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Sen 08-25-2003 08:03 AM

Everyday items as weapons...
 
From what I understand, most of the martial arts weapons had their genesis in everyday items such as farming tools, etc. I was just wondering, what everyday items have you thought about or seen used as weapons. (Obviously kitchen knives, etc. excluded.)

For instance, a belt. Post what you think.

arnis 08-25-2003 09:22 AM

A rolled up magazine/newspaper.
My Hanshi used to ask semi-new students if paper could hurt you.
No matter the answer you got a nice poke in the gut with todays roled up paper. Yes it hurts!

A. Rothschild 08-25-2003 09:40 AM

Ashtray... they are usually made out of glass, stone, metal, etc.
Books. The essential tool of selfdefence for any student. Many of theese objects are made from wood and especially in highschool they tend to be rather heavy... :/

In general, anything that has the weight of a brick or above, a sharp or pointy edge, can be used as a weapon.

Sen 08-25-2003 01:39 PM

Fascinating about the paper. Makes sense, though.

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Memnoch 08-25-2003 04:46 PM

CDs make *wonderful* throwing-star-type-dealies.

weedline 08-25-2003 05:11 PM

You are the weapon every thing else is just a tool.
But if if you need a gun THAT IS THE TOOL YOU NEED. And if you do not have that tool in the box you are f#cked!!

Fire 08-25-2003 05:43 PM

picture frames work well- see above on ashtrays- broom handles and simmilar sticks are quite nice pens and pencils are fair stabbing implements- by the way - any body read the book shibumi- (think spelling right) was by the guy that wrote the eiger sanction- think he was named trevenian- anyway- the assasin in that book- also main character always prefered to kill with household objects....

Dilbert1234567 08-25-2003 09:24 PM

something large/heavy/with leverage

redravin40 08-25-2003 09:52 PM

Ani Defranco said

Quote:

Every tool is a weapon, you just have to hold it right.

Oblivion437 08-25-2003 09:59 PM

Well, everyday...hmmm, papercutter blades, a broken glass, curtain rod, lifting weights, a spoon, a fork, power cord, piano wire, letter opener, picture frame, chair, chair leg, wooden box, metal box, monkey wrench, hard cover book, lighter, cigarette (Lit, for a prime example, in the Graphic Novel Watchmen, Kovaks as a kid shoved a lit one in the eye of one of a group of kids who were tormenting him, then he jumps on one of the others and starts mangling him and biting his face) Paint thinner, Hair spray, shaving cream, thumb tacks, keyboard, monitor, computer, mouse, speakers, tv, tv stand, general broken objects of hard structure. I can't think of more right now.

Kaydron 08-26-2003 12:10 AM

hehe a spray with a lighter, or some gasolin and a lighter lol

seethreepo 08-26-2003 10:49 PM

you can kill with a straw

try it get a raw potato , cover one end of straw jam into potato.

SCARY.

seizei 08-27-2003 12:58 AM

Re: Everyday items as weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sen
From what I understand, most of the martial arts weapons had their genesis in everyday items such as farming tools, etc. I was just wondering, what everyday items have you thought about or seen used as weapons. (Obviously kitchen knives, etc. excluded.)

For instance, a belt. Post what you think.

saying that most martial arts weapons came from farming tools is wrong... during the period in Japan when the common people were prohibited from carryiny weapons, they did develop farming tools for that use. For example, the kama is derived from the sickle, nunchaku from the flail to beat grain, tonfa from the handle of a grinder, sai were used to plant seeds...

spears, swords, daggers and the great majority of other 'martial arts weapons' were designed to be weapons first and foremost.

ok done clearing up the details.

