12-20-2005, 09:53 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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The Chappelle Theory
Have people seen this yet? Here's the link: http://www.chappelletheory.com/index.html
It details why Chappelle's Show didn't finish it's third season and implicates Bill Cosby and Oprah, among others, in the harrasment of Chappelle to get him to quit his show. I don't know what to make of it. And I didn't think I could hate Oprah anymore than I already do.... |
12-20-2005, 10:40 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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This really should be moved to Paranoia until it can be further proved correct.
My take on is that Chappelle is suffering from the same thing that the guy in A Beautiful Mind is suffering and that one day, someone will take this story and make film about it.
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12-20-2005, 10:47 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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Far fetched, or a draft sketch?
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12-20-2005, 11:02 AM | #5 (permalink) | |
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12-20-2005, 11:03 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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Interesting. A nice little conspiracy. The first thing I recalled reading this was in the movie "RAW" (Eddie Murphy's stand-up concert movie) he talked about how Cosby called him.
There is probably truth that the people mentioned in the article were indeed upset with his act, however some of the details sounded overly paranoidal. And in the intro the writer says he wasn't writing for Chappelle, yet he knew some very initmate details. I find there maybe some truth in it, but overall I have a great inclination to believe this is pure fiction. People love a great conspiracy story and this would explain Chappelle's breakup. You need look no further than when Whoopie started out doing her onstage routines playing a crackhead, or "In Living Color" where Wayans decimated everyone listed on that list and had a far bigger audience when doing it. I always thought Chappelle's show was a modern take of "In Living Color" and less superior. On the other hand it could be the people who took down Dave, are holding "In Living Color"'s syndi rights and preventing it from being played anywhere it would get seen again. This has picqued my interest, though.
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12-20-2005, 11:24 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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I agree this would be a fun one for Paranoia, otherwise
<TT>Over the last two years, they had watched warily as Chappelle's Show had become Comedy Central's premiere show, eclipsing even South Park and The Daily Show in terms of buzz.</tt> Erm... no. Chapelle got some buzz, but eclipse the Daily Show? If the webmaster wants to use planetary jingo, The Daily Show would be Jupiter and Chapelle would be Io. Furthermore, BET's Robert Johnson acting as an arbiter of taste among the Black community is laughable. Let's see, he fired Tavis Smiley so he could replace an hour of issues on BET with more "booty-shaking music videos!" -Huey, Boondocks
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12-20-2005, 11:34 AM | #9 (permalink) | |
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I'd like Chappelle to give a statement on it, if it ever catches enough attention (if he didn't contribute to writing it, that is). |
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12-20-2005, 11:41 AM | #10 (permalink) |
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Thought maybe the owner could be found but all that turned up for that site was this:
Domain Name: CHAPPELLETHEORY.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS.WEBLINC.COM Name Server: NS2.WEBLINC.COM Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Updated Date: 16-dec-2005 Creation Date: 06-oct-2005 Expiration Date: 06-oct-2006 And this: Registrant: WebLinc, LLC 340 North 12th Street Suite 200 Philadelphia, PA 19107 US Domain Name: CHAPPELLETHEORY.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: WebLinc, LLC dns@weblinc.com 340 North 12th Street Suite 200 Philadelphia, PA 19107 US 215-925-1800 fax: 215-925-1999 Record expires on 06-Oct-2006. Record created on 06-Oct-2005. Database last updated on 20-Dec-2005 14:44:40 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS.WEBLINC.COM 216.158.33.194 NS2.WEBLINC.COM 216.183.124.116 So at least it was probably NOT Chappelle writing that
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12-20-2005, 11:51 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
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nvm you beat me to the phone and address |
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12-20-2005, 12:00 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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aah the beauty of private DNS listings
moved to paranoia
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12-21-2005, 01:23 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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No it was Bill Cosby. He came to Cynthetiq in his offices at MTV and put the squeeze on him.
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12-21-2005, 02:21 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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With Farrakhan's henchmen, no doubt.
The DNS listing doesn't prove that Chapelle didn't write it, it only proves that he isn't the only one who could've. Obfuscating DNS listings is easy as all get out. All the same (and even though I've always suspected that Oprah is really a heartless, evil bitch), I'm skeptical. Seems to me like it's more likely that Chappelle's success was actually getting to him. And all of these anonymous sources cause even more doubt, for me. I'm left wondering how it is that the author of this piece knew just who to talk to in order to find out all of these intimate details and that he just happened to track down folks who were sitting next to Chapelle and his dad in the restaurant, who saw the 'Black Crusaders' entering and leaving hotels, etc.
