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Hain · 02-28-2005, 12:21 PM

The only reason its dashed out is because the school server blocks pages with swears... damn them. Still, I really love movies that truly mess with your mind. Stuff like Donnie Darko, Identity, The Cell, Memento. What are some other really excellent movies that screw with your head at the end.

"It's absurd.
The search for God is absurd?
It is if everyone dies alone.
Does that scare you?
I don't want to be alone."

EDIT: If you shake your head in absolute amazement while or after seeing a movie, it's a mind fuck!

retsuki03 · 02-28-2005, 12:25 PM

How about the Usual Suspects? I'm not sure if that qualifies, but at the end I was surprised- and that made the movie.

Charlatan · 02-28-2005, 01:44 PM

Jacob's Ladder, Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession and (for some) The Crying Game,

the_marq · 02-28-2005, 01:52 PM

I think there is a sigificant difference between movies that fuck with one's perception of reality:

IE: Donnie Darko, Identity, The Cell, Memento

...and those that simply have a surprise twist at the end:

IE: The Sixth Sense, Usual Suspects, The Crying Game

Those in the frist group are more "systemically" twisted in that the whole fabric of the movie is off centre. Where as those in the second group just poke you right at the very end.

Coppertop · 02-28-2005, 01:55 PM

Closet Land fits the criteria. Alan Rickman and Madeleine Stowe are the entire cast of the film. Check it out if you haven't already.

renaldorick · 02-28-2005, 02:04 PM

What a great topic. I love running into Donnie Darko fans. Have you seen the new Director's Cut. It's great - totally goes into the Time Travel book more. It's available now on DVD.

One of my favorites in this category would be Dream With the Fishes. A real tripped out flick, neat indie pick - about how you use the time you have. Check it out.

I don't know if Thin Red Line qualifies, but i think it does, as it messes with your head on sort of a medatative level. Another favorite of mine...

MacGuyver · 02-28-2005, 02:07 PM

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. The timeline order in the movie fucks up your shit.

ShaniFaye · 02-28-2005, 02:09 PM

I dont know if its the same thing you're talking about, but Magnolia really messed with me

Lebell · 02-28-2005, 02:13 PM

The Piano Teacher, but probably not in the same way y'all are talking.

Sexymama and I just looked at each other for a minute after that movie ended.

Coppertop · 02-28-2005, 02:14 PM

How could I have forgotten Existenz?

I'm so fired.

ratbastid · 02-28-2005, 03:21 PM

Pi! Pi! Pi!

Total mindfuck!

Sleuth. Lawrence Olivier and Michael Caine at the top of their games.

Dead Again. Wild twist at the end.

thespian86 · 02-28-2005, 04:31 PM

I (heart) Huckabee's is fun stuff... exesentailism and so on and so forth. Give 'er a gander.

thespian86 · 02-28-2005, 04:33 PM

I (heart) Huckabee's is fun stuff... Existentialism and so on and so forth. Give 'er a gander. Plus the line up of actors and actresses are just superb.

raveneye · 02-28-2005, 04:36 PM

Well, how about David Lynch? Blue Velvet, Wild At Heart, Mulholland Drive.

All of those mess with pretty much every lobe of your brain, including the reptilian ones . . . .

Moskie · 02-28-2005, 04:44 PM

I'll just throw this one out there:

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

Learning that Spoiler: Janet was conning them from the start floored me the first time I saw that movie. And the movie gains so much value when you know the ending. One of my favorites.

TexanAvenger · 02-28-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid

Pi! Pi! Pi!

Total mindfuck!

Damn, beat me to it. And yes, total mindfuck would be the title given to it.

Booray · 02-28-2005, 05:25 PM

Agree on Jacob's Ladder (and some others above). One freaky movie.

These are not neccessarily fucked up movies (although some are), but they have fucked up twists:
Frailty
Psycho
Fight Club
Seven
Swimming Pool
Vanilla Sky
Primal Fear
Angel Heart
Arlington Road
No Way Out
Matchstick Men
The Game
The Life of David Gale
12 Monkeys

bparker805 · 02-28-2005, 06:35 PM

I would like to throw Saw into the mix... I dont want to spoil anything but it got me big time!

