Everyday items as weapons...
 

From what I understand, most of the martial arts weapons had their genesis in everyday items such as farming tools, etc. I was just wondering, what everyday items have you thought about or seen used as weapons. (Obviously kitchen knives, etc. excluded.)

For instance, a belt. Post what you think.

A rolled up magazine/newspaper.
My Hanshi used to ask semi-new students if paper could hurt you.
No matter the answer you got a nice poke in the gut with todays roled up paper. Yes it hurts!

Ashtray... they are usually made out of glass, stone, metal, etc.
Books. The essential tool of selfdefence for any student. Many of theese objects are made from wood and especially in highschool they tend to be rather heavy... :/

In general, anything that has the weight of a brick or above, a sharp or pointy edge, can be used as a weapon.

Fascinating about the paper. Makes sense, though.

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CDs make *wonderful* throwing-star-type-dealies.

You are the weapon every thing else is just a tool.
But if if you need a gun THAT IS THE TOOL YOU NEED. And if you do not have that tool in the box you are f#cked!!

picture frames work well- see above on ashtrays- broom handles and simmilar sticks are quite nice pens and pencils are fair stabbing implements- by the way - any body read the book shibumi- (think spelling right) was by the guy that wrote the eiger sanction- think he was named trevenian- anyway- the assasin in that book- also main character always prefered to kill with household objects....

something large/heavy/with leverage

Ani Defranco said

Well, everyday...hmmm, papercutter blades, a broken glass, curtain rod, lifting weights, a spoon, a fork, power cord, piano wire, letter opener, picture frame, chair, chair leg, wooden box, metal box, monkey wrench, hard cover book, lighter, cigarette (Lit, for a prime example, in the Graphic Novel Watchmen, Kovaks as a kid shoved a lit one in the eye of one of a group of kids who were tormenting him, then he jumps on one of the others and starts mangling him and biting his face) Paint thinner, Hair spray, shaving cream, thumb tacks, keyboard, monitor, computer, mouse, speakers, tv, tv stand, general broken objects of hard structure. I can't think of more right now.

hehe a spray with a lighter, or some gasolin and a lighter lol

you can kill with a straw

try it get a raw potato , cover one end of straw jam into potato.

SCARY.

Re: Everyday items as weapons...
 

saying that most martial arts weapons came from farming tools is wrong... during the period in Japan when the common people were prohibited from carryiny weapons, they did develop farming tools for that use. For example, the kama is derived from the sickle, nunchaku from the flail to beat grain, tonfa from the handle of a grinder, sai were used to plant seeds...

spears, swords, daggers and the great majority of other 'martial arts weapons' were designed to be weapons first and foremost.

ok done clearing up the details.

My number one favourite easy-to-use and everyday weapon is:

my mind

but some other nifty ones are:
1) a steaming hot cup of coffee
2) ID/credit card (cut the corners into 90 degree angles and they'll cut like a knife)

and everyone has heard of using car keys

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That's exactly what I'm talking about...so, how exactly was I wrong? Perhaps I should have said that martial arts weapons, in general, were derived from farming equipment. I knew about the oppressive Japanese government being the reason. Obviously, spears, swords, etc...were not originally designed as farming equipment. Furthermore, I don't consider those weapons inherently "martial arts" weapons. Saying that the statement is wrong, is a bit presumptuous.

That being said, the credit card idea is a good one.

</b>seizei</b>
You are so correct.
I fly a lot on business, and as long as I have my wallet, I am very well armed. I always place a credit card in my shirt pocket while I'm on a plane, and I always also make sure to grab a pillow and blanket, as a defensive measure.

You can do the same thing with laminated drivers licenses or even photographs.

when i was younger i became convinced an aluminum ladder was a perfect weapon after watching a jackie chan movie. That guy does some amazing stuff with everyday items :)

the massive 6 Dcell mag lites... ive got a 4 Dcell one in my car... id like to get a 6 tho... they make great clubs...

JSrider, ya man, police use those, there nuts.

Personally I've always been fasinated by tools that could be weapons, well that are I guess.
Other than that, well there's shanks.

Weedtime got it right.