My number one favourite easy-to-use and everyday weapon is:

my mind

but some other nifty ones are:
1) a steaming hot cup of coffee
2) ID/credit card (cut the corners into 90 degree angles and they'll cut like a knife)

and everyone has heard of using car keys

Sen 08-27-2003 12:56 PM

Re: Re: Everyday items as weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by seizei
saying that most martial arts weapons came from farming tools is wrong... during the period in Japan when the common people were prohibited from carryiny weapons, they did develop farming tools for that use. For example, the kama is derived from the sickle, nunchaku from the flail to beat grain, tonfa from the handle of a grinder, sai were used to plant seeds...
That's exactly what I'm talking about...so, how exactly was I wrong? Perhaps I should have said that martial arts weapons, in general, were derived from farming equipment. I knew about the oppressive Japanese government being the reason. Obviously, spears, swords, etc...were not originally designed as farming equipment. Furthermore, I don't consider those weapons inherently "martial arts" weapons. Saying that the statement is wrong, is a bit presumptuous.

That being said, the credit card idea is a good one.

yournamehere 08-27-2003 02:08 PM

</b>seizei</b>
You are so correct.
I fly a lot on business, and as long as I have my wallet, I am very well armed. I always place a credit card in my shirt pocket while I'm on a plane, and I always also make sure to grab a pillow and blanket, as a defensive measure.

You can do the same thing with laminated drivers licenses or even photographs.

bermuDa 08-27-2003 04:45 PM

when i was younger i became convinced an aluminum ladder was a perfect weapon after watching a jackie chan movie. That guy does some amazing stuff with everyday items :)

JStrider 08-27-2003 05:26 PM

the massive 6 Dcell mag lites... ive got a 4 Dcell one in my car... id like to get a 6 tho... they make great clubs...

YourNeverThere 08-28-2003 01:48 AM

JSrider, ya man, police use those, there nuts.

Personally I've always been fasinated by tools that could be weapons, well that are I guess.
Other than that, well there's shanks.

Moonduck 08-28-2003 06:14 AM

Weedtime got it right.

"You are the weapon"

shakran 08-28-2003 08:32 AM

ANYTHING can be a weapon. I'm surprised no one's mentioned items commonly found as litter on the street. Beer bottles (broken or unbroken), pipes, rocks, sand (kick it into their eyes), etc. There are all sorts of weapons lying around on the street.

bigjule 08-28-2003 09:11 AM

Ricky Jay (hes a magician turned actor, the big guy who played the camera man in Boogie Nights) wrote a book called Playing Cards as Weapons which is now out of print. He used to go on Carson adn imbed cards into watermelons. If anyone has a copy of this book I would love to buy it.

telekinetic2 08-28-2003 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigjule
Ricky Jay (hes a magician turned actor, the big guy who played the camera man in Boogie Nights) wrote a book called Playing Cards as Weapons which is now out of print. He used to go on Carson adn imbed cards into watermelons. If anyone has a copy of this book I would love to buy it.
Good luck man...it's on amazon.com and the cheapest price is like $200...

shakran 08-28-2003 01:47 PM

you don't need the book. just look it up on google, there's a guy out there who teaches you how to do it in a free website. It really does work too as my wife will tell you - she wasn't too happy when I tried the technique and stuck a card in the wall she'd just wallpapered. Oops.

AlCap0wn 08-29-2003 09:07 PM

Turned up in the top ten on Google.

Edit - Shit, I suck at linking.

Munku 08-30-2003 09:49 AM

Pillow cast with something small and hard inside. Like a golf ball, or something.

Mr. Moe 08-30-2003 09:04 PM

surprised no one said anything about lamps. If anyone ever broke into my room that's the first thing headed towards their face.

seizei 09-01-2003 12:49 PM

Re: Re: Re: Everyday items as weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sen
That's exactly what I'm talking about...so, how exactly was I wrong? Perhaps I should have said that martial arts weapons, in general, were derived from farming equipment. I knew about the oppressive Japanese government being the reason. Obviously, spears, swords, etc...were not originally designed as farming equipment. Furthermore, I don't consider those weapons inherently "martial arts" weapons. Saying that the statement is wrong, is a bit presumptuous.

