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Sweetpea · 02-20-2006, 02:11 PM

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Sicko "Marriage Contract" One For The Ages
Repulsive "Wifely Expectations" pact emerges in Iowa kidnap case FEBRUARY 17--This country, as you know, is filled with the deranged. And then there's Travis Frey, a 33-year-old Iowa man who is facing charges that he tried to kidnap his own wife (not to mention a separate child pornography rap). Frey, prosecutors contend, apparently is a rather demanding guy. In fact, he actually drew up a bizarre four-page marriage document--a "Contract of Wifely Expectations"--that sought to establish guidelines for his spouse in terms of hygiene, clothing, and sexual activities. In return for fulfilling certain requirements, Frey (pictured right) offered "Good Behavior Days," or GBDs. Each GBD, Frey wrote, could be redeemed by his wife to "get out of doing the things" he requested daily. A copy of the proposed contract, which Frey's wife never signed and later provided to cops, can be found below. While we normally point out the highlights of most documents, there are so many in this demented, and very graphic, contract, we really can't do it justice.

HERE IS A NEW LINKY FROM NBC news on this story for those who think this is fake
Here is another source for the story from NBC

http://www.nbc4.tv/family/6812175/detail.html

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...contract1.html

Here is the link to the contract this horrific man made his wife live by and the contract below.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...contract1.html

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I don't know what to say... except that i'm truly sickened.
The emotional abuse and other abuses that this woman suffered i cannot imagine.

sweetpea

ShaniFaye · 02-20-2006, 02:28 PM

I shouldnt make light of this....I really really shouldnt, because I know that this must have been awful for a woman that wasnt willingly living a "submissive" lifestyle. It makes me sick to read it knowing that this wasnt a "consentual" thing.

but....I think I will rewrite this and make it effective for Dave hehehehe

BigBen · 02-20-2006, 02:35 PM

Is this for real?

The good news: His owner in prison was provided the same documentation, and the general population was informed of his child-porn charges...

This shows what happens when sickos run loose over the vulnerable.

Ustwo · 02-20-2006, 02:43 PM

I love the fonts for the headers.

So the guy was nuts, BFD, at least he didn't kill anyone. I'm far less shocked and horrified by this than a guy who kills his wife.

Redjake · 02-20-2006, 02:45 PM

I saw this on TSG. I should have popped some popcorn, this was truly entertainment. This guy is a mega sicko. The "GBD" was like "DKP" in Molten Core runs in World of Warcraft. I couldn't believe it.

noodle · 02-20-2006, 02:45 PM

I would have laughed and thrown it in his face, then walked out on my 3" heels into the real light of day. That's sick.

Sweetpea · 02-20-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

I love the fonts for the headers.

So the guy was nuts, BFD, at least he didn't kill anyone. I'm far less shocked and horrified by this than a guy who kills his wife.

well duh

granted, of course it's worse to have killed someone. But that does not take away from how awful this situation was.

I was not asking you to compare this to killing his wife...

sweetpea

Sweetpea · 02-20-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye

I shouldnt make light of this....I really really shouldnt, because I know that this must have been awful for a woman that wasnt willingly living a "submissive" lifestyle. It makes me sick to read it knowing that this wasnt a "consentual" thing.

but....I think I will rewrite this and make it effective for Dave hehehehe

Shani... that's funny. I have no problem with people who are willingly in such situations

sweetpea

Sultana · 02-20-2006, 02:51 PM

It's so awful that it's hard to take seriously. I can't tell you what I would have seriously considered doing to this man, lest you be forced to testify against me.

maleficent · 02-20-2006, 02:51 PM

Perv's sicko pact

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BY OWEN MORITZ
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

When Ruth Frey tied the knot with her husband, she told police she did not expect to be tied to a bed, sexually assaulted and asked to sign a sick contract that conferred weird sexual obligations on her.

