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Smackre · 05-22-2009, 08:16 PM

So I have been looking at HDTV's and Im wanting to get a 40" or 42".

And Ive noticed some have 60hz refresh rate and then there is some 120hz. How much of a diffrence will that make?

Also has anyone picked up a referbed LCD from newegg? Is there nething I should look out for?

Im mostly going to use it for HD TV and movies. No real video games or nething.

Once in awhile ill hook my computer up to it.

I am hoping to send about 700$.

So far im mostly looking at:

Samsung LN40A550 40" 1080p LCD HDTV TV - eBay (item 370204460608 end time May-27-09 14:55:20 PDT)

And :

Newegg.com - Recertified: TOSHIBA REGZA 40" 1080p Full HD LCDTV w/ CineSpeed - 40RF350U

Willravel · 05-22-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Smackre

And Ive noticed some have 60hz refresh rate and then there is some 120hz. How much of a difference will that make?

Theoretically the refresh rate is about motion blur, but I've never been able to tell the difference. I was in the market to replace my plasma about 6 months back or so and I must have looked at a dozen different tvs with different refresh rates and I couldn't tell with my naked eyes. Just my take.

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Originally Posted by Smackre

So far im mostly looking at:

Samsung LN40A550 40" 1080p LCD HDTV TV - eBay (item 370204460608 end time May-27-09 14:55:20 PDT)

And :

Newegg.com - Recertified: TOSHIBA REGZA 40" 1080p Full HD LCDTV w/ CineSpeed - 40RF350U

I never considered getting one from eBay or one that's recertified, mostly because they seem like they might be gambles. The best in your price range is probably the Samsung LN40A550. Right now it's in the $900 on Amazon.com, but the price should drop down before too long. Last year it was in the $750 range, iirc. It's a fantastic TV, great bargain and good performer.

Taja · 05-22-2009, 08:42 PM

I've been shopping LCD's recently, and see that Bestbuy has some 40-42" for under $700. Hope that helps.

Lasereth · 05-23-2009, 07:57 PM

I actually have the LN40A550 and it is a fucking excellent TV. Buy it, you won't be disappointed.

Willravel · 05-23-2009, 08:03 PM

Maybe we should make an LCD buyer's guide!

Redjake · 05-24-2009, 07:56 AM

I can tell a huge difference between 60 and 120 hz. the 120 hz seems like a faster frame rate, it's very weird. I prefer 60 over 120.

Lasereth · 05-24-2009, 08:15 AM

BTW the LN40A550 was $1,300 for most of last year. I got it on sale at Circuit City last November for $999 which was an absolute bargain considering everywhere else on the Interwebs had it for bare minimum $1200.

Smackre · 05-25-2009, 01:26 AM

What do you guys think of this LCD?

Seems like a good price. I can get it for 750$ and 50$ off because of cash back from my card. I can also do a instore pickup to save on shipping.

Toshiba - 40" Class / 1080p / 60Hz / LCD HDTV - 40RV525U

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Also whats the dead pixel policy on Sony / Toshiba / Samsung. I have herd some of have a no dead pixel policy and some say its gotta be in the sweet area to matter

Lasereth · 05-25-2009, 07:44 AM

Just take it back if it has dead pixels.

That seems to be a good TV but I don't see any sort of "picture engine" in it which is typically what makes standard def stuff to look decent on an LCD. I bought a $700 Dynex 42" 1080p LCD from Best Buy and took it back 3 weeks later because TV looked like hammered shit on it. It had no image engine on it. The LN40A550 has DNIe (Dynamic Natural Image engine) and that basically stands for "making TV look good on an LCD."

Smackre · 05-25-2009, 12:30 PM

Neone know if this tv has a picture engine? I cant find nething about it having one.

Newegg.com - Recertified: TOSHIBA REGZA 40" 1080p Full HD LCDTV w/ CineSpeed - 40RF350U

Wrexify · 05-26-2009, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Redjake

I can tell a huge difference between 60 and 120 hz. the 120 hz seems like a faster frame rate, it's very weird. I prefer 60 over 120.

