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sadatx 12-20-2005 09:53 AM

The Chappelle Theory
 
Have people seen this yet? Here's the link: http://www.chappelletheory.com/index.html

It details why Chappelle's Show didn't finish it's third season and implicates Bill Cosby and Oprah, among others, in the harrasment of Chappelle to get him to quit his show.

I don't know what to make of it. And I didn't think I could hate Oprah anymore than I already do....

Charlatan 12-20-2005 10:40 AM

This really should be moved to Paranoia until it can be further proved correct.

My take on is that Chappelle is suffering from the same thing that the guy in A Beautiful Mind is suffering and that one day, someone will take this story and make film about it.

filtherton 12-20-2005 10:45 AM

Wow. That's pretty far fetched. Al Sharpton stealthing into dave chappelle's house in the middle of the night and having his picture taken above chappelle's sleeping children? Seems like its probably bullshit.

cyrnel 12-20-2005 10:47 AM

Far fetched, or a draft sketch?

Charlatan 12-20-2005 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filtherton
Wow. That's pretty far fetched. Al Sharpton stealthing into dave chappelle's house in the middle of the night and having his picture taken above chappelle's sleeping children? Seems like its probably bullshit.

That and Oprah waking him at night were the best parts of this story.


"I'm Oprah Winfrey bitch!"

pan6467 12-20-2005 11:03 AM

Interesting. A nice little conspiracy. The first thing I recalled reading this was in the movie "RAW" (Eddie Murphy's stand-up concert movie) he talked about how Cosby called him.

There is probably truth that the people mentioned in the article were indeed upset with his act, however some of the details sounded overly paranoidal. And in the intro the writer says he wasn't writing for Chappelle, yet he knew some very initmate details.

I find there maybe some truth in it, but overall I have a great inclination to believe this is pure fiction. People love a great conspiracy story and this would explain Chappelle's breakup.

You need look no further than when Whoopie started out doing her onstage routines playing a crackhead, or "In Living Color" where Wayans decimated everyone listed on that list and had a far bigger audience when doing it.

I always thought Chappelle's show was a modern take of "In Living Color" and less superior.

On the other hand it could be the people who took down Dave, are holding "In Living Color"'s syndi rights and preventing it from being played anywhere it would get seen again.

This has picqued my interest, though.

Coppertop 12-20-2005 11:05 AM

Definitely a sketch in the making.

Poppinjay 12-20-2005 11:24 AM

I agree this would be a fun one for Paranoia, otherwise

<TT>Over the last two years, they had watched warily as Chappelle's Show had become Comedy Central's premiere show, eclipsing even South Park and The Daily Show in terms of buzz.</tt>

Erm... no. Chapelle got some buzz, but eclipse the Daily Show? If the webmaster wants to use planetary jingo, The Daily Show would be Jupiter and Chapelle would be Io.

Furthermore, BET's Robert Johnson acting as an arbiter of taste among the Black community is laughable. Let's see, he fired Tavis Smiley so he could replace an hour of issues on BET with more "booty-shaking music videos!" -Huey, Boondocks

sadatx 12-20-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan
This really should be moved to Paranoia until it can be further proved correct.

Well, "Paranoia"..., "Entertainment"..., could be either so I posted it here. I think the general feeling around the web so far is that it is a marketing campaign for season 3, or at least what they have of season 3.

I'd like Chappelle to give a statement on it, if it ever catches enough attention (if he didn't contribute to writing it, that is).

ngdawg 12-20-2005 11:41 AM

Thought maybe the owner could be found but all that turned up for that site was this:
Domain Name: CHAPPELLETHEORY.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS.WEBLINC.COM
Name Server: NS2.WEBLINC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 16-dec-2005
Creation Date: 06-oct-2005
Expiration Date: 06-oct-2006
And this:
Registrant:
WebLinc, LLC
340 North 12th Street
Suite 200
Philadelphia, PA 19107
US

Domain Name: CHAPPELLETHEORY.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
WebLinc, LLC dns@weblinc.com
340 North 12th Street
Suite 200
Philadelphia, PA 19107
US
215-925-1800 fax: 215-925-1999

Record expires on 06-Oct-2006.
Record created on 06-Oct-2005.
Database last updated on 20-Dec-2005 14:44:40 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.WEBLINC.COM 216.158.33.194
NS2.WEBLINC.COM 216.183.124.116