Travis Frey, a 33-year-old Iowa father of two, has been charged with first-degree kidnapping and assaulting his wife three times after allegedly tying her to a bed with a rope.

Ruth Frey told Council Bluffs police her husband was angry with her for taking their two daughters to church.

But the case turned even more bizarre when prosecutors produced a four-page "Contract of Wifely Expectations" they said Frey had wanted his spouse to sign.

The document, a copy of which was obtained by TheSmokingGun.com, stipulated that Ruth Frey was to do "anything and everything" her husband wanted.

The contract required she be naked once the kids went to sleep, walk around the house in heels and shave her underarms, legs and pubic area every third day.

Under the heading of "My Time," Travis Frey stipulated his wife to "be subservient, submissive and totally obedient" and "to do what you are asked, when you are asked, how you are asked" and "perform any and all sexual acts."

Further, his wife was never to argue with him, complain about "anything to me or about me," raise her voice or "sigh, moan, bulk [sic] or otherwise show displeasure or unhappiness."

The contract also required his wife to pose for pictures 20 times a quarter, with Travis Frey selecting the positions.

Her wild and crazy hubby did offer his wife the chance to earn "good behavior days," provided she performed "everything with complete and total enthusiasm."

The GBDs, as he called them, could be used to "get out of" doing things.

Troubles for Travis Frey have mounted in recent days. Council Bluffs police have added 12 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor after officers found illegal pictures on his computer while investigating the kidnapping complaint.

Travis Frey has pleaded not guilty to the kidnapping charge. Now out on bond, he faces trial March 14.

In Iowa, kidnapping is a class A felony and carries a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

Ruth Frey, who married her husband for better or worse nine years ago, told prosecutors she did not sign the document.

they were married for 9 years.. and had 2 children... at what point did the contact come into play?

StanT · 02-20-2006, 02:53 PM

It take 2 to Tango and all.

I'm guessing my wife would be OK with the first paragraph. After that it's hard to tell if she'd be laughing at me or leaving me, probably both.

The_Jazz · 02-20-2006, 03:02 PM

Obviously there's no boilerplate for this kind of thing, so Mr. Frey obviously spent a lot of time and energy writing this. It's actually a much better document than what I originally expected, from a legal standpoint. There aren't any obvious errors beyond the fact that no sane person should ever expect it to be honored like a legal contract.

I wonder if he'll be the bitch for the Aryan Brotherhood or Latin Kings in the joint.... Either way, I'm hoping that he'll think fondly of the paragraph about lubrication when he's sentenced to pound-him-in-the-ass prison. Good luck, Mr. Frey.

Sweetpea · 02-20-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StanT

It take 2 to Tango and all.

Well, i see where you are coming from with that logic...

However, in domestic violence situations, and i am openly making the assumption that this marriage was a clear cut DV situation, as it falls into that criteria... where the self-esteem of the abused individual, (in this case his wife) becomes so distored, they feel they are so worthless, they often fear leaving the relationship.
Depression often accompanies these types of situation, so those might have been reasons she stayed for the duration of the 9 years?

sweetpea

Sweetpea · 02-20-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

they were married for 9 years.. and had 2 children... at what point did the contact come into play?

Good question Mal, that information was not given.

sweetpea

Redjake · 02-20-2006, 03:10 PM

It says she "never signed" the contract. I'm guessing she never had to participate in it. That's good.

shesus · 02-20-2006, 03:10 PM

I would feel sorry for this woman and I do in a way, but she stayed and put up with it. There is always a way out. Maybe she had no family and/or friends to help her. Maybe she is a glutton for punishment. I don't know but that contract seems like too much of a hassle. That guy has major insecurities and a skewed vision of relationships. Now myself, I shave everyday, I own heels, and I sleep naked. Most of the things come naturally in a relationship without forcing it through a contract.

I'm with Fredweena on this one except I would put out a cigarette on his contract too as I stepped on it with my heels and walked out in my thigh highs and mini skirt.

