Cigeretts are great in a fight, for just the reason you stated with the shoe Gak. Nothing like a little stick with a ball of fire on the end to distract someone while you follow it up with a kick to the balls.

Chopsticks have already been mentioned, but most would break very easily. I have a set made out of Titanium that would double as a weapon very nicely. :)

I also have a PDA stylus made out of Titanium. Has a nice sharp point.

I always wear steel toed boots, which could be useful, and I also carry a Surefire flashlight, which could be used as an impact device or a fistpack. Frequently, I wear a "riggers" belt that has a very large steel buckle that would work well when swung.

Change or large batteries in a sock is a great, discreet idea, but its really only useful on an airplane, where no one would think anything of batteries and socks in a carry-on bag.

However, in my house, I'd grab my katana or bowie. :D

yeah yeah think about throwing a shoe at me. if i am coming at you full steam, i will have hit you 5 times in the face before you even finish the thought.

Seems to me that shoe would hurt even more if you were running at full steam. It's a amazing what a well placed high heel will do to someone.

:confused:

Who suggested throwing shoes?

My brother swears by his iron bar. Just two weeks ago his girlfriends ex had a little taste of it.
I had occasion to use a beerglass once -very messy, but effective!

I suggested it as I thought about the chance of a robber opening my door... a shoe would then be the perfect distraction for me to ready myself to stand a chance.

NowThen: You gotta remember the context. If you're charging full steam, I'll just to a Pop'eye Kick to your chest. After you stand back up I'll ask you how you're feeling.

I wouldn't throw my shoe in a fight.. I'd be wearing it.. but if you tried to rob me.. I'd throw the first thing I could grab... in order to cause just enough distraction to allow myself to stand up and thus defend myself. If I were fighting, I'd let you "come at full steam" so that before you land ANYTHING on me.. You'll have a foot in your side. Please charge, I love it when people do... Its turning their full blown attack into MY full blown attack, but I'm not the one who wasted any energy.

well.. my friend and i bought books on self defence, and as it turns out, cats are quite effective self defence weapons.. i mean, when those things pull out thier claws while u whack someone in the face with it, it can really friggin hurt!^_<

Haveing had one of my friends throw his cat in my face once back in high school, I can say, yes, those claws hurt like hell. And with 10 poiunds of pissed off feline latched to you neck, you are going to be a little to busy to block any incomeing punches that are following. Hum... I think I might need to get a cat...

All a handheld weapon is is something to extend your normal swing range... thusly anything from a spatula to a car antenna to something more sturdy like a baseball bat could easily be considered a household weapon. The entire principle of a sword is simply to extend the range and ease with which you can deal damage.

Once you get some weight behind it like in a chair or a sledgehammer you can really cause some damage but you loose the finer control. This would be more like a midevil mace weapon.


As far as household weapons go... I've been a big fan of yardstick fencing in the past. Theres no way it would hold up in a serious fight though.

Hey GakFace, you ever tried to stop someone coming at "full steam" with a kick? How much do you know about physics?

He could train an elephant to do it, but i think if you had a guard elephant, not many people would consider robbing you in the first place.

Personally, i'm a fan of the glass to the face a la trainspotting, or my weight bars.

A tea cup... If any of you have seen Chronicles of Riddick(great movie) you'll know how to use it.

have you ever seen a pop'eye side kick? Maybe that just what my school called it.. but its like a half-skip side kick. You charge and I thrust forward into your chest. Sure I might fall, but not before you loose all your steam and have all the air ROUGHLY knocked outta your chest. I have pretty good balance and would quickly recover if I fell.

I mean.. it all depends how they're coming at me, but you gotta remember.. I'm not just holding my leg out saying "come and stop me".. it is a trained kick. I know enough to know that all his momentum is going to hurt him as well. As long as I aim for the diaphram<sp?> then I'll be 'squishy'/cushion-esque for me... I can't say the same for the other guy.

Heck if you want to be super picky, I'll just side step and and throw a side kick into his floating ribs.. how's that?

When was the last time you had all of the air knocked clear out of you and you were able to charge in blazing glory right after? I haven't seen it... catch your breath while I take advantage.

if that kick is even a little off, or your assailant deflects or dodges it, you are going to be in the worst position possible in a fight - on the floor.

the problem with flying kicks is that while in theory they are very powerful, and in the movies they sure look great, dont they, in real life they take a lot of energy and TIMING to execute. fighting a real foe, they are going to be able to react to your flying kick and put you in a very bad position. unless they are drunk or already beaten.

thats why in ultimate fighting, even though most of these guys have got the martial arts skills necessary to do whatever spectacular kick you want, they keep both those feet firmly on the floor. and look where the fights go very quickly, yeah you guessed it, to the floor.

you better be able to ground fight cos that is where most fights end up.

like i say, when you are a little older and have been in a real figth, come back and tell us all about it, ok?

when i'm a little older?