So at least it was probably NOT Chappelle writing that

Glory's Sun 12-20-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg
Thought maybe the owner could be found but all that turned up for that site was this:
Domain Name: CHAPPELLETHEORY.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS.WEBLINC.COM
Name Server: NS2.WEBLINC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 16-dec-2005
Creation Date: 06-oct-2005
Expiration Date: 06-oct-2006
And this:
Registrant:
WebLinc, LLC
340 North 12th Street
Suite 200
Philadelphia, PA 19107
US

Domain Name: CHAPPELLETHEORY.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
WebLinc, LLC dns@weblinc.com
340 North 12th Street
Suite 200
Philadelphia, PA 19107
US
215-925-1800 fax: 215-925-1999

Record expires on 06-Oct-2006.
Record created on 06-Oct-2005.
Database last updated on 20-Dec-2005 14:44:40 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.WEBLINC.COM 216.158.33.194
NS2.WEBLINC.COM 216.183.124.116

So at least it was probably NOT Chappelle writing that


nvm you beat me to the phone and address

Cynthetiq 12-20-2005 12:00 PM

aah the beauty of private DNS listings :)

moved to paranoia

sadatx 12-21-2005 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
moved to paranoia

Ahhh man, now noone's going to see this. Oprah told you to do this didn't she :)

Charlatan 12-21-2005 01:23 PM

No it was Bill Cosby. He came to Cynthetiq in his offices at MTV and put the squeeze on him.

Martian 12-21-2005 02:21 PM

With Farrakhan's henchmen, no doubt.

The DNS listing doesn't prove that Chapelle didn't write it, it only proves that he isn't the only one who could've. Obfuscating DNS listings is easy as all get out.

All the same (and even though I've always suspected that Oprah is really a heartless, evil bitch), I'm skeptical. Seems to me like it's more likely that Chappelle's success was actually getting to him. And all of these anonymous sources cause even more doubt, for me. I'm left wondering how it is that the author of this piece knew just who to talk to in order to find out all of these intimate details and that he just happened to track down folks who were sitting next to Chapelle and his dad in the restaurant, who saw the 'Black Crusaders' entering and leaving hotels, etc.

RunRunRabbit 12-21-2005 04:37 PM

Did anyone bother to read the disclaimer:

Quote:

Stating the obvious.

We'd like to thank the bulk of you for not thinking, it makes the satire and parody that much easier. We've been pretty proud of the results so far.

The lawyers have asked that the following disclaimer be placed on this site. It seems that whether they're organized or not, there's some fear that 'they' may look this way.

Absolutely none of the information on this site has been verified to be true and, if you haven't been able to tell, it isn't affiliated with any of the people or companies mentioned on this site. We, however, do truly love Bill Cosby, but, again the lawyers request that we tell you that doesn't mean that he had anything to do with this.

Anti-Social.com - making the information super highway unsafe for idiots since 1997. Back with a vengeance, Spring 2006.
inquiries-ctheory@anti-social.com
Now - they could be saying it's a satire or....

maybe they are saying the conspirators got to them and made them SAY it was a satire! :eek:

sadatx 12-23-2005 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunRunRabbit
maybe they are saying the conspirators got to them and made them SAY it was a satire! :eek:

Ha! Either way I like it. Good story. It would make a good movie.

Charlatan 12-23-2005 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunRunRabbit
Now - they could be saying it's a satire or....

maybe they are saying the conspirators got to them and made them SAY it was a satire! :eek:

I bet Bill Cosby and Oprah paid for this site... disinformation and all that.

Bastards.

CityOfAngels 12-23-2005 07:24 PM

I heard that Chappelle had something writ into his contract that no matter if he does the show or not, he gets paid; no questions asked. If this is true, then I assume Chappelle just got his, and laughed his ass off all the way to the bank.

Manuel Hong 12-30-2005 04:54 PM

a really good theory. I do like paranoia. I sure hope it's as far fetched as it sounds.

Sweetpea 12-30-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan
No it was Bill Cosby. He came to Cynthetiq in his offices at MTV and put the squeeze on him.


:lol: :lol:


sweetpea

shadowfiend 01-11-2006 10:31 AM

Yeah, can't wait for the movie to come out. I'm looking forward to it.

Bauh4us 02-01-2006 07:50 PM

Is it even possible to pump a signal into a single household like the theory claims Oprah did to Dave?

