I mean the title in jest. Seriously.
I'd like to continue the topic but also explain my post, and do it all without further hijacking of a
different thread.
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Originally Posted by onesnowyowl
But we wouldn't take this challenge in my household, simply because my SO is vegetarian, and I don't cook meat at home. As to luciferase's comments about vegetarianism: I am a proud omnivore, and I enjoy a good steak being such, but vegetarianism is a way of life with a number of health benefits, not to mention the comfort one has knowing they're not contributing to the confined animal feeding operation racket. When I do eat meat, I choose it conscientiously because I don't want to continue to promote the CAFO system (KFC uses CAFOs to raise their chickens and/or buys chickens raised in a CAFO). The environmental effects of such operations are profound; such CAFOs create enormous amounts of pollution and waste that must be dealt with. We get by eating a significant amount of legumes in our diet, and neither my SO or I have had any problems with protein deficiency or anemia. |
I'd like to reply to this, and not like before.
I replied hastily and perhaps harshly because my sister-in-law is vegan and tries to force that shit on us every holiday. It's created a rift in the family between my mom-in-law and her that pisses me off (note: she cared for me in high school, so she's more like "mom" than "mom-in-law"). Anyways, notice it's holiday time, and I get to look forward to this crap again sometime soon. It's annoying ....no, it's infuriating when someone pops in and says
hey let's eat beans and be happy! because that's just like my sister. Ugh. I get it enough from her, like I need it on the web too. I eat beans as a side dish. I can't sustain myself on beans and rice, I'd be a fatass and I'd fart all the time, and I wouldn't enjoy my food. Plus I get literally sick if I go for several days without meat, and I start shoving chocolate or any other proteinaceous food down my throat. It's another one of those "
what works for you might not for me, so let's not push shall we?" topics.
So anyways, to my previous reply, I apologize. It comes off as weird because I want to yell it at someone else and it has nothing to do with anyone here...well not directly. My sister and I argue occasionally because she's a liberal vegan buddhist (or whatever fits her this week, she's more into the fashion of it than the real deal) and I'm a fairly conservative omnivore quasi-christian...or whatever allows God and psychics to intermingle. We're cordial and we chat, but we absolutely cannot touch personal beliefs.
I agree on the CAFO issue and I'm not a massive KFC eater, but I don't exactly boycott them, either. I could drive all the way to downtown Houston at WholeFoods and see if I can find free-range chickens, but that's a PITA and a huge waste of gas. I haven't bothered looking locally because, well, I haven't cared enough to try. I'm not one of those "every individual counts" people. If the community reacts, that matters. If I react to a national/global concern, it appears as a futile and inconvenient act in my eyes and that doesn't work for me.
I'm not saying vegetarian/vegan is wrong, I'm just saying that I don't go around telling people on here to eat meat, and I should expect similar treatment from the other side of the issue. I think that is a fair implication, despite the somewhat more liberal influence of this forum.
And if it's ok, I'd like to request that the admins and mods allow this thread to be hijacked on any side issue arising from this topic. I prefer open discussion and to just let it go where it wants to go, rather than force one-lane driving only. That is, if the leaders of TFP permit such requests. Thanks either way.