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Coppertop · 11-12-2004, 01:00 PM

Ok this is going to make me look retarded but here goes:

I recently bought a new motherboard: Asus P4S800-MX. Ever since I've been having trouble with my video card. I get vertical yellow and blue bands on my screen sometimes. Sometimes it locks up. My video card when this all started was an ATI Radeon 9700 All In Wonder. When I swap in my ELSA Gladiac 920 everything works fine. I put in a friend's nVidia Geforce 4 (I forget the exact model) and problems occur similar to when I have the ATI in.

With the ATI I had the latest drivers as well as the latest version of .Net framework (as recommended to install on ATI's website). When I put the ELSA in I did not install any drivers yet it works perfectly fine. The nVidia gives me the same problems as the ATI and I have yet to install any drivers for that.

Now, I need this machine for gaming so having the best video card is very necessary. I want to avoid buying a new card entirely if at all possible.

Now, the retarded part - I am not positive if when I got the new mobo I installed the AGP drivers from the system disc that came with it. It's possible I just installed drivers for the integrated VGA. Is this the likely culprit? I am at work now and won't be home until the wee hours but I am just curious as to what others think about this. I hope this is the problem as it can be fixed with ease, even though my ego won't be!

Thanks in advance for any help.

bal8664 · 11-12-2004, 01:26 PM

This motherboard is based off the SIS 661FX Chipset. You may not have installed SIS's AGP drivers. I would first make sure that you remove any videocard drivers, then go to

http://download.sis.com/

Download the drivers for The Agp. Its listed under chipset.

The reason it may not be happening with the ELSA Gladiac 920 is because its only a 2x/4x AGp card, whereas the Radeon 9700 All in Wonder is an 8x card. Hopefully this solves your problem! Keep us posted

Coppertop · 11-12-2004, 02:06 PM

Thanks bal8664, I'll try this out when I get home and post the results.

Coppertop · 11-14-2004, 12:50 PM

Ok the solution presented above did not solve the problem. Upon reading my mobo manual I notice that it tells me that my mobo will only support 1.5V AGP cards. It specifically mentions that it does not support 3.3V AGP cards. I'm thinking tha the two cards that do not work may be 3.3V cards. I have looked online but cannot seem to find out what these cards voltages are. Can anyone help with this? Thanks again for any and all input.

arch13 · 11-14-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop

Ok the solution presented above did not solve the problem. Upon reading my mobo manual I notice that it tells me that my mobo will only support 1.5V AGP cards. It specifically mentions that it does not support 3.3V AGP cards. I'm thinking tha the two cards that do not work may be 3.3V cards. I have looked online but cannot seem to find out what these cards voltages are. Can anyone help with this? Thanks again for any and all input.

Hmmm, think I found it for you Coppertop.

Quote:

* All 8x cards are 0.8v AGP 3.0 spec
* 8x cards will fit in 1.5V slots, and can tolerate the voltage, but will NOT run properly
* 4x cards can be either 1.5V or 0.8V
* 2x and 1x cards are either 3.3V or 1.5V
* Except in the case of the 8X cards, using the wrong voltage card with the wrong motherboard can result in damage in card and board
* If you install a card of incompatible voltages with the motherboard's specs, the card will NOT run

The connectors on AGP video cards are keyed in such a way that you can only install equipment that have compatible Voltage keyed connectors. Normally the key of the card determines its signal voltage. AGP 1.0 and AGP 2.0 cards using a 1.5V key will signal at 1.5 volts. However, AGP 3.0 devices can tolerate 1.5V - they won't be destroyed, they just might not work properly.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/faqs/kb/10,63.html

Hope that helps. check what voltage bios is currenty feeding the agp bus (most Ami bios's are changeable)

Coppertop · 11-22-2004, 08:32 PM

Well, my friend took my 9700 and bought me a 9800. All problems fixed. Thanks for the input everyone.

11-12-2004, 01:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Motherboard situation Ok this is going to make me look retarded but here goes: I recently bought a new motherboard: Asus P4S800-MX. Ever since I've been having trouble with my video card. I get vertical yellow and blue bands on my screen sometimes. Sometimes it locks up. My video card when this all started was an ATI Radeon 9700 All In Wonder. When I swap in my ELSA Gladiac 920 everything works fine. I put in a friend's nVidia Geforce 4 (I forget the exact model) and problems occur similar to when I have the ATI in. With the ATI I had the latest drivers as well as the latest version of .Net framework (as recommended to install on ATI's website). When I put the ELSA in I did not install any drivers yet it works perfectly fine. The nVidia gives me the same problems as the ATI and I have yet to install any drivers for that. Now, I need this machine for gaming so having the best video card is very necessary. I want to avoid buying a new card entirely if at all possible. Now, the retarded part - I am not positive if when I got the new mobo I installed the AGP drivers from the system disc that came with it. It's possible I just installed drivers for the integrated VGA. Is this the likely culprit? I am at work now and won't be home until the wee hours but I am just curious as to what others think about this. I hope this is the problem as it can be fixed with ease, even though my ego won't be! Thanks in advance for any help.

11-12-2004, 01:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
bal8664 Crazy Location: Rochester, NY	This motherboard is based off the SIS 661FX Chipset. You may not have installed SIS's AGP drivers. I would first make sure that you remove any videocard drivers, then go to http://download.sis.com/ Download the drivers for The Agp. Its listed under chipset. The reason it may not be happening with the ELSA Gladiac 920 is because its only a 2x/4x AGp card, whereas the Radeon 9700 All in Wonder is an 8x card. Hopefully this solves your problem! Keep us posted

11-12-2004, 02:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Thanks bal8664, I'll try this out when I get home and post the results.

11-14-2004, 12:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Ok the solution presented above did not solve the problem. Upon reading my mobo manual I notice that it tells me that my mobo will only support 1.5V AGP cards. It specifically mentions that it does not support 3.3V AGP cards. I'm thinking tha the two cards that do not work may be 3.3V cards. I have looked online but cannot seem to find out what these cards voltages are. Can anyone help with this? Thanks again for any and all input.

11-22-2004, 08:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Well, my friend took my 9700 and bought me a 9800. All problems fixed. Thanks for the input everyone.