Boco, save all the money you'd spend on those accessories and plan for a b16c swap. The GSR engine would really get you running. You can definately get it done for around 2000 bucks.

Find a nice aftermarket turbo, run 12's all day.

Who needs a nice looking interior and exterior when you can wipe the silly smirk off the mustang driver next to you?

First off, thats the comment i was referring to when talking about "modded" cars and not being unique. You never said it was, and i was reffering to him.

Second, you sound a little insecure about your "manliness" like your trying to prove to all of us that you are. You are insecure about your self and have to brag to all of us about how much better you think you are.

And thridly, REAL men do what they enjoy. You seem to think you hafta be all the steriotypes to be a man. i like sportfishing, does that mean im not a *real* man because i dont make ALL of my own poles? I like hunting, does that mean im not a *real* man because i buy my gun pre-made? And i hate plumbing. So i pay some other sucker good money to do it for me (when i can). so suddenly im not a *real* man because i can decide to not do something i dont enjoy? Dont tell me what a real man is all about, especially if your simply mouthing off steriotypes.


Lol, sadly thats too easy to do. i spank most of em in my old jeep...

Not when BoCo specifically said the words stock mustang.

With all the time Boco's spent on here insulting people, he could have fitted his wheels and LED wiper lights. When's the next progress report?

The wheels are already on his car, and I think they look great. Plus he just got his seats yesterday.

CLICKY

He's not insulting people any more than they are him. So everyone chill the fuck out. If you don't have anything good to say the shut up. That means everyone. There's been enough bullshit going on in this thread and it's time for it to stop.

raiding the accessories aisle in the peb boys huh?

"My blue windshield wiper squirters are really lasers!!"

I spray fast, cause I drive fast........

USDM GSR motors are B18C1, they do turbo well though.

There are about 50 things in this thread that make you sound like an idiot. I will pick this one.

What part of the spoiler on THIS car is not for looks? Is a spoiler on the back of the car somehow going to produce more downforce on your front wheel giving your more traction? I've never understood the aerodynamics of wings on a front-wheel drive car.

Well here's a lil' lesson fer ya:

As you're driving, air is moving all around the car (obviously). The air going over the car has further to travel, and loses speed in the process. At the same time, the air underneath the car maintains a higher pressure since it has less distance to travel. This is the same aerodynamic principle behind making airplanes fly. On top of this, the air unserneath the car begins to create upwards pressure as it exits at the rear (venturi (sp?) effect), thus pushing the car up even more, and making the rear tires lose grip. When you add a spoiler, it somewhat counters the rear lift and helps keep the rear tires glued to the road.

In short, you need grip at the rear wheels to keep the car stuck to the road. This isn't about drive-wheel grip for launching at a red light.

My guess is, that that spoiler wont make a bit of a difference until somewhere around, 120 mph?

And Basically no spoiler is agressive enough to make a bit of a difference launching from a light. Even the NHRA top fuel drag guys dont make a difference at teh launch, and theirs are huge.

And i can garauntee you that your honda wasn't manufactured requiring a spioler to create enough downforce to keep traction at freeway speeds, or even higher. No manufactorer is going to create a car, especially if they are as popular with the tuner crowd as Honda, and make it prone to lifting and flipping. Plus if it did misteriously have the rear wheel come undone from the road, your power, steering and weight are all in teh front, so it wouldn't be too big of a problem.

Now, if you hadn't claimed it was for performance reasons, that'd be one thing. I could understand a spoiler for other reasons though, and im even considering getting one for the van. They DO help disrupt the airflow over the back of the car. They can disrupt and move the air coming up from the road to further back from the car, and thus road chips and debris doesn't fly back up into the back of the car as easily, and it will help save the body and paint on the back of the car. Thats basically all most spoilers are ever good for.....if that.

The spoiler I want is for looks only. If it adds any downforce, then that's cool, but I want it for cosmetic reasons because I don't really like the short one I currently have. Got it?

Car looks pretty damn good BoCo. I like the rims you chose -- simple is better IMO.

I seriously doubt that that car will ever go fast enough for yuo to be able to notice any aerodynamic issues.

I think you need a wing, though. Make it a triple decker. Those look the best.

Amen

What part of CALM THE FUCK DOWN AND STOP WITH THE INSULTS don't you understand? This is everyone's last warning.

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What part of the spoiler on THIS car is not for looks? Is a spoiler on the back of the car somehow going to produce more downforce on your front wheel giving your more traction? I've never understood the aerodynamics of wings on a front-wheel drive car.

Wings are mostly for looks on FWD cars, but at high speeds, they are necessary to prevent severe understeer due to loss of rear-wheel traction that can (usually on a track) leave you to fly into a wall and burn. On street-only cars, kits tend to look incomplete without at least a small wing.

Near sub 6 seconds is slow? It's not Corvette territory, but pumping 240 horses out of four cylinders without forced air is pretty impressive.

--EDIT-- Looking back, I didn't see the third page, and thus, my above post is horribly outdated in terms of this thread. Move along, nothing to see. :) --EDIT--

Mr Selfdestruct, I think you mean oversteer.