Anxst · 02-28-2005, 08:42 PM

Ratbastid: Glad to see I'm not the only one that loves Sleuth. That movie is phenomenal, and quite the mind screw.

Being John Malkovich was always up there for me on that scale, as was Cube. Most of the others I can think of are already listed here.

Oh, and of course, who can forget The Wall.

munchen · 02-28-2005, 08:53 PM

Oh man The Wall for sure. Even sober. Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas messes with my head as well.

Booray · 02-28-2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxst

Ratbastid: Glad to see I'm not the only one that loves Sleuth. That movie is phenomenal, and quite the mind screw.

Good movie. Finally saw it about 2 years ago. I LOVE that house in the movie. I'd love to live there (with all the toys and stuff included, of course).

ElwoodBlues · 02-28-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bparker805

I would like to throw Saw into the mix... I dont want to spoil anything but it got me big time!

I always saw Saw as more of a suprise ending than a total mind-fuck. I mean, while the whole conecpt of the movie was a bit twisted, it didn't quite mess with your preception like Donnie Darko and Memento.

greeneyes · 02-28-2005, 10:39 PM

While Requiem For a Dream may not have a "twist" or surprise ending, it definitely makes you think wtf?

Cylvre · 02-28-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Booray

Matchstick Men
The Game

Matchstick Men is a great movie! That girl, she's in White Olander as well ( i believe), is an amazing actress. Especially for her age.

The Game is great too. I saw it a few years ago, I loved it but my mom had to watch it like 3 times and she was still confused as all hell.

I love movies that make you really, /really/ think. Did anyone mention 21 Grams yet? That's a great trippy movie. Lost in Translation really makes you look at things differently. Cant forget The Virgin Suicides too.

Alot of the movies we're mentioning are released in the US by Focus Features, they make alot of indie-feel raw movies. At least recently. Check their website: http://www.focusfeatures.com/home.php

ElwoodBlues · 02-28-2005, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by greeneyes

While Requiem For a Dream may not have a "twist" or surprise ending, it definitely makes you think wtf?

Requiem always makes me think "DAMN. I will never do anything more than pot"

They should show that movie in high school Health Classes. Requiem; My Anti-Drug

anleja · 02-28-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by greeneyes

While Requiem For a Dream may not have a "twist" or surprise ending, it definitely makes you think wtf?

Yes, you beat me to it. I agree its not a surprise what ends up happening, but from the beginning of the film the tension and overall badness of what these people are doing to themselves keeps growing and growing until the viewer feels like breaking under the pressure. Not a "feel-good" movie in the least. (But I like it!)

shAzb0t · 03-01-2005, 02:24 AM

Usual Suspects, definitely. As retsuki03 says, the ending had me thinking for about an hour after I had finished the movie. It was superbly put together.

Matchstick Men, of course, has the same type of ending. The relatively tame plot really opened up with the ending and gave a whole lot more depth to the characters.

Pi, yes! One of my favourite movies of all time.

Disappointed to see that only one person has thought of Cube

It's pretty ridiculous, but if you don't like gore, I don't recommend it.

Lastly, I once watched The 25th Hour while I was really tired and it tripped me out, I don't know why, hahaha.

Charlatan · 03-01-2005, 05:19 AM

I liked Cube but it didn't really mess with my mind...

Booray · 03-01-2005, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cylvre

That girl, she's in White Olander as well ( i believe), is an amazing actress.

That was a good movie too. She was also in Big Fish as Ewan McGregor's future wife.

Hain · 03-01-2005, 06:47 AM

Frailty, The Game, 12 Monkeys... yeah mind fucks. Magnolia was just one of those movies that makes you realize that you are no longer sitting in your chair... and you are in a sitting position in the middle of your living room.

The Crying Game... Not a mind fuck... just really really "weird"...

Dark City! How can I forget Dark City!

Charlatan · 03-01-2005, 07:11 AM

I'd have to agree, even though I suggested it, that The Crying Game isn't a mind fuck for most, but when it came out it was definately a mind fuck for many.