"You are the weapon"

ANYTHING can be a weapon. I'm surprised no one's mentioned items commonly found as litter on the street. Beer bottles (broken or unbroken), pipes, rocks, sand (kick it into their eyes), etc. There are all sorts of weapons lying around on the street.

Ricky Jay (hes a magician turned actor, the big guy who played the camera man in Boogie Nights) wrote a book called Playing Cards as Weapons which is now out of print. He used to go on Carson adn imbed cards into watermelons. If anyone has a copy of this book I would love to buy it.

Good luck man...it's on amazon.com and the cheapest price is like $200...

you don't need the book. just look it up on google, there's a guy out there who teaches you how to do it in a free website. It really does work too as my wife will tell you - she wasn't too happy when I tried the technique and stuck a card in the wall she'd just wallpapered. Oops.

Turned up in the top ten on Google.

Edit - Shit, I suck at linking.

Pillow cast with something small and hard inside. Like a golf ball, or something.

surprised no one said anything about lamps. If anyone ever broke into my room that's the first thing headed towards their face.

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meant to point out that the farm tools thing is from 1 area
(Okinawa) where weapons were outlawed. The weapons they developed have become famous as martial arts weapons, but they are a very small percentage of martial arts weapons and come from a very very small area.

so martial arts weapons, in general, were not derived from farming tools. A few specific examples of martial arts weapons, that have become very recognizable as such, were developed from farming tools, but they by no stretch of the imagination comprise the majority of martial arts weapons.

I'm personally fond of pens and pencils. It doesn't take much to use them halfways effectively, and the first time someone has a pencil protruding from some part of their body, it will take most of the fight out of them.

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

i think my keys and my fists would be my weapons. other than that weapons in my vicinity.

My favorite is the toilet seat.

What? It's curved! and quite pointy in parts!

tioilet seat?

did you read the manga of ranma 1/2 where ranma meets mouse? haha

liquid/gel candles, burning preferably.

javex.... fun to throw

tv antenna

sock with pennies inside

phone book

cacti .... throw pot and all

phoneline ... good for strangling

CATS... yeah yeah... throwing cats at people is good !!!!!

Cats! That's hilarious!

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Actually, the Nunchaku was completely a Hollywood invention. It wasn't used in the place it was supposed to come from.

Well, last night I went to see a friend. First time being at this apartment complex. So I put a big foot long screwdriver in my back pocket. I didnt think about taking anything when I left the house. And when I got there it was the only thing I had in my truck.

hmmm. i have a big 4-5 foot long 3/8" diameter steel rod in my room at all times. its for making chainmaille, but i accidently one time took out a good chunk of my wall with it.

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Nunchaku is part of Kobujutsu, which teaches the large array of traditional Okinawan weapons.

Excerpt from 'The Martial Arts Encyclopedia'. Lawler, Jennifer. Masters Press. 1996. Pg.224.

Nunchaku have been in use as a weapon for many many years. I happen to train with one of the great masters of the nunchaku - he has published instructional videos and also assures me of the nunchaku's authenticity and effectiveness (usually through somewhat painful example).

They are most certainly not a Hollywood invention.

Good question. After 9.11 the airlines took away my right to defend myself with my normal pocketknife.

Not to worry, I now carry a full metal ink pen in my shirt pocket... I'm an upstanding citizen with a beautiful writing utensil in plain view. I'll stab your ass in the neck beitch!

;-)

A friend of mine carries a nylon brush in her carryon bag that is actually a very effective piercing weapon hidden in the head of the brush. Since it is all nylon it has never been found or inspected.

i know how do kill someone with a straw.

it's so fuck'n easy.

but i prefer a little thin pencil. the kind that you put the lead into, because it has a direct path out. And mechianical pencils are sharp. Pokes someone, then blow into the other end. It sends a teeny tiny bubble of air into their bloodstream. the bubble goes to the heart, and they croak.

The most painful everyday weapon is by far a twizzler, as anyone who has ever got into a twizzler fight can attest to.:D


Seriously though, I watched two guys who started to go at it, one had a 28 oz rig axe, the other guy had a 24 oz framing hammer claws out, that would have been messy. Especially since the guy with the rig axe had already been framing for years, knew how to use it and was in great shape. The guy with the framing hammer was skinny, barely knew how to swing it, and was crazy as a loon, he was the one that started it.