That being said, the credit card idea is a good one.

meant to point out that the farm tools thing is from 1 area
(Okinawa) where weapons were outlawed. The weapons they developed have become famous as martial arts weapons, but they are a very small percentage of martial arts weapons and come from a very very small area.

so martial arts weapons, in general, were not derived from farming tools. A few specific examples of martial arts weapons, that have become very recognizable as such, were developed from farming tools, but they by no stretch of the imagination comprise the majority of martial arts weapons.

JimmyTheHutt 09-01-2003 02:45 PM

I'm personally fond of pens and pencils. It doesn't take much to use them halfways effectively, and the first time someone has a pencil protruding from some part of their body, it will take most of the fight out of them.

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

Asshole Lover 09-01-2003 07:13 PM

i think my keys and my fists would be my weapons. other than that weapons in my vicinity.

PredeconInferno 09-01-2003 10:25 PM

My favorite is the toilet seat.

What? It's curved! and quite pointy in parts!

Asshole Lover 09-02-2003 02:57 AM

tioilet seat?

did you read the manga of ranma 1/2 where ranma meets mouse? haha

prosequence 09-02-2003 03:12 PM

liquid/gel candles, burning preferably.

javex.... fun to throw

tv antenna

sock with pennies inside

phone book

cacti .... throw pot and all

phoneline ... good for strangling

CATS... yeah yeah... throwing cats at people is good !!!!!

Sen 09-03-2003 12:09 PM

Cats! That's hilarious!

Oblivion437 09-06-2003 12:24 PM

Re: Re: Everyday items as weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by seizei
nunchaku from the flail to beat grain
Actually, the Nunchaku was completely a Hollywood invention. It wasn't used in the place it was supposed to come from.

Cobalt_60 09-06-2003 04:26 PM

Well, last night I went to see a friend. First time being at this apartment complex. So I put a big foot long screwdriver in my back pocket. I didnt think about taking anything when I left the house. And when I got there it was the only thing I had in my truck.

Zargix 09-06-2003 08:37 PM

hmmm. i have a big 4-5 foot long 3/8" diameter steel rod in my room at all times. its for making chainmaille, but i accidently one time took out a good chunk of my wall with it.

seizei 09-08-2003 12:32 PM

Re: Re: Re: Everyday items as weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oblivion437
Actually, the Nunchaku was completely a Hollywood invention. It wasn't used in the place it was supposed to come from.
Nunchaku is part of Kobujutsu, which teaches the large array of traditional Okinawan weapons.

Excerpt from 'The Martial Arts Encyclopedia'. Lawler, Jennifer. Masters Press. 1996. Pg.224.

Quote:

Nunchaku:
A flail made of two short pieces of wood each the length of the forearm, attached by a short cord or chain. It was originally a farming tool, used for threshing. It was developed in Okinawa into a formidable weapon. It can be used to crush, poke, or jab, and it can deflect and parry other weapons. There are numerous blocking and striking techniques that can be performed by experts, though since it is a very difficult art, great masters are increasingly rare.

Nunchaku have been in use as a weapon for many many years. I happen to train with one of the great masters of the nunchaku - he has published instructional videos and also assures me of the nunchaku's authenticity and effectiveness (usually through somewhat painful example).

They are most certainly not a Hollywood invention.

Force 10 09-08-2003 05:27 PM

Good question. After 9.11 the airlines took away my right to defend myself with my normal pocketknife.

Not to worry, I now carry a full metal ink pen in my shirt pocket... I'm an upstanding citizen with a beautiful writing utensil in plain view. I'll stab your ass in the neck beitch!

;-)

bigjule 09-08-2003 05:40 PM

A friend of mine carries a nylon brush in her carryon bag that is actually a very effective piercing weapon hidden in the head of the brush. Since it is all nylon it has never been found or inspected.


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