This is driving me nuts. Let's worry about dumb shit like this when we do a better job of taking care of bigger problems.

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Baseball: Wild(life) pitch under investigation
Minor-league Cubs player strikes out at osprey in nest

Posted: April 23, 2003
5:40 p.m. Eastern



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A minor-league pitcher in the Chicago Cubs organization has created a major flap after aiming for and knocking down an osprey from its perch with a baseball.

Jae-kuk Ryu of the Daytona Cubs could face animal cruelty charges for striking out at the bird Monday night at Florida's Jackie Robinson Ballpark.

"The bird's eye was gushing blood," Chad Efron, a trainer with the Port St. Lucie Mets told the Daytona Beach News-Journal. "I started yelling at [Ryu]. I got all fired up."

The bird, known locally as Ozzy, had been nesting with its mate and chicks on a 40-foot light pole over left field, when it was struck after several pitches by Ryu during pre-game practice time.

"He laughed when he missed," Efron, said. "Then he acted like he was sorry when the bird was laying there."

The osprey is being treated for a serious eye injury at the Animal Clinic of Edgewater, Fla., where veterinarians are using anti-inflammatory drugs and are trying to get Ozzy to eat.

"We're just keeping him warm and quiet," said technician Jennifer Rosenfeldt. "It's unfortunate that people don't have respect for nature."

Officials with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission are tight-lipped about its investigation into the incident, but it says ospreys are recognized by the state as a species of special concern, meaning their habitats are vulnerable.

Wounding or killing one is a second-degree misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $500 and 60 days in jail.

"You can't intentionally harm an animal," said Daytona Beach Animal Control officer Melody Baum. "If somebody deliberately threw the ball, it's animal cruelty."

Team officials are still trying to determine details of the incident.

"I've got to look and see what happened," Cubs manager Rick Kranitz said. "I'm sure the intention was not to kill the bird."

According to WKMG-TV in Orlando, angry phone calls and e-mails have been pouring into the park, with most messages suggesting the pitcher be punished for his actions.
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Old 04-23-2003, 02:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, if he did it intentionally, as it says he did, I don't really see anything wrong with a fine of maybe $100 or so. Still, anything more than a fine is a rediculous punishment.
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Old 04-23-2003, 02:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't support animal abuse at all. People that abuse animals are sick bastards IMO.

If he did indeed intend to kill the bird, that pisses me off.

But then again, hunting birds is practiced all over this country. And I look down on that too.

Whether he should be fined or not isn't for me to determine, but it does say something about this guy's character based on his actions, and IMO he is a lesser person for doing what he did.
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Old 04-23-2003, 02:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He's got nothing on <a href="http://www.ebaumsworld.com/birdball.html">Randy Johnson.</a>
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm not a big animal rights activist but WTF? Why crash a baseball into a defenseless bird? I think the guy should be fined for animal cruelty. What a dickhead.
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Did the bird sue?


That's stupid.
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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He needs a small fine and a corrective slap. Jail time for killing a bird is ridiculous.
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If he intentionally tried to kill the bird I could see a fine. I mean there was no reason to attack a bird for no reason. But as was allready mentioned anything more then a small fine would just be stupid
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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World's King... I can get you useless facts where there have been defense attorney's on Behalf of insect..and some of them even won

At first it sounded stupid, but to purposely do it? What kinda sick freak are you? I say instead of a fine or anything, we make him do the same thing to a hornet's Nest.. That'll Teach 'Em

The bird wasn't attacking.. It apparently had a name... If it had a name it has taken on pet like qualities... Hence the reason all this is going down. I don't like hunting either, but at least hunters get a license to do it and wear that colorful jacket (so the animals know who to attack )
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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HOF'er Dave Winfield has also had bird run-ins:

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He still gets ribbed (and occasionally cursed) about the seagull incident. In Toronto during the 1983 season, he noticed a seagull on the fence as he was warming up with the ball boy. He threw the ball in front of the gull to scare it off, but the ball took a bad hop and killed the poor bird. Winfield was booed unmercifully the rest of the game and had stuff thrown at him. After the game he was arrested and booked. "So here I am; it's after midnight and next to me is exhibit A, it's feet sticking up in the air, stiff now and laying on a handkerchief." He was released but Toronto fans were on his case the rest of the season. New York manager Billy Martin's response: "First time he hit the cutoff man all year". He was booed in New York and 40,000 Detroit fans clapped their arms at him. In the offseason he went back to Toronto and helped with the Easter Seal campaign. He has been pretty much exonerated but still catches an occasional boo.
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Old 04-24-2003, 07:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Jailtime for injuring a bird IS ridiculous. There are people out there who abuse their spouses and don't get jail time.