Nail guns also make vicious weapons, we used to always have nail gun fights till I stuck a 1 3/8" staple most of the way into a guys leg from 40 feet away. After that we decided to chill.

are you in prison?

don't hurt me!

ummm as someone who deals with infusion therapy on a regular basis it takes alot more than a teeny tiny bubble to kill anyone. Preferably about 10-20 cc fast into the largest vein using the largest needle you can get access to. Even then it may only cause arrythmia and maybe a stroke. The likelyhood that they will croak is very low.

As to everyday weapons:
Ballpoint pens are good. And cheap. :)
We used to use soap in a sock when I was in boot camp.
The skins around here used to carry the old style really heavy large plastic combs. Apparently if ripped across someones skin fast enough they could cut. The irony that they didn't have any hair seemed to be lost on them.
Lets not for get our household power outlets. Set up properly you could easily electrocute someone. Not a portable weapon by any means. More of a home defense type thing.
Speaking of which...bleach. Ever try to breath with your face covered in bleach? Hose the fucker down with it. If you're lucky he might asphyxiate.

lol

No I'm in construction, and this happened at a local community college where I was taking some construction related classes. It was kind of crazy. I've heard of a few other jobsite hammer fights, they didn't turn out well.

I've read that one of the old irish street gangs favorite weapons was a potato or two in a stocking. Cheap, easily disposed of, and they could be lethal.

Well,

I worked 10 months in a meat plant and the industry oldtimers would tell me about knife fights on the floor, but I never got to witness one.

We did have one suspicious incident where we thought two guys knifed each other, but they swore it was an accident.

:lol:
I can see how one guy might accidentally stab another, though even that's kind of sketchy, but for a two guys to accidentally stab each other?:hmm: I don't think so.

I can add little to ther serious dicsussion, of "real" weapons, but...

while bored in highschool, my friend and I developed my own weapon made only of a rubber band and a piece of paper.

The result would leave huge welt at atleast 20 feet.

It doesn't amaze me that people in jail can create such wild tools.

No one's said a roll of quarters. How about a lollipop, with the stick out between your fingers?

I read through alittle bit of this. But a everyday item that can be used that most of us carry around is a Credit Card.

Another neat idea would be Chop Sticks. OUCH!

A Wet towel.
Sure a belt was mentioned.
For ladies or even a man. A Shoe heel can hurt.

I saw in a magazine a long time ago where you could use a cap as a weapon. You crumple up the cloth and hold the bill in your fist, pointing out. You can use the bill to jab into someone's neck or right under their nose. OUCH!

Jail weapons
 

I didn't read the all the post, so i'm not sure if this has been posted aready.

As some of you may already know, many people in jail are in there because of violent crimes. Well even though they are in jail, it doesn't stop them from fighting.

Heres 3 popular weapons used in jails:

Towel Bat -- take a towel, soak it in water, twist it until you cant twist anymore then fold in half.

Sock Bat-- take a sock and some soap....soak the soap in some water then put it in the sock, while the soap is damp, mold it into a ball. wait until the soap becomes hard and you can just swing away

toothbrush shank-- take a tooth brush and carve it into a pointy stabbing object. the toothbrushes they give you in jail are small so you will need 2, just tie the 2 toothbrushes together with a strip of cloth you get from your bed sheet.

A few home-made weapons I can personally attest to:
Forks hurt like crap when you get stabbed w/ one, and even the little plastic ones you get in the school cafeteria can draw blood. (this actually happened to me once) Sporks will also be enough to draw blood (accidentally did this to a friend once... *oops*) but they generally shatter after used with enough force to do so.
Anything hot-- working in fast food I'm SURROUNDED by weapons. They tell you in the training videos that people like to rob fast food places cuz they're easy money, but I think you'd have to be fucking retarded. Besides the obvious ones (coffee, knives, one of those big ol' roll of quarters) I have a scar on my hand from getting whacked with a hot fry basket and have always thought that the metal spatulas we use on the grill could also do some damage.
Pencils. This has allready been mentioned a few times, but always with just close-range stabbing. I've had a kid use one on me throwing-knife style, and still have a scar to prove that it'll work.