Although that's easier said than done when you are tangled up in an abusive relationship. This is why you should *really* get to know the person before committing.

Sweetpea · 02-20-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shesus

Although that's easier said than done when you are tangled up in an abusive relationship. This is why you should *really* get to know the person before committing.

^^ So true.

sweetpea

JumpinJesus · 02-20-2006, 03:14 PM

This guy should have his sentence given to him by the judge in a similar format.

I seriously hope the wife gets some counseling. While she didn't sign the contract, the fact that she put up with a man this fucked up shows she has some serious issues of her own to sort out.

raeanna74 · 02-20-2006, 03:17 PM

Are you certain this is for real? I can't seem to find it anywhere else that doesn't have a link back to The Smoking Gun.

I know there are some nuts out there like this. What I can't believe is that the woman stuck with him for any time at all. Though I know some do/would.

I am REALLY hoping that they never had any kids. That's why I went searching, to see if I could learn more about the situation. I cannot imagine the trauma of living with a father like this. I hope the wife gets 100% of the property at least AND most of all I hope that she finds a guy who has a lot more respect for women.

Shani - your situation does not result from a lack of respect but from an abundance of it, I believe. This guy was the opposite of anyone in your kind of relationship.

analog · 02-20-2006, 03:26 PM

Funny how it's sick just because you don't understand it. In a D/s relationship, many of the above would be pretty common.

He wanted a submissive... his mistake, which was very wrong was applying his ideals to a person who didn't agree.

(and no, i wouldn't treat a woman like that- just being informative.)

Borla · 02-20-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by raeanna74

Are you certain this is for real? I can't seem to find it anywhere else that doesn't have a link back to The Smoking Gun.

I know there are some nuts out there like this. What I can't believe is that the woman stuck with him for any time at all. Though I know some do/would.

I am REALLY hoping that they never had any kids. That's why I went searching, to see if I could learn more about the situation. I cannot imagine the trauma of living with a father like this. I hope the wife gets 100% of the property at least AND most of all I hope that she finds a guy who has a lot more respect for women.

Shani - your situation does not result from a lack of respect but from an abundance of it, I believe. This guy was the opposite of anyone in your kind of relationship.

Here is another link about it. http://www.nbc4.tv/family/6812175/detail.html

Sometimes I wonder what can go on in people's heads when they are in situations like this...........both his head and her head.

JumpinJesus · 02-20-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by analog

Funny how it's sick just because you don't understand it. In a D/s relationship, many of the above would be pretty common.

He wanted a submissive... his mistake, which was very wrong was applying his ideals to a person who didn't agree.

(and no, i wouldn't treat a woman like that- just being informative.)

Well, yeah. But most dom/sub relationships are consentual. What makes this man fucked up is he sought to dominate regardless of the wants of the the sub. Also, this needs to be placed in context. The man allegedly was involved in child pornography and kidnapped his own wife. Coupled with the contract he sought, this makes for a fucked up man.

The difference between a dom and a fucked up man like this is the whole consentual thing. Ergo, this man is fucked up.

Zeraph · 02-20-2006, 03:41 PM

An organized wacko, isn't that an oxymoron? I smell hoax.

maleficent · 02-20-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by raeanna74

I am REALLY hoping that they never had any kids. That's why I went searching, to see if I could learn more about the situation. I cannot imagine the trauma of living with a father like this. I hope the wife gets 100% of the property at least AND most of all I hope that she finds a guy who has a lot more respect for women

Sadly, there are two daughters... and this problem seemed to come to a head when the mother had the audacity to take the girls to church... Oh the horror...

ASU2003 · 02-20-2006, 04:02 PM

I'm surprised there was nothing about weight in there. I've heard of people getting pre-nups with weight restrictions, sex acts, and some other interesting things.

I found a few of those requests ok, most were a little dominate and weird though.

