djtestudo

The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is that the Republicans have learned to grow their base and use that to win election, while the Democrats still try to reach to everyone, which unless you are so moderate you crap vanilla ice cream is a doomed stratagy.

At least that is how I see it.

I'm not saying it is a GOOD strategy, but it seems to be a WORKING stratagy.

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host

Yeah....it's good....for them....but it's killing our "country's future".
It's a contract on America:
God, gays, guns, greed, treason...
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=109633

mixedmedia

This is true. Although, I guess because I know some sane Republicans (really!), I can see how Karl Rove's seduction of the fundamentalist nutjob segment has become a real thorn in their side (ie, an embarrassment). It happens to be my belief that very few members, and perhaps none, of the Bush Administration share the beliefs of this shrieking radical constituency they so readily adopted for their votes (with the exception of the long-gone Mr. John Ashcroft). It's always been my contention that the ultra-religious right were had, because what we have in power in Washington are neo-conservatives, and neo-conservatives are not historically prone to social conservatism. I take comfort in the fact that these prophecy junkies are now being largely ignored (and occasionally denied) by "their" government. Watching them strut around after the gay marriage ballots and 2004 election as if they were sitting in the White House themselves was very depressing. (note: I was living in a very small, very religious, very conservative small southern town in 2004...I have issues related to post-election trauma )

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Intense1

Oh, ho ho ho, after the events of today and yesterday - YES!!! Bring on John Kerry in '08!!!

Can't wait to see how many times he can stick his foot in his mouth.

Love how he has tried to insinuate himself into the national debate....

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Paq

....while kerry is not my fave for the election...

i gotta say
he made his point

he was, pretty obviously, referring to bush and not the troops

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Intense1

Yes, Paq, but he didn't state that in his original speech, did he?

As a matter of fact, when I first heard it, I was offended for our troups, and I'd even heard the pundits first.

He's going to give Repubs some mileage in this last week, and he didn't even mean to. Plus, he really wasn't so presidential in his denial, I don't think.

But let the games begin, huh?

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Paq

i think this goes under:
"you're gonna hear what you want to hear" from this quote. He didn't clarify and he made a broad statement, but it is pretty obvious to whom he was speaking..

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NCB

Yeah, it ws obvious. He was taking a shot at the troops.

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dc_dux

At the very least, Kerry should stop trying to tell jokes.

It was obvious to me that the Repub response was just another example of turning criticism of the Iraq war policymakers into a criticism of the men and women fighting the war.

But regardless of how you interpret the remarks, what it has done, with the subsequent back and forth comments, is raise a discussion of the Iraq war again as the top news story and it seems to me that this is the last thing Repubs would want discussed in this last week before the election.

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ratbastid

You've got to hear the absurdity of that. A senior senator, a decorated soldier no less, is anti-troops!? Come on.

His statement was a Rorschach blot. If it's politically expedient for you to hear it as anti-troop, you'll hear it as anti-troop.

florida0214

After what Kerry said about the troops in Iraq, Whether he meant it or not, he has no chance of getting the dems behind him. I am strcit republican but if Barak obama ran i would vote for him in a heartbeat. I hope he runs. I hope he wins. I think this country would be much better of with him.

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NCB

Well, this is the same decorated soldier that has voted to cut the defense budget and voted to not fund (after he voted for it of course) the same war he voted to start. Sorry, it goes in line of exactly what conservatives have been saying about liberals: The dont like the military.

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dc_dux

The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America did an analysis of voting records on over 100 bills in the last 5 years affecting the active military, vets and families, including the annual defense approp bills, emergency spending for the war, veterans health benefits, cost of living increases for vets..... :

http://capwiz.com/iava/keyvotes.xc/?lvl=C

Kerry was graded with a B, your two repub Senators got an D and F. In fact, dems as a whole voted more favorable for these 100+ bills then repubs.

"What conservatives have been saying about liberals" is just another one of those myths.

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cj2112

The biggest problem w/ Kerry, and the reason I did not vote for him, was I couldn't predict what he was going to do. I heard him several times say that he had a plan, but I never heard him say what that plan was. This is not to say that he didn't have one, or that he never said what it was, just that his party didn't do a very good job of getting that out to the public.This IMO is why the Dems lost. If the Dems truly desire the White House in '08, they MUST run a better campaign than the "at least were not the Republicans".

jcookc6

Mitt Romney has a better chance of winning from Massachusetts than the "War Hero" does.

ratbastid

Do you even read what you write anymore?