Agreed. 120hz makes it look like the picture is in a weird half fast-forward kind of playback mode. It's supposed to be good for fast action at high resolutions, but I think it just makes most TV/movies look somehow out of sync.

Smackre · 05-26-2009, 10:20 AM

is "PixelPure 3G 14-Bit Internal Digital Video Processing" a picture engine?

Redjake · 05-26-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Smackre

is "PixelPure 3G 14-Bit Internal Digital Video Processing" a picture engine?

Yes

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Originally Posted by Wrexify

Agreed. 120hz makes it look like the picture is in a weird half fast-forward kind of playback mode. It's supposed to be good for fast action at high resolutions, but I think it just makes most TV/movies look somehow out of sync.

A lot of people can't tell the difference for some reason. I can't see how, it looks just like you said - like the picture is "sort of fast forwarded but not." Really awkward. It makes CG or special effects look horrible too.

Smackre · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

I think I am going to go with this one.

Sony - BRAVIA / 40" Class / 1080p / 60Hz / LCD HDTV - KDL-40V4100

I seen the a 46" one of these in a store and it looks pretty nice.

jewels · 05-27-2009, 03:20 AM

I just bought that Sony this weekend 'cause I got a killer price on it. Excellent TV!

Lasereth · 05-27-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Smackre

I think I am going to go with this one.

Sony - BRAVIA / 40" Class / 1080p / 60Hz / LCD HDTV - KDL-40V4100

I seen the a 46" one of these in a store and it looks pretty nice.

Holy moly now that is a deal.

Smackre · 05-27-2009, 10:59 AM

Ordered it today. Gotta drive a hour to get it at a diffrent bestbuy. But it saved on shipping so. Also got 10% off because my card has cash back. Ended up being about 770$. Hopefully it turns out to be a good tv

Willravel · 05-27-2009, 11:20 AM

Agreed, that's a great deal.

Smackre · 05-27-2009, 06:34 PM

Well got the tv all setup. pretty sweet. how much heat does a LCD put off compared to say like a projection LCD tv? It seems to have some heat coming out the back but not alot. My old projection seemed to put off alot more heat. Thats one reason I upgraded. I am putting this in a 14'X14' room and the AC in that room aint very good so my old projection heated the room up alittle.

Redjake · 05-28-2009, 08:40 AM

My LCD HDTV puts off a lot of heat in the front, not the back. We actually run it during the winter to warm the living room, no joke.

Smackre · 05-29-2009, 12:10 PM

This thing doesnt put off much heat at all. My old projection would take the room from 70 to 80. Right now the rooms sitting at 68 and not going up. I will say the SD stuff looked better on my projection tv. But the HD stuff looks better on this.

Runningwater · 05-29-2009, 12:24 PM

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My LCD HDTV puts off a lot of heat in the front, not the back. We actually run it during the winter to warm the living room, no joke.

No joke. We about do the same thing - that TV stays extremely warm in the front. While playing Wii fit I get sweaty just starting it up!

Smackre · 05-29-2009, 10:08 PM

so i wanted to see some 1080 stuff. So i rented a 1080p movie on dish network ppv. And some reason the sound does not work. neone else have this issue. the picture looks great but no sound. once in a blue moon a second of sound will come on but then no sound for about a minute.

05-22-2009, 08:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	HDTV LCD TV's So I have been looking at HDTV's and Im wanting to get a 40" or 42". And Ive noticed some have 60hz refresh rate and then there is some 120hz. How much of a diffrence will that make? Also has anyone picked up a referbed LCD from newegg? Is there nething I should look out for? Im mostly going to use it for HD TV and movies. No real video games or nething. Once in awhile ill hook my computer up to it. I am hoping to send about 700$. So far im mostly looking at: Samsung LN40A550 40" 1080p LCD HDTV TV - eBay (item 370204460608 end time May-27-09 14:55:20 PDT) And : Newegg.com - Recertified: TOSHIBA REGZA 40" 1080p Full HD LCDTV w/ CineSpeed - 40RF350U __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-22-2009, 08:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Taja Bent Moderator Emeritus Location: Scaling Half Dome	I've been shopping LCD's recently, and see that Bestbuy has some 40-42" for under $700. Hope that helps. __________________ I fear neither death nor pain. What do you fear milady? A cage.

