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Originally Posted by filtherton
This is the type of thing you can't talk about without being considered a racist.
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Agreed. Case in point...
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Originally Posted by genuinegirly
Why they show this "culture of failure" in the black community, and not others, I don't understand. I have seen it in Latino communities, in Caucasian communities, etc.
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Yes, this...so called "culture of failure" is seen in all communities. But...I beleive that it is pervasive in the black community. And don't ask me to cite a bunch of useless statistics. I don't have 'em. What I do have is two 44 year old eyes, and an address that borders on the edge of the "hood". I see, for myself, much of what the op-ed describes, in practice. It's not something that can be painted away with the diversity brush.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
where is their bourgeois redeemer?
which can be translated into the real lament: why cant everybody be like us?
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why cant everybody know their place and stay there?
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What? Responsible, law abiding, productive citizens?
Then color me bourgeois.
“When you hear boys saying it’s a ‘rite of passage’ to go to jail, or the thing that is so controversial but has been going on for a while — kids telling other kids that if they’re trying to do well in school they’re trying to ‘act better than me."
That is no exageration. I saw it first hand, at my daughter's high school. At first, I tried to deny it...but it
happens.
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Originally Posted by Sage
The idea that, in other countries like England, there is no "urban black culture" intrigues me, because honestly I've never met a black person who didn't have a huge chip on their shoulder simply because they were black.
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I agee with...
most of your post. Except for this part. I do have several black friends, that are completely dismissed by the black community, as being "Oreo". That is, black on the outside...white on the inside.
When any type of responsible black leadership is so sumarily dismissed, then what is left to fill the void? Counter culture, over glamorized, street thugs and hoodlums.
I don't have the answers.