Hello, I never said a flying leap... I can't do them, nor do I see the point really. A pop'eye kick is like a mini-hop forword, with the leg still on the ground quite well... The other merely picks itself up as it become a side kick. My whole point with said kick was to knock them to the ground first.. I'd rather be on top that on bottom.

Why fight when I can end it before it even starts?

NowThen you keep thinking that just because I haven't been in a fight that would last multiple minutes that I'd get my ass kicked. Thank you for thinking so, because I just beat the fights before they start. You said you'd charge, and I merely said I'd turn that blow into a weapon of my own. You pointed out that they most likely end up on the floor, so I assume during your charge you'd plan on getting me on the floor right? Well guess what? My kick hits you harder than you hit me.... sure my foot felt a bit of pressure, but your arms wouldn't have reached me. Sure i might fall, and now we're on the ground.. but your initial strike has now become my initial strike. So again, I'm at a loss as to how you're winning here.

whatever dude.

i had a dream once that i used a USB mouse like a mace...

that was pretty awesome

Gakface, if I might be so bold as to ask you what your fighting experiance outside of controlled sparring is? Have you ever been in a street fight? The reason I ask is because there are no similarities between the two. In a street fight you have no idea about the other guy, what his experiance, skill, fighting style, pain tolerance, etc. are, while you know much more in controlled sparring. However, as a counter-point, I will concede that a reckless charge at an opponent is a half-assed and idiotic mistake to make. I know because I was foolish enough to do so once and it resulted in a trip to the hospital.

I still disagree that a "popeye kick" would be warrented in that situation. It is too risky, and falling to the ground is a potentially suicidal move. What if you break your ankle? Then you are fucked, while all he has to do is catch his breath. Any good fighter knows that balance is a very important factor of a fight. Anything you do to compromise balance will compromise the fight. Kicks should be short and quick, to the point, not elaborate. Jump kicks and that nonsense are for show. They are too easy to counter, there are numerous ways in which a "popeye kick" as you described it can be countered quickly and brutally.

I also find your smug attitude rather telling. Saying you would ask someone how they are feeling after you kick them in the side speaks volumes about your inflated self confidence. This of course is a by-product of your martial arts training. It is also a big pitfall. Big egos are easily hurt and when you lose your temper all that training goes out the window. I got in a fight with a cousin of mine, he is a year younger than me, and at the time he was a black belt in tae kwon do and karate. I had insulted his ego (I forget exactly what was said) and he attacked me. In seconds he was on the ground and was at my mercy. Mind you he and I are of similar heights and builds and I have had very little formal martial arts training (I achieved the rank of green belt in karate when I was ten). If he had kept his composure he might have won, but thru his training, his ego ballooned, and he believed he was superior to me. It was a rather hard lesson in humility for him, and this is why I ask if you have ever been in a real fight.

By the way, no offense was meant by this, I was merely pointing out something for you to consider, based on my life experiance.

The way I was acting was mainly because NowThen kept saying I had no say in my posts. I kinda (sadly) meant to come off as an ass. I originally was pointing off how a simple shoe could provide enough distraction to ready myself so I could have a chance to defend myself.. which that NT replied saying he would charge me. Now honestly.. when someone charges you, when do you think "I'll throw my shoe at him!" You don't... So I pointed out that if he charged, I'd do a side kick. Then I merely asked him what he'd think about that. (although I do see that it comes off in a more asshole tone than I had intended) I did NOT on the other hand say that I would ask him how he felt if I actually did kick him. Heck, doing something like that in the states would make him pull out a gun if he was carrying one. The question was merely me trying to emphasize my counter to his, nothing more. Sorry if I explained that incorrectly before.

As with your cousin, yeah.. he got angered and just wanted a beat-down without actually sizing you up.. or from what it seems.. paying attention to you. I'm a small guy.. martial arts is merely a means to defend myself as I am not big enough to actually just throw punches (yes.. I could... which could maket them inflate their ego.. what with my size and all.. but I prefer some training).

Knowing how to fight gives me self confidence, but through everything that I've learned.. its one thing to be confident in your own abilities, but its an entirely different matter to be confident that you're going to stomp the competition( AKA Over-confidence).