La Jetee (which is what 12 Monkeys was based on) was a good mind fuck...

Arlington Road was a good film, not a mind fuck for the viewer as much as a mind fuck for the characters.... It makes you squirm as a result.

Glory's Sun · 03-01-2005, 07:22 AM

Requiem is the best mind fuck IMO. Spun fucks with your head but the ending is pretty weak. Darko is great and for some reason Seven always fucks with me.. I remember the first time I saw it .. I just sat there open jawed when the box was opened.

Redlemon · 03-01-2005, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Booray

12 Monkeys

I was thinking about saying that, but I don't see that many movies, and I thought I'd be laughed at for picking it. Thanks for going first!

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

I liked Cube but it didn't really mess with my mind...

Then there's Hypercube. Oof. The only WTF about it was wondering why I spent the time watching it.

roachboy · 03-01-2005, 08:39 AM

la jetee is a great great film.

cassavetes' "opening night" does quite a job on your brain as well.

Hain · 03-01-2005, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

Then there's Hypercube. Oof. The only WTF about it was wondering why I spent the time watching it.

Excactly! Cube itself wasn't a real good mind fuck. It only made sure that you were not aware of what was happening. But it was a good movie. MUCH BETTER than Hypercube.

Charlatan · 03-01-2005, 08:55 AM

Hypercube is that most odious of specimens... the sequel created to capitalize on the success of the first film.

You should note that the writer/director of the film wasn't involved in the sequel. You might also not know that Cube was a student film (part of the Features First program at the Canadian Film Centre) and was a *huge* hit in France and Japan (huge).

Booray · 03-01-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

Then there's Hypercube. Oof. The only WTF about it was wondering why I spent the time watching it.

so true. I really enjoyed Cube and then was so ticked that the sequel was that bad. Should've figured that would happen.

Apparently, the third Cube movie "Cube Zero" is already out on DVD. Looks like it's a prequel.

From http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...396239-7616924:

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Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
Following the grisly 1997 Cube and its 2002 sequel, Cube 2: Hypercube, Cube Zero stretches the original's The Twilight Zone-like, strangers-in-a-box theme a little thin. Fortunately, there's a difference this time. The hero is not just another disoriented captive of the Cube's interconnected--often lethal--rooms, but rather a geek named Eric (Zachary Bennett) who sits in a control station wrestling with his conscience about inflicting misery on innocent people. Taking orders over the phone from some almighty, unknown power in a distant office, Eric reaches a breaking point and enters the maze himself, intent on helping a woman (Stephanie Moore) who doubts his motives. The existential bent of the prior films becomes even more Kafkaesque this time with the arrival of a white-collar team of tormentors, bureaucratic tyrants who can't or won't explain the point of the Cube. Imaginative writer-director Ernie Barbarash rescues what might have been a tedious formula flick. --Tom Keogh

Description
Every nightmare has a beginning. In this prequel to the cult hit Cube, one of the most successful sci-fi thrillers of the last decade, a new group of unwilling participants frantically moves through an ominous construct of cube-shaped rooms. Each room holds the threat of hideously inventive and painful death. Finding the real exit, however, may not offer the freedom one seeks.

From the featured user comments for Cube Zero on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377713/:

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Having watched all three films, and listened to their director's commentaries I'm slowly beginning to unfold the mystery which surround the CUBE.

This is the film that should have followed the original, this film had all of it's best qualities, with much the same levels of tension and action. However the main difference is that for the first time, we catch a glimpse of the powers that be and the world outside the CUBE.

There are still very few scenes given depth and variation by a wide range of camera work and lighting. Once again we find ourselves following the activities of a diverse bunch of characters, however in this film the skills and histories of these individuals are not as important as in the first film.

This is a fantastic title which tributes the impressive original, if you were disappointed by Hypercube, watch this, and it WILL restore your faith in the CUBE story.

Cylvre · 03-01-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Booray

That was a good movie too. She was also in Big Fish as Ewan McGregor's future wife.

Yes! I knew there was another big movie she was in but for the life of me I coulden't remember what it was.