I've heard of people getting pegged in the back by full cans of beer thrown from moving cars.

I don't think it's lethal. In fact my friend just picked up the can and drank it. (I think it's required that you do this.)

Your fists can be verry effective as a weapon

Really?

I'm gonna try that!!

how bout furniture...hit someone with a chair..or break off a leg and use it as a club...

The folded paper-in-rubber band weapon is VERY painful. We used to call them "hornets" (have no idea why), but you could easily leave very large welts, not to mention putting someone's eye out, if you're a good shot.

As for new suggestions:
A billiard ball in a sock (ouch).
A door (ever had a finger slammed in a door? or how about a door slammed in your face?)
Chain-link fence (good for face rubbin')
High-heeled shoe/boot
An Iron
Golf Clubs, etc etc.

find, cut, throw.

very simple.

:D

Here is a nifty trick... ok here goes.
first take a metle wire then wrap on end around a door nob.
Then & and you might want to use gloves :) stick the other end of the metle wire in to an electricle outlite and then whoever touches the door is going to be roast duck :)

Uhm... you need to connect two wires to complete the circuit... and you won't kill them or hurt them... regular electrical outlets don't have enough power to light you on fire (which would take an insane amount of current)... the current will take the shortest path through the hand and won't pass through the chest and reach vital organs. It won't even go deep inside the hands because the shortest path is straight through the doorknob.

You may however get lucky if they take a two handed grip on the doorknob really quickly :-)

Yeah i gues your right.
:)
It would be funny

beer cans, shake them up(what a waste) but throw them and BOOM one gernade, homeade corse and watch your foes get all your beer those fuckers, thats when fans with out the grills come in they fuck over your opponents quite nicely!!!!!

I do truely hope I never am in a situation where I must choose between beer and life/safety!!!

the nail file on my gerber

Too much time to read everything above so some of this may have already been posted.

-Broom/Mop or just the stick.
-Baseball Batt
-Chair
-Chair Leg
-Anything Small and Heavy for Throwing
-Wires of any Kind
-Pipes
-Glass
-Lamps
-Drawers
-Ball Bearings
-Marbles
-Pots/Pans
-Medals
-Trophies
-Swords (hey, they're sitting around at my house)
-Fists
-Feet
-Socks
-Clothing
-Golf Clubs
-Jump Ropes
-Lifting Bars
-Rope
-Net
-Change

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head. Sorry if some of it's stupid or repetative. Sorry if some of it's stoopid or repetative.

a Dress sock full of pennies...

I'd be very interested to hear any stories of impromptu weapons used successfully in a real threat situation. I'd also be interested to hear about what actual threat the people on this board encounter on a regular basis that requires use of weapons. I've been studying theory and training for years but I've never encountered any threat that actually requires an actual physical response to resolve it.. but I don't live in the USA like you guys do. I would really like to be prepared when the time actually comes to defend myself from a real physical threat, so I would very much appreciate your stories of real world situations where you have used your skills/imagination/sheer animal instinct to defeat an attacker.

roll of duct tape. newly discovered beating device, Silly Putty, buy about 10 containers of this stretchy taffy like tearable substance. Roll it into a rope and beat someone with it, it hurts like a piece of rubber, yet it bends and can be reformed. In large globs of this material, I serisouly think it could be deadly ( a good blow to the head with a piece of hard rubber goo could do it maybe? ) Yeah, silly putty, who would have thought? heh, its 2:38 am here, maybe my mind is slipping ?

Well.. according to boondock saints.. a Toilet works quite well!.. as well as the cover for the tank.. that would be a nice weapon. Glass from anything works.. or just throw someone through your window.. break their head through the window...

HairSpray! Now I haven't used it like mace, but I can only imagine that stuff would sting in your eyes. Same goes for many things in an aerosol can. On top of that most of it is flammable. Aside from trying to make a risky Blow Torch.. After you sprayed them, aside from their hair, they'd be highly flammable.