Fighting? Not really.. Most people dont' bother as I get along with most, and others probably think I'm not worth their time as I'm not the most muscular.. again I have few enemies... most of them don't remain that way. I do realize though that outside of training.. yeah what can the other person do. Thats the main reason why I avoid physical blows. I never know when a guy is carrying...

If in a fight... I wouldn't be doing jumping or any of that.. one knock and I'd be screwed. I'd hold my ground and do my best. I'd definately be on the defensive for a while as to best size up what they can do... and even moreso.. what they LIKE to do. I'm more of a countering kinda guy. I won't initially throw the punch.. but what the other does help me figure out how I'll return the favor.

I haven't been in an actual fight, and I don't plan to. If I do though, I'm not stupid and I've learned from outside experiences. Further still.. even your experiences being told are yet another thing lesson to be reminded of.

No offense taken, man. I see how my post came off worse than I meant. Hopefully this clears things up.

(oh yeah, for the pop'eye kick.. I think I did a poor job describing it.. but its 10:30 am and I have yet to sleep and so this definately isn't a time to attempt to explain... but its pulled off relatively quick and is more powerful than a simple side kick. It doesn't really require any more space than any other kick would)

next time you use a rolled up magazine as a weapon, don't "poke" with it, swing it instead, nothing will stop an attacker faster than a couple hundred paper cuts across the face

Hmm.. Anyone who entered my house unarmed at the moment would be in bad shape. I have within easy reach:

-Ashtray
-4 computer monitors
-5 chairs
-2 5-pound speakers
-Metal frame bookcase
-A few beer bottles
-Fork
-Metal-band watch. Putting it around your fist and punching w/ the glass crystal facing outward could do some damage.
-Bottle of rubbing alcohol to throw in eyes/open wounds

If those didn't do they trick, they'd at least buy me some time to grab my semiautomatic shotgun.

irseg,

I'd say the shotgun should do the trick!

I have a MAK90 (chinese sporter ak) with a 75 round drum next to my bed for anyone stupid enough to break in.

i like to think when im skatin around in the city my skateboard is a nice lil weapon i know my best friend was put in a coma because he got hit a few times with one in the head... really anything that is in reach is a weapon only fight i was in kid charged me and i just kicked him one right in the chest needless to say he stopped rather quickly

People tend to think they are badasses because they can think of all these wonderful things they could do to an attacker. All that goes out the window the first time you feel four fingers across your jaw.

my fingers

Keys, in a hand-to-hand situation. I've got big hands and a big key ring, and I've rehearsed what I might do if the need ever arose.

I walk around at night in an urban area, and on those rare occasions when life on the street seems a little edgy I'll unobstrusively back a four-battery steel flashlight.

If somebody ever comes at me at home, I'll just throw the cat at them -- half Siamese, half Burmese. Be interesting to see if the intruder had a face left.

I had two friends get into a fight once, and one used his keys to punch the other in the face. All this did was piss him off. Now they were both similar height, and the one with the keys was about 15-20 pounds lighter than the other. Well, they fought for a few moments, but key boy got pinned to the ground, and would have been beaten to a pulp if the neighbors hadn't broken it up. So really, keys will not help you in a fight, but they will leave nasty looking cuts.

I'd also suggest that throwing your cat at an intruder, if it's even within reach, should be a diversion while you grab a real weapon. Pissed off cat or no, it wouldn't be too difficult to knock it off/aside and keep pressing the attack. But it could buy you time.

Oh. Wow. Thank you! I bought this at a garage sale about six years ago. I had no idea! Thanks for posting that!

:D

The door from kill bill :D now that's a brutal weapon

fists break easy on contact with bone. Hands are more effective when used to choke an opponant.

How about toothpicks. Get a box of 250 for $2 at the local store. Sharp and easy to stick people with. I would also use the long, 8ft incadendescent light bulbs.

well i for one have a big tent spike in my room ... its a 2 1/2 foot long solid steel spike.



taht and my count duku lightsaber... although it needs more batterys :(

200 free AOL "200 hours free" CDs from the mall makes hell of a fight in the dorm hall :thumbsup: :crazy:

Hmm.. Frying pans are always nice as weapons, lol.
Keys can be nice self defense weapons too.

computer mouse bolo attack!

Good call Ruprex, the pen is a great thing to carry whereever, problem is that most people would't be able to stab someone. Lets hope we take the same flight. Keys work well to slash, belts work, especially with larger belt buckles (hey... this ain't a fashion thread!!) Even a hardcover book hurts like hell. You are limited only by imagination!!