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Old 11-21-2007, 08:08 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I think it's important to note that you are highlighting the differences in the way the legal system treats the genders, not the differences in the genders themselves.
Not sure about that.

I don't feel raped, I don't feel violated, I don't feel ashamed, its more of a 'meh'.

Now not all women would feel different then me in this situation, but a lot would.

On the other hand I don't know ANY men who would feel raped, or violated.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:09 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Not sure about that.

I don't feel raped, I don't feel violated, I don't feel ashamed, its more of a 'meh'.

Now not all women would feel different then me in this situation, but a lot would.

On the other hand I don't know ANY men who would feel raped, or violated.
I'm not sure it's totally valid to make a generalization about the genders from your own feelings about a single incident. And frankly, what you described wasn't rape, it was sex that you regret. Legally is one thing, and the law is very protective of women when it comes to rape and being drunk and all that, which is why I feel the distinction you're drawing is primarily a legal one.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:43 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Men have this silly pride thing that makes them state homicide is the answer.
Thats not true I wouldnt kill anyone...but he would have an excessive fear of baseball bats for teh rest of his life.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:04 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Yes.

I would not expect "justice".
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:30 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I would not report it.

If you know who did it, it is too easy to get back at them without any repurcussions. They are the ones who must live out the rest of their lives in fear. They don't know when the revenge might come, who might deliver it, what form it might take. I would report it if I thought he would try again or if I thought he might try something worse. In that case I would also tell a friend or two so that if anything ever happened to me, the man responsible wouldn't live long to tell about it.


I wouldn't report it if a girl raped me. I'd give her a high five if she could force an erection in that situation and actually get me or herself off. I tend to get a fight or flight response in that kind of situation that seems to preclude getting an erection.

I'd only go for revenge if she was dumb enough to give me an STD or get herself pregnant.

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Old 11-23-2007, 02:14 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:57 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I would find the bastard, kidnap him, and answer the age old question, how long does it take to kill a man using nothing but nail clippers. After that, they really would have no other option then to find me insane and help me deal with the issues. Maybe a year or two of prison afterwards, and then, home free knowing the world is short one scum bag. And I'm sure once word gets around prison on why you are there, prison rape won't be a problem.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:53 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I have to say, although as it is for most of us (I hope) not being a victim of something like this in reality I am saying how I FEEL I would react: I would no desire at all to torture or cause suffering to the racist: either emotional or physical.

I would simply, give it some thought, and murder him in the most efficient way that was least likely to get me caught. Like I said, he might be a lot stronger than me... so then I'd simply torch his house while he slept - or whatever.

My only feeling would be for his to not be an existing person. I feel that this is justified, morally and ethically, as a reprisal against what he did - but I would like to think I would not descend into bloodlust, or "two wrongs make us even" type of mentality.

It would not be permissable for him to live after raping me, but that is no reason for the execution to be gruesome or painful. If it was safer for me to kill him in a more painful way - then by all means I would do it, but only for that reason. (so, ie - I might burn him to death rather than slit his throat - if I feared a physical confrontation against him)

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As for if a girl raped me... I dont believe it is possible... not actual rape. I could be molested by a girl, or assaulted with sexual connotations... but I dont believe rape itself.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:14 AM   #49 (permalink)
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As for if a girl raped me... I dont believe it is possible... not actual rape. I could be molested by a girl, or assaulted with sexual connotations... but I dont believe rape itself.
Being overpowered by a woman and sodomized would be no different than being sodomized by a man other than the instrument.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:55 AM   #50 (permalink)
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A woman could not sodomise me though... or at least not without tools. If a woman over-powered me and sodomised me with a broom or a sex toy or whatever... yes legally and i guess morally this is rape.

But I think that it is almost incredible to think of a woman having the mentality of a rapist. It is completely alien to female nature to do such things - even if the female is seriously insane and may be a murderer or whatever else - the act of rape seems to be a act of male violence.

I suppose, there are circumstances in which it could be conceived... but in human history probably there are 10 cases of a woman raping a male in the last 10,000 years - it is so improbable that I do not consider it.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:56 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Being overpowered by a woman and sodomized would be no different than being sodomized by a man other than the instrument.
I'm not so sure about this. It's almost like saying there's no difference between men and women.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:57 AM   #52 (permalink)
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But... if I was somehow the 11th person in all human experience to be raped by a woman, I dont know what I would do.

