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Old 09-27-2005, 07:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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XP sp2 and msn - deleting my mp3s! help!!

tonight,
while i was in msn, my gf sent me a mp3 song.
i got the message: "this file is potentialy harmful to your system..." and i clicked "ok" which was the only option...

and it DELETED THE SONG! i mean not in the folder, not anywhere onthe ssystem. then i found out its a sp2 feature. WTF?!?!?!

anyways, my question is: how do i dissable this horrible feature?!

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Old 09-28-2005, 05:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I hate the security center, I shut it off on most machines pretty much as soon as I get SP2 installed.

In the Control Panel try opening up security center and then clicking the link for Change how Security Center alerts me, uncheck Firewall. Now go back to the Control Panel and open up the Windows Firewall setting and turn the damned thing off, it's about 99.99999999% fucking worthless anyway (as are most software firewalls btw).

If that doesn't fix it your Anti-Virus may have found something in the file that it didn't like :P but I wouldn't imagine Security Center would be the one to flag that.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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well i just tried it again after a really long time and it does it again.



how the fuck can i stop this thing? has anyone encountered this before?

i'm using MSN7 and servicepack2 on xp pro. and these are simple mp3s. not harmful in any ways!

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Old 01-28-2006, 12:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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it must be something on my computer. did anyone ever see this before? overall, i'm running Zonealarm and AVG. would this affect it?
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Old 01-28-2006, 12:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I run xp sp2 and have used msn messanger to send mp3 files. I've never seen such a message.

Weird.
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Old 01-28-2006, 12:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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I run xp sp2 and have used msn messanger to send mp3 files. I've never seen such a message.

Weird.
ya for sure! once i click OK, they dissapear from my computer like they were never there. so everytime, i have to go in my received files, copy and paste the mp3 and then click ok.
it's retarded.
and then when i read the help, they say: if a file was blocked, find it and rightclick, click unblock. it's GONE! how can i do that? fucking microsoft!
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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liquidlight - There are a lot of good software firewalls out there; they give you much better control over outgoing connections then a typical NAT or SPI firewall. I personally use a router with SPI built-in, in addition to a software firewall running on my local machine. The two in combination is pretty much the best protection you can get.

In terms of the Windows firewall, though, it is absolute garbage; it's basically just a packet filter.

Also, this is not an AV issue; AVG and any other anti-virus I've seen have their own alert boxes and don't use XP-style ones.

On to the issue at hand, the problem is definitely to do with the security centre (man, do I hate the Microsoft philosophy of protecting users from themselves...). To disable the alerts (and file blocking), do the following :

Open up the Security Center in your Control Panel.
Click the button under Resources labelled "Change the way Security Center alerts me".
In the Alert Settings box, remove the check marks. I'd say just take them all out, given that you have third party security solutions running.

After that, you should be golden.

I've never heard of malicious content being stored in an mp3 file.. it's just a container file, it can't be used to run code on your system or anything. Then again, Microsoft isn't often logical about these things.. that's why you'll only get me to upgrade to XP when you pry my copy of 2k from my cold, dead hands.
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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After changing the settings, if it still farks your transfer you might also try having your girlfriend rename the file. Change the extension to .txt. When you get it, just rename the file to mp3.
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Despite the message, it isn't Windows, it's MSN. (Shades of AOL?) MSN file transfer protection. In this case better known as another WMA marketing tool.

Patches will turn up with google.
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yes, my thoughts too. MSN has AIMized itself. sad, so sad..
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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How blocking some attachments helps protect your computerSending and reading e-mail is one of the most popular activities on the Internet. The widespread use of this technology, however, makes it a primary way for computer viruses to spread. Because viruses and other security threats are often contained in e-mail attachments, Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) helps protect your computer by blocking e-mail attachments that might be harmful.

In most cases, Windows XP SP2 will block files that have the potential to harm your computer if they come to you through e-mail or other communication programs. Windows will block these files if your program is running in a strong security mode. Most files that contain script or code that could run without your permission will be blocked. Some common examples of this file type are those with file names that end in .exe, .bat, and .js.

Blocking these files is very important to do, since directly opening files of this type poses a risk to your computer and personal data.

Is there any way I can open files that have been blocked?

If you are certain that you trust this file and want to open it, follow the instructions below.

Save the file onto your computer.
Click Start, click My Computer, and navigate to the file that you saved.
Right-click the file that you saved, and then click Properties.
Click Unblock near the bottom of the dialog box.
this does nothing. the file is completely removed from the computer.
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Did you patch MSN yet? I'm cooking right now but can google a couple if they aren't showing for you.
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Old 02-18-2006, 06:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Did you patch MSN yet? I'm cooking right now but can google a couple if they aren't showing for you.
ya, i looked and since i have a new version, the patches didnt work(probably found an old one. ). i'm not in too much of a hurry to get this but why am I the only one here with this problem? on my other computer, i installed it(msn 7.5--same as this computer) and it didnt do this problem. all my friends with msn dont get this problem. it's FUCKING retarded!
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Old 02-18-2006, 10:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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why don't you just have her email the file to you?
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Old 02-19-2006, 02:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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why don't you just have her email the file to you?
not being able to open the file in MSN is the problem. they have a file transfer in the program and i want to send and receive mp3s. now when i can't do what i want to do, then it fucking pisses me off.

so i try to find the way to get arround this. just like most ppl will look around the room for the remote intead of just pushing the button on the TV. theres a reason we have remotes right? so why use the fucking tv buttons?
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Old 02-19-2006, 06:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It's an MSN problem. Call MSN. Ask them how to work around the problem. If you get their "it's for your safety" line, let them know you're even safer if you stay off-line (as in cancel service). Ask for a supervisor, etc. They may have a solution that's better than changing the file suffix.

What services do they provide? Why are you paying them?

You can probably find a patch for the new version, or at least downgrade to the previous version and patch it, but you'll be forever chasing your tail as they modify their code. Blocking mp3's is a fairly outrageous feature and they need to stop the practice or provide a workaround.
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Old 02-19-2006, 06:26 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Sounds like you are refering to MSN Messenger 7, because the newest MSN Internet Service is MSN 9. Try using a multiple chat client, maybe it'll work for you. Like Trillian or another program......
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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It's an MSN problem. Call MSN. Ask them how to work around the problem. If you get their "it's for your safety" line, let them know you're even safer if you stay off-line (as in cancel service). Ask for a supervisor, etc. They may have a solution that's better than changing the file suffix.

What services do they provide? Why are you paying them?

You can probably find a patch for the new version, or at least downgrade to the previous version and patch it, but you'll be forever chasing your tail as they modify their code. Blocking mp3's is a fairly outrageous feature and they need to stop the practice or provide a workaround.
oh well I do not pay for this service. It's just msn\hotmail that i use. if they make it a pay only site, i'm gone. i do not want to be part of that shit.
and the more i think about it, the more i want to leave msn. it's fucking retarded. i'll try installing trillian back tonight i guess. i just stoped using it last time because most of the emoicons ppl send me werent in trillian so it's confusing when most ppl use strickly icons.

oh well, i'll come back to this thread if i have more information on the whole situation.
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Old 02-20-2006, 06:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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On a related issue, does anyone here know what ports to open would make msn messenger file transfer faster?
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