Halx 02-02-2006 04:01 PM

I spent a lot of time reading this last night. I never found the quoted disclaimer. In any case.. good story. Fortunately I'm not in a position to care.

wolf 02-04-2006 08:24 AM

The laywers in question were Bill Cosby and Oprah's.

Astrocloud 02-13-2006 07:55 AM

Dave Chappelle was on "Inside the Actor's Studio" last night and pretty much dispelled any of these theories. He quit because he's burnt out on fame and wanted some time off. (My words) Well anyways here's a link with some video:

http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Ac...ppelle_2.shtml

ZeRoGRaViTY 02-13-2006 12:05 PM

Again, who cares if it is a draft, theory, truth, whatever. The end result. He is FINALLY off the air. Worthless, irresponsible entertainer.

tecoyah 02-13-2006 04:38 PM

Saw his show one time....and never was inclined to see it again

Coppertop 02-14-2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrocloud
Dave Chappelle was on "Inside the Actor's Studio" last night and pretty much dispelled any of these theories. He quit because he's burnt out on fame and wanted some time off. (My words) Well anyways here's a link with some video:

http://www.bravotv.com/Inside_the_Ac...ppelle_2.shtml

Easily the best Inside the Actor's Studio I have ever seen. Chappelle has truly been given the torch by Pryor.

Coppertop 02-14-2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeRoGRaViTY
Again, who cares if it is a draft, theory, truth, whatever. The end result. He is FINALLY off the air. Worthless, irresponsible entertainer.

How exactly is Chappelle irresponsible?

ZeRoGRaViTY 02-14-2006 12:20 PM

Every entertainer including actors, muscians, comedians have a certain amount of responsibility to the general public as well as their close followers. You don't just see muscians going out there and making songs telling kids to go murder everyone in site. (Just an example of responsiblity in entertainment.) Does Chapelle take any responsibility in the community to further racial relations for the positive? Not at all. He exploits the negatives of pretty much every facid of race and makes his "skits" into a common household persona that is relatively easy for impressionable minds to mimic and believe what they are saying is ok.

For every step forward that responsible citizens and leaders in the movement of racial integrated are making, chapelle is single handedly taking them 2 steps back. People have worked way too hard towards racial equality to have some fool like chapelle turn it around, or at the least, slow down progress, all just for ratings for his show and money in his pocket.

That my friend is irresponsible.

Coppertop 02-14-2006 12:29 PM

Ah, so you obviously didn't see him on Inside the Actor's Studio. Because you're dead wrong about his motives. Otherwise he would have never left for Africa and walked away from all that money. For every genius out there is someone who doesn't understand it.

Martian 02-14-2006 12:53 PM

It looks like Oprah got to ZeRoGRaViTY, too...

ZeRoGRaViTY 02-14-2006 12:58 PM

Coppertop my good friend. If you believe everything you see on television and especially what everyone says on tv then *sigh.

I did see inside the Actor's studio with chapelle. He did make himself sound like a decent forward progressing person who doesn't just care about money. Unfortunatly, he cannot take back the negative influence he has already set upon the viewing public. That is what I am talking about. One cannot just go and do wrong, then 4 years later come on one scripted interview and answer every question positively to save face against critics. The damage is already done. Do you think that the 12 year olds that have already watch his show and are already corrupted in one way or another from the skits watch the Actor's studio to see his half ass excuses?

He may be a comic genious. It does take some smarts to get a cable tv show to offer you 50 million dollars for 2 seasons worth of work. Sure, but does that make what he is doing responsible in bettering a society all in all? He doesn't even have to be responsible for bettering society. JUST STOP HURTING IT! I'm sorry, I just have higher standards for whom I consider a genious. Not just a genious in the sense of How-to make ones bank account deeper.

Astrocloud 02-14-2006 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeRoGRaViTY
...He did make himself sound like a decent forward progressing person who doesn't just care about money...

Actually he sounded like someone who had already made his money and didn't have to make any more...

analog 02-14-2006 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeRoGRaViTY
Every entertainer including actors, muscians, comedians have a certain amount of responsibility to the general public as well as their close followers. You don't just see muscians going out there and making songs telling kids to go murder everyone in site. (Just an example of responsiblity in entertainment.) Does Chapelle take any responsibility in the community to further racial relations for the positive? Not at all. He exploits the negatives of pretty much every facid of race and makes his "skits" into a common household persona that is relatively easy for impressionable minds to mimic and believe what they are saying is ok.