From one point of view, the criminal should be treated the same way regardless of gender, but I dont think it would be possible for me to kill a woman.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:02 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I'm not so sure about this. It's almost like saying there's no difference between men and women.
I was suggesting that it was every bit as possible to be sodomized by a woman as a man. I think the first thing to come to mind when we discuss if a man can be raped is how can a man get an erection if he isn't aroused. We tend to rule out other possibilities.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:04 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:13 AM   #55 (permalink)
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But if she fucked you with it without your consent, it would still be rape IMHO. Or at least a bit rude.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:15 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm not so sure about being forced to suck a strap-on that was just in my ass.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:35 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:33 AM   #58 (permalink)
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if we can get back to some semblence of respect for what is, after all, a horrific issue which destroys lives... I do not say that it is utterly impossible for a woman to commit rape, I say that there are no woman rapists.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:07 PM   #59 (permalink)
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The majority of female rapists are child molesters rather than those who go out and have sex with unwilling adult males. The fact is that among adults raping adults, it is primarily a male-perpetrated crime, but it is possible and there are cases of it happening, and child victims of female molesters and rapists are even less likely to report the abuse than adults, therefore we don't hear about it.

I Googled "female rapists" and pulled these from the first few pages to show cases of

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1151867.ece
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1319211.stm
http://media.www.dailyiowan.com/medi...t-265923.shtml
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:35 PM   #60 (permalink)
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The amount of "I would kill the son of a bitch" answers in this thread is overwhelming. Oh come on. You got ass raped and now you're willing to go to jail for 20 years? The smartest thing to do if you wanted revenge was call the cops. The absolute worst thing you could do is "take matters into your own hands" as most guys are responding with. There's no way you guys would ruin your lives to get revenge.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:36 PM   #61 (permalink)
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The amount of "I would kill the son of a bitch" answers in this thread is overwhelming. Oh come on. You got ass raped and now you're willing to go to jail for 20 years? The smartest thing to do if you wanted revenge was call the cops. The absolute worst thing you could do is "take matters into your own hands" as most guys are responding with. There's no way you guys would ruin your lives to get revenge.
Like I said, I would only kill in self defense. Beyond that, I would let the legal system take care of it.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:08 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I have friends that would walk a 5 miles to help me. They would walk 10 miles to kill you (not literally but you get the point).

I would report it. I would want the sorry fucker to pay the price for his poor judgement. The rest would be up to history/fate to determine...
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:35 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Whatever. I'm calling the cops after I kill the mofo. You don't put your twinkie in another dude and leave the cream filling without somebody getting dead.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:25 AM   #64 (permalink)
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You'd do that and risk getting a lifetime supply of twinkies? Suddenly, that sullied strap-on doesn't seem so bad....
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:48 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I suppose, there are circumstances in which it could be conceived... but in human history probably there are 10 cases of a woman raping a male in the last 10,000 years - it is so improbable that I do not consider it.
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So much for that idea.

As to the actual topic, I honestly have no idea how I'd react. One can only hope I'll never have to find out.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:55 AM   #66 (permalink)
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You'd do that and risk getting a lifetime supply of twinkies? Suddenly, that sullied strap-on doesn't seem so bad....
I know places, Baraka... I know places where the sand is deep and the only people that would happen by are the kind of people who have already done the same thing.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:34 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Uh, raped as in, what, tied me down and fucked me in the ass?

I don't think "reporting him to the authorities" would really have me thinking, "there, that showed him."

I'd really love to know what George Carlin's answer to this would be.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:16 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Prince, didn't you used to be "tight?"

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Oh, rape is such a bad idea.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:14 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Prince, didn't you used to be "tight?"

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Oh, rape is such a bad idea.




Like, totally .
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:40 PM   #70 (permalink)
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It's almost "funny" reading about what people here say they would do if it happened.

Would I report it to the cops,I don't know, it would depend on what exactly happened, and how badly I was hurt (inside and out).

The problem is that anything that happens to a man is almost always trivialized, Apart from murder, and being held up and beaten by a gang it comes down to not "being a man" if anything happens to you.

Add in the fact that a lot of cops still would just trivialize and ignore it, you end up feeling worse off, let alone having to go to the hospital (the other effect)
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:10 PM   #71 (permalink)
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