I'm sure a lot of women would have a problem if the man they married was a doctor but decided teaching high school was better. They would have to change their lifestyle and when she tells people what he does for a living, it doesn't sound as good.

That brings up the question: Are we expected to change to fit who our partners ideal mate would be? Or should they love you even if you stopped bathing for weeks, started yelling and nagging, and didn't want to have sex?

Most people would break up with someone if their personality changed, I would think.

fresnelly · 02-20-2006, 04:17 PM

I'm very curious about the husband's family background. How was he raised? What was his Parent's marriage like? Does have any siblings?

Also, what on earth were the circumstances of their courtship?

Alas, questions that we won't have answered.

pinkie · 02-20-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye

I shouldnt make light of this....I really really shouldnt, because I know that this must have been awful for a woman that wasnt willingly living a "submissive" lifestyle. It makes me sick to read it knowing that this wasnt a "consentual" thing.

but....I think I will rewrite this and make it effective for Dave hehehehe

heeheehee...

JStrider · 02-20-2006, 04:53 PM

thats pretty screwy...

would make a great april fools joke for someone tho

Carno · 02-20-2006, 04:53 PM

LOL

That is the funniest/scariest thing I have ever read. It boggles the mind that there are people out there who actually think of something like that. That dude is a serious wackjob.

Sounds like something one of those psycho freakshow Mormons would do. Some of them are really out there.

raeanna74 · 02-20-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

Sadly, there are two daughters... and this problem seemed to come to a head when the mother had the audacity to take the girls to church... Oh the horror...

Oh that is the worst part of this. Now, unless they manage to imprison this guy, the mother will have to deal with him, fight him for custody, or fear him kidnapping her daughters. I cannot imagine the fear in the girls and mother's hearts if this guy is truely released on bail. He's nuts and unpredicable. What makes it seem worse is that he doesn't beleive he did anything wrong.

oberon · 02-20-2006, 06:44 PM

I can't really imagine getting a better relationship out of a contract like that. Prenups are bad enough for relationships.

Justsomeguy · 02-20-2006, 06:59 PM

Fake!

Supposing it is legit, did anyone else notice the amount of obvious grammatical errors? There is absolutely no way that I would be pushed around by such a dumb fuck.

cyrnel · 02-20-2006, 07:21 PM

/me looks around for Rod Serling, 'cause if he isn't in that guy's world he must be in mine.

I'm hoping it's a hoax but if it isn't, wow.

ASU2003 · 02-20-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fresnelly

I'm very curious about the husband's family background. How was he raised? What was his Parent's marriage like? Does have any siblings?

Also, what on earth were the circumstances of their courtship?

I'll take a guess. His Dad is a controlling perfectionist. He's the type of Dad that wants his son to win every sporting event and gets violent with the ref/other Dads at the game. His Dad has what seems to be a perfect marriage to his wife, who does everything he wants. The son was probably psychologically if not physically abused. Other siblings don't matter too much, unless they are bragging about being in a great relationship, and he has to compete with them.

I have no idea about the dating process, but I bet she was attracted to him, and it's probably like every other abusive relationship out there.

snowy · 02-20-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cyrnel

I'm hoping it's a hoax but if it isn't, wow.

Here's a video of Frey going to court on Friday (click the Most Popular tab and then look for the Man Accused of Kidnapping Wife video).

http://www.ketv.com/video/index.html

Hoax? I don't think so.

shakran · 02-20-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Justsomeguy

Fake!

Supposing it is legit, did anyone else notice the amount of obvious grammatical errors? There is absolutely no way that I would be pushed around by such a dumb fuck.

nope. Not fake, unfortunately. I know the photographer who worked the story. Met him at a seminar years ago. I didn't believe it either so I called him up and he confirmed.

cyrnel · 02-20-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by onesnowyowl

Here's a video ...
http://www.ketv.com/video/index.html

Thanks for the link. Wow.

