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propaganda · 07-31-2003, 04:53 PM

I've been looking at a couple of rifles cheap yet effective and arrcurate. I've seen the Remington 710 never short one but I've heard they are good and expect them to be great since they are the new class of 700. Any suggestions?

debaser · 07-31-2003, 05:10 PM

What are you looking to do with your rifle?

If you are truely new to the whole thing, I reccomend you go to a CMP shooting match. You can rent a weapon from them. You will be paired up with a coach, taught to shoot properly and accurately, and at the end of the day they will give you a certificate with which you can buy an arsenal kept M1 Garand for $250 or so. Great deal on a great rifle.

http://www.odcmp.com/

propaganda · 07-31-2003, 07:40 PM

That sounds so awsome since I'm a WW2 buff. Thanks

Menoman · 07-31-2003, 08:13 PM

If your shooting small game, prairie dogs, groundhogs, things like that. Good old .22 mag can do well out to 125-150 yards dependant on situation. After that not enough power to sufficiently get a clean kill.

Nhanced1 · 07-31-2003, 09:12 PM

If your a WW2 buff, you can pick up a good K98 for sub 200. its a great rifle, and alot of fun to shoot. God I love bolt action.

Slims · 07-31-2003, 09:16 PM

If it's your first gun, you probably need to get a little .22 to learn to shoot with.

Otherwise you will develop recoil induced bad habits that will be near impossible to break.

And at 3 dollars for a fifty round box (verses 20 dollars for 20 rounds), you can afford to practice enough to actually become proficient.

dudemac · 08-01-2003, 10:45 AM

I agree with greg, if its your first start with a .22 to learn the basics.

The Rem 700 is a great rifle and you can get it in alot of cal. and tons of aftermarket add-ons.

But when picking a rifle, think what you will be shooting.
deer, elk, bear, small game.

Also when and where you will be hunting, cold snow areas, humid southren region or dry midwest.

Even though i now have a few differant rifles, i still like my Rem 700 .243 and .270 rifles. Both are dependable and the calibers are general enough to find at any walmart.

I bought a 6mm awhile ago and even though its great, if i run out of ammo, i am screwed.

My .270 is also in stainless since, i live in a humid area and hunt in rugged terain, i also when with the synthetic stock to reduce the chance of rust and breakage. I highly reccomend stainless if you have the means. But, i am also a bit of an anti rust nut, so it really helps me out alot.

mtsgsd · 08-01-2003, 10:59 AM

I agree that you should start small if you've never used a gun before. .22 rimfire is cheap and you won't develop the bad habits described in the other post. Plus, you can get something like the Ruger 10/22 for about $150 new, with tons of after market parts to trick it up anyway you like when you start getting good with it.

I have one that looks like a space gun with all the special parts, but it's a tack driver. What use is a gun that isn't?

dudemac · 08-01-2003, 11:14 AM

and you can have fun with that rotary trigger for that near full auto effect.

Plus 500 rounds of rimfire will cost about 5 bucks.

sailor · 08-02-2003, 08:06 AM

Yeah, thats the good thing about .22 ammunition... Its so cheap. You can go get little milk cartons of cheap .22 for a few bucks--thats like 1000 rounds.

Many people dont realize how expensive ammunition is. Most rounds are about $1 a pop--that adds up fast if you are going to the range, or practicing, or whatever. If you buy a gun that fires current military caliber ammunition, like a .223 or a 7.62mm, you can sometimes get cheap ammunition, about $.50 a pop--but thats still not something to plink with.

Exodus · 08-02-2003, 05:42 PM

I agree. If you are looking for something to get started with and dont want to hunt large game, get a little .22. Cheap as hell to buy and to shoot. If you are looking to get into big game hunting, the Rem 700, the Savage FP10, both in .308 are great guns. There isnt too much recoil with a .308, especially when you compare it to something like a 7mm Rem Mag, and its an accurate round.

marcopolo · 08-03-2003, 10:45 AM

The fit to your body of the firearm you choose is just important as the caliber . Are you over 6 foot tall with a healthy arm length ... then a lot of firearms may not fit you so you can pull the gun up and properly put a cheek weld on the stock .The simple rule to remember is that it must be comfortable. What you want is a stock that you can pick up, close your eyes, shoulder the rifle, open your eyes and see the centre line of the sights or scope without having to adjust your body to fit the stock or move the rifle to fit your body.
You should instantly have the same position on the stock to your body every time you pull up the gun to fire without creeping up and down the stock to find the sweet spot . A bad fit of a firearm can cause bruising and missed shots down range . Go to your local gun shop and snap a few different models and makes into the firing position to see which one feels right to you . You may be one of the lucky ones to find a rifle that fits you without alterations to the firearm .There are ways of adjusting Original fit , feel and balance .
Cheekpiece
Shape
Buttstocks
Forearm
Wrist
Length of Pull
Buttstock & Comb
Drop

Can all be adjusted by a qualified gunsmith for a nominal fee .

loxor · 08-05-2003, 11:44 PM

For something cheap to fire...and reliable... I would suggest a Ruger Mini-14 in .223. u can pick up one new for around 400 the ammo is very cheap and u can get it most any ware .That was my first one and I had a lot of fun with it and still be within my budget

Buzz · 08-06-2003, 08:46 AM

What are you going to Hunt or is it for target shooting.