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12-21-2005, 04:37 PM | #16 (permalink) | |
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Did anyone bother to read the disclaimer:
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maybe they are saying the conspirators got to them and made them SAY it was a satire! |
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12-23-2005, 06:26 AM | #18 (permalink) | |
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Bastards.
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12-23-2005, 07:24 PM | #19 (permalink) |
Oh shit it's Wayne Brady!
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I heard that Chappelle had something writ into his contract that no matter if he does the show or not, he gets paid; no questions asked. If this is true, then I assume Chappelle just got his, and laughed his ass off all the way to the bank.
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12-30-2005, 04:54 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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a really good theory. I do like paranoia. I sure hope it's as far fetched as it sounds.
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12-30-2005, 05:53 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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02-01-2006, 07:50 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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Is it even possible to pump a signal into a single household like the theory claims Oprah did to Dave?
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02-02-2006, 04:01 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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I spent a lot of time reading this last night. I never found the quoted disclaimer. In any case.. good story. Fortunately I'm not in a position to care.
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02-13-2006, 07:55 AM | #26 (permalink) |
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Dave Chappelle was on "Inside the Actor's Studio" last night and pretty much dispelled any of these theories. He quit because he's burnt out on fame and wanted some time off. (My words) Well anyways here's a link with some video:
http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Ac...ppelle_2.shtml |
02-14-2006, 10:00 AM | #29 (permalink) | |
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02-14-2006, 12:20 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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Every entertainer including actors, muscians, comedians have a certain amount of responsibility to the general public as well as their close followers. You don't just see muscians going out there and making songs telling kids to go murder everyone in site. (Just an example of responsiblity in entertainment.) Does Chapelle take any responsibility in the community to further racial relations for the positive? Not at all. He exploits the negatives of pretty much every facid of race and makes his "skits" into a common household persona that is relatively easy for impressionable minds to mimic and believe what they are saying is ok.
For every step forward that responsible citizens and leaders in the movement of racial integrated are making, chapelle is single handedly taking them 2 steps back. People have worked way too hard towards racial equality to have some fool like chapelle turn it around, or at the least, slow down progress, all just for ratings for his show and money in his pocket. That my friend is irresponsible. |
02-14-2006, 12:29 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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Ah, so you obviously didn't see him on Inside the Actor's Studio. Because you're dead wrong about his motives. Otherwise he would have never left for Africa and walked away from all that money. For every genius out there is someone who doesn't understand it.
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02-14-2006, 12:53 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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It looks like Oprah got to ZeRoGRaViTY, too...
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02-14-2006, 12:58 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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Coppertop my good friend. If you believe everything you see on television and especially what everyone says on tv then *sigh.
I did see inside the Actor's studio with chapelle. He did make himself sound like a decent forward progressing person who doesn't just care about money. Unfortunatly, he cannot take back the negative influence he has already set upon the viewing public. That is what I am talking about. One cannot just go and do wrong, then 4 years later come on one scripted interview and answer every question positively to save face against critics. The damage is already done. Do you think that the 12 year olds that have already watch his show and are already corrupted in one way or another from the skits watch the Actor's studio to see his half ass excuses? He may be a comic genious. It does take some smarts to get a cable tv show to offer you 50 million dollars for 2 seasons worth of work. Sure, but does that make what he is doing responsible in bettering a society all in all? He doesn't even have to be responsible for bettering society. JUST STOP HURTING IT! I'm sorry, I just have higher standards for whom I consider a genious. Not just a genious in the sense of How-to make ones bank account deeper. |
02-14-2006, 01:59 PM | #36 (permalink) | |
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If you seriously think his show is BAD for race relations, I want you to back that up with something- because I don't buy it for a second. If you want, go start a thread somewhere. You don't think it helps break down some walls of misconceptions, help introduce laughter in a way that eases odd situations? I think it uses satire to help everyone laugh about what they're so hung up on, and can help people understand the absurdities of racial bigotry... because we're all funny in our ways, and what makes us different is exactly what makes us all great. We don't want everyone in the world to be the same, that'd be boring as hell. |
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02-14-2006, 02:11 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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This coming from the guy who says parents are responsible for children & their gaming habits? (from here) I am sorry man, you cannot have it both ways. By your own argument in the other thread, the parents of a 12 years old child (in your scenario) should be responsible for letting them be influenced by Chappelle in such a manner. Chappelle is not at fault, just as you argue video games are not. |
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Again, I never said chapelle was 100 percent at fault and is the sole influence on our culture and society. He just doesn't help the situation. But, I do see where someone saying "I'm Rick James Bitch" about 15 times in a 4 minute skit could be hilarious and that individual could be considered a genious. *sigh* Last edited by ZeRoGRaViTY; 02-14-2006 at 04:13 PM.. |
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