And on the current note of the Cube series: I'm not sure if I'll be able to bring myself to watch Cube Zero after Hypercube... I probably will sometime though, cause I'm a movie whore like that.

soccerchamp76 · 03-01-2005, 06:13 PM

Requiem for a Dream and Saw, both great but haunting movies.

anleja · 03-01-2005, 07:34 PM

Flashdance. Here is the plot summary from IMDb.com:

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Alex Owens is a female dynamo: steel worker by day, exotic dancer by night. Her dream is to get into a real dance company, though, and with encouragement from her boss/boyfriend, she may get her chance. The city of Pittsburgh co-stars. What a feeling!

I am serious when I say this movie fucks with my mind. Maybe the lame plot, the extreme 80's feel... the fact it made a ton of money...

02-28-2005, 12:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	Movies to F--- With Your Mind The only reason its dashed out is because the school server blocks pages with swears... damn them. Still, I really love movies that truly mess with your mind. Stuff like Donnie Darko, Identity, The Cell, Memento. What are some other really excellent movies that screw with your head at the end. "It's absurd. The search for God is absurd? It is if everyone dies alone. Does that scare you? I don't want to be alone." EDIT: If you shake your head in absolute amazement while or after seeing a movie, it's a mind fuck! __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\ Last edited by Hain; 04-03-2005 at 07:51 PM..

02-28-2005, 01:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Jacob's Ladder, Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession and (for some) The Crying Game, __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

02-28-2005, 01:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	I think there is a sigificant difference between movies that fuck with one's perception of reality: IE: Donnie Darko, Identity, The Cell, Memento ...and those that simply have a surprise twist at the end: IE: The Sixth Sense, Usual Suspects, The Crying Game Those in the frist group are more "systemically" twisted in that the whole fabric of the movie is off centre. Where as those in the second group just poke you right at the very end. __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

02-28-2005, 02:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
MacGuyver You're going to have to trust me! Location: Massachusetts	Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. The timeline order in the movie fucks up your shit. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. ---Aristotle Deeds, not words, shall speak [for] me. ---John Fletcher

02-28-2005, 02:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I dont know if its the same thing you're talking about, but Magnolia really messed with me __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

02-28-2005, 12:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
retsuki03 Crazy Location: Austin, TX	How about the Usual Suspects? I'm not sure if that qualifies, but at the end I was surprised- and that made the movie.

02-28-2005, 01:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Closet Land fits the criteria. Alan Rickman and Madeleine Stowe are the entire cast of the film. Check it out if you haven't already.

02-28-2005, 02:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
renaldorick Upright	What a great topic. I love running into Donnie Darko fans. Have you seen the new Director's Cut. It's great - totally goes into the Time Travel book more. It's available now on DVD. One of my favorites in this category would be Dream With the Fishes. A real tripped out flick, neat indie pick - about how you use the time you have. Check it out. I don't know if Thin Red Line qualifies, but i think it does, as it messes with your head on sort of a medatative level. Another favorite of mine...

02-28-2005, 02:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	The Piano Teacher, but probably not in the same way y'all are talking. Sexymama and I just looked at each other for a minute after that movie ended. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

02-28-2005, 02:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	How could I have forgotten Existenz? I'm so fired.

02-28-2005, 03:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	Pi! Pi! Pi! Total mindfuck! Sleuth. Lawrence Olivier and Michael Caine at the top of their games. Dead Again. Wild twist at the end.

02-28-2005, 04:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room.	I (heart) Huckabee's is fun stuff... exesentailism and so on and so forth. Give 'er a gander. __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.

02-28-2005, 04:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room.	I (heart) Huckabee's is fun stuff... Existentialism and so on and so forth. Give 'er a gander. Plus the line up of actors and actresses are just superb. __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.

02-28-2005, 04:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
raveneye Born Against	Well, how about David Lynch? Blue Velvet, Wild At Heart, Mulholland Drive. All of those mess with pretty much every lobe of your brain, including the reptilian ones . . . .

02-28-2005, 04:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
Moskie Pure Chewing Satisfaction Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?	I'll just throw this one out there: Dirty Rotten Scoundrels Learning that Spoiler: Janet was conning them from the start floored me the first time I saw that movie. And the movie gains so much value when you know the ending. One of my favorites. __________________ Greetings and salutations.