07-31-2003, 04:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
propaganda Psycho	Buying a rifle for a beginnner I've been looking at a couple of rifles cheap yet effective and arrcurate. I've seen the Remington 710 never short one but I've heard they are good and expect them to be great since they are the new class of 700. Any suggestions?

07-31-2003, 05:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
debaser Sir, I have a plan... Location: 38S NC20943324	What are you looking to do with your rifle? If you are truely new to the whole thing, I reccomend you go to a CMP shooting match. You can rent a weapon from them. You will be paired up with a coach, taught to shoot properly and accurately, and at the end of the day they will give you a certificate with which you can buy an arsenal kept M1 Garand for $250 or so. Great deal on a great rifle. http://www.odcmp.com/ __________________ Fortunato became immured to the sound of the trowel after a while.

07-31-2003, 09:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nhanced1 Insane Location: Tucson, AZ	If your a WW2 buff, you can pick up a good K98 for sub 200. its a great rifle, and alot of fun to shoot. God I love bolt action. __________________ "Sell Crazy Somewhere Else, We're All Stocked Up Here," Jack Nicholson - As Good As It Gets

07-31-2003, 09:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	If it's your first gun, you probably need to get a little .22 to learn to shoot with. Otherwise you will develop recoil induced bad habits that will be near impossible to break. And at 3 dollars for a fifty round box (verses 20 dollars for 20 rounds), you can afford to practice enough to actually become proficient. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

08-01-2003, 10:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
dudemac Tilted Location: College Station, TX	I agree with greg, if its your first start with a .22 to learn the basics. The Rem 700 is a great rifle and you can get it in alot of cal. and tons of aftermarket add-ons. But when picking a rifle, think what you will be shooting. deer, elk, bear, small game. Also when and where you will be hunting, cold snow areas, humid southren region or dry midwest. Even though i now have a few differant rifles, i still like my Rem 700 .243 and .270 rifles. Both are dependable and the calibers are general enough to find at any walmart. I bought a 6mm awhile ago and even though its great, if i run out of ammo, i am screwed. My .270 is also in stainless since, i live in a humid area and hunt in rugged terain, i also when with the synthetic stock to reduce the chance of rust and breakage. I highly reccomend stainless if you have the means. But, i am also a bit of an anti rust nut, so it really helps me out alot. __________________ Dudemac Author Somewhere

07-31-2003, 07:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
propaganda Psycho	That sounds so awsome since I'm a WW2 buff. Thanks

08-01-2003, 10:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
mtsgsd Addict Location: Wisconsin, USA	I agree that you should start small if you've never used a gun before. .22 rimfire is cheap and you won't develop the bad habits described in the other post. Plus, you can get something like the Ruger 10/22 for about $150 new, with tons of after market parts to trick it up anyway you like when you start getting good with it. I have one that looks like a space gun with all the special parts, but it's a tack driver. What use is a gun that isn't?

08-01-2003, 11:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
dudemac Tilted Location: College Station, TX	and you can have fun with that rotary trigger for that near full auto effect. Plus 500 rounds of rimfire will cost about 5 bucks. __________________ Dudemac Author Somewhere

08-02-2003, 08:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	Yeah, thats the good thing about .22 ammunition... Its so cheap. You can go get little milk cartons of cheap .22 for a few bucks--thats like 1000 rounds. Many people dont realize how expensive ammunition is. Most rounds are about $1 a pop--that adds up fast if you are going to the range, or practicing, or whatever. If you buy a gun that fires current military caliber ammunition, like a .223 or a 7.62mm, you can sometimes get cheap ammunition, about $.50 a pop--but thats still not something to plink with. __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

08-02-2003, 05:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
Exodus Psycho	I agree. If you are looking for something to get started with and dont want to hunt large game, get a little .22. Cheap as hell to buy and to shoot. If you are looking to get into big game hunting, the Rem 700, the Savage FP10, both in .308 are great guns. There isnt too much recoil with a .308, especially when you compare it to something like a 7mm Rem Mag, and its an accurate round.

08-03-2003, 10:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
marcopolo I am the anomaly. Location: Motown	The fit to your body of the firearm you choose is just important as the caliber . Are you over 6 foot tall with a healthy arm length ... then a lot of firearms may not fit you so you can pull the gun up and properly put a cheek weld on the stock .The simple rule to remember is that it must be comfortable. What you want is a stock that you can pick up, close your eyes, shoulder the rifle, open your eyes and see the centre line of the sights or scope without having to adjust your body to fit the stock or move the rifle to fit your body. You should instantly have the same position on the stock to your body every time you pull up the gun to fire without creeping up and down the stock to find the sweet spot . A bad fit of a firearm can cause bruising and missed shots down range . Go to your local gun shop and snap a few different models and makes into the firing position to see which one feels right to you . You may be one of the lucky ones to find a rifle that fits you without alterations to the firearm .There are ways of adjusting Original fit , feel and balance . Cheekpiece Shape Buttstocks Forearm Wrist Length of Pull Buttstock & Comb Drop Can all be adjusted by a qualified gunsmith for a nominal fee . __________________ Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

08-05-2003, 11:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
loxor Upright Location: Kalamazoo . Mi	For something cheap to fire...and reliable... I would suggest a Ruger Mini-14 in .223. u can pick up one new for around 400 the ammo is very cheap and u can get it most any ware .That was my first one and I had a lot of fun with it and still be within my budget

08-06-2003, 08:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
Buzz Addict Location: Earth	What are you going to Hunt or is it for target shooting. __________________ The Only BEER is a Cold BEER. And a Single Malt will get ya every time.