The contract had me laughing out loud initially but now I can't help but wonder at the guy's backstory. Upbringing, occupation, falls onto head, you name it.

Biffaloo420 · 02-20-2006, 08:44 PM

I'd just have to say I'm speechless!!!

Sweetpea · 02-20-2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Justsomeguy

Fake!

Supposing it is legit, did anyone else notice the amount of obvious grammatical errors? There is absolutely no way that I would be pushed around by such a dumb fuck.

ummm...
excuse me, not a fake ... this guy is in jail right now.

Here is another source for the story from NBC

http://www.nbc4.tv/family/6812175/detail.html

just google his name... there are many stories on this.

sweetpea

la petite moi · 02-20-2006, 11:52 PM

Sad, just sad. I mean, it sounds great if you wanna be a sub. But damn, poor woman.

02-20-2006, 02:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I shouldnt make light of this....I really really shouldnt, because I know that this must have been awful for a woman that wasnt willingly living a "submissive" lifestyle. It makes me sick to read it knowing that this wasnt a "consentual" thing. but....I think I will rewrite this and make it effective for Dave hehehehe __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

02-20-2006, 02:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigBen Comedian Location: Use the search button	Is this for real? The good news: His owner in prison was provided the same documentation, and the general population was informed of his child-porn charges... This shows what happens when sickos run loose over the vulnerable. __________________ 3.141592654 Hey, if you are impressed with my memorizing pi to 10 digits, you should see the size of my penis.

02-20-2006, 02:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	I love the fonts for the headers. So the guy was nuts, BFD, at least he didn't kill anyone. I'm far less shocked and horrified by this than a guy who kills his wife. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

02-20-2006, 02:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	I saw this on TSG. I should have popped some popcorn, this was truly entertainment. This guy is a mega sicko. The "GBD" was like "DKP" in Molten Core runs in World of Warcraft. I couldn't believe it. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-20-2006, 02:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sultana Falling Angel Location: L.A. L.A. land	It's so awful that it's hard to take seriously. I can't tell you what I would have seriously considered doing to this man, lest you be forced to testify against me. __________________ "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." - Matt Groening My goal? To fulfill my potential.

02-20-2006, 02:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
StanT © Location: Colorado	It take 2 to Tango and all. I'm guessing my wife would be OK with the first paragraph. After that it's hard to tell if she'd be laughing at me or leaving me, probably both.

02-20-2006, 03:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
The_Jazz Asshole Administrator Location: Chicago	Obviously there's no boilerplate for this kind of thing, so Mr. Frey obviously spent a lot of time and energy writing this. It's actually a much better document than what I originally expected, from a legal standpoint. There aren't any obvious errors beyond the fact that no sane person should ever expect it to be honored like a legal contract. I wonder if he'll be the bitch for the Aryan Brotherhood or Latin Kings in the joint.... Either way, I'm hoping that he'll think fondly of the paragraph about lubrication when he's sentenced to pound-him-in-the-ass prison. Good luck, Mr. Frey. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

02-20-2006, 03:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	It says she "never signed" the contract. I'm guessing she never had to participate in it. That's good. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-20-2006, 03:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
shesus Fancy Location: Chicago	I would feel sorry for this woman and I do in a way, but she stayed and put up with it. There is always a way out. Maybe she had no family and/or friends to help her. Maybe she is a glutton for punishment. I don't know but that contract seems like too much of a hassle. That guy has major insecurities and a skewed vision of relationships. Now myself, I shave everyday, I own heels, and I sleep naked. Most of the things come naturally in a relationship without forcing it through a contract. I'm with Fredweena on this one except I would put out a cigarette on his contract too as I stepped on it with my heels and walked out in my thigh highs and mini skirt. Although that's easier said than done when you are tangled up in an abusive relationship. This is why you should really get to know the person before committing. __________________ Whatever did happen to your soul? I heard you sold it Choose Heaven for the weather and Hell for the company

