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05-01-2003 01:50 PM

How is this PC?
 
Pentium 4 2.66Ghz
Corsair XMS PC2700LL 512MB (black heatspreader)
Asus P4PE Black Pearl (black)

Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB (black)
Sound Blaster Audigy II (black)
Diamond v.92 56K Modem
Onboard Broadcom 10/100 Ethernet

Western Digital 80GB SE
Lite-On 52x CD-RW (black)
Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM (black)
1.44MB Floppy (black)

ThermalTake Xaser II Tower (black)
Vantec 420w Power Suppy (black)

Rounded Cables (black)

Logitech Elite Keyboard (black)
Logitech MX500 Mouse (some black)

Klipsch Promedia 5.1 (black)
NEC AG 19" Monitor (black)

Windows XP Home

For 2,400

The_Dude 05-01-2003 02:08 PM

i dont know if i'd pay that much.

i'd personally pay about 15-1700 for a pc like that.

but you can prolly build one for cheaper than that.

Dilbert1234567 05-01-2003 03:20 PM

Pentium 4 2.66Ghz $203
Corsair XMS PC2700LL 512MB (black heatspreader) $55
Asus P4PE Black Pearl (black) $137

Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB (black) $156
Sound Blaster Audigy II (black) $220
Diamond v.92 56K Modem $16
Onboard Broadcom 10/100 Ethernet

Western Digital 80GB SE $90
Lite-On 52x CD-RW (black) $32
Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM (black) $40
1.44MB Floppy (black) $10

ThermalTake Xaser II Tower (black) $100
Vantec 420w Power Suppy (black) $88

Rounded Cables (black) $10

Logitech Elite Keyboard (black) $30
Logitech MX500 Mouse (some black) $40

Klipsch Promedia 5.1 (black) $250 (jesus)
NEC AG 19" Monitor (black) $250

Windows XP Home $100

For 2,400 total $1827


(does this include a $573 BJ?, instelation and assembly should not be $573)

its a nice system but a bad deal

05-01-2003 03:43 PM

1 Year Warranty.

Where did you get those prices? I cant believe the difference in price. Thanks for that it seems I would have made a bad decision.

kidd 05-01-2003 05:54 PM

You can check out prices of individual parts at PriceWatch.com

The_Dude 05-01-2003 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by teon
1 Year Warranty.

Where did you get those prices? I cant believe the difference in price. Thanks for that it seems I would have made a bad decision.

if you buy retail parts, you normally get 3 yr warranty's.

05-01-2003 06:54 PM

Damn. Should I hyperthread PIV and get RDRAM?

The_Dude 05-01-2003 08:01 PM

whatever you do dont get rambus.

cheese 05-01-2003 08:19 PM

rambus= evil nice system but 2400 is way to much build it your self save the $500 mabey go / a diff case tho if you got the $ to spare buy a lian aluminim case they are sooo nice

hammer4all 05-01-2003 11:51 PM

Intel CPUs are over-hyped and overpriced. Get an Athlon XP 2600+ or 2700+ and a motherboard with the nForce 2 chipset for equal or better performance.

05-02-2003 08:54 AM

Well I like the case, so I am defintely keeping that. But I was also thinking about switching to AMD, since P4 seems to be the worse product.

nForce2 chipset?

termnl 05-02-2003 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by teon
Well I like the case, so I am defintely keeping that. But I was also thinking about switching to AMD, since P4 seems to be the worse product.

nForce2 chipset?

Intel is not worse....just more expensive.

Nforce2 = dual channel ddr, dsp & dual mac built into south bridge (6 chan audio + dual ethernet), plus a variety of technical tidbits....read an article.

You will save a lot of money for the same performance with AMD. But a top-end Intel system (using Intels latest stuff)will usually outperform a top-end AMD.

Dilbert1234567 05-02-2003 12:08 PM

the new 800mhz FSB P4's kick all the athlon asses

and they are masivly ovewrclockible with there low multiplier
3.0 ghz with only a 15x multiplier

when i get mine ill giv yal a full report on it

termnl 05-02-2003 02:18 PM

Yea...those are awesome chips.

I dont know, though, if the extra $200 is worth it over the XP 3000.

For sure, let us know how it is.

hammer4all 05-02-2003 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by teon
nForce2 chipset?
Yeah, the nForce2 is currently the best chipset for an AMD platform.
http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1759&p=1

FYI, AMD is about to increase the FSB to 400MHz in the first half of this month with the release of the Athlon XP 3200+.
http://news.com.com/2100-1006-998947.html?tag=fd_top

Nomad 05-03-2003 12:47 PM

Check out this forum to find some good deals on all of your needs.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/categories.cfm?catid=18

chaosedge23 05-03-2003 07:36 PM

Nice system. Though I would consider one of the new Shuttle XPC systems. Look at newegg -> barebone systems -> shuttle -> and the last system. Tell me that ain't sweet.
Audigy is overrated imho. Save yourself a couple of bucks. Corsairs good but prefer the cheaper Crucial unless you plan to overclock.

The barebone systems got the most amazing heatsink i've ever seen. I built one last night for a friend. Building another one for another next week. Cost of system - (amd 2200+ 1 gig ram) is a little over 400. he has some spare parts lying around. The sk41g has a 60 rebate at newegg.

05-06-2003 06:36 PM

Could you link me to that as I could not find this "barebone" you speak of?

limited 05-07-2003 08:14 PM

I really hate it when people quote Pricewatch prices. It completely ignores the reputation of the merchant not to mention any shipping or tax that may be included. Price all the parts out from a store like newegg.com or mwave.com and then look at the price difference to get a good idea of the type of deal youre getting. Also consider if this computer comes with 24-hr real live tech support and wheter or not you'll actually use it.

Konichiwaneko 05-07-2003 08:55 PM

The P4PE is a great board, but on a dated chipset.

The 845 chipset, though spectacular, is on it's last leg.

Recently the 875 Chipset came out, and with boards like the Asus pc800 and my person favorite, the IC7 from Abit...you will get more bang for you buck going wiht a canterwood (875)

Intels cost more, but you get a lot of usual features that may not be available to amd like :

- hyper threading (it makes a massive differences, with it I encode Divx's at 82fps, compared to 60 with it disabled)

- Thermal Throttling. If you cpu gets hot, or the heatsink fan dies, your p4 will begin to throttle down it's speed until it get's back into proper temp ranges. This prevents burn up of the chip (common with AMD) while also giving you more uptime (important in a server environment).

-Advance Instructions sets like..shit I forgot the acronym. Basically instructions encoded into the core to speed certain applications. Mind you Amd also has things like 3Dnow, but Intel tends to have a higher amount. Because of Intels voice in the community, companies follow. I personally remember after intel released the p3, Adobe released a patch for the new cpu and some things were 40% faster.


Now mind you, I'm not wanting to start a flame war..far from that. Yet I can't escape the ubiquitous car analogies when talking about computers. Athlon is like toyota camry V6, while intel is like a lexus Es300. Both drive, both have the same speed, but Intel has more features thus a higher price tag. The most important thing though is both work, and work great. (For you American or European car lovers, replace analogy with comparable models.)

Me personally, I have both machines, but I do everything on my p4, cause I work photoshop.

Hope this helps man, ditch the p4pe and grab an IC7.

The corsair would rule on the 875 chipset.

FuddMan 05-25-2003 06:18 PM

Promedia 5.1!!! so nice...


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