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Old 05-11-2004, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Barry Bonds Is An Idiot...

regarding roger clemens contract option not to go with the astros on away games when he's not in the rotation bonds replied...

"i ain't white... they'd never let a black man do that"

or something along those lines - i heard it on espn radio but couldn't find a link...

my take on it is clemens doesn't have to go with them if he's not in the rotation - why bother - whereas bonds he's not a pitcher -he plays every damned day - so why's it become racial?

there's nothing racial about it - nolan ryan didn't go on road trips when out of the rotation and it didn't come up then - it's no wonder bonds has distanced himself from others

if i were the astros and had a choice of having clemens once in 5 days or not at all is a no brainer
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bonds just is attention hungry. He's also a jerk - meaning he like stirring things up every so often. Let him say what he wants, it's not like he's gaining any more fans.
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Old 05-11-2004, 04:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i can't believe a player can say something like that and still be on the team. I imagine if I said something to that affect at my office I would be fired (my head is not in my ass so no chances of that happening) but bonds still gets his 18 million dollar paycheck. if i own the team i sue the fucking idiot for all the money he has earned this year and for all the money i paid him before. i use to be a fan of his but him and john rocker should room together! why was rockers racist rant front page but this racist comment is ignored cuz its barry. shameful.


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Old 05-11-2004, 04:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Idiot

This was Clemans agrrement from the beginning, he didn t have to sign if he didnt want to.

And what about Bonds. he gets away eith lots of crap. you realize how many fantasy leagues have him down as "Sf outfielder" because he won t let them use hi s name without getting paid.
He s the only one who does that.
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Old 05-11-2004, 04:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Barry thinks everyone doesn't like him because he's black.

No Barry we don't like you because you're an asshole.

"You call me an asshole because I'm black"

No, I call you an asshole because you're an asshole.
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Old 05-11-2004, 05:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The quote: "I ain't white. What world are you living in? I live in reality. They'd never let a black man get away with that.''

I don't like people who don't sign the league's deal to sell their name. I know Lavaar Arrington doesn't for football, and Micheal Jordan didn't for football.

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Old 05-11-2004, 05:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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When will Clemens pitch against SF? Gotta happen sometime this year - I hope.

Paybacks are a bitch.
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Old 05-11-2004, 06:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I love Bonds.. He plays devils advocate...
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well I think maybe its personal in some way. Clemens has said that Bonds is the "biggest asshole in all of baseball". But thats because he is. And I hate when everything just HAS to be about race. He's just a flat-out dick.
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:46 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Bonds brings everything back to race, it's good his manager is not white
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Old 05-11-2004, 09:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Racism in baseball is worse than any other pro sport.

Look at Sammy when his bat shattered and they found cork in it.

Or some of the things Pedro has said.

Or Dusty Baker a season or 2 back "blacks have a hard time playing day games" or something like that.

Even Hank Aaron and Frankie Robinson say racist things and noone ever says anything.

To me when these guys start claiming racism or talking how things don't go their way and it's all whitey's fault, shows me their arrogance and a reverse racism that fuels fires.

Say what you will about Jr. but I've never heard of Kenny G saying that his decline is caused by working in a racist Cincy (which some footballers have done to the Bengals).

Jr knows it ain't about race it's about hitting a ball and playing a kid's game for millions and millions of dollars.
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Old 05-12-2004, 12:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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pan6467 your comment about Dusty Baker is so far from fact it's not even in the same ball park. Get a clue dude.


BB is a moron, but God damn that brotha can play some ball.
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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As has been pointed out by others, Bonds tries to paint himself as the victim of racial discrimination so that he doesn't have to face the fact that he is a major league asshole. This way, he can avoid personal responsibility for his actions by saying that everyone hates him because of his skin color and not because of his actions.

So while its definitely true that the media have often unfairly attacked Bonds and would certainly attack him if he were in Clemen's shoes, that has very little to do with his race and much to do with his history of being an asshole.
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I agree this guy will never win any popularity awards but is it really necessary that we use social graciousness and humility as items used when qaulifying him? He's going to probably go down as the best baseball player of all time and that's an arguable fact. His social skills or lack thereof aren't what defines him it's his bat and the game he uses it in. Let's get off Barry Bonds as a bad guy and look at him as someone who is the best player in his sport. That's it and nothing else. The guy doesn't eat kids and doewsn't kill people. Let's just turn on the tube and watch him play ball and turn down the sound to the TV.
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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When will Clemens pitch against SF? Gotta happen sometime this year - I hope.
already happened. Clemens struck him out twice!
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
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On iffy outside strikes, which Barry didn't swing at. Where's Questec when you need it?
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Well, pitchers have to go outside because Barry takes away the inside strike with his pussy body armor.
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Old 05-12-2004, 02:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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On iffy outside strikes, which Barry didn't swing at. Where's Questec when you need it?
Obviously, if Barry doesn't swing at it, the pitch is a ball. Barry is given his own special strike zone. Other players have to work with a larger strike zone.
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
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pan6467 your comment about Dusty Baker is so far from fact it's not even in the same ball park. Get a clue dude.


BB is a moron, but God damn that brotha can play some ball.

Sorry if I offended. What was Dusty's quote, it was racist I do remember that.
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:12 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The Giants let Barry do pretty much whatever he wants. Play when he wants to play...etc.

Saying this is laughable. This mans out of touch with reality and seeing the world as it was 30 years ago, not as it is now.

He's also an asshole.
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Old 05-17-2004, 05:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Whatever the subjective thought process is on his personality or lack thereof, objectively he will go down as one of the top three players EVER.

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Old 05-17-2004, 10:16 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Whatever the subjective though process is on his personality or lack thereof, objectively he will go down as one of the top three players EVER.
This is likely true.

Stats are remembered, personalities, not as much. Especially as time goes on.
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