If you have any type of tools in your garage... all of that is deadly.. put on some thick gloves, and grab a spare cicular saw blade... (or if it doesn't plug into a wall.. grab the whole thing! :D)

Water Balloons.. not much dmg, but its bound to at least make them pause for a second.. especially filled with Scolding hot water.

Rulers - can always sharpen the wooden ones if needed
Forks! -- I'm not talking about stabbing, I once got burnt by one. If its made by a weaker metal.. say the stuff they have in school.. start bending it back and forth over and over again.. right before its about to break, that metal is REALLY hot. Make contact to someone's skin. I had a scar on me for over two years because of that.

Small Hand-held Objects - We all know anything small that can be thrown works great.
Rope - duh?
Women's Nylon stuff - I forget the name, but it easily doubles as rope for purposes of strangling.
Purse -- Its like using a sock with soap.
Did anyone say Golf Club
Pocket Change - My cousins can snap those at you and leave nice marks.
Ok I'll stop here, with one last thing, as I might have listed some duplicates... I think a Tall CD Tower could double like a baseball bat

edit: I have to add this one in: Super Glue - I mean if you could get that one someone... that would mess them up a little.

Steel-toe shoes/boots. Unless you see me wearing Chuck Taylors or flip-flops, assume that my footwear has jaw-breaking capabilities.

Some Lethal Homemade Weapons!

Put a pistol or revolver in a sock and swing it!

Tie a bunch of knives together to make a bat!

Sharpened brass nuckles make excellent throwing stars!

Breaking a baseball bat in half will make an excellent speaking device.

Boiling water can be put in the freezer then carved into a knife.

Rings on ur fingers is very effective.

hehe.. a friend of mine once got blood poisoning because he shook my other friend's hand and the ring cut him... and then the blood poisoning from the ring.....

Its only funny because of the story behind it, but yeah he was in the hospital for a while.

The deadliest weapon in the world is the human brain. What can compete with that? Lions, Tigers, and Bears run from us puny humans. Why? We don't have sharp claws or teeth, or tough hide. We cannot run fast, or jump far. We cannot track by smell, see in low light, or even hear very well. And yet there is no animal that we are incapable of killing to extinction. It's the brain folks. Use it against an adversary and you'll be amazed at the things you're capable of.

Heavy cotton tie tied in a knot. Hurts like a bitch when swung hard.

Ok, you guys have some pretty good ideas for lethal weapons however, The all-time most evil weapon around the house is a candy cane ... Any of you ever seen how freaking sharp those things get if you suck on them for a bit? I cringe when someone near me is eatting a candy cane, I can just see them dropping the damn thing and impaling me then having it break inside since they are sharp and flimsy.

Needles annoy me, knifes (in my sisters hands) scare me, but candy canes is a turn around and run situation.

a sock with a bar of soap inside, ever seen Full Metal Jacket?

as far as househould manageable weapons, i wouldn't suggest anything that wouldn't take pre-meditated thought to produce.

a few fun things to keep around the house--

half a broomstick. make it about the length of your forearm or slightly longer. enough to get leverage but not so long you have no room to swing it effectivel. also good for jabs to soft-tissue areas (eyes, throat, solar plexis, backs of joints) as well as swinging.

a little league baseball bat. mine was like 26 inches of aluminum. light enough to be used one-handed and strong enough to do some damage. always something i kept handy when throwing parties or helping run them.

ladies--several rolls of quarters (40-50 dollars worth) in the bottom, especially of smaller purses. added weight, but it makes a difference as a striking object.

a blackjack. collapsable lengths of metal tubing, one inside another. has replaced the nightstick with the majority of police officers I know. collapses to 5-8 inches, and telescopes out to 14-18 inches of steel tube.

fireplace poker. wrought-iron, decent length. tons of fun.

a sock with half a brick in it

No duh. In fact when my brother got into trouble for busting someones ribs and the cops were looking for him they all said that the "suspect" was "armed and dangerous". They weren't mistake that he had a separate weapon of any sort. They just considered his fits weapons because he'd caused such damage with one punch.