For every step forward that responsible citizens and leaders in the movement of racial integrated are making, chapelle is single handedly taking them 2 steps back. People have worked way too hard towards racial equality to have some fool like chapelle turn it around, or at the least, slow down progress, all just for ratings for his show and money in his pocket.

That my friend is irresponsible.

Hahahahahahahahaha this made me laugh so much. Entertainment being responsible? Are you kidding me? Have you been to the movies recently? Do you actually watch television? Ever tune in a radio? There are few pieces of "entertainment" that exhibit any kind of real "responsibility" to those who watch and interact with them. Chapelle is FAR from the only person doing it, and even farther from being the worst offender.

If you seriously think his show is BAD for race relations, I want you to back that up with something- because I don't buy it for a second. If you want, go start a thread somewhere. You don't think it helps break down some walls of misconceptions, help introduce laughter in a way that eases odd situations? I think it uses satire to help everyone laugh about what they're so hung up on, and can help people understand the absurdities of racial bigotry... because we're all funny in our ways, and what makes us different is exactly what makes us all great. We don't want everyone in the world to be the same, that'd be boring as hell.

Coppertop 02-14-2006 02:11 PM

@ zero:

This coming from the guy who says parents are responsible for children & their gaming habits? (from here)

I am sorry man, you cannot have it both ways. By your own argument in the other thread, the parents of a 12 years old child (in your scenario) should be responsible for letting them be influenced by Chappelle in such a manner. Chappelle is not at fault, just as you argue video games are not.

analog 02-14-2006 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppertop
@ zero:

This coming from the guy who says parents are responsible for children & their gaming habits? (from here)

I am sorry man, you cannot have it both ways. By your own argument in the other thread, the parents of a 12 years old child (in your scenario) should be responsible for letting them be influenced by Chappelle in such a manner. Chappelle is not at fault, just as you argue video games are not.

Thank you very much, Coppertop. I believe zero's argument has been put in its place now.

ZeRoGRaViTY 02-14-2006 03:35 PM

[QUOTE]Chapelle is FAR from the only person doing it, and even farther from being the worst offender.

ZeRoGRaViTY 02-14-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Chapelle is FAR from the only person doing it, and even farther from being the worst offender.
Understood that chapelle is not the only person doing it. Just because others do it too that makes it right? Also please quote me where I said he was the WORST offender. Not that him being the worst or most mild makes any kind of difference.

Quote:

If you seriously think his show is BAD for race relations, I want you to back that up with something- because I don't buy it for a second. If you want, go start a thread somewhere. You don't think it helps break down some walls of misconceptions, help introduce laughter in a way that eases odd situations? I think it uses satire to help everyone laugh about what they're so hung up on, and can help people understand the absurdities of racial bigotry... because we're all funny in our ways, and what makes us different is exactly what makes us all great. We don't want everyone in the world to be the same, that'd be boring as hell.
Break down walls of misconceptions? LoL His show creates more misconceptions about different walks of lifes than anything. (I won't go into that but I will start a thread on examples if someone else is interested.) Last part about everyone being the same would be boring...Agreed. Just not seeing the connection to what ANY of my arguements were.

Quote:

This coming from the guy who says parents are responsible for children & their gaming habits?
..Umm, last I thought, parents are responsible for their children. And if they believed that a game promoted violence within their child, then just simply do not allow them to play it.

Quote:

I am sorry man, you cannot have it both ways. By your own argument in the other thread, the parents of a 12 years old child (in your scenario) should be responsible for letting them be influenced by Chappelle in such a manner. Chappelle is not at fault, just as you argue video games are not.
I'm sorry I just believe that a show of the caliber of chapelle's, being placed directly after a cartoon on a station called Comedy Central, that is very popular amongst teens and younger kids has a significant amount of more influence and impact towards a childs manner and attitude than a game where you shoot aliens by sneaking up on them and getting a H/S.

Again, I never said chapelle was 100 percent at fault and is the sole influence on our culture and society. He just doesn't help the situation.

But, I do see where someone saying "I'm Rick James Bitch" about 15 times in a 4 minute skit could be hilarious and that individual could be considered a genious. *sigh*


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