02-28-2005, 05:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Booray Stumbling to the end Location: Atlanta, GA	Agree on Jacob's Ladder (and some others above). One freaky movie. These are not neccessarily fucked up movies (although some are), but they have fucked up twists: Frailty Psycho Fight Club Seven Swimming Pool Vanilla Sky Primal Fear Angel Heart Arlington Road No Way Out Matchstick Men The Game The Life of David Gale 12 Monkeys __________________ Persuaded, paraded, inebriated, and down Still aware of everything life carries on without

02-28-2005, 06:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
bparker805 is KING! Location: On the path to Valhalla.	I would like to throw Saw into the mix... I dont want to spoil anything but it got me big time!

02-28-2005, 08:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
Anxst Condensing fact from the vapor of nuance. Location: Madison, WI	Ratbastid: Glad to see I'm not the only one that loves Sleuth. That movie is phenomenal, and quite the mind screw. Being John Malkovich was always up there for me on that scale, as was Cube. Most of the others I can think of are already listed here. Oh, and of course, who can forget The Wall. __________________ Don't mind me. I'm just releasing the insanity pressure from my headvalves.

02-28-2005, 08:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
munchen Crazy Location: Sudbury, Ontario	Oh man The Wall for sure. Even sober. Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas messes with my head as well. __________________ "Love is a perky elf dancing a merry little jig and then suddenly he turns on you with a miniature machine gun" -Matt Groening

02-28-2005, 10:39 PM	#23 (permalink)
greeneyes Insane Location: Charlotte, NC	While Requiem For a Dream may not have a "twist" or surprise ending, it definitely makes you think wtf? __________________ Put the blame on me So you don't feel a thing Go on and save yourself Take it out on me

03-01-2005, 02:24 AM	#27 (permalink)
shAzb0t Psycho Location: whereever my portable hard drive takes me	Usual Suspects, definitely. As retsuki03 says, the ending had me thinking for about an hour after I had finished the movie. It was superbly put together. Matchstick Men, of course, has the same type of ending. The relatively tame plot really opened up with the ending and gave a whole lot more depth to the characters. Pi, yes! One of my favourite movies of all time. Disappointed to see that only one person has thought of Cube It's pretty ridiculous, but if you don't like gore, I don't recommend it. Lastly, I once watched The 25th Hour while I was really tired and it tripped me out, I don't know why, hahaha.

03-01-2005, 05:19 AM	#28 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I liked Cube but it didn't really mess with my mind... __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

03-01-2005, 06:47 AM	#30 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	Frailty, The Game, 12 Monkeys... yeah mind fucks. Magnolia was just one of those movies that makes you realize that you are no longer sitting in your chair... and you are in a sitting position in the middle of your living room. The Crying Game... Not a mind fuck... just really really "weird"... Dark City! How can I forget Dark City! __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\

03-01-2005, 07:11 AM	#31 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I'd have to agree, even though I suggested it, that The Crying Game isn't a mind fuck for most, but when it came out it was definately a mind fuck for many. La Jetee (which is what 12 Monkeys was based on) was a good mind fuck... Arlington Road was a good film, not a mind fuck for the viewer as much as a mind fuck for the characters.... It makes you squirm as a result. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

03-01-2005, 07:22 AM	#32 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	Requiem is the best mind fuck IMO. Spun fucks with your head but the ending is pretty weak. Darko is great and for some reason Seven always fucks with me.. I remember the first time I saw it .. I just sat there open jawed when the box was opened.

03-01-2005, 08:39 AM	#34 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	la jetee is a great great film. cassavetes' "opening night" does quite a job on your brain as well. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite

03-01-2005, 08:55 AM	#36 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Hypercube is that most odious of specimens... the sequel created to capitalize on the success of the first film. You should note that the writer/director of the film wasn't involved in the sequel. You might also not know that Cube was a student film (part of the Features First program at the Canadian Film Centre) and was a huge hit in France and Japan (huge). __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

03-01-2005, 06:13 PM	#39 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	Requiem for a Dream and Saw, both great but haunting movies. __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.