05-23-2009, 07:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I actually have the LN40A550 and it is a fucking excellent TV. Buy it, you won't be disappointed. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

05-24-2009, 08:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	BTW the LN40A550 was $1,300 for most of last year. I got it on sale at Circuit City last November for $999 which was an absolute bargain considering everywhere else on the Interwebs had it for bare minimum $1200. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

05-25-2009, 01:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	What do you guys think of this LCD? Seems like a good price. I can get it for 750$ and 50$ off because of cash back from my card. I can also do a instore pickup to save on shipping. Toshiba - 40" Class / 1080p / 60Hz / LCD HDTV - 40RV525U ---------- Post added at 09:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:59 AM ---------- Also whats the dead pixel policy on Sony / Toshiba / Samsung. I have herd some of have a no dead pixel policy and some say its gotta be in the sweet area to matter __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-23-2009, 08:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Maybe we should make an LCD buyer's guide!

05-24-2009, 07:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	I can tell a huge difference between 60 and 120 hz. the 120 hz seems like a faster frame rate, it's very weird. I prefer 60 over 120.

05-25-2009, 07:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Just take it back if it has dead pixels. That seems to be a good TV but I don't see any sort of "picture engine" in it which is typically what makes standard def stuff to look decent on an LCD. I bought a $700 Dynex 42" 1080p LCD from Best Buy and took it back 3 weeks later because TV looked like hammered shit on it. It had no image engine on it. The LN40A550 has DNIe (Dynamic Natural Image engine) and that basically stands for "making TV look good on an LCD." __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

05-25-2009, 12:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	Neone know if this tv has a picture engine? I cant find nething about it having one. Newegg.com - Recertified: TOSHIBA REGZA 40" 1080p Full HD LCDTV w/ CineSpeed - 40RF350U __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-26-2009, 10:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	is "PixelPure 3G 14-Bit Internal Digital Video Processing" a picture engine? __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-26-2009, 10:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	I think I am going to go with this one. Sony - BRAVIA / 40" Class / 1080p / 60Hz / LCD HDTV - KDL-40V4100 I seen the a 46" one of these in a store and it looks pretty nice. __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-27-2009, 03:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
jewels Eponymous Location: Central Central Florida	I just bought that Sony this weekend 'cause I got a killer price on it. Excellent TV! __________________ We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess. Mark Twain

05-27-2009, 10:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	Ordered it today. Gotta drive a hour to get it at a diffrent bestbuy. But it saved on shipping so. Also got 10% off because my card has cash back. Ended up being about 770$. Hopefully it turns out to be a good tv __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-27-2009, 11:20 AM	#18 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Agreed, that's a great deal.

05-27-2009, 06:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	Well got the tv all setup. pretty sweet. how much heat does a LCD put off compared to say like a projection LCD tv? It seems to have some heat coming out the back but not alot. My old projection seemed to put off alot more heat. Thats one reason I upgraded. I am putting this in a 14'X14' room and the AC in that room aint very good so my old projection heated the room up alittle. __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-28-2009, 08:40 AM	#20 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	My LCD HDTV puts off a lot of heat in the front, not the back. We actually run it during the winter to warm the living room, no joke. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

05-29-2009, 12:10 PM	#21 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	This thing doesnt put off much heat at all. My old projection would take the room from 70 to 80. Right now the rooms sitting at 68 and not going up. I will say the SD stuff looked better on my projection tv. But the HD stuff looks better on this. __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800

05-29-2009, 10:08 PM	#23 (permalink)
Smackre Addict	so i wanted to see some 1080 stuff. So i rented a 1080p movie on dish network ppv. And some reason the sound does not work. neone else have this issue. the picture looks great but no sound. once in a blue moon a second of sound will come on but then no sound for about a minute. __________________ Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730 (1.60 GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen XGA+ Display 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 256MB NVIDA® GeForce™ Go 6800