guthmund

Well, it's official.

Longhorn has no been renamed Windows Vista

Not really all that much to say other than...

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I guess the question is, what's the point? From what I've read they've gutted most of the interesting features such as the new file system. I mean, one of the biggest arguments for switching from 98 to XP was the NTFS file system which is more stable and more secure.

Aside from the techno-geeks who just have to have their hands on every new thing that comes out the door, what purpose would the casual user need to justify buying a whole new operating system?

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bendsley

buy an operating system? blasphemy!

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wdevauld

None. But what will happen is that the newest DirectX or WindowsMediaPlayer will not work on XP, and you will need it to watch the newest movie (with DRM) or play the shiniest new video game.

This isn't new, Micro$oft has been making money for years off the upgrade market. Why would you need Office XP when the older versions still worked. Because, one of your friends/aquaintences/business partners upgraded and you needed the new version to open their files. You needed the new operating system to support the new software.

It's a vicious circle.

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Silverbrain

I'm hearing that a rebuild from scratch will take 15 minutes...great for techs. It will be able to use the new hybrid hard drives...great for laptops...thats all that i know thats fun..

vista defined : A distant view or prospect

Marketing knows how far off in the distance this OS is...timewise...and jabs the programmers )

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feelgood

Hasta la Vista!

Oh right, not that kind of vista eh?

FYI, Longhorn was never gonna be the offical name of the next Windows OS. Although, it would've been nice to post something about the OS instead of a news report about its new name.

Here's some articles for those of you who are looking for some quickie on Vista

Candy eyes I get the feeling its a fake
Wikipedia info

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guthmund

No doubt. I should've said 'been officially named as,' but, hey, what can you do, eh?

I would like to see something official about the actual operating system. So far, I've found nothing but loads of speculation and whole lot of fancy names and acronyms that may or may not be in the final build. Screenshots are nice, but they can be easily faked. Articles are nice, but who can tell what's solid fact and what's speculation?

I can't find anything 'official' except a few press releases and internet blurbs from folks in the company, but it's filled with a lot of corporate doublespeak and mindless droning.

Really!?! How, pray tell, does it do that?

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feelgood

Typical of Microsoft

I've always thought "pre-releasing" operating systems was kinda similar to gaming or the entertainment industry, only this time, think of it as a poster that has no picture, just mere words. Guess we're gonna have to wait until August to find out.

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bendsley

Link to the site on microsoft if anyone cares.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx

How much have you heard about Windows 2003 Server R2? Not much I imagine. I'm beta testing it right now on a server up at work and have noticed quite a few improvements to it. You're not hearing a lot about it because MS makes their testers sign NDAs. I have no doubt that Vista testing will be much the same way.

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guthmund

Again, no doubt about it, but wouldn't you think if something was particularly noteworthy, they'd want to mention it? Build up some word of mouth action?

It seems like an odd way to push a project. Unless...it really is crap, which means they don't want anyone to know anything of substance about the new OS to hoodwink an unsuspecting public.

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cyrnel

Just had to post this from author unknown:

Vista as an acronym:
Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans, Adware

Only thing not covered is exorbitant licensing fees.

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vox_rox

Longhorn, Vista, working title, real name, none of it matters. But don't think there are not huge changes coming down the pipe in this release.

This OS release will mark the first level of "trusted computing" that is completely intergrated into the OS. DRM and upgrades controlled from the vendor will be the biggest and most obvious changes, and the ability to do whatever you want with your computer will be practically gone.

The next step will be leasing the M$ software and it will come bundled the the ability for the vendor (of ANY software, not just M$), to disable software remotely if your copy of the software is illegal (fair enough) or if you haven't chosen an arbitrary update path (goddam extortion), or if THEY have found content on your computer that THEY deem to be copyright violations (invasion of privacy).

This new OS is not going to be bigger, better, or easier to use. It's going to position your computer as a licensed, third-party entertainment/computing device in your home, and you'll have little or no control over content, even the content THAT YOU CREATE.

It's bad, it's dangerous, and it will affect you. I would say switch to an open source alterntative, but that would be contrary to the ideas in this thread. What I will say is that proprietary software is becoming more and more a control concept rather than vendors giving you tools to do what you want/need to do, and I for one do not like the direction that it's going.

Peace,

Pierre

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