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Bratwurst 04-21-2005 11:52 AM

Quick Serial ATA question
 
Looking at Newegg for a bunch of SATA drives. I'm actually going to put together a SAN using 12 of them in a chassis that does RAID 5 with SATA.

So I am looking and I see SATA II and SATA 150. I know what the 150 is, but I havne't seen SATA II before. Can someone explain the difference?

I going to buy 400 GB drives which they I don't see in SATA II anyway, but I just want to try to learn the difference just so I know for the future.

Thanks!

liquidlight 04-21-2005 12:03 PM

Have I got my math right here. . . you're building a 3.2 TB RAID 5 SAN?? Jeez. . . that's some serious storage.

Bratwurst 04-21-2005 12:42 PM

This is what I am using as a chassis. I was going to use 16x 250 GB drives, but I decided to go with 12x 400GB drives and then have space left for expansion.

http://www.scsi4me.com/?menu=menu_sp...ena_SA8600.htm

SiN 04-21-2005 12:45 PM

This thread is GeekPorn™

:D

Bratwurst 04-21-2005 12:47 PM

Hilarious. Yes this is true. I'm actually using this as backup storage.

liquidlight 04-21-2005 12:52 PM

Don't tell me that this is just for your personal use?

Bratwurst 04-21-2005 12:52 PM

No, its for work.

Anyone know the SATA answer?

bendsley 04-21-2005 01:36 PM

Sata II drives start at 300mb/s transfer rate. Sata150 is 150mb/s transfer rate.

Over that many drives, I would tell you to consifer RAID 50 or RAID 10 over plain RAID 5.

See link below for explanation.
http://www.acnc.com/04_01_50.html RAID 50 link.
http://www.acnc.com/04_01_10.html RAID 10 link.

Bratwurst 04-21-2005 01:51 PM

Raid 10 I would lose half of my drives, I think the fault tolerance in Raid 5 will be enough.

jonjon42 04-21-2005 05:31 PM

never can be too careful...(put your tinfoil hat back on)

I would of course make due with a backup server like that....

sorry about the drool...

Dilbert1234567 04-21-2005 08:57 PM

well if you have that many drives the chance that 2 will die close to gether is prety high. good luck with it though.

Bratwurst 04-21-2005 08:59 PM

It will have three different arrays going though, so I still will have some good fault tolerance.

bendsley 04-22-2005 07:40 AM

Just remember that RAID 5 is to protect against mainly 1 drive failing at any given time, for the array to just be degraded. I would tell you to break up that many drives into severaly RAID 5 arrays. Don't put that many drives to a single RAID 5 array. You would be asking for trouble.

Also, remember to have a hot spare or two available incase something happens, you can easily implement it.

As always, tape backup is still a good idea to do nightly.
I'm just giving suggestions. We have a Sun StorEdge 6130 Array that I maintain among other things. It scales from 5 to 112 drives (365GB to 41.2TB). I just don't want you to think I'm just throwing you suggestions and not know what I'm talking about.

Bratwurst 04-22-2005 07:47 AM

Well I was going to make 3 Raid 5 arrays, 4 drives each. I'll have room to add one more array of another 4 drives if I need to add space later.

bendsley 04-22-2005 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratwurst
Well I was going to make 3 Raid 5 arrays, 4 drives each. I'll have room to add one more array of another 4 drives if I need to add space later.

Sounds good then.


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