I don't think anyone here mentioned a broom or mop. The ends all screw off pretty easily. I trained with a Bo at one time and used to goof off and practice with my mom's broom or mop handles. Pissed her off when I snapped one.

Along the lines of splashing clorox ins someones face. I wonder if Ammonia would be as effective. I know it is used in chemical weapons in some form. It burns the linings of the sinus and lungs. A thought.

Lock in a sock is all I have to add on this one...

I used to carry around a penny roll. It's like ghetto brass knuckles!

people are the most creative when imagining ways of hurting other people...


anyways, R.Lee Ermy on the history channel said that nunchuku's are a product of the 20th century and never saw any real combat in battles or stuff like that. And we all know he's a cool guy so he's "gotta" be tellin the truth! =p

I cant think of any cool weapon ideas that haven't already mentioned or are already to obvious. oh i know!

how bout a nintendo controller! u could swing that thing around quite a bit. granted it might break into bits of plastic if u hit someone hard enough, but then u got jagged pointy plastic at the end of it!

If it were one of the original tough as a brick and shaped like one too nintendo controllers, I'm sure you'd have no troubles with it breaking... Mr. Miyamoto designed those things to be quite lethal, it seems o_O

I had a pencil once, but it's now in an evidence bag... seems the police don't like it when pencils end up in other peoples hands. Lol

Haha! My favorite impromptu weapon hasn't even been mentioned yet. A removeable car antenna is an awesome one. I have used this before actually and it has a whipping action that can sting like a bitch. Not to mention leave welts like you couldn't believe. Plus the fact that it's light and easy to weild for almost everyone.

Linked sausages. That's right. The big'uns. You can use them like nunchakus.

Beer mugs, barstools (Provided they aren't attached to the floor), and many other objects that are usually found in a tavern can come in quite useful if need be.

Working in fast food, why would you give a shit if someone robbed the place? I once worked in a sub shop that got robbed by a guy with a rifle. I didn't attempt to attack him with the meat slicer, nor did anyone else. We let him take the money from the register and let him be on his merry way. If you're stupid enough to risk your ass for a few bucks that doesn't even belong to you, then you might be working at that fast food for the rest of your life. As for me, if a place I'm working at gets robbed, I'll help the robbers out as much as possible. "You want fries with that?" :lol:

The spork. There is no greater weapon on earth. Half fork, half spoon, all one mean death dealing machin. 'Nuff said.

*Forwards this thread to his prison buddies*

Broomsticks, use it kind of like a bo.

Yea know....Depending on the case..... I would probably choose my hands.. I mean you can kill, stun, or just about do anything u need to with out a weapon.... i mean think 1 blow to someones adem's appel and if u hit it with enough force to crush it then...wow its over there dead of course :) i much prefer a simple effective knock to the back of the head if i wanted to get around them.. i mean nothing wrong with just knocking someone out because once they out you dont have to fight them anyway.

A nasal spray bottle with ammonia and having the nozzle just slightly enlarged. Works well to blind someone.

Hopefully this isn't a repost but i'm too damn lazy to read everyones post.

Every been hit in head with a roll of duck tape? then hit repeatedly in the head while you're on the ground, then you wake up all fucked up in pain and wrapped up like a fish in a six pack plastic wrap? YEah

Duck Tape owns, Again.

Taco Bell Tacos. While not that useful in a fight, eat to many of the damn cheap things and no one will want to be around you. Keeps everyone from being close enugh to hurt/rob you, plus if they hit you in the stomach, you can throw up on them. Hydroc. Acid! Puke on their faces or weapons. The Burning... THE BURNING! :)

I was going to say chopsticks, someone beat me to the punch.

its so clear that so many of you have never been in a real fight before

what do you mean in the terms of a "real" fight. A fight is a fight, and anything that anyone has that can give an advantage over the other is a bonus to them. If me throwing my shoe at you causes you to 'attempt' to block it, then I have just gained a significant advantage of either getting out of my bed and being able to actually defeind myself, or if I'm already up.. I will have just gained a free shot to the face, stomache, or nuts.

So tell me again how items like throwing a shoe at someone doens't help in a "real" fight.