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Old 05-04-2003, 10:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are there any good women out there?

I'm 20 so essentially I'm just starting out. One day I'll post the entire story of my last relationship - how it ended so crappilly... but today I found out that her "gay" friend that spurred the breakup isn't really gay... when I found them expressing their effection for one another.

I thought she was perfect... the sweetest nicest kindest person that wouldn't hurt anyone. But I was wrong... she did this and blamed me for it. I ask the people of the TFP this:

Are there kind, sweet, caring, loving, intelligent, upstanding, ethical, moral, uplifting, creative, open-minded women out there? Or do I just stay single forever?

I could never have a relationship that I didn't think would last forever. That is a requirement for me... no relationships just for sex or fun here.

Please give me some good news.
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Old 05-04-2003, 10:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The last one just got taken.. I think we're shit out of luck, bro.
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Old 05-04-2003, 11:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-05-2003, 12:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Are there kind, sweet, caring, loving, intelligent, upstanding, ethical, moral, uplifting, creative, open-minded women out there?

If there are any women that fit that description, I've never met one.

Or do I just stay single forever?

Yes
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Are there kind, sweet, caring, loving, intelligent, upstanding, ethical, moral, uplifting, creative, open-minded women out there?

i know one who's everythink listed except open minded...she's a bit naiive/repressed sexually...and though that would drive me nuts, she's the closest match to what you've asked
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Old 05-05-2003, 03:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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dude.. that's like asking for a perfect woman.. I think you'll need to engineer one of them for yourself

I've found my woman, just gotta find your match that's all
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Old 05-05-2003, 05:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Are there any good women out there?

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Are there kind, sweet, caring, loving, intelligent, upstanding, ethical, moral, uplifting, creative, open-minded women out there?
My ex and my current girlfriend fit this description.
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Old 05-05-2003, 05:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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<i>Are there kind, sweet, caring, loving, intelligent, upstanding, ethical, moral, uplifting, creative, open-minded women out there? </i>

Life is about compromise. You will never find a woman with ALL of those qualities. Find yourself a woman that has 4 or 5 out of the 11 qualities you'll be happy for a while!
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Old 05-05-2003, 09:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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pfffft!!! the best you can hope for is the lesser daughter of mephistopholes. fortunately, happiness can still be had even if you end up sacrificing one or two of your aforementioned desired traits. the only thing you absolutely CANNOT do without? mutual unwavering trust. good luck.
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Old 05-05-2003, 10:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yes there are! I believe I fit that description pretty well.
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Of course there are! Sheesh, you are young yet...don't give up!
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:12 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There probably are, I just have to get away from the crazy ones first.
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Is not a matter of finding the flawless women, only finding one with the faults that you can tolerate.
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I know of one. She's pretty much my last hope, otherwise i'm moving to Tibet and becoming a monk.
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Old 05-05-2003, 12:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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there was one once. i think she was trapped in a castle gaurded by dragons. but i'm sure she's dead now. or just really really old.
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Best course of action would be to swear off women and invest in the stock market.. worst comes to worst, you've always got your right hand and a buttered bagel, right?

Thing with these women is they always get involved with some douchebag or just float out of your reach. Don't give up!
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It's all a question of perspective. From the standpoint of someone recently broken-up-with (in what sounds like fairly sketchy circumstances), it's obviously going to look like there are no worthwhile women out there. But that's just what it looks like right now.

I promise, the minute you start to get over what happened, lots and lots of worthwhile romantic opportunities will start to show up. And it'll be an opportunity to get out on a skinny branch again and put yourself on the line again, and MAYBE this time it'll pay off big, or maybe it'll go the way the last one did.

We call this <i>life</i>. This is how it's <i>supposed</i> to go.
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Old 05-05-2003, 03:19 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Sorry, I'm taken

But we do exist.
The trick is don't look for us.
We appear when you're not looking because we like the element of surprise.
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Old 05-05-2003, 04:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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YES, they are out there---however, it took me a while to know who and what I wanted and truly needed...Once that was in place, a miracle happened, called Galaxygirl ( a true gift)!

Keep plugging away! work on yourself and soon enough, I'm sure a special someone will enter your life as well.
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Old 05-05-2003, 05:48 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Are there any good women out there?

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Originally posted by Tiser Are there kind, sweet, caring, loving, intelligent, upstanding, ethical, moral, uplifting, creative, open-minded women out there? Or do I just stay single forever?
Maybe if you took that attribute out.

Flame on.
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Old 05-06-2003, 11:06 AM   #21 (permalink)
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ya there not the slutty ones
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Old 05-06-2003, 01:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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American women are good for easy casual sex, but make terrible wives. Fuck and chuck until you are 40 then marry an 18 year old virgin foreign bride.
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Old 05-06-2003, 01:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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My love for the TFP has increased twofold.. I must make another donation soon.

The qualities I listed are important to me - but I don't mind many negative traits. A little crazy, a little wierd, a little odd... silly, goofy, overbearing, edgy, excessively analytical, periodically depressed, multiple personalities, non-sexual, ....ugly even... these would be negative traits I could certainly work past. So I'm not seeking the perfect woman by any means.

But I love all of you guys, I really appreciate your broad spectrum of responses. I've actually gotten past the situation rather well.. .when I saw my ex and this coke-addict together - they looked like the least happy couple I had ever seen.. and I was having a blast at a Ministry concert, and I just danced right by, smiled... I wish them the best... hope it works out for them actually... even though I flipped them the biggest middle finger... it was out of humor I would say.
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Old 05-06-2003, 03:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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No. For the most part they are all pretty evil, whether they know it or not. Your only hope is to find an evil one that you are smarter than.
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Old 05-06-2003, 06:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Do you think that mayeb you were asking too much of her? I know that to my last boyfriend's face I was nice and caring about him but he really didn't deserve it, he never returned it. He was completely surprised when I broke up with him, but I think he should have realized (after i had had many tearful conversations with him) that he wasn't a very nice person to be with.
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Old 05-06-2003, 06:17 PM   #26 (permalink)
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PS I guess I'm trying to say that you will end up with what you deserve. So maybe it was a good sign that you didn't deserve her if she was really the mean one.
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I think we both made mistakes, due to our inexperience, and unfortunately, some mistakes can never get past. No, neither of us cheated on eachother until her on me at the end (kind of, but not really). But we both had mean streaks toward the other at times... we both were hard to be with at times... our lives outside of the relationship was rocky, and that bleeds into it.

I think it is good advice to make yourself and your life comfortable and stable, before you try to inject a genuine relationship into it. You need that good foundation.

I know it has been said many times before, but if we had met much further down the road, after we both had relationship and life experience, and were both settled, it would have probably been completley different. I'm not really that upset about anything, though.
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Old 05-08-2003, 05:54 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I would like to jump on the bitter bandwagon and say that there aren't, but I have to have faith. I think it's going to take time and some patience to find them. I hope that she's out there, and I hope that I find her, and I hope you find yours. Just remember, you can't change people, so don't try to mold someone who doesn't work with you, and watch out for the people that will hide their true selves from you. Two mistakes I recently made. Good luck.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:45 PM   #29 (permalink)
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There aren't. Settle for less.
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