02-20-2006, 03:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	This guy should have his sentence given to him by the judge in a similar format. I seriously hope the wife gets some counseling. While she didn't sign the contract, the fact that she put up with a man this fucked up shows she has some serious issues of her own to sort out. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

02-20-2006, 03:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	Are you certain this is for real? I can't seem to find it anywhere else that doesn't have a link back to The Smoking Gun. I know there are some nuts out there like this. What I can't believe is that the woman stuck with him for any time at all. Though I know some do/would. I am REALLY hoping that they never had any kids. That's why I went searching, to see if I could learn more about the situation. I cannot imagine the trauma of living with a father like this. I hope the wife gets 100% of the property at least AND most of all I hope that she finds a guy who has a lot more respect for women. Shani - your situation does not result from a lack of respect but from an abundance of it, I believe. This guy was the opposite of anyone in your kind of relationship. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

02-20-2006, 03:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
analog Banned	Funny how it's sick just because you don't understand it. In a D/s relationship, many of the above would be pretty common. He wanted a submissive... his mistake, which was very wrong was applying his ideals to a person who didn't agree. (and no, i wouldn't treat a woman like that- just being informative.)

02-20-2006, 03:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	An organized wacko, isn't that an oxymoron? I smell hoax.

02-20-2006, 04:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
ASU2003 immoral minority Location: Back in Ohio	I'm surprised there was nothing about weight in there. I've heard of people getting pre-nups with weight restrictions, sex acts, and some other interesting things. I found a few of those requests ok, most were a little dominate and weird though. I'm sure a lot of women would have a problem if the man they married was a doctor but decided teaching high school was better. They would have to change their lifestyle and when she tells people what he does for a living, it doesn't sound as good. That brings up the question: Are we expected to change to fit who our partners ideal mate would be? Or should they love you even if you stopped bathing for weeks, started yelling and nagging, and didn't want to have sex? Most people would break up with someone if their personality changed, I would think.

02-20-2006, 04:17 PM	#26 (permalink)
fresnelly Functionally Appropriate Location: Toronto	I'm very curious about the husband's family background. How was he raised? What was his Parent's marriage like? Does have any siblings? Also, what on earth were the circumstances of their courtship? Alas, questions that we won't have answered. __________________ Building an artificial intelligence that appreciates Mozart is easy. Building an A.I. that appreciates a theme restaurant is the real challenge - Kit Roebuck - Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

02-20-2006, 04:53 PM	#28 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	thats pretty screwy... would make a great april fools joke for someone tho __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

02-20-2006, 04:53 PM	#29 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	LOL That is the funniest/scariest thing I have ever read. It boggles the mind that there are people out there who actually think of something like that. That dude is a serious wackjob. Sounds like something one of those psycho freakshow Mormons would do. Some of them are really out there. __________________ http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

02-20-2006, 06:44 PM	#31 (permalink)
oberon Quadrature Amplitude Modulator Location: Denver	I can't really imagine getting a better relationship out of a contract like that. Prenups are bad enough for relationships. __________________ "There are finer fish in the sea than have ever been caught." -- Irish proverb

02-20-2006, 06:59 PM	#32 (permalink)
Justsomeguy Insane	Fake! Supposing it is legit, did anyone else notice the amount of obvious grammatical errors? There is absolutely no way that I would be pushed around by such a dumb fuck.

02-20-2006, 07:21 PM	#33 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	/me looks around for Rod Serling, 'cause if he isn't in that guy's world he must be in mine. I'm hoping it's a hoax but if it isn't, wow. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

02-20-2006, 08:44 PM	#38 (permalink)
Biffaloo420 Upright Location: Machesney Park, IL	I'd just have to say I'm speechless!!! __________________ Is there really such a thing as peace and happiness?

02-20-2006, 11:52 PM	#40 (permalink)
la petite moi Filling the Void. Location: California	Sad, just sad. I mean, it sounds great if you wanna be a sub. But damn, poor woman.