However, the article says that pitcher hit the bird intentionally. He's a dickhead. He shouldn't do jailtime, but he is definitely a dickhead.
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Old 04-24-2003, 07:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
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rock_bottom: thats a great clip...

as for this guy... the osprey is an endangered species... and so if it dies then theres one less breeding pair..blah blah... the guys an ass and should face a fine...
i'm not a rights activist or anything...ive gone hunting... but i dont hunt endangered species... and i dont leave them crippled in a vet hospital...
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I read that crazy story from FARK and I thought the pitcher was dumb as hell to aim for a bird up on a 40 foot pole, he deserves the demotion for being STUPID but he should not be fined
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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A fine won't do any good, he needs to be bitch slapped. What an idiot.
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:20 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Dave Winfield and Randy Johnson both did it ACCIDENTALLY. I believe it's happened other times during games.

This guy carefully took aim and fired a ball at a living thing. To make matters worse, it was an endangered animal.

It may seem frivolous at first--and yes, it wasn't a baby(as stated earlier)--but imagine if someone did this to your dog or cat.

Of course, it's not as serious as getting drug dealers off the streets or catching murderers, but I somehow doubt that law enforcement is taking many man hours away from those crimes to investigate this.

This type of behavior is wrong. He deserves to be punished.
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah, we get a little kooky sometimes with our punishments of seemingly minor infractions while ignoring more violent crimes and such, but come on...what kind of retard intentionally hurts things, even if it is just a bird?

He sounds like the kind of guy who, as a kid, used to see how many frogs he could smash with a big rock, or how many dogs he could hit with a bb gun.
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:32 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Fine that ass if he did it on purpose. But i think jail time is excessive... maybe make him do community service...
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Old 04-24-2003, 09:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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reminds me of a news story I heard recently from a city in my state, where the radicals were attempting to persuade the city officials to adopt a new ordinance banning the construction of new cell phone towers. According the the radical activists, birds are flying into the towers and dying.

It seems to me that if we allow our goverments to make up rediculous laws like this, where will they stop? If they ban new towers first, then they will have a foundation to make laws to remove the old towers. Then what? Telephone poles? Buildings? Trees?

If you ask me, I think birds like towers. If you ever get close to one, you'll see birds sitting all over them.

WTF? What kind of world do we live in where the animals have more rights than the people. I really think that the animals were put here for a reason, and that reason isn't what all the freaks think it was, either!

just my opinion, of course ....
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Old 04-24-2003, 09:51 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 04-24-2003, 09:54 AM   #20 (permalink)
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WTF? What kind of world do we live in where the animals have more rights than the people. I really think that the animals were put here for a reason, and that reason isn't what all the freaks think it was, either!

just my opinion, of course ....

I certainly respect your opinion, but I don't feel that animals have more rights than the people. If this guy had seen a person...thought about hitting him....then carefully aimed....and fired a baseball at him....he would still be in trouble with the law.
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Old 04-24-2003, 09:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I was just aiming the gun in jest, officer. I didn't mean for it to go off and kill my friend.

He intentionally threw the ball at the bird. Against the law. Pay the fine and move on.
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:26 AM   #22 (permalink)
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This threads for the birds.....



