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ziadel 01-06-2006 06:23 PM

Windows 98 and Ipod data transfer..
 
anywho, I have a windows 98 machine, does anyone know how I can get this machine to recognize my Ipod as a storage device?

or will windows 98 not do this, I dont have any problems doing this on newer machines..


any help would be appreciated.

Cynthetiq 01-06-2006 06:58 PM

according to apple.com

ipod specs
Quote:

Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4 or later, or Windows XP Home or Professional with Service Pack 2 or later
itunes specs
Quote:

Windows XP or 2000 (latest service packs recommended)

alpha phi 01-06-2006 09:52 PM

If you have firewire microsoft has an update
to make your I pod work
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;242975

for USB the only thing I've found so far
is some joker who claims to have reversed engeniered
the Win98 mass storage driver to work with ipod
.....he makes you send $5 paypal then E mails it.....
http://win98.drivers.w.interia.pl/ipod.html
I'll keep looking though.

ziadel 01-07-2006 08:08 AM

paid the 5 bucks.

crap doesnt work.

I plug the Ipod in, but I dont get any prompt, cant get past step 4 :(

anyone here have Ipod and windows 98, I can mail you the software and you can try to get it to work.

vanblah 01-07-2006 08:33 AM

Out of curiosity, what's keeping you from upgrading the machine?

alpha phi 01-07-2006 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziadel
paid the 5 bucks.

crap doesnt work.

I plug the Ipod in, but I dont get any prompt, cant get past step 4 :(

anyone here have Ipod and windows 98, I can mail you the software and you can try to get it to work.

Does it show up in your device manager?
if it does you can manually install the driver.(Win98_USB.inf)
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/9681/ipod0qa.jpg

ziadel 01-07-2006 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanblah
Out of curiosity, what's keeping you from upgrading the machine?


lazyness...

and I want to be able to play the old Lucas Arts X-wing and Tie0Fighter games, I dont think I can do tjhat with Windows 2k Pro

Cynthetiq 01-07-2006 08:55 PM

I don't think that it will work properly, besides Win98SE has some Mass Storage driver issues along with other USB related problems that make it not 100% for using with all USB devices.

from another forum:

Quote:

jimoblak (Instructor) 23 Mar 04 11:29
The ipods use USB2 which is comparable to Firewire. In order to make use of this speed, you must have a USB2 port on your computer. I'm guessing that with Win98 you may have the older, slower USB1.

The only way to get music onto an ipod is through iTunes - which can only work on newer operating systems. iTunes acts as an interface to transfer files and to create playlists for the ipod. You might be able to connect an ipod to a Win98 machine to act as an external hard drive but you will not be able to load playable music on the ipod since iTunes will not be generating a playlist. You could load all the MP3s that you want through Windows Explorer but without iTunes playlist generation, the ipod LCD display will show no songs are available for play.

Apple does not officially support using an ipod on both Mac and Windows platforms - - but that does not mean it cannot be done. I formatted my ipod mini on Windows and I can use it on both my Mac and Windows PC.
- - picklefish - -

ziadel 01-07-2006 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha phi
Does it show up in your device manager?
if it does you can manually install the driver.(Win98_USB.inf)
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/9681/ipod0qa.jpg



ok, that actually got me somewhere, I found the unknown device properties, then I do the update driver, but when I point it to the folder that the .INF file was unpacked too, its just not taking it, Windows cannot locate a driver for this device...

The .INF file is there in that folder, I can see it! FOr some reason, the thing wont let me just select the .INF file...

alpha phi 01-07-2006 09:02 PM

USB1 is awful
I have XP but USB1 ports
I have to restart my computer
after using a USB mass storage device
But it still works
The Ipod software will not work on Win98
You have to use third party software
like winamp w/ Ipod plugin

ziadel 01-07-2006 09:14 PM

I dont want Itunes..
I just want to use it as a storage device..

alpha phi 01-07-2006 09:32 PM

http://h1.ripway.com/cammonroe/iPod.zip

the only thing I can think of is try a different set of drivers above
have you tried to use the add new hardware from the control panel?
Are you using 98 or 98SE?

If you have win2000 you could partition part of your HD
for 2000 and leave the rest 98

ziadel 01-07-2006 09:36 PM

windows 98 SE

alpha phi 01-07-2006 10:01 PM

Have you formated your ipod on a win XP/2000 computer?
http://www.geocities.com/mmcfly8888/
That is needed to make the file system
win 98 or ME will recognize

Hardknock 01-07-2006 11:44 PM

Split up the partitions on your drive and install both OS's

Martian 01-07-2006 11:58 PM

Dude, X-Wing and TIE Fighter are DOS games. If that's all that's holding you back, just upgrade and use DOSBox to play those two games. Or get the updated versions (you can get them in a box set with X-Wing : Alliance) and you're off to the races.

Windows 98 implementation of USB is broken, only marginally better than the than the Win95 OSR 2 implementation (which barely worked). You're going to have a hard time getting it all to work smoothly that way.

Leto 01-08-2006 04:48 AM

well. there's the cost of changing too. I have a 98 machine, and an xp, but i just got the xp under duress. I didn't want to pay just to get the new OS.


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