Sorry couldnt help myself.....he should be fined
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:36 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I hate birds. Dirty little animals, if it were a cat or a dog or something then sure, they're cute. That's about as far as my animal rights activism goes though.
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:42 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I can understand everyone who push animal rights up in arms cause he "aimed" for the bird, but come on! I would be willing to bet some kids/teens are outside right now throwing rocks at dogs/cats/birds/whatever and they are not going to jail, comm. sevice and/or a fine but no one would care this must much. Once it hits the news, the shit hits the fan, everyone cares now. He may be an ass, he may just hate animals (everyone is intitled to his opiuion), but jail time rediculaus. I knew a guy once who would hit animals that wouldn't get out of the way of his truck, and he would keep score... so does that make him a serial killer?
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Old 04-24-2003, 12:07 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission criminally charged former Daytona Beach Cubs pitcher Jae-kuk Ryu Thursday for injuring an osprey earlier this week at Jackie Robinson Stadium in Daytona Beach.

Witnesses told investigators that Ryu threw several balls at the osprey while it was perched above the field Monday during warm-up for the evening game.

One of the balls hit the osprey in the head, and after a few seconds the bird fell to the ground, Local 6 News reported.

Other players on the field rushed to assist the injured osprey, which was eventually taken to the Animal Clinic of Edgewater, where it is being treated for head and eye injuries.

The bird is in danger of losing it's eye because of the injury.

Ospreys are recognized by the state as a species of special concern, meaning their habitats are vulnerable.

Ryu is charged with a second degree misdemeanor under Florida Administrative Code which carries a maximum penalty of a $500 fine and 60 days in jail.

Ryu will appear in Volusia County Court in Daytona on a date to be set later.

Daytona general manager Buck Rogers said the team, as an act of contrition, will hold a fundraiser for the Animal Clinic of Edgewater on Friday night.

The Chicago Cubs will provide autographed balls for auction, and the Daytona Cubs will donate $1 for every fan in attendance.
Article can be found HERE.
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Old 04-24-2003, 12:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I can understand everyone who push animal rights up in arms cause he "aimed" for the bird, but come on! I would be willing to bet some kids/teens are outside right now throwing rocks at dogs/cats/birds/whatever and they are not going to jail, comm. sevice and/or a fine but no one would care this must much.
If they were throwing rocks at and killing endangered species, then yes, they should be punished. Baseball players (and all athletes) are in the spotlight constantly, so it is only fitting that if they break rules/laws they should be punished. Everyone that breaks laws should be punished, it's just a matter of who witnesses the crimes.

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I knew a guy once who would hit animals that wouldn't get out of the way of his truck, and he would keep score... so does that make him a serial killer?
If he was hitting endangered species with his truck intentionally, then yes, I would argue he is a criminal in the same sense that the player above is.

I look down on people that abuse animals, so I am abviously biased, but then again so is everyone. This guy was in the spotlight, and he did something stupid and that the judge ruled was a second-degree misdemeanor. Whether that is right or not is debateable, but it is what the ruling was.

Am I in support? Sure am. I am almost always in support of rulings that help cut down on needless abuse or killing of animals.
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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<climbing on soapbox> Okay jail time for hurting a bird is ridiculous but I do believe that this kid should absolutely be punished in that his actions to hurt/kill this animal were intentional. For anyone who says "it's just a bird" well, what is next for this kid - a cat, then a dog then a human? I'm sorry but cruelty to ANY animal is still cruelty and his parents should have taught him to respect not only people but the creatures we share this world with.
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Old 04-24-2003, 03:14 PM   #28 (permalink)
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i wish that people would use a bit more common sense. while i semi-agree with sixate that we should deal with important things, the fact of the matter is that big problems don't just happen, they develop from small problems. animal cruelty is one of those "small" problems. a vast majority of murderers, serial killers, rapists, and wife beaters, grew up mistreating animals. and because of the lax views of people like sixate and others, they grew up without getting reprimanded, and as a result they become horrible people. this guy deserves to be fined, and more. he has major problems.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:04 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Wow he has good aim, he hit it in the eye? He's still a mean guy for doing it though. The fine seems like the right punishment, jails need to be filled up with criminals that hurt people.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Fine him, flick his willie with a rubber band and let him get back to baseball. At least he did not make the bird explode like RJ.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Of course the guy is going to go to jail, while wife-beaters and drunk drivers roam the streets. The bird has better representation.
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think that Ryu guy is an asshole. Leave the freeking birds alone!!!
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Old 04-24-2003, 07:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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